History YMMV / Warhammer40000

21st Jun '16 8:01:42 PM MarqFJA
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** The popular fan-pairing of a nameless Vindicare and an Eldar Farseer from Dawn of War. Enough to receive several nods in Dark HEresy!

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** The popular fan-pairing of a nameless Vindicare and an Eldar Farseer from Dawn of War. Enough to receive several nods in Dark HEresy!''TabletopGame/DarkHeresy''!
1st Jun '16 2:01:57 AM Ilya_Rysenkov
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** The Tau and Eldar are about the only factions who even realize there ''is'' one, and the Eldar [[CantArgueWithElves don't think it applies to anyone]] ''[[CantArgueWithElves else]]''

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** The Tau and Eldar are about the only factions who even realize there ''is'' one, and the Eldar [[CantArgueWithElves don't think it applies to anyone]] ''[[CantArgueWithElves else]]''else]]''.
17th May '16 11:24:59 PM darkknight109
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** The Tau Ethereal was also a unit noted for its uselessness. It was not a particularly useful model at the best of time and if the opponent killed it, it inflicted an army-wide debuff that could cause your battleline to crumble. The Ethereal was noted for being one of the only units in 40k that actually made your army measurably worse by its inclusion.

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** The Tau Ethereal was also a unit noted for its uselessness. It was not a particularly useful model at the best of time and if the opponent killed it, it inflicted an army-wide debuff that could cause your battleline to crumble. The Ethereal was noted for being one of the only units in 40k that didn't just settle for being useless and actually made the rest of your army measurably worse by its inclusion.
17th May '16 12:27:54 PM Ilya_Rysenkov
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** ''Happens every second'', crossed both by [[KnightTemplar less evil]] and, of course, [[CardCarryingVillain more evil factions]]. The only distinction between them is that less evil factions [[IDidWhatIHaveToDo have to commit atrocities just to survive]] (mostly), while more evil don't care at all.

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** ''Happens every second'', crossed both by [[KnightTemplar less evil]] and, of course, [[CardCarryingVillain more evil factions]]. The only distinction between them is that less evil factions [[IDidWhatIHaveToDo [[IDidWhatIHadToDo have to commit atrocities just to survive]] (mostly), while more evil don't care at all.
17th May '16 12:21:55 PM Ilya_Rysenkov
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** ''Happens every second'', crossed both by [[KnightTemplar less evil]] and, of course, more evil factions. The only distinction between them is that less evil factions have to commit atrocities just ''to survive'' (mostly), while more evil don't care at all.
** The Tau and Eldar are about the only factions who even realize there ''is'' one, and the Eldar [[CantArgueWithElves don't think it applies to anyone]] ''[[CantArgueWithElves else]]''.

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** ''Happens every second'', crossed both by [[KnightTemplar less evil]] and, of course, [[CardCarryingVillain more evil factions. factions]]. The only distinction between them is that less evil factions [[IDidWhatIHaveToDo have to commit atrocities just ''to survive'' to survive]] (mostly), while more evil don't care at all.
** The Tau and Eldar are about the only factions who even realize there ''is'' one, and the Eldar [[CantArgueWithElves don't think it applies to anyone]] ''[[CantArgueWithElves else]]''.else]]''



* NightmareFuel: [[NightmareFuel/{{Warhammer 40000}} Has its share.]]

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* NightmareFuel: [[NightmareFuel/{{Warhammer 40000}} Has its share. And it is understatement.]]
17th May '16 12:08:00 PM Ilya_Rysenkov
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** ''Happens every second'', crossed both by [[KnightTemplar less evil]] and, of course, more evil factions. The only distinction between them is that less evil factions have to commit atrocities just ''to survive'' (mostly), while more evil don't care at all.
30th Apr '16 12:45:52 PM SuckerPerpetrator
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*** For that matter, should weapons, armor, and vehicles be as practical as possible, or should they go all out with over-exaggerated designs that would fall apart in real life?
30th Apr '16 5:24:57 AM SuckerPerpetrator
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** Is the series a humorless, grim hellhole that's a reflection of the evil men do and is perfectly fitting with the horrors of humanity made for stories of men struggling with a vast, hostile universe with no room for comedy, or an over-the-top, ultra-campy mishmash of every sci-fi work that's made for CrazyAwesome and nothing remotely serious? This ranges from angry fans attacking ''anything'' that smells vaguely of idealism (see: the backlash against Tau, who were once explicitly the only non-assholes in the galaxy) and Literature/CiaphasCain being frowned upon for being comedic and showing human worlds that aren't [[WretchedHive slummy Hiveworlds]] or [[DeathWorld criminal penal colonies overrun with face-eating creatures]], to fans mocking the grimdark of the series (such as the thousands of psykers being slain to sustain the emperor, and ''especially'' Matt Ward's various additions, the least of which involved Sisters of Battle being slain for almost no reason at all) and increasing Literature/CiaphasCain and the angry hooligan shenanigans of the Orkz to memetic levels.

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** Is the series a humorless, grim hellhole that's a reflection of the evil men do and is perfectly fitting with the horrors of humanity made for stories of men struggling with a vast, hostile universe with no room for comedy, or an over-the-top, ultra-campy mishmash of every sci-fi work that's made for CrazyAwesome and nothing remotely serious? This ranges from angry fans attacking ''anything'' that smells vaguely of idealism idealism/optimism (see: the backlash against Tau, who were once explicitly the only non-assholes in the galaxy) and Literature/CiaphasCain being frowned upon for being comedic and showing human worlds that aren't [[WretchedHive slummy Hiveworlds]] or [[DeathWorld criminal penal colonies overrun with face-eating creatures]], to fans mocking the grimdark of the series (such as the thousands of psykers being slain to sustain the emperor, and ''especially'' Matt Ward's various additions, the least of which involved Sisters of Battle being slain for almost no reason at all) and increasing Literature/CiaphasCain and the angry hooligan shenanigans of the Orkz to memetic levels.
30th Apr '16 3:12:06 AM SuckerPerpetrator
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** Is the series a humorless, grim hellhole that's a reflection of the evil men do and is perfectly fitting with the horrors of humanity made for stories of men struggling with a vast, hostile universe with no room for comedy, or an over-the-top, ultra-campy mishmash of every sci-fi work that's made for CrazyAwesome and nothing remotely serious? This ranges from angry fans attacking ''anything'' that smells vaguely of idealism (see: the backlash against Tau, who were once explicitly the only non-assholes in the galaxy) and Literature/CiaphasCain being frowned upon for being comedic and showing human worlds that aren't [[WretchedHive slummy Hiveworlds]] or [[DeathWorld criminal penal colonies overrun with face-eating creatures]], to fans mocking the grimdark of the series (such as the thousands of psykers being slain to sustain the emperor, and ''especially'' Matt Ward's various additions, the least of which involved Sisters of Battle being slain for almost no reason at all) and increasing Literature/CiaphasCain and the angry hooligan shenanigans of the Orkz to memetic levels.


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** The popular fan-pairing of a nameless Vindicare and an Eldar Farseer from Dawn of War. Enough to receive several nods in Dark HEresy!
29th Apr '16 11:33:09 AM MinisterOfSinister
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** Arguably, every faction in the setting has suffered this as time goes on due to the static nature of the setting. [=GW's=] insistence on [[StatusQuoIsGod maintaining the status quo]] casts doubts over any faction suffering a major or lasting setback. Chaos taking over Cadia? One side winning Apocalypse?A campaign that ensures the losing faction will be forever changed? [[LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt Yeah, right]].

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** Arguably, every faction in the setting has suffered this as time goes on due to the static nature of the setting. [=GW's=] insistence on [[StatusQuoIsGod maintaining the status quo]] casts doubts over any faction suffering a major or lasting setback. Chaos taking over Cadia? One side winning Apocalypse?A Apocalypse? A campaign that ensures the losing faction will be forever changed? [[LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt Yeah, right]].
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