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16th May '13 12:07:44 PM Morgenthaler

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No Lewdness, please.

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10th May '13 11:53:14 PM Korm

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10th May '13 11:52:35 PM Korm

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** Speaking of Kharn's god, Khorne himself may rival the Emperor in terms of Draconess. According to Games Workshop, he is the god of bloodshed and hate, who cares not from where the blood flows, only that it flows, be it bystanders or his own worshipers. According to a good portion of the fanbase, Khrone is the god of {{Proud Warrior Race Guy}}s and martial honor who wouldn't lay a hand on innocent civilians. This version is actually based on older editions, but the merciful aspect is clearly out of date as far as Games Workshop is concerned. The ProudWarriorRaceGuy and martial honor are still present, just [[DarkerAndEdgier in a darker context]]. [[BlackAndGrayMorality Plus Slaanesh being the patron god of soul-eating, torture and rape]], at least Khornates only kill you. In recent fluff, he has been going back to his older self, his hounds are stated to be sent to hunt down any of his Champions who kill an innocent (or at least offer them to Khrone).
** Those hounds also hunt down those who run away from battle and abandons their fellow warriors.

2nd May '13 10:08:32 AM moderator Willbyr

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*** The Chaos Space Marines case is at least partially [[JustifiedTrope justified]], there are hints Dark Gods find it endlessly amusing that the Eternal War stay eternal. And they're generally just as interested in killing each other for favour as they are in killing off the Imperium. Once more however, when the Chaos Space Marines ''do'' decide to get their act together, they fuck the Imperium's shit up on a scale undreamed of by any other race in the setting, like in the Dominion of Fire or the Cholercaust Blood Crusade, or even Abaddon's 13th Black Crusade. 
* VillainSue: The Necrons ''used'' to be this until their BadassDecay. Tyranids are accused of this now, since their stated that if they win they consume everything from the loser, meaning causalities are nothing to them, EnemyCivilWars are nothing to them, and they are stated to constantly adapt to most any new threat presented to them.
** You look hard enough you could find reason to accuse anything in this setting of this trope.

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*** The Chaos Space Marines case is at least partially {{justified|Trope}}; there are hints Dark Gods find it endlessly amusing that the Eternal War stay eternal. And they're generally just as interested in killing each other for favour as they are in killing off the Imperium. Once more however, when the Chaos Space Marines ''do'' decide to get their act together, they fuck the Imperium's shit up on a scale undreamed of by any other race in the setting, like in the Dominion of Fire or the Cholercaust Blood Crusade, or even Abaddon's 13th Black Crusade. 
* VillainSue: The Necrons ''used'' to be this until their BadassDecay. Tyranids are accused of this now, since they're stated that if they win they consume everything from the loser, meaning causalities are nothing to them, EnemyCivilWars are nothing to them, and they are stated to constantly adapt to most any new threat presented to them.
** If you look hard enough, you could find reason to accuse anything in this setting of this trope.

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2nd May '13 9:46:26 AM moderator Willbyr

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28th Apr '13 4:27:23 AM Zaptech

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Citations are now required for Unfortunate Implications.

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* UnfortunateImplications:
** DependingOnTheWriter [[{{Fanservice}} (or artist)]] these can crop up from time to time in regards to the setting's handling of women.
*** Only in 40K can TheSmurfettePrinciple be turned UpToEleven. Out of all the ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}}'' fiction released there has been one book where a woman was the protagonist and viewpoint character for the entire series. Though that one attempt did show the character as incredibly professional and badass so they are trying.
** The ''CiaphasCain'' novels have plenty of female Imperial Guards (one of whom rises to the highest rank in the Guard, though she's the only woman to do so) a number of female PDF soldiers, government figures, a tech-priest and a psyker, plus a female inquisitor who is the single most powerful character in the series ''and'' the in-universe editor, but she only appears in person sporadically.
** According to Xenology, the Orks' scientific name is ''Orkus negra''. While there is a non-racist reason (In TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}}, Black Orcs with darker green skin are the biggest and most professionally dangerous Orcs), it still rankles.
*** To make matters worse, White Dwarf's "Battle for Ork's Drift" display had the orks facing off against the red-coated, pith helmeted Praetorian Guard...
** The Salamanders were originally white, but were early retconned into being black and remained that way for much of the game's history. However, they were recently retconned again so that the black skin was a genetic ''defect''. To be fair, the retcon also changed the skin colour from 'African-America black' to 'coal black with red eyes'. Plus, for Space Marines "genetic defect" just means "not identical to the Ultramarines".
** It is, essentially, a universe in which fascism, intolerance, and mass murder is ''necessary.'' At least, [[UnreliableNarrator according to]] the intolerant mass-murdering fascists themselves since everything is written in-universe.

23rd Apr '13 1:03:03 PM ilniaj

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18th Apr '13 1:12:24 AM PaulA

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15th Apr '13 7:38:03 PM PurpleShirt

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