History YMMV / Warhammer40000

15th Feb '18 1:01:42 PM MinisterOfSinister
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** The Avatar of Khaine used to actually be an intimidating sight, and was the super-unit for the Eldar in the first two ''VideoGame/DawnOfWar'' games and their expansions. But now, too many instances of being subjected to TheWorfEffect later, it's synonymous with {{Jobber}} in the lore and little more than a showpiece in the game itself.



** The Necrons pre-6th Edition and/or the Necrons post-6th Edition. The base is divided on whether they were this before, after, or both.

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** The Necrons pre-6th pre-5th Edition and/or the Necrons post-6th post-5th Edition. The base is divided on whether they were this before, after, or both. Regardless, the idea of them as implacable forces of destruction on a never-ending march to KillAllHumans is considered a major draw of the army.
10th Feb '18 5:07:35 PM DrVonOppendown
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** Much like the Chaos Heldrake mentioned earlier, in 7th Edition, the T'au XV-104 Riptide battlesuit was so unbelievably good that every list had at least one of these monsters despite their fluff stating they were quite rare, becoming emblematic of that edition's legendary problem with "Deathstar" units. It took 8th Edition caving its skull in with the nerf bat to halt the endless legions of Riptide-focused armies.
6th Feb '18 11:29:58 AM smasll_lordvoice
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** While we're talking about Marine chapters, there's also the Blood Ravens, an entire chapter of KleptomaniacHero strategists who regularly steal sacred relics from ''other chapters'', claiming to have [[BlatantLies "discovered"]] them, and occasionally present them to '''[[RefugeInAudacity those same chapters]]''' as "gifts".
30th Jan '18 7:43:48 AM 43110
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** The backstory gives us [[ObviouslyEvil Goge Vandire]], a ManipulativeBastard who managed to become the single most important person in the Imperium and began to gradually destroy it from within. He brutally murdered countless people, committed several genocides and nearly doomed the entire humanity not because he had any greater goal or allegiance to Chaos, but because he was simply batshit insane. While he initially was motivated by his [[AmbitionIsEvil ambition and lust for power]], after he took over the Ecclesiarchy he has commited multiple attrocities purely ForTheEvulz. His actions earned him ZeroPercentApprovalRating and infamy for millenia to come.
25th Jan '18 3:29:37 PM Tharkun140
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** The backstory gives us [[ObviouslyEvil Goge Vandire]], a ManipulativeBastard who managed to become the single most important person in the Imperium and began to gradually destroy it from within. He brutally murdered countless people, committed several genocides and nearly doomed the entire humanity not because he had any greater goal or allegiance to Chaos, but because he was simply batshit insane. While he initially was motivated by his [[AmbitionIsEvil ambition and lust for power]], after he took over the Ecclesiarchy he has commited multiple attrocities purely ForTheEvulz. His actions earned him ZeroPercentApprovalRating and infamy for millenia to come.
14th Jan '18 6:38:05 PM PlasmaTalon
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** 8th edition ZigZags this. Aiming to fix and do away with as many of the previously mentioned mechanics as possible, while sadly adding a few of its own.

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** 8th edition ZigZags this. Aiming to fix and do away with as many of the previously mentioned mechanics as possible, while sadly adding a few of its own. Mortal Wounds and the changes to Deep Striking being the biggest. Mortal Wounds, a carry over from [[TableTopGame/WarhammerAgeOfSigmar Age Of Sigmar]] inflict damage which neither armor or invulnerable saves can be taken against. Killing most infantry models outright or putting damage on larger creatures and even vehicles for simply having rolled well. Deep Striking models no longer scatter and can be placed anywhere as long as they remain nine inches away from enemy models. Which only compounded the deep strike problem from previous editions by making it impossible to go off target or mishap.
10th Jan '18 11:34:04 AM Aravagantos
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** It's no coincidence that the Ultramarines are the 13th Legio Astartes and the resident [[SpaceRomans Space Romans]] with a [[UsefulNotes/JuliusCaesar Julius Caesar]] {{Expy}} for a Primarch: the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legio_XIII_Gemina Legio XIII Gemina]] was the one that Caesar took across the Rubicon to invade Rome.
3rd Jan '18 11:44:37 AM Tharkun140
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** The Space Marines. Brave SuperSoldiers who do their best to protect humanity from its foes, or a bunch of uptight jerks [[GlorySeeker who are more concerned with glory than protecting people]], [[FakeUltimateHero get way more praise than they deserve]] [[FaceHeelTurn and are more likely to fall to Chaos than any other Imperial faction?]]
2nd Jan '18 3:15:08 AM ACW
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** Even among the Traitor Legions of Chaos, Fabius [[NamesToRunAwayFrom Bile]], the self-styled "Primogenitor", is an unspeakably vile force [[TheDreaded feared and hated across the galaxy]] to those who know his name and actions. A MadScientist extraordinaire longing to exceed the scientific accomplishments of the Emperor, Bile refuses to pledge himself to any one Chaos God and instead sells his services to whomever can take him, stringing behind him a [[PlayingWithSyringes legacy of depraved experiments, genocides, and horrors]] with entire sectors of lives reduced longing for death from what Bile has brought upon them. Among Bile's many atrocities are forcing those he has [[FlayingAlive flayed]] to carry a [[GenuineHumanHide cloak made of the skin]] of dozens behind him, earning him the epitaph Manflayer; forcing the population of Dimmamar to [[SadisticChoice take in his own mutative serums or suffocate]] by changing the composition of the very air they breathed; squashing down over a million prisoners into [[HumanResources amplifying drugs]] for his followers, whom he also treats as test fodder; engaging in degenerate experiments with clones, earning him fear and respect from the world of Palamar V; and his proudest accomplishment, the "New Men", with the populations of entire worlds transformed into powerful but blindly murderous specimens of his own image. In the Chaos-ravaged world of Warhammer 40K, Fabius Bile, [[EvenEvilHasStandards reviled by even the Traitor Legions he is ostensibly a part of]], is a man who has dedicated his life to [[GlorySeeker immortality through infamy]] by means of the destruction and perversion of billions of lives in his never-ending quest to permanently etch the foul memory of his name on the universe.

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** Even among the Traitor Legions of Chaos, Fabius [[NamesToRunAwayFrom Bile]], the self-styled "Primogenitor", is an unspeakably vile force [[TheDreaded feared and hated across the galaxy]] to those who know his name and actions. A MadScientist extraordinaire longing to exceed the scientific accomplishments of the Emperor, Bile refuses to pledge himself to any one Chaos God and instead sells his services to whomever can take him, stringing behind him a [[PlayingWithSyringes legacy of depraved experiments, genocides, and horrors]] with entire sectors of lives reduced longing for death from what Bile has brought upon them. Among Bile's many atrocities are forcing those he has [[FlayingAlive flayed]] to carry a [[GenuineHumanHide cloak made of the skin]] of dozens behind him, earning him the epitaph Manflayer; forcing the population of Dimmamar to [[SadisticChoice take in his own mutative serums or suffocate]] by changing the composition of the very air they breathed; squashing down over a million prisoners into [[HumanResources amplifying drugs]] for his followers, whom he also treats as test fodder; engaging in degenerate experiments with clones, earning him fear and respect from the world of Palamar V; and his proudest accomplishment, the "New Men", with the populations of entire worlds transformed into powerful but blindly murderous specimens of his own image. In the Chaos-ravaged world of Warhammer 40K, Fabius Bile, [[EvenEvilHasStandards reviled by even the Traitor Legions he is ostensibly a part of]], is a man who has dedicated his life to [[GlorySeeker [[FameThroughInfamy immortality through infamy]] by means of the destruction and perversion of billions of lives in his never-ending quest to permanently etch the foul memory of his name on the universe.
30th Dec '17 7:48:34 AM PlasmaTalon
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** 8th edition ZigZags this. Aiming to fix and do away with as many of the previously mentioned mechanics as possible, while sadly adding a few of its own.
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