History YMMV / Warhammer40000

17th Nov '17 4:38:25 AM sinndogg
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** The [[SpotlightStealingSquad Crimson Slaughter]] were accused of this by some people after they, a minor warband of Chaos Space Marines that had [[AscendedExtra only recently]] received any CharacterDevelopment, were given a dedicated Codex supplement before eight of the nine Traitor Legions. This wasn't helped by the fact that the only Legion that had one, the Black Legion, is usually considered [[JackOfAllStats the most generic]] of the major Chaos Marine sub-factions (and therefore the least deserving of unique rules).

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** The [[SpotlightStealingSquad Crimson Slaughter]] were accused of this by some people after they, a minor warband of Chaos Space Marines that had [[AscendedExtra only recently]] received any CharacterDevelopment, were given a dedicated Codex supplement before eight of the nine Traitor Legions. Legions, in addition to their colour scheme being made the default for most new Chaos Marine releases. This wasn't helped by the fact that the only Legion that had one, one at the time, the Black Legion, Legion (who had the previous default scheme), is usually considered [[JackOfAllStats the most too generic]] of the major Chaos Marine sub-factions (and therefore the least deserving of for unique rules).rules.
18th Oct '17 11:30:26 PM Vampireandthen
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** Kaldor Draigo. Dear LORD, Kaldor Draigo! It would be way to long to explain why he is one, so, to distill it, he is some Grey Knight lost and trapped in the Warp who somehow managed to just eternally battle daemons, including carving his name into a Daemon Prince's heart, and over things which shouldn't be possible in even this setting.
18th Oct '17 10:52:32 PM Vampireandthen
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** The Imperium. [[TheEmpire Vast, monolithic entity]] of [[AbsoluteXenophobe xenophobic]] [[TheFundamentalist fundamentalists]] and one of the most horrific examples of HumansAreBastards in fiction, or sympathetic anti-heroes forced to [[WellIntentionedExtremist resort to extreme measures]] and fight bitterly for survival in an utterly nightmarish CrapsackWorld?

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** The Imperium. [[TheEmpire Vast, monolithic entity]] of [[AbsoluteXenophobe xenophobic]] [[TheFundamentalist fundamentalists]] and one of the most horrific examples of HumansAreBastards in fiction, or sympathetic anti-heroes forced to [[WellIntentionedExtremist resort to extreme measures]] and fight bitterly for survival in an utterly nightmarish CrapsackWorld?CrapsackWorld? Both may be the best possible answer, as there are plenty examples of both extremities being present.
6th Sep '17 9:36:10 AM Silverblade2
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* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Matt Ward seems to be slowly moving into this. His Space Marine codexes are generally regarded as terribad, but his Necron codex is a BaseBreaker, and the Iyanden supplementary codex he wrote was actually somewhat positively received.

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* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Matt Ward seems to be slowly moving into this. His Space Marine codexes are generally regarded as terribad, but his Necron codex is a BaseBreaker, divisive, and the Iyanden supplementary codex he wrote was actually somewhat positively received.
4th Sep '17 6:34:00 PM WillBGood
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** Konrad Curze was dropped onto a planet of endless night ruled by crime lords through violence and intimidation; he brought the planet to heel by adopting the methods of his enemies but that was so it could maybe be something other than a lawless shithole, but he went to fight in the Great Crusade and in his absence it descended back into depravity and everything he worked for was dashed, and that's not even getting into the premonitions that haunted him throughout his life. Though at least Konrad got to die on his own terms: even that was taken from Angron, who was whisked away by the Emperor to fight a war he never cared about when all he really wanted was to die on his homeworld fighting with his friends in their slave revolt, fighting for a cause he actually believed in. Angron always resented his father for that, and he was a tremendously abrasive asshole to his brothers, but between that and the nails sticking into his brain, it's not to see why.

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** Konrad Curze was dropped onto a planet of endless night ruled by crime lords through violence and intimidation; he intimidation. He brought the planet to heel by adopting the methods of his enemies but enemies, as that was so apparently the only way it could maybe be something other than a lawless shithole, but shithole. But he went to fight in the Great Crusade and in his absence it descended back into depravity and depravity; everything he worked for was dashed, and that's not even getting into the premonitions that haunted him throughout his life. life.
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Though at least Konrad got to die on his own terms: even that was taken from Angron, who was whisked away by the Emperor to fight a war he never cared about when all he really wanted was to die on his homeworld fighting with his friends in their slave revolt, fighting for a cause he actually believed in. Angron always resented his father for that, and he was a tremendously abrasive asshole to his brothers, but between that and the nails sticking into his brain, it's not hard to see why.
4th Sep '17 6:09:14 PM WillBGood
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** {{Canon}} descriptions of the Noise Marines say that they wear the brightest, most clashing colours. Most pictures, including ''VideoGame/DawnOfWar'', instead depict them in black with pink details. The reason is likely that painting the models in lore-appropriate colours would make for an ugly, incohesive army. Not very appealing to look at, even if [[StylisticSuck the ugliness is intentional]].

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** {{Canon}} descriptions of the Noise Marines say that they wear the brightest, most clashing colours. Most pictures, including ''VideoGame/DawnOfWar'', instead depict them in black with pink details. The reason is likely that painting the models in lore-appropriate colours would make for an ugly, incohesive army. Not very appealing to look at, even if [[StylisticSuck the ugliness is intentional]]. (That said, the belief that PinkIsForSissies might well be a factor.)
4th Sep '17 5:53:19 PM WillBGood
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** Lots. The largest case is with armies, since players will typically go for whatever army is updated the most recently since as an edition goes on, the creators start figure on what makes an army effective under the current rules, so the more recently updated armies tend to be better than the ones released earlier. Also, the cost of models means that Space Marines get the most use of this because they're, [[CrackIsCheaper relatively speaking]], the least expensive to play. Games Workshop has noticed this and focused very heavily on releasing more and more Space Marine armies.
** Due to increasingly worse rules-writing, a lot of codexes end up having a handful of units that are mind-bogglingly powerful while the rest are left at the wayside. The 6th Edition Chaos Space Marine Codex is the worse offender, with the Heldrake being so overwhelmingly powerful on release that there was literally no reason not to take anything else if you can help it, while stuff like Mutilators and Warp Talons were so crappy that some opponents took it as an insult if you brought them against him. Unlike later Codexes (which ended up buffing only new units to sell kits) all three of those units were new.

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** Lots. The largest case is with armies, since armies; players will typically go for whatever army is updated the most recently since as an edition goes on, the creators start to figure on out what makes an army effective under the current rules, so the more recently updated armies tend to be better than the ones released earlier. Also, the cost of models means that Space Marines get the most use of this trope a lot because they're, [[CrackIsCheaper they're ([[CrackIsCheaper relatively speaking]], speaking]]) the least expensive to play. Games Workshop has noticed this and focused very heavily on releasing more and more Space Marine armies.
** Due to increasingly worse poor rules-writing, a lot of codexes end up having a handful of units that are mind-bogglingly powerful while the rest are left at by the wayside. The 6th Edition Chaos Space Marine Codex is was the worse worst offender, with the Heldrake being so overwhelmingly powerful on release that there was literally no reason not to take anything else if you can help it, while stuff like Mutilators and Warp Talons were so crappy that some opponents took it as an insult if you brought them against him. Unlike later Codexes (which ended up buffing only new units to sell kits) all three of those units were new.
4th Sep '17 5:50:03 PM WillBGood
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*** Or, in the end, it could just be another ''Literature/{{Dune}}'' ShoutOut...



** 8th Edition has pretty much shattered the base. One half of the player base sees it as a much needed overhaul, cutting the unwieldy rules down to size making it easier to play. To the other its a travesty that's completely gutted the game and removed it's depth in the name of drawing in new players.

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** 8th Edition has pretty much shattered the base. One half of the player base sees it as a much needed overhaul, cutting the unwieldy rules down to size making it easier to play. To the other its a travesty that's completely gutted the game and removed it's its depth in the name of drawing in new players.
4th Sep '17 5:24:27 PM sinndogg
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** The Chaos Daemon Prince Doombreed, a human who ascended ''before'' the Age of the Imperium is usually believed to be UsefulNotes/GenghisKhan.

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** The Chaos Daemon Prince Doombreed, a human who ascended ''before'' the Age of the Imperium is usually believed to be UsefulNotes/GenghisKhan. However, [[http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Uraka_Az%27baramael Uraka Az'baramael]] from the Imperial Armour books may be a more likely candidate, since he is said to have led "horse-bound armies" across Ancient Terra, and the description of the massacre that led him to dedicate his soul to Khorne closely resembles the razing of Nishapur.
4th Sep '17 12:32:17 AM Agent_B
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** The fan-made web series, WebAnimation/IfTheEmperorHadATextToSpeechDevice, has popularised the idea of Rogal Dorn having a mustache, despite him being clean-shaven in every official depiction to date.

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** The fan-made web series, WebAnimation/IfTheEmperorHadATextToSpeechDevice, has popularised the idea of Rogal Dorn having a mustache, mustache/muttonchops, despite him being clean-shaven in every official depiction to date.
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