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  • Awesome Music:
    • The remixed Super Mario World theme.
    • The Doomsday Zone, used as Turbo Mecha Sonic's No-Holds-Barred Beatdown music.
    • Show No Tears, Captain Basilisx's battle theme.
    • Back To Mad, during the intense brawl on Yoshi's Island before Turbo Mecha Sonic showed up.
      • At least two of those have some sort of meta-CMOA to them as well, The Doomsday Zone remix was originally part of an OC Remix project that played on the "old-timey radio" feel of the opening, only to rock the 'eff out. "Back To Mad" was made famous for being used in a flash animation called "Rockman Neo", which depicted a dark third generation for the Mega Man franchise (before Mega Man ZX happened, that is; Neo, incidentally, is what the Mega Man Legends series is known as in Japan).
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    • The opening song used in Episode 7 and 8.
    • Crisis City, used when Sonic becomes Fire/Solar Sonic in episode 8.
    • Mario Minor by PowerGlove, the theme for the new reboot. It's fitting for the grand return.
    • The preview of the reboot series' first episode's seventh scene does not waste time generating hype. Going with the fireball fight between Mario and Bowser is Fire by Scooter. Say it with me now: one, two, three, FIRE!!
    • GaMetal's rendition of "Bowser's Rage / King of the Koopas", used during the fight with Metal Bowser.
      • In fact, Alvin Earthworm requested them to make a remix of the Koopaling battle from New Super Mario Bros Wii. They stated that it was fulfilled as a special thanks for using the remix from above. Implications have it that this song could be used in a future episode.
  • Base-Breaking Character:
    • Basilisx; people were split between those who believe that he was right in calling Mario, who has had a whole history of games fighting Koopas and other enemies, out on what might be questionable actions and morality, and those who believe that Basilisx is a hypocrite with a huge case of Moral Myopia, when also considering that Bowser and the Koopas have had a long nasty history of being repeated aggressors against the Mushroom Kingdom and their treatment of other races and Mario was being the defender in trying to stop their aggressive takeover.
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    • The Big Bad himself, Turbo Mecha Sonic. Many love him as an Evil Is Cool Knight of Cerebus; but many others have derided him as an over-the-top Invincible Villain responsible for Darkness-Induced Audience Apathy note .
  • Broken Base: Mostly regarding the reboot. While many are glad that the series got a second chance, some of the changes made to it irked parts of the fanbase.
    • The fact that the reboot will be different than the original run. Fans are either happy about this (since now there's more to look forward to than just new fight scenes) or aren't, wondering why Alvin doesn't just continue from where he left off.
    • Alvin admonished Episode 7 and doesn't plan to incorporate it into the reboot. His word basically amounts to [heavily paraphrased] "It was too expository and doesn't really gel with the rest of the series plot". There are those that agree with these sentiments, and those that feel that the episode worked fine and loved seeing the series go 8-bit for its signature fight scenes for an episode.
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    • Similarly, he doesn't plan to reintroduce Basilix (at least, not in the 1st Saga), saying that he took up too much screen time that could've been better reserved for Bowser Jr. and the Koopalings, as well as Metal Mario. Basilix being a Base-Breaking Character as is, this news resulted in mixed feelings as well.
    • The first episode changes the Mario Kart racing tournament into a fighting tournament arc. On one hand, fans like that this fits the Super Mario Bros Z universe more than kart racing would, and gives the Mario Bros' amazing fighting capabilities more credence, since some found Mario and Bowser breaking into DBZ style combat in the middle of a kart race in the original run to be a little jarring. On the other hand, kart racing is a Mario series staple and served as a good contrast to how different (as in, light-hearted) Mario's world was before the plot kicked off. There's also a few folks pointing out that a fighting tournament doesn't really seem like something that Princess Peach would advocate (after all, the kart race was done in her honor), especially given how violent the combat in SMBZ is compared to anything else Mario-related.note 
    • Turbo Mecha Sonic being redesigned into Metallix has also been met with mixed reactions. One camp of viewers are glad that the villain got a graphical upgrade to go with the new reboot while the other camp preferred his older look citing him to be more intimidating in appearance in comparison to the new design; the thing is that the new design itself isn't base-breaking but the fact that it's being used as the new base design of the villain when it used to be to "Perfect Form" design of the older base design of the villain and taking the rest into consideration makes it base-breaking.
  • Complete Monster: Turbo Mecha Sonic. As soon as he came into being (via Metal Sonic absorbing past models into himself), he destroys the Death Egg and forces it to crash-land on Mobius, causing an apocalypse. He then, while hunting down the Chaos Emeralds, also took the opportunity to kill Sonic's friends in extremely brutal ways (Tails by strangling him, Amy by beating her up, Knuckles by beating him up and then filling him up with machine-gun processed lead, and Cream and Cheese by apparently blowing their head off), and had wiped out most, if not all, of the planet's population and turned more than half of it into a burning wasteland. He was also the reason for Shadow's current personality, because he killed Rouge and Omega, the only people he could call his friends. As soon as he arrived at the Mushroom Kingdom to recover the Chaos Emeralds, he also killed a Goomba who found a Chaos Emerald simply because he didn't give it to him, even though there was absolutely no way he could have known that was a Chaos Emerald. He then mercilessly beats up Yoshi to gain his chaos emerald (and says that he would have killed Yoshi anyways even if he did comply to his request). He later brutally killed both the Koopa Bros and the Axem Rangers X and destroyed Yoshi's Island. Not just scouring the surface, but hitting the island with a Sphere of Destruction so powerful that it vaporized the entire island.
    "Monster? I'm not a monster, I AM A GOD!"
  • Darkness-Induced Audience Apathy: Let's just say that many Sonic fans quit the series after seeing almost all of their beloved characters murdered in cold blood by Turbo Mecha Sonic.
  • Evil Is Cool: Turbo Mecha Sonic got a following for being the most powerful character in the series, having taken down characters with Chaos Emeralds without using any himself, and pulling off a Curb-Stomp Battle on Mario and Sonic at the same time without any Chaos Emeralds.
  • Fandom Rivalry: With Ed Edd 'n' Eddy Z. Most people claim EEnE Z is simply a ripoff of SMBZ. (It's not, by the way.) Lampshaded in Episode 19 of EEnE Z:
    Corey: Wait... ah shit, how many people will call this show a "Super Mario Bros. Z ripoff" for that?
  • Fridge Brilliance:
    • In Episode 7, Luigi jumps out of the water and accidentally hit Kolorado's stopwatch. This activates the negative energy in it. Luigi's Final Smash in Super Smash Bros. Brawl? Negative Zone.
    • Luigi's fighting style is this. He's the only one among the main team that's been relegated to the traditional Player 2 position in the past, rather than Player 1. He's by far the best team player among the group, and his most badass moments are when he comes flying in to back one of the others up.
  • Growing the Beard: Around Episode 3. At this point the stakes have been established and the writing and pacing have hit their stride. As for the animation and action sequences? The action before was decent but slightly stilted, repetitive and drawn-out. It's around this point that the action fully grew into the slick, inventive and spectacular action that defined the series that would only increase in ambition as the series went on.
  • Hilarious in Hindsight:
    • One of the visual gags in Episode 3 has Mario meet the Super Mario Bros., Super Mario Bros. 3, and Super Mario World version of himself. 9 years later, Super Mario Maker would have the three come together with Mario's modern look in the same place.
    • The Yoshis in this series are compared to Namekians from Dragon Ball Z, especially the whole parallel that both of them had their homes destroyed by a sun-like attack. Around a year later after the Yoshi's Island arc, Dragon Ball Z Abridged came to be ... and one of the first few jokes was comparing Piccolo to a Yoshi.
    • Axem Green and Black's attack against Sonic and Shadow resemble's Sonic and Tails' double spin dash from Sonic the Hedgehog 4 Episode II.
    • As noted on the Trivia page, had the series not been cancelled in it's original run, one of the arcs would've seen the Axem Rangers return, with parts of Metal Sonic being used to create a Blue Axem Ranger. Take a wild guess what color one of the extra rangers in 2 entries from the franchise the Axem Rangers are an Affectionate Parody of (Zyuden Sentai Kyoryuger and Uchuu Sentai Kyuranger, both released after the series was canceled), would benote .
    • In the original run, there was a dramatic scene where Sonic triggered Shadow by bringing up Maria. Many years later, the 3rd Sonic Twitter Takeover has Shadow being (much more calmly) triggerred by the question "How's Maria?", except this time it's Played for Laughs.
    • The Axem Rangers are quite obviously a stand-in for the Ginyu Force. However, unlike the Ginyu force originally, the entire team is Killed Off for Real, including the Red Axem Ranger (Captain Ginyu, the character Red is based on, survived the events of Z). Take a wild guess what ended up happening in Dragon Ball Super when the series retold "Resurrection of F"? That's right, Ginyu gets Killed Off for Real - he even gets vaporized like Axem Red!
  • "Holy Shit!" Quotient: The ratio approaches one during a few of the fight sequences. For some, it actually exceeds 1.
  • Iron Woobie: Sonic has to qualify for this. In spite of having all of his friends brutally murdered and his home world all but completely destroyed by his most dangerous nemesis to date, he sure doesn't look like he's seriously affected by it, only showing his pain in small lapses from time to time. Compare him (who is fairly in character most of the time) to Shadow (who is almost completely out of character most of the time) who fits in with the below trope.
  • Jerkass Woobie: It is all but outright confirmed that the reason for Shadow's current Jerkass nature is due to rage in regards to Turbo Mecha Sonic murdering Rouge and Omega, the only two people he could ever openly consider friends.
  • Just Here for Godzilla: The fight scenes are undeniably magnificent, so it's no surprise that some viewers don't really care for the plot or jokes.
  • Mis-blamed: Contrary to popular belief, Shadow the Hedgehog did not hit Mario during the fight with the Koopa Bros. in Episode 4. He was actually knocked into Mario by Black Ninjakoopa offscreen. It is an understandable mistake, though, since Shadow has hit his team-mates in other fights, including kicking Sonic into Semi-Super Metal Sonic.
  • Moral Event Horizon: Turbo Mecha Sonic destroying Mobius along with its inhabitants during Sonic's recounting of his home world (Sonic's and Shadow's friends being chief among the innumerable casualties). Everything he does afterwards is just him relishing in his evilness.
  • Spiritual Adaptation: According to Alvin-Earthworm, the reboot is, scale-wise, inspired by Asura's Wrath.
  • Strawman Has a Point: Shadow proposing to collect the rest of the Emeralds and stop Turbo Mecha Sonic over saving Peach is received with disgust. Nevermind the fact that Turbo Mecha Sonic already ruined a planet and Bowser never harms Peach.


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