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Also known as Sparta Mix videos.
I fail to see how it relates to Instant Humiliation: Just Add YouTube!, so just make it a pure Memetic Mutation subtrope.
Though I'm skeptical if it's actually noteworthy on its own (you can make anything into a song, so it's not really relevant to work's audience reactions) and maybe should just be merged with Memetic Mutation or YouTube Poop.
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Disambig between Instant Humiliation: Just Add YouTube!, Memetic Mutation, and YouTube Poop for me
Move examples to the appropriate tropes as well
Edited by Nen_desharu on Apr 18th 2023 at 12:15:35 PM
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I'm leaning toward disambiguating. I feel like it might not be distinct enough from Memetic Mutation, especially considering the wicks are inconsistent and often in bad shape (particularly due to all the ZCEs, both vanilla and weblink-only). I'm against classifying this as Fan Speak unless someone can provide evidence that it's actual Fan Speak used offsite (which would mainly mean links to other sites using the term).
Edit: I also fail to see how this relates to Instant Humiliation: Just Add YouTube!. I'm positive that the Homestar Runner cartoon that provided The Diss Track example predates YouTube. Either that, or Instant Humiliation: Just Add YouTube! predates YouTube itself, and just became more noticeable and widespread after YouTube provided a more centralized place to host online videos. (Though I'm kind of going on a tangent at this point; the first paragraph of this post more important than this one.)
Edited by GastonRabbit on Apr 18th 2023 at 1:28:04 PM
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Looking at the oldest version of the page in the Internet Archive
, I think this was created as a page for the category of meme, or from another point of view, as a genre of YouTube video similar to YouTube Poop. Note that the examples not only are mostly out-of-universe, but that the first few of them are applied to real-life "stupid statements".
If it were an in-universe trope, it would either be a subtrope or The Same, but More Specific of Instant Humiliation Just Add Youtube, since it would achieve the same effect of having everyone across the Internet make fun of the character's gaffe. It's just that I'm not sure that's what it was ever intended to be. But by the same token, I'm not sure if being YMMV is the same thing either, since its very title is in reference to applying it to real life, not a work.
Because it is effectively a form of transforming something pre-existing into a semi-original work, but where people might not be inspired to give each one their own work page, treating it similarly to YouTube Poop might be warranted. But you'd probably have to completely rearrange the examples to separate in-universe examples from real-life ones.
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Disambiguating.
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Hooked a crowner. I left out making this Fan Speak because nobody answered my question regarding whether this is actual Fan Speak.
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Bringing up this related ATT query of mine that never went anywhere (slipped from my mind after a few hours of sleep and I never got around to making a Useful Notes page or a Just For Fun page).
Taking this quote at face value (and please note that these are just my opinions):
- Instant Humiliation: Just Add YouTube! is non-applicable for Sparta Remix examples on Stupid Statement Dance Mix. The majority of them aren't meant to humiliate other people, or any works. I can't attest to any non-SR examples, but from reading them, it seems like some would fit on Memetic Mutation.
- It could potentially be disambig'd to Memetic Mutation. It is a YMMV trope and Sparta Remixes as a genre are thought by the majority (i.e., outside of the fandom) to be memes that have grown popular over the years rather than a genre or an art form. As for the non-Sparta Remix examples on SSDM, they would be at home in MM.
- Stupid Statement Dance Mix as a name is not Fan Speak. Sparta Mix/Sparta Remix, on the other hand, is. Similar to YouTube Poop, it is an art form with its own community that has been growing on the Internet for years and continues to grow. There is a concern on the ATT query I linked that Sparta Remixes share one singular source, which is not necessarily true — most Sparta Remixes use existing works as sources, which includes the source that started it all (300). Some use real-life sources, but the majority do not.
But I digress, and my apologies if it sounds like I'm gushing — that certainly is not my intent. I agree with ~Morgan Wick in that Sparta Remixes are something that takes a pre-existing work and transforms it into something semi-original, and that we should treat it similarly to YouTube Poop. The rest of the examples can be disambiguated to Memetic Mutation.
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If it does get turned into a disambiguation, Sampling is one of the tropes. Maybe Alternate Music Video and Fanvid too.
Edited by igordebraga on Apr 22nd 2023 at 10:38:57 AM
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Good idea. I added them to the list in the crowner.
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While you're add it, it would be great to add YouTube Poop to the disambig list in the crowner as the Stupid Statement Dance Mix is a variant of a YouTube Poop.
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Calling in favor of disambiguating.
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OK, it's disambiguated. Here are the wicks.
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Be sure to leave You Know That Show/ alone; that's an archive page.
Edit: Epitaph made; referenced the alternate term (Spartan Remix) in said epitaph.
Edited by Berrenta on Apr 24th 2023 at 9:30:10 AM
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Adding Voice Clip Song to the Disambig.
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Wick update: 524 wicks
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429 now.
Meanwhile, I'm wondering where to move this example in Series.QI. Are we declaring Tropes Are Flexible and making it fit Voice Clip Song, or does it fit something else? There was another example, but it's not listed due to Weblinks Are Not Examples.
- Stupid Statement Dance Mix: A rare real-time example. Within moments of Stephen messing up the "They say of the Acropolis..." line, the others have already created a song around it.
Edit: Asking "Is this an example" thread didn't give anything concrete, so sent to Trope Finder.
Edited by Berrenta on May 4th 2023 at 6:16:26 AM
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Ah man, I've been trying to think about this one since I'm already familiar with the clip in question. I don't think it'd count as VCS because nothing's really edited, they just invent a song using the intended phrase that Stephen Fry misspeaks. ("They say of the Acropolis where the Parthenon is")
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Lol yeah, fair. If nothing comes up, deleting'd be fine, as in my non-QI-watching (thus limited) experience, it's one of the best-known moments. If and when something fits, it'd be put right back on the page.
Edited by Yindee on May 5th 2023 at 10:45:47 AM
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Hence why it's brought up in Trope Finder.
Anyways, less than 400 to go!
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Less than 150!
Edit: Limited Lyrics Song will be added to the disambiguation.
Edited by Berrenta on May 6th 2023 at 10:39:01 AM
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We're done, so locking up.
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Crown Description:
Stupid Statement Dance Mix is used as an Audience Reaction despite not being tagged as YMMV, and there are concerns that it's redundant with Instant Humiliation Just Add You Tube and Memetic Mutation. What should be done with it?
To-do list:
A wick check of 60 wicks (10 more than recommended for this trope) gave these results:
Proposals:
Wick check:
Wick check for Stupid Statement Dance Mix.The problem: Said to be a subtrope of Instant Humiliation: Just Add YouTube!, while at the same time indexed under Memetic Mutation. This gives the impression that some uses are actually YMMV.
Wicks checked: 60/50
Edited by GastonRabbit on Apr 23rd 2023 at 12:55:12 PM
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