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The very first sentence of Aluminium Christmas Trees reads (emphasis added):

A story element that exists or existed in Real Life but is assumed to be fictional by the audience, often because it seems too unlikely, bizarre, or kitschy to be real. Sometimes truth really is stranger than fiction...

So there, right at the start, it states outright that this is an audience reaction. Despite this, it isn't listed on Audience Reactions, it's not officially a subjective trope, and is usually seen on non-YMMV pages. This is not how it should be, since it is in fact a subjective trope by definition.

Here's the wick check.

Wicks checked: 57

  • Audience reaction on a non-YMMV page: 41/57 (71%)
  • Potholes, inline use, and trope descriptions: 14/57 (25%)
  • Indices: 1/57 (2%)
  • Unclear: 1/57 (2%)

It's pretty natural that the vast majority of the examples are describing audience reactions, or at least what the troper imagines the audience reactions to be, since this is an audience reaction. The discussion page shows quite a few people pointing out that it's an audience reaction.

It has also been brought up in TRS thrice before.

  • Angry Scientist brought it up back in 2011; Madrugada said it wasn't subjective on the grounds that even though it's subjective, it doesn't cause natter or flame wars. In the decade plus since then, we've gotten much stricter about how things are classified, and now all audience reactions go on YMMV no matter how uncontroversial they are. As such, I feel justified in bringing this trope up again.
  • In 2017, psvage argued it belonged un Usefulnotes/; Berrenta said no. They were correct, since this isn't a useful note, it's an audience reaction.
  • Most recently, in 2019, Brainulator9 made a "Needs Help" thread for it, suggesting that it could do with a rename. Again, Berrenta was the one who said no, this time on the grounds that there is no evidence the trope is being misused. My wick check agrees; there doesn't seem to be any misuse, but it is clearly an audience reaction.

I hereby make a straightforward proposal: Add Aluminium Christmas Trees to Audience Reactions and move any examples to the YMMV tabs where they belong.

Wick check:

    Audience reaction on a non-YMMV page: 41/ 57 

Characters.Hitman 2016 Elusive Targets

  • Aluminum Christmas Trees: Protagonist and White Cap do use genuine hacker and coding terms while bantering with one another. For example, they mention brute forcing a database with 47 terabytes of rainbow tables, which does sound absolutely hilarious, but it is a genuine hacker term relating to using cryptography and hashes to brute-force certain codes and other hashes in a database. The Technobabble here also falls under Genius Bonus; when Protagonist mentions someone using WEP-128 WiFi encryption on their phone at the party downstairs, he calls it "cute", and immediately hacks them. WEP-128 is notoriously riddled with security holes and user issues, to the point that most modern phone manufacturers don't even support it anymore, outside of legacy options.

Film.Clown Motel

WesternAnimation.Frozen 2013

  • Aluminum Christmas Trees:
    • Many people who viewed the movie were surprised to find that ice harvesting was an actual thing in the 19th century that was especially common in Norway and many other parts of Europe and North America, and was exported to countries as far as the Philippines and the Caribbean. Blocks of ice were put into icehouses to store food before modern refrigerators existed.
    • There was some audience confusion over why some of the ice appears blue, instead of being limited to the more common white and translucent forms. In real life, blue ice is rare but not unheard of, usually forming when the ice is particularly dense.

Literature.B To The F The Novelization Of The Feature Film [[quoteblock]]

Comic Strip.Peanuts

  • Aluminum Christmas Trees:
    • Besides the trope naming artifacts in A Charlie Brown Christmas, there's an early strip where Lucy tries to make Schroeder jealous by claiming she prefers more modern music and Snoopy comes in with an accordion to play "polkas, schottisches, and waltzes." At the time this was a straight reference, while in reprints it looks as though it's a gag on how Lucy and/or Snoopy are out of touch.
    • The character José Peterson represented a Melting-Pot Nomenclature joke at the time, as the idea of someone with a Swedish father and Mexican mother seemed like a bizarrely unlikely combination — it wouldn't be seen as that remarkable in the modern US.

Literature.Cujo

  • Aluminum Christmas Trees: The plot point about Red Razberry Zingers dying children's digestive tracts red is based on a real incident: when Franken Berry Cereal was first introduced in the early 1970s, it included an indigestible pink dye that turned many children's feces pink, prompting General Mills to change the recipe.

WesternAnimation.Clerks The Animated Series

Film.The Great Escape

  • Aluminum Christmas Trees: At the airfield, several of the planes are American AT-6 Texan trainers painted in Luftwaffe colours. The Luftwaffe did indeed have AT-6s in service, captured from Belgium, who had purchased them from the United States.
    • Some viewers initially thought that having one of the escapees disguised as a German soldier was a notable and rather unfortunate mistake on the writer's part, since this was completely against protocol due to the fact that the punishment for being caught in such a disguise would be far more severe than being disguised as a civilian, but the source book indicates that one escapee really was disguised a Luftwaffe Unteroffizernote .

Recap.South Park S 6 E 16 My Future Self N Me

  • Aluminum Christmas Trees: The punchline to the "sodomized...in the ass!" bit is obviously the redundancy of it, but many anti-sodomy laws do consider a wide range of sex acts to also count as sodomy.

Recap.Arthur S 1 E 9 Arthur Babysits Arthurs Cousin Catastrophe

  • Aluminum Christmas Trees: Arthur's Uncle Sean tries, and fails, to act out the book On The Bridges of Medieval Paris: A Record of Early Fourteeth-Century Life by Virginia Wylie Eggbert. While this seems like a joke about Pop-Cultural Osmosis Failure, this is actually a real book. Lampshaded when his wife chides him for not picking a more well-known work, to which he replies "Well, all my friends have read it!"

Film.But Im A Cheerleader

  • Aluminum Christmas Trees: The film exaggerates somewhat the tactics used by True Directions, but some viewers may be shocked at how similar they are to actual conversion therapy programs—mostly in the use of aversion therapy (like electroshock) and trying to make LGBT people act in more gender conforming ways. Historically, these programs were even worse than what we see here. Methods including aversion therapy, lobotomies, nausea-inducing drugs, and chemical castration were used to "cure" a person of their non-straight tendencies. Nowadays, most conversion programs in the United States stick with therapy, psychoanalysis, and (if the program is religion-oriented) prayer, though on occasion you'll hear reports of a (usually unlicensed) camp reverting to the old methods or employing full-on torture to get results.

Recap.Father Ted S 2 E 11 A Christmassy Ted

  • Aluminum Christmas Trees: We're meant to laugh at Dougal for thinking that Terry Wogan is a nickname. Wogan's actual first name is Michael. His mother started calling him Terry to differentiate him from his father who was also called Michael.

WesternAnimation.The Bad Guys

  • Aluminum Christmas Trees: For those outside of North America, the "push pop" seems odd — but it is an actual type of popsicle (ordinarily made with frozen grape or orange sherbet) that's sold there.
[[/quoteblock]

Fanfic.Pokemon X Nimja Play The Game

[[/quoteblock]]

Recap.Pokemon S 1 E 53 The Purrfect Hero

  • Aluminum Christmas Trees: Children's Day is a real holiday in Japan, which the original airing was intended to coincide with.

Music.Hanzel Und Gretyl

Characters.Rurouni Kenshin The Ten Swords

  • Aluminum Christmas Trees: In real life, people with anhidrosis are at extreme risk for overheating. Though most don't actually catch fire the condition can be very deadly. Doing something very physical in a very hot place is not a great idea, no matter how badass the flaming sword attacks make the dramatic final duel look.

WebOriginal.Tendies Stories

  • Aluminum Christmas Trees: Systems similar to Good Boy Points do exist in real-life parenting, except, of course, they are used with actual children and usually don't actually award points for things like "not dumping your festering waste on your mother's bed".

WesternAnimation.Big Hero 6

WebAnimation.Hunter The Parenting

Film.How The Grinch Stole Christmas

  • Aluminum Christmas Trees: A more unconventional instance than most, but still applicable nonetheless: a good number of viewers both then and now thought the Grinch's facial expressions in the film were mostly the result of the makeup Jim Carrey wore, when in actuality he's fully capable of morphing his face to that heavy of a degree on command. One of Carrey's stand-up bits in the 90's involved him doing "facial impressions" of various celebrities, with his version of the Grinch's Evil Grin being a re-purposing of his Jack Nicholson impression; Carrey is still fully capable of pulling off faces like that to this day and typically does it nowadays to amuse child fans and their parents.

Literature.Great Expectations

  • Aluminum Christmas Trees: Wemmick's has turned his house into a miniature castle complete with moat and drawbridge. To modern readers this may seem eccentric, but this was actually quite common for wealthy Victorians. Then again, it may also seem like the act of a rich idiot who wants to impress other rich idiots

Series.The Spanish Princess

  • Aluminum Christmas Trees: Critics were quick to jump at the characters of Lina and Oviedo as examples of forced representation, yet they are actually based on real people.

Literature.Geronimo Stilton

  • Aluminum Christmas Trees: According to Chef Stewrat, his stew has been cooking for 500 years and keeps getting new ingredients added to it. Such a thing is possible, called perpetual stew, although it usually doesn't last that long.

Film.Scrooged

  • Aluminum Christmas Trees: Younger audiences may be confused at the appearance of a cellphone in 1988. Notice how the phone is on a cord that goes to a larger part in Grace's purse. That's a real 1988 cellphone, top of the line.

Film.Rules Of Engagement

  • Aluminum Christmas Trees: The prosecution calls a former North Vietnamese soldier as a witness, who testifies about Childers having executed a prisoner during the Vietnam War. A controversial moment... but less so than the US Navy calling Commander Mochitsura Hashimoto to testify against American Captain Charles McVay, on trial for negligence after Hashimoto torpedoed and sunk his ship.

WesternAnimation.Frozen II

  • Aluminum Christmas Trees: It might look weird to see black people like General Mattias in a 19th century pseudo-Scandinavian kingdom given how many fantasy films have racially homogeneous casts, but he's not just a Black Viking. Norse settlers, traders, and Viking raiders explored all over Europe, including North African and Middle Eastern nations on the Mediterranean sea, and some people from those areas came back to Scandinavia (as either slaves/indentured servants or free-men), so it's not impossible for there to be dark-skinned descendants of those immigrants.

Series.House Of Cards US

  • Aluminum Christmas Trees: It is mentioned that Heather Dunbar's family owns an armored car service. There is an actual armored car service called Dunbar Armored Cars Inc.

WesternAnimation.My Little Pony Equestria Girls Rainbow Rocks

  • Aluminum Christmas Trees: The instruments Trixie's bandmates are playing look bizarre to some fans who haven't seen any live performances of electronic music. They're a fairly accurate representation of typical portable sequencers.

Characters.Red Dead Redemption 2 Strangers And Other Minor Characters

  • Aluminum Christmas Trees: He may seem anachronistic, but the Mafia was powerful enough during the era of the game that his presence in Saint Denis is perfectly plausible.

VideoGame.AI The Somnium Files

  • Aluminum Christmas Trees: Nanotechnology that cures certain illnesses like cancer do actually exist in reality and was first performed on animals like dogs and cats.
    • Hemispatial Neglect, the condition experienced by Rohan Kumakura following a brain injury, is also real. While it doesn't make you into a serial killer, it does cause a deficit in attention toward half of a person's visual field and, as a result, the rest of their environment.

Film.Mother Of Tears

Fanfic.The Chronicles Of Karai Getting Her Shit Together

  • Aluminum Christmas Trees: In Chapter 29, Karai takes Leo to KFC, claiming that it is super popular in Japan during the holidays. In Real Life, KFC as Christmas dinner has been a widespread practice in Japan since 1974.

Video Game.Gloomwood

  • Aluminum Christmas Trees: Despite looking like a work of fiction, the game's folding shotgun is actually based on a real weapon, although touting a regular pump-action mechanism instead of the rear grip and trigger being the pump handle.

Film.Robin Hood 2010

ComicStrip.Prickly City

  • Aluminum Christmas Trees: Cooperative board games are apparently an absurd result of liberal attitudes taken to extremes in the Winslow household, rather than an extremely popular and commercially successful genre.

(This one is on the part of the writer rather than the audience, but I think it still counts)

Trivia.Enders Game

Recap.Yu Gi Oh Anime S 4 E 162 On The Wrong Track 3

  • Aluminum Christmas Trees: The There Is No Kill Like Overkill moment may seem like an element unique to the anime added for drama, but it was actually an official part of the rules before 2015 that the duel couldn't officially end in the middle of a card effect and had to continue until the card fully resolved even if a player's life points had already been reduced to 0. So for a brief time when a nerfed version of Berserker Soul existed in the real game a player could, and legally had to, replicate Yugi's overkill moment by continuing to excavate cards and continue to do damage even if the opponent's life points were already reduced to 0.

VideoGame.Super Mario Sunshine

  • Aluminum Christmas Trees: All the fruit featured in this game are pretty standard and commonplace, with the exception of the durian, which amounts to an organic Spike Ball of Doom that you can't carry around. Its exotic status and spiked nature confused many a gamer but it happens to be a real fruit.

Literature.Harry Potter And The Philosophers Stone

  • Aluminum Christmas Trees: The American edition actually kept the line in about Harry wanting to buy as many Mars Bars as he could eat, even though this was referencing the European version (closer to what Americans call a Milky Way). However, at the time the book takes place and when it was printed, there was a candy bar called Mars available in the U.S.

Characters.Batwoman

  • Aluminum Christmas Trees: Some readers have expressed disbelief that Kate would (or could) have any sort of positive opinion about the military after her dismissal under DADT, let alone still think of herself as a soldier, to the point that some think she should be explicitly antimilitary because of it. However, many real troops discharged under DADT did end up reenlisting after its repeal; while Kate didn't reenlist, her continued, overall favorable view of the armed forces isn't unprecedented for such individuals. Additionally, Kate was raised on an Army base with two career soldiers, which would obviously influence her views on the matter in a positive direction, something that tends to be true of real Military Brats.

VideoGame.Warriors Legends Of Troy

    Potholes and in-line usage: 14/ 57 
Main.Accidentally Correct Writing

  • Garfield:
    • Jon once bought a "battery operated battery charger". The joke was supposed to be that he falls for scams and blows money on "useless" stuff, but it turns out such a concept is far from useless and is totally real. Such devices exist as a means to give portable electronics such as cell phones, laptops, and even car batteries juice in the event of an emergency or if they are being used much more than their battery can handle. In fact nowadays, owing to the much higher reliance on electronics and 5V USB power becoming standardized, power banks are a common household item.

Main.Saturday Morning Cartoon

Back when televisions were rounded instead of flat, unseemly large and heavy, had antennae on top to pick up one of three or four networks or the local independent station(s) (and little knobs for which you physically had to go over to to change channels), getting your cartoon fix was a lot harder. The "Saturday-morning cartoon" format arose in The '60s as advertisers and networks realized the potential of an all-but-captive audience of schoolchildren who could camp out in front of the TV and veg out on three to four hours of animated goodness, enjoying a morning off from both school and church, while Mom and Dad were catching up on sleep lost during the work week.

Main.Spelling Bee

Yes, spelling bees happen regularly in reality, although they're generally more mundane and low-profile than fictional versions.

Characters.Elden Ring Outer Gods

  • Non-Indicative Name: Despite repeatedly being described with Flower Motifs, the Rot has far more in common with fungi then any sort of flora. This appears to be a reference to real world botanical history, as mushrooms were originally categorized as a type of flower before science advanced enough to recognise the differences.

CelebrityParadox.Western Animation

  • Danny Elfman's jaunty Simpsons theme has been heard as diegetic (in-universe) background music on the show. For instance, in "Weekend at Burnsies", Phish guitarist Trey Anastasio is shown playing a few bars of the theme song during their performance at Homer's rally. This is something Anastasio actually did during the band's concerts for several years, often punctuated by him and the audience yelling "D'oh!". In the episode, however, "D'oh!" is replaced by a more generic "Boom!".

Main.Not Making This Up Disclaimer

This is often to avoid Aluminum Christmas Trees.

Main.Companion Cube

Main.The Problem With Pen Island

  • Yes, Pen Island is real. There are actually two Pen islands: East and West Pen Island. They are part of several uninhabited Arctic islands in Nunavut, Canada. West Pen Island is actually a spit, rather than an island. East Pen Island is situated off the shore of Ontario, a few kilometers southeast of Manitoba, and no, it's not a swallow.

Main.El Spanish O

Main.Technology Marches On

Funny.Vinesauce Joel

  • There's now a sequel, and it's just as good as the first one. The biggest highlight might be Joel's recital of Kira's infamous (though surprisingly accurate) discussion about his hand fetish.

YMMV.Twenty Four

  • Narm:
    • "Day 4: 11pm - 12am" involves the hunt for a briefcase containing the US government's nuclear launch codes, known as the "Nuclear Football". This actually is what the briefcase is called in real life, but that didn't keep the dialogue from sounding extremely silly, nor did it stop fans from making endless football jokes.

Characters.Warhammer Other Factions

PlayingWith.Little Known Facts

  • Subverted: Joel quotes facts that sound unlikely and that no one believes, but are actually true.

    Indices: 1/ 57 
Main.Reality Is Unrealistic

    Unclear: 1/ 57 
Memes.Advertising

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    Original post 
The very first sentence of Aluminium Christmas Trees reads (emphasis added):

A story element that exists or existed in Real Life but is assumed to be fictional by the audience, often because it seems too unlikely, bizarre, or kitschy to be real. Sometimes truth really is stranger than fiction...

So there, right at the start, it states outright that this is an audience reaction. Despite this, it isn't listed on Audience Reactions, it's not officially a subjective trope, and is usually seen on non-YMMV pages. This is not how it should be, since it is in fact a subjective trope by definition.

Here's the wick check.

Wicks checked: 57

  • Audience reaction on a non-YMMV page: 41/57 (71%)
  • Potholes, inline use, and trope descriptions: 14/57 (25%)
  • Indices: 1/57 (2%)
  • Unclear: 1/57 (2%)

It's pretty natural that the vast majority of the examples are describing audience reactions, or at least what the troper imagines the audience reactions to be, since this is an audience reaction. The discussion page shows quite a few people pointing out that it's an audience reaction.

It has also been brought up in TRS thrice before.

  • Angry Scientist brought it up back in 2011; Madrugada said it wasn't subjective on the grounds that even though it's subjective, it doesn't cause natter or flame wars. In the decade plus since then, we've gotten much stricter about how things are classified, and now all audience reactions go on YMMV no matter how uncontroversial they are. As such, I feel justified in bringing this trope up again.
  • In 2017, psvage argued it belonged un Usefulnotes/; Berrenta said no. They were correct, since this isn't a useful note, it's an audience reaction.
  • Most recently, in 2019, Brainulator9 made a "Needs Help" thread for it, suggesting that it could do with a rename. Again, Berrenta was the one who said no, this time on the grounds that there is no evidence the trope is being misused. My wick check agrees; there doesn't seem to be any misuse, but it is clearly an audience reaction.

I hereby make a straightforward proposal: Add Aluminium Christmas Trees to Audience Reactions and move any examples to the YMMV tabs where they belong.

Wick check:

    Audience reaction on a non-YMMV page: 41/ 57 

Characters.Hitman 2016 Elusive Targets

  • Aluminum Christmas Trees: Protagonist and White Cap do use genuine hacker and coding terms while bantering with one another. For example, they mention brute forcing a database with 47 terabytes of rainbow tables, which does sound absolutely hilarious, but it is a genuine hacker term relating to using cryptography and hashes to brute-force certain codes and other hashes in a database. The Technobabble here also falls under Genius Bonus; when Protagonist mentions someone using WEP-128 WiFi encryption on their phone at the party downstairs, he calls it "cute", and immediately hacks them. WEP-128 is notoriously riddled with security holes and user issues, to the point that most modern phone manufacturers don't even support it anymore, outside of legacy options.

Film.Clown Motel

WesternAnimation.Frozen 2013

  • Aluminum Christmas Trees:
    • Many people who viewed the movie were surprised to find that ice harvesting was an actual thing in the 19th century that was especially common in Norway and many other parts of Europe and North America, and was exported to countries as far as the Philippines and the Caribbean. Blocks of ice were put into icehouses to store food before modern refrigerators existed.
    • There was some audience confusion over why some of the ice appears blue, instead of being limited to the more common white and translucent forms. In real life, blue ice is rare but not unheard of, usually forming when the ice is particularly dense.

Literature.B To The F The Novelization Of The Feature Film [[quoteblock]]

Comic Strip.Peanuts

  • Aluminum Christmas Trees:
    • Besides the trope naming artifacts in A Charlie Brown Christmas, there's an early strip where Lucy tries to make Schroeder jealous by claiming she prefers more modern music and Snoopy comes in with an accordion to play "polkas, schottisches, and waltzes." At the time this was a straight reference, while in reprints it looks as though it's a gag on how Lucy and/or Snoopy are out of touch.
    • The character José Peterson represented a Melting-Pot Nomenclature joke at the time, as the idea of someone with a Swedish father and Mexican mother seemed like a bizarrely unlikely combination — it wouldn't be seen as that remarkable in the modern US.

Literature.Cujo

  • Aluminum Christmas Trees: The plot point about Red Razberry Zingers dying children's digestive tracts red is based on a real incident: when Franken Berry Cereal was first introduced in the early 1970s, it included an indigestible pink dye that turned many children's feces pink, prompting General Mills to change the recipe.

WesternAnimation.Clerks The Animated Series

Film.The Great Escape

  • Aluminum Christmas Trees: At the airfield, several of the planes are American AT-6 Texan trainers painted in Luftwaffe colours. The Luftwaffe did indeed have AT-6s in service, captured from Belgium, who had purchased them from the United States.
    • Some viewers initially thought that having one of the escapees disguised as a German soldier was a notable and rather unfortunate mistake on the writer's part, since this was completely against protocol due to the fact that the punishment for being caught in such a disguise would be far more severe than being disguised as a civilian, but the source book indicates that one escapee really was disguised a Luftwaffe Unteroffizernote .

Recap.South Park S 6 E 16 My Future Self N Me

  • Aluminum Christmas Trees: The punchline to the "sodomized...in the ass!" bit is obviously the redundancy of it, but many anti-sodomy laws do consider a wide range of sex acts to also count as sodomy.

Recap.Arthur S 1 E 9 Arthur Babysits Arthurs Cousin Catastrophe

  • Aluminum Christmas Trees: Arthur's Uncle Sean tries, and fails, to act out the book On The Bridges of Medieval Paris: A Record of Early Fourteeth-Century Life by Virginia Wylie Eggbert. While this seems like a joke about Pop-Cultural Osmosis Failure, this is actually a real book. Lampshaded when his wife chides him for not picking a more well-known work, to which he replies "Well, all my friends have read it!"

Film.But Im A Cheerleader

  • Aluminum Christmas Trees: The film exaggerates somewhat the tactics used by True Directions, but some viewers may be shocked at how similar they are to actual conversion therapy programs—mostly in the use of aversion therapy (like electroshock) and trying to make LGBT people act in more gender conforming ways. Historically, these programs were even worse than what we see here. Methods including aversion therapy, lobotomies, nausea-inducing drugs, and chemical castration were used to "cure" a person of their non-straight tendencies. Nowadays, most conversion programs in the United States stick with therapy, psychoanalysis, and (if the program is religion-oriented) prayer, though on occasion you'll hear reports of a (usually unlicensed) camp reverting to the old methods or employing full-on torture to get results.

Recap.Father Ted S 2 E 11 A Christmassy Ted

  • Aluminum Christmas Trees: We're meant to laugh at Dougal for thinking that Terry Wogan is a nickname. Wogan's actual first name is Michael. His mother started calling him Terry to differentiate him from his father who was also called Michael.

WesternAnimation.The Bad Guys

  • Aluminum Christmas Trees: For those outside of North America, the "push pop" seems odd — but it is an actual type of popsicle (ordinarily made with frozen grape or orange sherbet) that's sold there.
[[/quoteblock]

Fanfic.Pokemon X Nimja Play The Game

[[/quoteblock]]

Recap.Pokemon S 1 E 53 The Purrfect Hero

  • Aluminum Christmas Trees: Children's Day is a real holiday in Japan, which the original airing was intended to coincide with.

Music.Hanzel Und Gretyl

Characters.Rurouni Kenshin The Ten Swords

  • Aluminum Christmas Trees: In real life, people with anhidrosis are at extreme risk for overheating. Though most don't actually catch fire the condition can be very deadly. Doing something very physical in a very hot place is not a great idea, no matter how badass the flaming sword attacks make the dramatic final duel look.

WebOriginal.Tendies Stories

  • Aluminum Christmas Trees: Systems similar to Good Boy Points do exist in real-life parenting, except, of course, they are used with actual children and usually don't actually award points for things like "not dumping your festering waste on your mother's bed".

WesternAnimation.Big Hero 6

WebAnimation.Hunter The Parenting

Film.How The Grinch Stole Christmas

  • Aluminum Christmas Trees: A more unconventional instance than most, but still applicable nonetheless: a good number of viewers both then and now thought the Grinch's facial expressions in the film were mostly the result of the makeup Jim Carrey wore, when in actuality he's fully capable of morphing his face to that heavy of a degree on command. One of Carrey's stand-up bits in the 90's involved him doing "facial impressions" of various celebrities, with his version of the Grinch's Evil Grin being a re-purposing of his Jack Nicholson impression; Carrey is still fully capable of pulling off faces like that to this day and typically does it nowadays to amuse child fans and their parents.

Literature.Great Expectations

  • Aluminum Christmas Trees: Wemmick's has turned his house into a miniature castle complete with moat and drawbridge. To modern readers this may seem eccentric, but this was actually quite common for wealthy Victorians. Then again, it may also seem like the act of a rich idiot who wants to impress other rich idiots

Series.The Spanish Princess

  • Aluminum Christmas Trees: Critics were quick to jump at the characters of Lina and Oviedo as examples of forced representation, yet they are actually based on real people.

Literature.Geronimo Stilton

  • Aluminum Christmas Trees: According to Chef Stewrat, his stew has been cooking for 500 years and keeps getting new ingredients added to it. Such a thing is possible, called perpetual stew, although it usually doesn't last that long.

Film.Scrooged

  • Aluminum Christmas Trees: Younger audiences may be confused at the appearance of a cellphone in 1988. Notice how the phone is on a cord that goes to a larger part in Grace's purse. That's a real 1988 cellphone, top of the line.

Film.Rules Of Engagement

  • Aluminum Christmas Trees: The prosecution calls a former North Vietnamese soldier as a witness, who testifies about Childers having executed a prisoner during the Vietnam War. A controversial moment... but less so than the US Navy calling Commander Mochitsura Hashimoto to testify against American Captain Charles McVay, on trial for negligence after Hashimoto torpedoed and sunk his ship.

WesternAnimation.Frozen II

  • Aluminum Christmas Trees: It might look weird to see black people like General Mattias in a 19th century pseudo-Scandinavian kingdom given how many fantasy films have racially homogeneous casts, but he's not just a Black Viking. Norse settlers, traders, and Viking raiders explored all over Europe, including North African and Middle Eastern nations on the Mediterranean sea, and some people from those areas came back to Scandinavia (as either slaves/indentured servants or free-men), so it's not impossible for there to be dark-skinned descendants of those immigrants.

Series.House Of Cards US

  • Aluminum Christmas Trees: It is mentioned that Heather Dunbar's family owns an armored car service. There is an actual armored car service called Dunbar Armored Cars Inc.

WesternAnimation.My Little Pony Equestria Girls Rainbow Rocks

  • Aluminum Christmas Trees: The instruments Trixie's bandmates are playing look bizarre to some fans who haven't seen any live performances of electronic music. They're a fairly accurate representation of typical portable sequencers.

Characters.Red Dead Redemption 2 Strangers And Other Minor Characters

  • Aluminum Christmas Trees: He may seem anachronistic, but the Mafia was powerful enough during the era of the game that his presence in Saint Denis is perfectly plausible.

VideoGame.AI The Somnium Files

  • Aluminum Christmas Trees: Nanotechnology that cures certain illnesses like cancer do actually exist in reality and was first performed on animals like dogs and cats.
    • Hemispatial Neglect, the condition experienced by Rohan Kumakura following a brain injury, is also real. While it doesn't make you into a serial killer, it does cause a deficit in attention toward half of a person's visual field and, as a result, the rest of their environment.

Film.Mother Of Tears

Fanfic.The Chronicles Of Karai Getting Her Shit Together

  • Aluminum Christmas Trees: In Chapter 29, Karai takes Leo to KFC, claiming that it is super popular in Japan during the holidays. In Real Life, KFC as Christmas dinner has been a widespread practice in Japan since 1974.

Video Game.Gloomwood

  • Aluminum Christmas Trees: Despite looking like a work of fiction, the game's folding shotgun is actually based on a real weapon, although touting a regular pump-action mechanism instead of the rear grip and trigger being the pump handle.

Film.Robin Hood 2010

ComicStrip.Prickly City

  • Aluminum Christmas Trees: Cooperative board games are apparently an absurd result of liberal attitudes taken to extremes in the Winslow household, rather than an extremely popular and commercially successful genre.

(This one is on the part of the writer rather than the audience, but I think it still counts)

Trivia.Enders Game

Recap.Yu Gi Oh Anime S 4 E 162 On The Wrong Track 3

  • Aluminum Christmas Trees: The There Is No Kill Like Overkill moment may seem like an element unique to the anime added for drama, but it was actually an official part of the rules before 2015 that the duel couldn't officially end in the middle of a card effect and had to continue until the card fully resolved even if a player's life points had already been reduced to 0. So for a brief time when a nerfed version of Berserker Soul existed in the real game a player could, and legally had to, replicate Yugi's overkill moment by continuing to excavate cards and continue to do damage even if the opponent's life points were already reduced to 0.

VideoGame.Super Mario Sunshine

  • Aluminum Christmas Trees: All the fruit featured in this game are pretty standard and commonplace, with the exception of the durian, which amounts to an organic Spike Ball of Doom that you can't carry around. Its exotic status and spiked nature confused many a gamer but it happens to be a real fruit.

Literature.Harry Potter And The Philosophers Stone

  • Aluminum Christmas Trees: The American edition actually kept the line in about Harry wanting to buy as many Mars Bars as he could eat, even though this was referencing the European version (closer to what Americans call a Milky Way). However, at the time the book takes place and when it was printed, there was a candy bar called Mars available in the U.S.

Characters.Batwoman

  • Aluminum Christmas Trees: Some readers have expressed disbelief that Kate would (or could) have any sort of positive opinion about the military after her dismissal under DADT, let alone still think of herself as a soldier, to the point that some think she should be explicitly antimilitary because of it. However, many real troops discharged under DADT did end up reenlisting after its repeal; while Kate didn't reenlist, her continued, overall favorable view of the armed forces isn't unprecedented for such individuals. Additionally, Kate was raised on an Army base with two career soldiers, which would obviously influence her views on the matter in a positive direction, something that tends to be true of real Military Brats.

VideoGame.Warriors Legends Of Troy

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Main.Accidentally Correct Writing

  • Garfield:
    • Jon once bought a "battery operated battery charger". The joke was supposed to be that he falls for scams and blows money on "useless" stuff, but it turns out such a concept is far from useless and is totally real. Such devices exist as a means to give portable electronics such as cell phones, laptops, and even car batteries juice in the event of an emergency or if they are being used much more than their battery can handle. In fact nowadays, owing to the much higher reliance on electronics and 5V USB power becoming standardized, power banks are a common household item.

Main.Saturday Morning Cartoon

Back when televisions were rounded instead of flat, unseemly large and heavy, had antennae on top to pick up one of three or four networks or the local independent station(s) (and little knobs for which you physically had to go over to to change channels), getting your cartoon fix was a lot harder. The "Saturday-morning cartoon" format arose in The '60s as advertisers and networks realized the potential of an all-but-captive audience of schoolchildren who could camp out in front of the TV and veg out on three to four hours of animated goodness, enjoying a morning off from both school and church, while Mom and Dad were catching up on sleep lost during the work week.

Main.Spelling Bee

Yes, spelling bees happen regularly in reality, although they're generally more mundane and low-profile than fictional versions.

Characters.Elden Ring Outer Gods

  • Non-Indicative Name: Despite repeatedly being described with Flower Motifs, the Rot has far more in common with fungi then any sort of flora. This appears to be a reference to real world botanical history, as mushrooms were originally categorized as a type of flower before science advanced enough to recognise the differences.

CelebrityParadox.Western Animation

  • Danny Elfman's jaunty Simpsons theme has been heard as diegetic (in-universe) background music on the show. For instance, in "Weekend at Burnsies", Phish guitarist Trey Anastasio is shown playing a few bars of the theme song during their performance at Homer's rally. This is something Anastasio actually did during the band's concerts for several years, often punctuated by him and the audience yelling "D'oh!". In the episode, however, "D'oh!" is replaced by a more generic "Boom!".

Main.Not Making This Up Disclaimer

This is often to avoid Aluminum Christmas Trees.

Main.Companion Cube

Main.The Problem With Pen Island

  • Yes, Pen Island is real. There are actually two Pen islands: East and West Pen Island. They are part of several uninhabited Arctic islands in Nunavut, Canada. West Pen Island is actually a spit, rather than an island. East Pen Island is situated off the shore of Ontario, a few kilometers southeast of Manitoba, and no, it's not a swallow.

Main.El Spanish O

Main.Technology Marches On

Funny.Vinesauce Joel

  • There's now a sequel, and it's just as good as the first one. The biggest highlight might be Joel's recital of Kira's infamous (though surprisingly accurate) discussion about his hand fetish.

YMMV.Twenty Four

  • Narm:
    • "Day 4: 11pm - 12am" involves the hunt for a briefcase containing the US government's nuclear launch codes, known as the "Nuclear Football". This actually is what the briefcase is called in real life, but that didn't keep the dialogue from sounding extremely silly, nor did it stop fans from making endless football jokes.

Characters.Warhammer Other Factions

PlayingWith.Little Known Facts

  • Subverted: Joel quotes facts that sound unlikely and that no one believes, but are actually true.

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Main.Reality Is Unrealistic

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Memes.Advertising

Edited by GastonRabbit on Jan 16th 2023 at 7:16:39 AM

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#2: Oct 13th 2022 at 7:11:01 AM

Opened.

Proposal sounds good to me.

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#3: Oct 13th 2022 at 7:16:38 AM

[tup]Audience Reactions. And not "any examples", they still have to be contextualized correctly.

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#5: Oct 13th 2022 at 7:19:32 AM

Sounds good to me. If they have the necessary context, stick 'em in YMMV.

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#6: Oct 13th 2022 at 7:24:24 AM

This should absolutely be indexed on Audience Reactions. There's nothing objective about this.

Edit: That, and we already have Eskimos Aren't Real for in-universe examples, which is one of the few cases of an Audience Reaction having an in-universe counterpart without the Audience Reaction being marked as YMMV (at least until we get that fixed), as opposed to the situation between Never Live It Down (YMMV) and Once Done, Never Forgotten (in-universe), for example.

Another edit: I recall bringing up the fact that this is indexed on Unexpected Reactions to This Index in the past, but I don't remember where. Either way, that's an entire index of things the creators didn't expect from audiences, to the point that the index itself is marked as YMMV (though the YMMV tag on that index could be a result of being indexed on Audience Reactions as a subcategory, but either way, the fact that the Audience Reactions index lists it as a subcategory to begin with is further evidence of Unexpected Reactions to This Index being reserved for subjective concepts, Aluminum Christmas Trees included).

Edited by GastonRabbit on Oct 13th 2022 at 9:31:37 AM

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#8: Oct 13th 2022 at 7:42:50 AM

Does its alleged inverted trope Reality Is Unrealistic have the same problem or it has to be checked separately? A quick glance shows me a lot of "viewers" examples.

Edited by Amonimus on Oct 13th 2022 at 5:50:33 PM

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#10: Oct 13th 2022 at 7:54:39 AM

[up][up]While I think it would be worth doing a wick check for it because it also strikes me as subjective (the inversion is in terms of what audiences think is real vs. what they think is fake; the subjective "audiences think this" aspect is present for both), it would be better saved for its own thread.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Oct 13th 2022 at 9:57:37 AM

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#13: Oct 13th 2022 at 10:09:04 AM

Audience reaction for me

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#15: Oct 13th 2022 at 4:04:02 PM

*tosses one more vote on the "yes this is an audience reaction" pile*

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#16: Oct 13th 2022 at 4:09:45 PM

Definitely seems to be an Audience Reaction and should go on YMMV.

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#17: Oct 13th 2022 at 4:13:05 PM

Audience Reaction.

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#18: Oct 13th 2022 at 4:21:07 PM

Well, this is about as straightforward as they come. [tup] move to YMMV.

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#20: Oct 13th 2022 at 6:50:07 PM

Agreed. This is a textbook audience reaction.

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#21: Oct 13th 2022 at 8:18:49 PM

[tup] Absolutely should be an Audience Reaction, since not everyone will assume something weird is fictional.

Edited by harryhenry on Oct 14th 2022 at 4:19:26 AM

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#22: Oct 15th 2022 at 4:02:23 PM

It pleases me that there is so much consensus.

Reality Is Unrealistic might be better as a pure index with no examples, but as has been said, that's a discussion for another thread.

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#24: Oct 16th 2022 at 3:30:16 AM

[up]

I addressed this issue last year at Trope Talk. Glad to see something being done about it.

Edited by eroock on Oct 16th 2022 at 11:08:29 AM

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#25: Oct 16th 2022 at 6:16:39 AM

It's been 3 days and consensus is unanimous. Should we call this?

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