Good to hear, if their are no more changes to impliment I will add them to the page.

Also here is another edit I would like to add to Franchise Original Sin under Superatural:

• Later seasons, especially season six and season eight received a lot of criticism for introducing multiple interesting storylines and characters, then unceremoniously dropping or short changing them. However this has been a problem that has plagued the show since the start. The season one episode “Home” built up Missouri Moseley as an important character to the Winchesters to the point she was even the one who introduced John Winchester to the hunting world, only for her to never appear again, while Tom was unceremoniously killed by Dean midway through the season's finale. The season two finale causally killed off all the special children, and dropped what had been up to that point the shows main plotline with little resolution and multiple questions left unanswered. The difference was in the early seasons the main plot and characters were interesting enough you could ignore this: Azazel is still considered to be among if not the shows greatest villains to this day and the replacement plot was his demonic army being released upon the earth thus changing the series forever. Likewise the show was still new enough for fans to excuse these events and it only happened occasionally. By contrast season six introduced heaven’s civil war, Heaven’s missing weapons, the monster uprising, the surviving members of Campbell clan, the Alpha’s and Eve then unceremoniously dropped all of them in favour of a storyline that seemingly came out of nowhere. Season Eight casually dismissed Ensemble Darkhorse's Linda Tran and Benny, built Naomi up as in important figure then killed her off in favour of Metatron without even revealing what type of Angel she was, and almost completely brushed over Dean spending whole a year in Purgatory.

edited 18th Jul '16 10:48:07 AM by MGD107

@Tomodachi post #2873. Hello.

Chiaotzu. The character was Out of Focus for most of the manga, and his most defining characteristic is being Tien's friend. Even when he was taken out during the tournament, none of the gang went to visit him to in the hospital, unlike Krillin. His only well known moment is making a Stupid Sacrifice that didn't even scratch Nappa. He doesn't even have a line of dialogue with Goku in all of the manga, and like Launch, Toriyama seems to have forgotten about him.

edited 18th Jul '16 11:42:27 AM by war877

Dear, thank you! I'm fixing it right away!

To win, you need to adapt, and to adapt, you need to be able to laugh away all the restraints. Everything holding you back.

Hello! I want to add these tropes to Paulo Coelho YMMV page. Can you help me?

• Critical Dissonance: Paulo Coelho may be one of the best sellers authors in the world, but he isn't highly regarded in the literary community, believing his philosophy to be comparable to Rhonda Byrne The Secret "positive philosophy", as in, literary bullcrap that brings nothing really positive to the world.
• Snark Bait
• Memetic Mutation: Making false quotes out of the man, some of them saying redundant stuff, parodying a song, or talking about how you should be Batman. The origin of this meme comes from the man himself and his self-help books and Twitter accounts giving some sort of advice that, for the people who dislike him, are pretentious crap.

To win, you need to adapt, and to adapt, you need to be able to laugh away all the restraints. Everything holding you back.

• Paulo Coelho may be one of the best sellers authors in the world -> best selling
• believing -> it believes
• Rhonda Byrne The Secret -> Rhonda Byrne's The Secret
• as in, literary -> as in literary

I would split this up into two sentences as follows:

• Snark Bait <—- This is a Zero-Context Example. It needs an explanation of how Paulo Coelho fits the trope. What does he do that's Snark Bait?

• Making false quotes out of the man, some of them saying redundant stuff, parodying a song, or talking about how you should be Batman. -> Creating false quotes attributed to him, such as redundant statements, song parodies or talking about how you should be Batman.

• The origin of this meme comes from the man himself and his self-help books and Twitter accounts giving some sort of advice that, for the people who dislike him, are pretentious crap. -> The origin of this meme is the man himself, his self-help books and Twitter accounts, all giving some sort of advice that the people who dislike him consider pretentious crap.

edited 21st Jul '16 4:30:23 AM by Arivne

@MDG107, post 2876: Here are a few corrections.

... However, this has been a problem ... to the point where she was ... to that point the show's main plotline ... The difference was that in the early seasons, the main plot ... if not the show's greatest villains to this day and the replacement plot was his demonic army being released upon the earth, thus changing the series forever. Likewise, the show was ... the Alphas and Eve and then unceremoniously dropped ... dismissed Ensemble Darkhorses Linda, Tran and Benny, built Naomi up as in an important figure ...

Questions: Tom. He appears to just appear into that sentence.

edited 20th Jul '16 5:36:27 AM by war877

Thanks, sorry about Tom that was meant to be a seperate point which I somehow forgot to cleave. As for Linda, that's not a mistake Linda Tran is her full name, I've made it clearer.

Okay are their anymore errors:

• Later seasons, especially season six and season eight received a lot of criticism for introducing multiple interesting storylines and characters, then unceremoniously dropping or short changing them. However, this has been a problem that has plagued the show since the start. The season one episode “Home” built up Missouri Moseley as an important character to the Winchesters to the point where she was even the one who introduced John Winchester to the hunting world, only for her to never appear again. Tom was unceremoniously killed by Dean midway through the season's finale. The season two finale causally killed off all the special children, and dropped what had been up to that point the show’s main plotline with little resolution and multiple questions left unanswered. Etc. The difference was that in the early seasons the main plot and characters were interesting enough you could ignore this: Azazel is still considered to be among if not the show’s greatest villains to this day and the replacement main plot was his demonic army being released upon the earth, thus changing the series forever. Likewise, the show was still new enough for fans to excuse these events and it only happened occasionally. By contrast season six introduced heaven’s civil war, Heaven’s missing weapons, the monster uprising, the surviving members of Campbell clan, the Alphas and Eve and then unceremoniously dropped all of them in favour of a storyline that seemingly came out of nowhere. Season Eight casually dismissed Ensemble Darkhorses Linda Tran and Benny, built Naomi up as an important figure then killed her off in favour of Metatron without even revealing what type of Angel she was, and almost completely brushed over Dean spending whole a year in Purgatory.

edited 20th Jul '16 8:41:00 AM by MGD107

Putting the Critical and memes tropes doesn't help?

Well, let's try:

• Snark Bait: His positive thinking philosophy. The "universe having a plan for you" message tend to be mocked in some circles, from the fact the message is pretty convenient to make you feel better, but ignores all the people who died tragically or from sickness. It seems like the Universe just like to be a dick to people!

edited 20th Jul '16 9:50:04 AM by Tomodachi

To win, you need to adapt, and to adapt, you need to be able to laugh away all the restraints. Everything holding you back.

Yeah, oops on Linda Tran. Sorry.

You dropped one of the commas I added. But you got all the important ones.

Don't worry, its an easy mistake to make. And yeah I did miss that comma, don't worry I've got it now. So I'll add it to the page now.

No. Each example must have enough information to show that it's valid. You can't assume that any other part of the page will always be there to explain it, as per How to Write an Example - Remember That This Is A Wiki.

• message tend -> message tends
• the Universe just like -> likes

When you have a singular noun like "message" or "Universe", any verb it performs has an "s" on the end (tends, likes).

If a noun is plural (messages, Universes) then the verb doesn't have an s (tend, like).

• ...from the fact the message is pretty convenient to make you feel better, but ignores...

The wording here is incorrect but I can't figure out what you meant to say.

I would just change it to "...from the fact that the message ignores all the people..."

edited 21st Jul '16 4:45:31 AM by Arivne

Sounds fair. Thanks, dear.

edited 21st Jul '16 1:42:24 PM by Tomodachi

To win, you need to adapt, and to adapt, you need to be able to laugh away all the restraints. Everything holding you back.

Okay, I'm sorry but I have quite a lot of edits I would like to add to the Houdini & Doyle page.

• Affectionate Pickpocket: Houdini, being a Stage Magician, has a knack for this and will often lift evidence to help with the investigation.
• Badass Moustache: Just like in real life, Doyle supports an impressive one.
• Berserk Button: Racial discrimination is a big one for Houdini, as it reminds him of the prejudice he and his family faced growing up as Jewish-Hungarian immigrants in America. Is a plot point in “The Monsters of Nethermoor”.
• Broken Pedestal: Happens several times to the main characters:
  • In “A Dish of Adharma” Adelaide greatly admires acclaimed suffragette Lydia Belworth and strongly supports her in her crusade for female liberation. She is very disappointed when she discovers she is not only murderer a man who got her pregnant, but is also willing to kill another innocent woman to stop the truth getting out. Houdini relates a similar incident that happened to himself, when he discovered all the tricks of Stage Magician he spent much of his childhood idolising had no actual skill behind them and relied entirely on playing on people’s gullibility for money, making him in Houdini’s own word “a cheap fraud.”
  • In “Strigoi” Houdini is initially quite excited to meet Bram Stoker, having been a fan of his works for years and read everything back to his original theatre reviews in Dublin. He is quickly put off by Bram’s anti-social traits and extreme eccentricities; by half way through the episode he’s convinced he’s the murderer. He’s innocent
  • Downplayed, in “Necromanteion” Doyle is initially excited to meet Thomas Edison, and admits to have even based a character of his upon him. He’s disappointed to find that Edison not only had never read any of his stories (or nearly anyone’s for that matter), but is an uptight workaholic. Nevertheless he still manages to keep his admiration for Edison’s work ethic and mechanical brilliance.
• Chekhov's Skill: It’s brought up several times over the first four episodes that Houdini can hold his breath longer than anyone else in the world. This comes in handy in “The Curse of Korzha” when he manages to save a little girl whose been tied up to drown.
• Creative Sterility: A recurring plot point throughout the season is that following killing off Sherlock Holmes and finishing his book on the Second Boer War, Doyle is having trouble coming up with anything else to write, and his resistance to writing anymore Sherlock Holmes stories despite the massive popular demand for it. Following a near death experience in the season finale where he actually gets to talk to his creation, he finally accepts the inevitable and starts work on The Hound of the Baskervilles.
• Continuity Nod:
  • In “The Maggie's Redress” Doyle mentions his new motor car, which can reach speeds of nearly ten miles an hour. In “Spring-Heel'd Jack” he and Houdini take it out for a drive.
  • In “The Maggie’s Redress” Houdini draws attention to Tesla being at the party he’s throwing for his mother’s birthday. In “Necromanteion” it’s brought up that Houdini is a friend of Tesla, which Doyle claims is the reason for his distain of Edison.
• Deliberate Values Dissonance:
  • While not focusing on it too much (going with the overall light tone of the series) the show does often bring up the amount of casual misogyny Adelaide regularly faces. As the first female Constable, before meeting Houdini and Doyle she’s forced to work in the basement doing nothing but filing all day, and was partnered with them mostly to get them off Inspector Merring's hands. Nearly every episode she introduces herself is met with a brief moment of disbelief that she really is a police officer with even Houdini initially mistaking her for the tea girl. She likewise will sometimes bring up the problems women face especially not having the right to vote.
  • Houdini at one points brings up the Anti-Semitism he and his family faced growing up in America, to the point that as a child his father was turned down for trying to buy some vegetables at a store that refused to serve him, and Houdini himself was nearly arrested for protesting about it.
  • “The Monsters of Nethermoor” focuses a lot on the amount of racial bigotry that existed in rural England at the time, with it being revealed that the villagers outright murdered several of the immigrant workers when the mines dried up driving a whole community of them to spend over thirty years hiding underground. Doyle himself admits in the same episode, that as a child he let his families black servant take the blame for a theft from his cousin that he himself committed, something which he’s deeply ashamed about in the present.
  • While quite forward thinking men for their time both Houdini and Doyle find the prospect that Adalaide’s late husband might have been a homosexual unpleasant to think about.
  • While in Canada investigating a case of an entire village suddenly dropping down dead in “The Pall of LaPier” a plot point is the land original belonged to First Nations, who in living memory were driven off their land so that settlers could build a mine, the process of which killed many of them. Likewise the local police sergeant, while seemingly on relatively good terms with the local chief, first response to disaster is to blame it upon the First Nations despite not having a shred of evidence they are in anyway connected.
• Escape Artist: As in real life, Houdini is a master of this, a skill that serves them well through the series. However, in “The Monsters of Nethermoor” he admits a lot of his escapes came from in depth preparation, so when tied up by a simple well-made rope and unable to reach the knots, he struggles to find a way out. Doyle simply smashes a nearby bottle and uses the glass to cut them free.
• Freudian Excuse:
  • Houdini’s distain for fake paranormal events and passion for disproving them, stems from guilt over a trick he performed several years ago that went horribly wrong. He managed to convince a woman he was conversing with her dead husband however, this inspired her to commit suicide to be with him; leaving behind two children.
  • Doyle’s distain and near paranoid dislike for alcoholics stems from watching his father’s decent into alcoholism and finally madness.
  • Inspector Merring extreme protectiveness towards children stems from his own son pointlessly dying in the Boer War, and his refusal for any other child’s needless death or any other parent to experience the anguish of losing them. He even expresses some sympathy towards the antagonist in “The Curse of Korzha” as he was motivated by the police failing to bring his own son’s killer to justice.
• Happily Married: Doyle and Mary Louise (his beloved Touie) were this, thus making her falling into a comma from Tuberculosis all the more hard for him.
• Hollywood Atheist: While coming from a Jewish family, Houdini has no belief in anything that can be proven by science and actively denounces any belief in the existence of an afterlife.
• Hypocrisy Nod: In “The Curse of Korzha” Houdini discovers the local medium Madame Korzha changed her name to fit the part better and argues this is evidence she is suspicious. Doyle wastes no time reminding him that he also changed his name to further his career.
• Jerkass: Inspector Horace Merring, while his disdain for Houdini and Doyle helping out (or in his opinion interfering in police work) is somewhat understandable especially with their ability to show his constables up, his misogynistic attitude towards Adelaide and general smugness makes him pretty unlikable.
• Jerk with a Heart of Gold:
  • Houdini, in contrast to Nice Guy Doyle. He’s arrogant, boastful, enjoys trolling his friends and normally gets involved with these cases just to prove there is nothing supernatural happening. However, he has a strong moral centre and is genuinely a caring man, plus if you can put up with jokes, he is a pretty great friend.
  • Inspector Merring has his moments, while obstructive, snobbish and misogynistic he nevertheless is firmly on the side of law and justice, likewise when dealing with a serious problem he will drop his prejudices and except outside help. If the case involves children being in danger, he’ll actively welcome it and try to solve the matter personally.
• Master of Unlocking: As an escape artist Houdini can near effortlessly pick just about any type lock, with nothing more than a hairpin and often less; he quite effortlessly can escape handcuffs. This trait is used practically once an episode.
• Maybe Magic, Maybe Mundane: In “A Dish of Adharma” Houdini is quite happy that the seeming case of reincarnation was explained away by the boy gaining the journal of the murdered man and becoming obsessed with him as he was secretly his father. Doyle however is quick to point out this doesn’t explain how the boy knew where the man's body was buried, or how he gained a mark on his forehead in the exact same place his father was shot.
• Momma's Boy: Not played negatively, but Houdini is very close and caring towards his mother. He admits to Adelaide in the first episode that he finds the main benefit of his acquired wealth is it means he gets to give her everything she had lacked throughout her life and then some.
• Non-Idle Rich: As a famous escape artist and Stage Magician Houdini has plenty of money by this point, Doyle himself is reasonably well off being a famous author and a former doctor, both of them dedicate a lot their time to investigating crimes.
• O.O.C. Is Serious Business:
  • The normally disdainful and obstructive Inspector Merring welcoming outside help to assist the police force (a psychic no less), and him actively trying to solve the case himself rather than delegating it? A sign there is a child killing mad man on the loose.
  • Despite being a Hollywood Atheist and possessing contempt for the idea of an afterlife, Houdini breaks down into praying in Hebrew, after finally accepting his beloved mother’s death.
• Parents as People: Doyle is by any standards a loving, caring and supportive father towards his children Mary and Kingsley. However following their mother falling into a coma, and his occasionally inability to deal with his own problems, he does sometimes have trouble being there for them. Is a plot point in “A Dish of Adharma” and “Bedlam”.
• Pint-Sized Powerhouse: Houdini, as in real life, is a short man, however due to the sheer physical strain that his escapes require he is physical quite strong, as demonstrated in “The Monsters of Nethermoor” where he wipes the floor with a much bigger man after being challenged to a fist fight.
• Screw the Rules, I Have Connections!: Doyle knows a variety of important people, including the Home Sectary and is not above calling upon them if he needs something like a warrant to help with an investigation.
• Serial Killer: Subverted, in “The Curse of Korzha” it appears there is a lunatic on the loose, who has already drowned one boy and attempts to drown several other children. However it turns out the attempted killer of second and third child was in fact the father of the first victim, who was trying to kill more children so that the police would bring back attention to finding who killed his son.
• Super Doc: Despite no longer practicing Doyle is still an a doctor, and proves to be incredibly knowledgeable in a variety of fields of medicine including accurately knowing the symptoms of obscure diseases, toxicology, forensics and can perform autopsies (though the last one he is reluctant to do and doesn’t believe himself to be qualified).
• Vitriolic Best Buds: Houdini and Doyle to a tee, they spend of their most of their time snarking at the other, even in life and death situations, and will never miss an opportunity to get one over the other. However, they do enjoy each other’s company and hold a great level of respect for the other. The second one is in danger, the other will lose it. It’s well demonstrated in the first episode, after an entire episode of claiming that he will use the copy of Doyle’s most recent book that he’ll win as part of their bet to steady his piano, at the end we see Houdini carefully putting the book on a private self dedicated only to Doyle’s works.

edited 23rd Jul '16 5:39:11 AM by MGD107

Wow. That is a lot. I simply will not be able to look at most of them today due to a tight schedule.

• Badass Moustache: Just like in real life, Doyle supports sports an impressive one.
• Berserk Button: ...in America. It is a plot point in “The Monsters of Nethermoor”.

• Broken Pedestal:
  • In “A Dish of Adharma” Adelaide greatly admires acclaimed suffragette Lydia Belworth and strongly supports her in her crusade for female liberation. She is very disappointed when she discovers she is not only a murderer of a man who got her pregnant, but is also willing to kill another innocent woman to stop the truth from getting out. Houdini relates a similar incident that happened to himself, when he discovered all the tricks of a Stage Magician he spent much of his childhood idolising had no actual skill behind them and relied entirely on playing on people’s gullibility for money, making him in Houdini’s own words “a cheap fraud.”
  • In “Strigoi” Houdini is initially quite excited to meet Bram Stoker, having been a fan of his works for years and having read everything back to his original theatre reviews in Dublin... He’s innocent.
  • Downplayed, in “Necromanteion”. Doyle is initially excited to meet Thomas Edison, and admits to have even based a character of his upon him. He’s disappointed to find that Edison not only had never read any of his stories (or nearly anyone’s for that matter), but is an uptight workaholic. Nevertheless, he still manages to keep his admiration for Edison’s work ethic and mechanical brilliance.

• Chekhov's Skill: ...This comes in handy in “The Curse of Korzha” when he manages to save a little girl whose who's been tied up to drown.
• Creative Sterility: A recurring plot point throughout the season is that following killing off Sherlock Holmes and finishing his book on the Second Boer War, Doyle is having trouble coming up with anything else to write, and his resistance is resistant to writing anymore Sherlock Holmes stories despite the massive popular demand for it.

• Deliberate Values Dissonance:
  • While not ... As the first female constable, before meeting Houdini and Doyle she’s she was forced to work in the basement doing nothing but filing all day, and was partnered with them mostly to get them off Inspector Merring's hands. Nearly every episode, when she introduces herself she is met with a brief moment of disbelief that she really is a police officer with even Houdini initially mistaking her for the tea girl. She likewise will sometimes bring up the problems women face, especially not having the right to vote.
  Suggestion: out of Inspector Merring's hair.
  • While quite forward thinking men for their time, both Houdini and Doyle...
  • While in Canada investigating a case of an entire village suddenly dropping down dead in “The Pall of LaPier” a plot point is the land originally belonged to First Nations, who in living memory were driven off their land so that settlers could build a mine, the process of which killed many of them. Likewise the local police sergeant's, while seemingly on relatively good terms with the local chief, first response to the disaster is to blame it upon the First Nations despite not having a shred of evidence they are in anyway connected.
• Escape Artist: ... However, in “The Monsters of Nethermoor”, he admits ...

• Freudian Excuse:
  • Houdini’s distain for fake paranormal events and passion for disproving them ,  stems from guilt over a trick he performed several years ago that went horribly wrong. He managed to convince a woman he was conversing with her dead husband. However, this inspired her to commit suicide to be with him ; , leaving behind two children.
  • Inspector Merring's extreme protectiveness ...

Stopped at happily married.

@MDG: Okay, I finished.

• Happily Married: Doyle and Mary Louise (his beloved Touie) , or his beloved Touie as he called her, were this, thus making her falling into a comma from Tuberculosis all the more hard for him.
• Hollywood Atheist: While coming from a Jewish family, Houdini has no belief in anything that can be has not been proven by science and actively denounces any belief in the existence of an afterlife.
• Hypocrisy Nod: In “The Curse of Korzha”, Houdini discovers...

• Jerk with a Heart of Gold:
  • Houdini, in contrast to Nice Guy Doyle. He’s arrogant, boastful, enjoys trolling his friends and normally gets involved with these cases just to prove there is nothing supernatural happening. However, he has a strong moral centre and is genuinely a caring man , . Plus, if you can put up with jokes, he is a pretty great friend.
  • Inspector Merring has his moments , . While obstructive, snobbish and misogynistic, he nevertheless is firmly on the side of law and justice, likewise when dealing with a serious problem he will drop his prejudices and accept outside help. If the case involves children being in danger, he’ll actively welcome it and try to solve the matter personally.

• Maybe Magic, Maybe Mundane: In “A Dish of Adharma”, Houdini is quite happy...
• Non-Idle Rich: As a famous escape artist and Stage Magician, Houdini has plenty of money by this point ,. Doyle himself is reasonably well off, being a famous author and a former doctor , . Both of them dedicate a lot their time to investigating crimes.

• OOC Is Serious Business:
  • Despite being a Hollywood Atheist and possessing contempt for the idea of an afterlife, Houdini breaks down into praying in Hebrew ,  after finally accepting his beloved mother’s death.

• Parents as People: Doyle is by any standards a loving, caring and supportive father towards his children Mary and Kingsley. However, following their mother falling into a coma, and his occasional ly  inability to deal with his own problems, he does sometimes have trouble being there for them. It is a plot point in “A Dish of Adharma” and “Bedlam”.
• Pint-Sized Powerhouse: Houdini, as in real life, is a short man , . However, due to the sheer physical strain that his escapes require, he is physically quite strong, as demonstrated in “The Monsters of Nethermoor”, where he wipes the floor with a much bigger man after being challenged to a fist fight.
• Screw the Rules, I Have Connections!: Doyle knows a variety of important people, including the Home Sectary, and is not above calling upon them if he needs something like a warrant to help with an investigation.
• Serial Killer: Subverted , . In “The Curse of Korzha”, it appears there is a lunatic on the loose, who has already drowned one boy and attempts to drown several other children. However, it turns out the attempted killer of the second and third children was in fact the father of the first victim, who was trying to kill more children so that the police would bring back attention to finding who killed his son.
• Super Doc: Despite no longer practising, Doyle is still an a doctor, and proves to be incredibly knowledgeable in a variety of fields of medicine including accurately knowing an accurate knowledge of the symptoms of obscure diseases, toxicology, forensics and can perform autopsies (though the last one , though he is reluctant to do autopsies and doesn’t believe himself to be qualified).
• Vitriolic Best Buds: Houdini and Doyle to a tee , . They spend of their most of their time snarking at the other, even in life and death situations, and will never miss an opportunity to get one over the other make one at the other's expense. However, they do enjoy each other’s company and hold a great level deal of respect for the other. When the second one is in danger, the other will lose it. It’s well demonstrated in the first episode , : after an entire episode of claiming that he will use the copy of Doyle’s most recent book that he’ll win as part of their bet to steady his piano, at the end we see Houdini carefully putting the book on a private self dedicated only to Doyle’s works.

Questions and comments welcome.

Thank you and sorry its so long.

Well here it is again, with your changes:

• Affectionate Pickpocket: Houdini, being a Stage Magician, has a knack for this and will often lift evidence to help with the investigation.
• Badass Moustache: Just like in real life, Doyle sports an impressive one.
• Berserk Button: Racial discrimination is a big one for Houdini, as it reminds him of the prejudice he and his family faced growing up as Jewish-Hungarian immigrants in America. It is a plot point in “The Monsters of Nethermoor”.
• Broken Pedestal: Happens several times to the main characters:
  • In “A Dish of Adharma” Adelaide greatly admires acclaimed suffragette Lydia Belworth and strongly supports her in her crusade for female liberation. She is very disappointed when she discovers she is not only a murderer of a man who got her pregnant, but is also willing to kill another innocent woman to stop the truth from getting out. Houdini relates a similar incident that happened to himself, when he discovered all the tricks of a Stage Magician he spent much of his childhood idolising had no actual skill behind them and relied entirely on playing on people’s gullibility for money, making him in Houdini’s own words “a cheap fraud.”
  • In “Strigoi” Houdini is initially quite excited to meet Bram Stoker, having been a fan of his works for years and having read everything back to his original theatre reviews in Dublin. He is quickly put off by Bram’s anti-social traits and extreme eccentricities; by half way through the episode he’s convinced he’s the murderer. He’s innocent.
  • Downplayed, in “Necromanteion” Doyle is initially excited to meet Thomas Edison, and admits to have even based a character of his upon him. He’s disappointed to find that Edison not only had never read any of his stories (or nearly anyone’s for that matter), but is an uptight workaholic. Nevertheless he still manages to keep his admiration for Edison’s work ethic and mechanical brilliance.
• Chekhov's Skill: It’s brought up several times over the first four episodes that Houdini can hold his breath longer than anyone else in the world. This comes in handy in “The Curse of Korzha” when he manages to save a little girl who’s been tied up to drown.
• Creative Sterility: A recurring plot point throughout the season is that following killing off Sherlock Holmes and finishing his book on the Second Boer War, Doyle is having trouble coming up with anything else to write, and is resistant to writing anymore Sherlock Holmes stories despite the massive popular demand for it. Following a near death experience in the season finale where he actually gets to talk to his creation, he finally accepts the inevitable and starts work on The Hound of the Baskervilles.
• Continuity Nod:
  • In “The Maggie's Redress” Doyle mentions his new motor car, which can reach speeds of nearly ten miles an hour. In “Spring-Heel'd Jack” he and Houdini take it out for a drive.
  • In “The Maggie’s Redress” Houdini draws attention to Tesla being at the party he’s throwing for his mother’s birthday. In “Necromanteion” it’s brought up that Houdini is a friend of Tesla, which Doyle claims is the reason for his distain of Edison.
• Deliberate Values Dissonance:
  • While not focusing on it too much (going with the overall light tone of the series) the show does often bring up the amount of casual misogyny Adelaide regularly faces. As the first female constable, before meeting Houdini and Doyle she was forced to work in the basement doing nothing but filing all day, and was partnered with them mostly to get them out of Inspector Merring's hair. Nearly every episode, when she introduces herself she is met with a brief moment of disbelief that she really is a police officer with even Houdini initially mistaking her for the tea girl. She likewise will sometimes bring up the problems women face, especially not having the right to vote.
  • Houdini at one points brings up the Anti-Semitism he and his family faced growing up in America, to the point that as a child his father was turned down for trying to buy some vegetables at a store that refused to serve him, and Houdini himself was nearly arrested for protesting about it.
  • “The Monsters of Nethermoor” focuses a lot on the amount of racial bigotry that existed in rural England at the time, with it being revealed that the villagers outright murdered several of the immigrant workers when the mines dried up driving a whole community of them to spend over thirty years hiding underground. Doyle himself admits in the same episode, that as a child he let his families black servant take the blame for a theft from his cousin that he himself committed, something which he’s deeply ashamed about in the present.
  • While quite forward thinking men for their time, both Houdini and Doyle find the prospect that Adalaide’s late husband might have been a homosexual unpleasant to think about.
  • While in Canada investigating a case of an entire village suddenly dropping down dead in “The Pall of LaPier” a plot point is the land originally belonged to First Nations, who in living memory were driven off their land so that settlers could build a mine, the process of which killed many of them. Likewise the local police sergeant’s, while seemingly on relatively good terms with the local chief, first response to the disaster is to blame it upon the First Nations despite not having a shred of evidence they are in anyway connected.
• Escape Artist: As in real life, Houdini is a master of this, a skill that serves them well through the series. However, in “The Monsters of Nethermoor”, he admits a lot of his escapes came from in depth preparation, so when tied up by a simple well-made rope and unable to reach the knots, he struggles to find a way out. Doyle simply smashes a nearby bottle and uses the glass to cut them free.
• Freudian Excuse:
  • Houdini’s distain for fake paranormal events and passion for disproving them stems from guilt over a trick he performed several years ago that went horribly wrong. He managed to convince a woman he was conversing with her dead husband. However, this inspired her to commit suicide to be with him, leaving behind two children.
  • Doyle’s distain and near paranoid dislike for alcoholics stems from watching his father’s decent into alcoholism and finally madness.
  • Inspector Merring’s extreme protectiveness towards children stems from his own son pointlessly dying in the Boer War, and his refusal for any other child’s needless death or any other parent to experience the anguish of losing them. He even expresses some sympathy towards the antagonist in “The Curse of Korzha” as he was motivated by the police failing to bring his own son’s killer to justice.
• Happily Married: Doyle and Mary Louise or his beloved Touie as he called her, were this, thus making her falling into a comma from Tuberculosis all the more hard for him.
• Hollywood Atheist: While coming from a Jewish family, Houdini has no belief in anything that has not been proven by science and actively denounces any belief in the existence of an afterlife.
• Hypocrisy Nod: In “The Curse of Korzha”, Houdini discovers the local medium Madame Korzha changed her name to fit the part better and argues this is evidence she is suspicious. Doyle wastes no time reminding him that he also changed his name to further his career.
• Jerkass: Inspector Horace Merring, while his disdain for Houdini and Doyle helping out (or in his opinion interfering in police work) is somewhat understandable especially with their ability to show his constables up, his misogynistic attitude towards Adelaide and general smugness makes him pretty unlikable.
• Jerk with a Heart of Gold:
  • Houdini, in contrast to Nice Guy Doyle. He’s arrogant, boastful, enjoys trolling his friends and normally gets involved with these cases just to prove there is nothing supernatural happening. However, he has a strong moral centre and is genuinely a caring man. Plus, if you can put up with jokes, he is a pretty great friend.
  • Inspector Merring has his moments. While obstructive, snobbish and misogynistic, he nevertheless is firmly on the side of law and justice, likewise when dealing with a serious problem he will drop his prejudices and accept outside help. If the case involves children being in danger, he’ll actively welcome it and try to solve the matter personally.
• Master of Unlocking: As an escape artist Houdini can near effortlessly pick just about any type lock, with nothing more than a hairpin and often less; he quite effortlessly can escape handcuffs. This trait is used practically once an episode.
• Maybe Magic, Maybe Mundane: In “A Dish of Adharma”, Houdini is quite happy that the seeming case of reincarnation was explained away by the boy gaining the journal of the murdered man and becoming obsessed with him as he was secretly his father. Doyle however is quick to point out this doesn’t explain how the boy knew where the man's body was buried, or how he gained a mark on his forehead in the exact same place his father was shot.
• Momma's Boy: Not played negatively, but Houdini is very close and caring towards his mother. He admits to Adelaide in the first episode that he finds the main benefit of his acquired wealth is it means he gets to give her everything she had lacked throughout her life and then some.
• Non-Idle Rich: As a famous escape artist and Stage Magician, Houdini has plenty of money by this point. Doyle himself is reasonably well off being a famous author and a former doctor. Both of them dedicate a lot their time to investigating crimes.
• O.O.C. Is Serious Business:
  • The normally disdainful and obstructive Inspector Merring welcoming outside help to assist the police force (a psychic no less), and him actively trying to solve the case himself rather than delegating it? A sign there is a child killing mad man on the loose.
  • Despite being a Hollywood Atheist and possessing contempt for the idea of an afterlife, Houdini breaks down into praying in Hebrew after finally accepting his beloved mother’s death.
• Parents as People: Doyle is by any standards a loving, caring and supportive father towards his children Mary and Kingsley. However, following their mother falling into a coma, and his occasional inability to deal with his own problems, he does sometimes have trouble being there for them. It is a plot point in “A Dish of Adharma” and “Bedlam”.
• Pint-Sized Powerhouse: Houdini, as in real life, is a short man. However, due to the sheer physical strain that his escapes require, he is physically quite strong, as demonstrated in “The Monsters of Nethermoor”, where he wipes the floor with a much bigger man after being challenged to a fist fight.
• Screw the Rules, I Have Connections!: Doyle knows a variety of important people, including the Home Sectary, and is not above calling upon them if he needs something like a warrant to help with an investigation.
• Serial Killer: Subverted. In “The Curse of Korzha” it appears there is a lunatic on the loose, who has already drowned one boy and attempts to drown several other children. However, it turns out the attempted killer of the second and third children was in fact the father of the first victim, who was trying to kill more children so that the police would bring back attention to finding who killed his son.
• Super Doc: Despite no longer practising, Doyle is still a doctor, and proves to be incredibly knowledgeable in a variety of fields of medicine including an accurate knowledge of the symptoms of obscure diseases, toxicology, forensics and can perform autopsies, though he is reluctant to do autopsies and doesn’t believe himself to be qualified.
• Vitriolic Best Buds: Houdini and Doyle to a tee. They spend most of their time snarking at the other, even in life and death situations, and will never miss an opportunity to make one at the other’s expense. However, they do enjoy each other’s company and hold a great deal of respect for the other. When one is in danger, the other will lose it. It’s well demonstrated in the first episode: after an entire episode of claiming that he will use the copy of Doyle’s most recent book that he’ll win as part of their bet to steady his piano, at the end we see Houdini carefully putting the book on a private self dedicated only to Doyle’s works.

Excuse me, I want to get an appeal to get back editing, so I want to at least prove my english.

In the YMMV for Epic Rap Battles of History

• The Scrappy:
  • Miley Cyrus rivals Justin Bieber in terms of popularity. Most complaints involve her being the opponent for Joan of Arc and have a too negative portrayal.

edited 30th Jul '16 9:31:35 AM by kennydarmawan13

Okay I'm afraid I've got another long one, here are some edits I would like to add to Porridge

• Anti-Hero: Fletcher mostly means well, and isn’t truly a bad man at heart. However he is a shameless thief and habitual criminal.
• Jerk with a Heart of Gold: Fletcher may be blunt, a criminal and a cheat. However at heart he truly isn’t that bad a guy. A good example of his kinder side is him keeping quiet about the fact he was responsible for forcing the troubled Reg Erwin to give up his gun, despite the fact such an act could gain him an early pardon, specifically so that Reg would finally get some much needed psychiatric help.
• Lovable Rogue: Fletcher has been in prison for much of his life, is described as a habitual criminal and is quite immoral. However he is constantly supportive to the other newer inmates: he helps Godber adapt to his incarceration, made McLaren realise that his temper was causing him most of his problems, and wrote several of their letters to their lovers (including Lukewarm's boyfriend) due to the others were worrying that there imprisonment would wreck their relationships. Likewise, his quick wit provides a lot of the show's humour.
• Manipulative Bastard: Fletcher is something of a master at manipulation adapting his tactics depending on his target. He plays on Mr Barrowclough’s gentle nature and sympathy towards the inmates to get him to agree to things he shouldn't such as letting him run off to town while out on a workday on a supposed mercy mission (when he instead sneaks off to the pub) or getting him extra blankets for his cell. With the Governor, he uses charm and by carefully paying attention to every piece of information he finds out about him. Such as finding him the perfect sized book to fix his wobbly cabinet distracting him long enough to steal several items off his desk. When it comes to the other inmates, Fletcher just convincingly lies knowing most of them are too stupid to realize till it’s too late. For example he gets Ives to believe that "Little Women" was about a tribe of sex starved female Pygmy's in South America, so that Ive's would pay Fletcher to reserve the book for him.

For Ives:

• Butt-Monkey: Ives often suffers, such as getting badly stung by a rare insect while out on a working party, and he almost always brings it on himself.
• Dirty Coward: At the first sign things are getting serious, you can always count on Ives to try to get away.
• The Friend Nobody Likes: Justified, None of the inmates like Ives but have to put up with him as they are all locked up together.
• Jerkass: Ives is a lazy, cowardly, snivelling cheat and snitch; and as such is despised by most of the prison. Even Mackay calls him "horrible Ives."

For McLaren:

• Hair-Trigger Temper: McLaren will get aggressive at the slightest provocation. It’s especially bad in his first appearance where he even grabs Fletcher by the collar for simply knocking into him. Deconstructed, as this trait effectively ruined his life, and is the reason he’s in prison in the first place. Fletcher outright spells out to him how if he turned the other cheek a few more times he wouldn’t be in his present situation, and it isn’t worth sacrificing so much just for his pride. As such he mellows out in later appearances, but it never completely goes away.
• The Big Guy: In the event anything physical needs to be done, such as dragging Harris to a mock trial or starting a riot, it always falls to McLaren to do it. Not that he complains.
• Freudian Excuse: McLaren is aggressive and resorts to violence far too quickly; however his life hasn’t been a happy one, growing up in Scotland as a half-black illegitimate orphan. Fletcher even acknowledges he’s had it “harder than most”.
• Scary Black Man: McLaren really can be intimidating when he’s angry. Most of the other inmates are afraid of him when he gets riled up.
• Violent Glaswegian: A Scotsman, McLaran is a physical angry young man, who jumps to violence far too quickly.

For Harry Grout:

• The Dreaded: Grouty is feared throughout the prison, simply because everyone knows displeasing him will end with him sending one of his many heavies after you, or worse. Even Fletcher is terrified of him.
• Evil Is Bigger: While not huge, at six foot he still towers over the shorter Fletcher and most of the cast.
• Faux Affably Evil: Grouty is charming, polite, and never even raises his voice. If he’s in a good mood he might even be willing to bribe you. However fail him, anger him or even annoy him, and he’ll happily send his goons in to beat you senseless.
• Knightof Cerebus: Whenever Harry Grout makes an appearance the stakes get a lot higher, and the show dips into a lot more Black Comedy.
• London Gangster: Harry Grout is a high up east London mob boss, and is a very powerful man layered deep in organised crime.
• Pragmatic Villainy: Do a job for him well enough, and Grouty will likely see you receive a little reward. He didn’t rise so high in organised crime without understanding the importance of business relationships.

For Blanco:

• Beware of the Nice Ones: Blanco is one of the gentlest inmates in the entire prison; however it’s revealed in his final appearance that he killed the man who murdered his wife and framed him for the crime years earlier.
• Cool Old Guy: Blanco is a friendly, cheerful and in many ways cunning man (such as using his prison allotment to secretly make alcohol). He is quite well liked by most of the inmates.
• Nice Guy: Blanco is among the friendliest and most likable inmates in Slade prison. Trying to cheat him in anyway will earn the scorn of the majority of other inmates.
• The Old Convict: Blanco has been in Slade prison for over twenty years, partially due to him rejecting parole on the grounds of him protesting his innocence in killing his wife.

For Warren:

• The Ditz: Warren isn’t really that bright, he often takes a while to realise he’s even been insulted.

For Lukewarm:

• Affectionate Pickpocket: As one episode shows, Lukewarm is a master of this, managing to pinch Mackay’s watch and wallet with nothing more than a friendly handshake.
• Big Fun: Certainly on the hefty side, however he is a likable fellow whom the other inmates get along well with.
• Camp Gay: Is an openly homosexual man, who enjoys sowing, is the Team Mom, and speaks with a bit of lisp.
• Nice Guy: Even for the cast, while certainly taking his part in Fletcher’s schemes, Lukewarm is generally friendly to everyone, to the point where he doesn’t even antagonise the guards like the others do.
• Team Mom: Lukewarm is pretty kind and nurturing towards the other inmates including sowing his friend’s socks. Fletcher even admits if he had had a mother like Lukewarm he would probably have turned out straight.

For Cyril:

• Cloud Cuckoolander: Cyril is childish, and has a very strange way a looking at the world, commonly launch into random and often confusing anecdotes that rarely have any relation to what the conversation was about. It’s summed up best by the fact that upon hearing his birthday was April 1st (April Fools’ Day) Fletcher found it very appropriate.
• The Ditz: Cyril is really quite slow; it often takes him to the end of a conversation to properly process the first thing that was said, often laughing at jokes minutes after they were told or asking questions about subjects the conversation has moved on from. Mackay describes him as “thick as two short planks.”

For Harris:

• Asshole Victim: It’s entirely down to him being so repulsive that Grouty having his thugs torture him stays within in the sphere of Black Comedy.
• Butt-Monkey: Generally his unpleasant deeds come back to bite him. He was even arrested when he tried to mug a little old lady, only for it to turn out she had a brick in her handbag.
• Evil Redhead: Harris is a smug, cowardly bully with red hair, who only ever picks on people he’s convinced are weaker than him.

For Mackay:

• Deadpan Snarker: For someone so straight faced, Mackay is surprisingly quick and witty.
• The Dreaded: Amongst the Prison guards, he holds this reputation, as he is easily the harshest and toughest of them all.
• Drill Sergeant Nasty: Was an actual drill sergeant in the Argyle and Southern Highlanders before becoming a prison officer. He certainly still acts like he is one, constantly barking orders at the prisoners.
• Hair-Trigger Temper: Mackay is an easy enough man to set off, especially when it involves Fletcher. It’s not helped by Fletcher often intentionally pushes Mackay’s buttons.
• Inspector Javert: Mackay is only doing his job and is often right in his suspicions that Fletcher is up to his tricks. If he wasn’t so harsh and strict it would be hard to disagree with him.
• Large Ham: Has a habit of shouting the majority of his lines.
• The Napoleon: Like Fletcher, Mackay is a bit short, especially compared to the much taller Mr. Barrowclough. He will also always make sure to assert his dominance where ever he goes.
• Pet the Dog:
  • Despite claiming to hate all inmates, Mackay is shown to be softer on more well behaved inmates. He for instance was encouraging toward Kegan even making him a trusty and giving him the job of serving the Governors coffee, despite him murdering his wife.
  • Following Fletcher revealing the existence of an escape tunnel to him and defusing a very tense situation between the inmates and the guards, Mackay gave Fletcher a bottle of Scottish Whiskey as a Christmas present.
• Properly Paranoid: His suspicions about the inmates are so extreme he can’t watch a man tie his shoes without suspecting he’s hiding something in his sock. However when it comes to Fletcher he’s nearly always right.
• Violent Glaswegian: Downplayed, Mackay is never violent with the inmates, but he still has a very aggressive personality and is a Scotsman.

For Barrowclough:

• Gentle Giant: At 6ft 3, Barrowclough is the tallest prison officer, and easily towers over the rest of the cast. Never the less he is an all-around gentle and friendly man.
• Lovable Coward: Mr. Barrowclough is much more timid than Mr. Mackay, and lets his fear slip out during situations he believes to be tense. He is noticeably worried when Mackay leaves him alone to supervise the prison work party, and he spends his entire encounter with the unstable Reg Erwin trembling. However he is such a nice and friendly guy it’s hard to dislike him.
• Nice Guy: Mr. Barrowclough is by any standard a cheerful, friendly and kind hearted man. He even sees prison as more for rehabilitation over punishment.
• Reasonable Authority Figure: Barrowclough is a fair and reasonable man, he even tells a new Prison guard not to ask what a new inmate is in for, as that allows you to judge them as a person over what he has done.

For Geoffrey:

• Lovable Coward: Really the Governor has no stomach for anything remotely dangerous, but he’s still a fair and reasonable person.
• Nice Guy: Is a cheerful and friendly man, he and Fletcher even strike something of a friendship. He even admits to taking pleasure out of finding the inmates jobs he believes they will enjoy.
• Pointy-Haired Boss: He means well, and tries his best, but really he’s too gentle and easily duped to be an effective governor.
• Reasonable Authority Figure: Governor Venables is always willing to give the inmates the benefit of the doubt, is a firm believer in rehabilitation and hearing both sides of the story.
• The Teetotaler: Refuses alcohol for moral reasons, as such it distresses him when the inmates manufacture illegal booze around Christmas time.

For Wainwright:

• Drill Sergeant Nasty: Even worse than Mackay, Wainwright can’t even talk to the inmates without either insulting them or barking an order.
• The Dreaded: Quickly gains this reputation wherever, because of how harsh and strict he is.
• Politically Incorrect Villain: Admits to outright hating the inmates, and considers them scum that he would keep locked up away from society forever if he had the power to.
• Sadist: He really takes too much pleasure out of bullying and mistreating the inmates. He took noticeable satisfaction out of intentionally stamping on Fletcher's fingers.
• Tyrant Takes the Helm: Upon arriving he makes everyone’s life quite a bit harder, even demoting Mr. Barrowclough to a miserable job on the farms. Unlike Mackay who understands the importance of never pushing the inmates too far (and vice versa) Wainwright has no limitations and delights in their suffering.

Any errors?

edited 30th Jul '16 7:03:52 PM by MGD107

Welcome kennydarmawan13.

• The Scrappy:
  • Miley Cyrus rivals Justin Bieber in terms of popularity. Most of the complaints involving her are her being the opponent for Joan of Arc and her having an too overly negative portrayal.

Some of these corrections are very pedantic. But if you want to prove ability, might as well shoot for perfect.

I have a trope for teh Cognizant Limbs page, under non-video game examples.

Tabletop games

• Akash'Bhuta of Sentinels Of The Multiverse has her deck filled with primordial limbs, which range from stone Giant Hands of Doom to bramble snares. Each limb card has it's own HP, and in a twist of this trope, destroying the limbs causes Akash'Bhuta to damage herself.

edited 31st Jul '16 2:51:39 PM by Kingofsouls

I am a figment of your imagination

@MDG107 Well, I am going to do the first third today.

For fletcher:

• Anti-Hero: ... However, ...
• Jerk with a Heart of Gold: ... However, ... about the fact that he ...
• Lovable Rogue: ... However, ... that there their imprisonment ...
• Manipulative Bastard: ... master at manipulation, adapting ... things he shouldn't, such as letting him run off to town while out on a workday on a supposed mercy mission (when he instead sneaks off to the pub) , while instead sneaking off to a pub, or getting him extra blankets for his cell. With the Governor, he uses charm, and by carefully paying pays attention to every piece of information he finds out about him. Such as finding He finds him ... convincingly lies, knowing most of them are too stupid to realize till it’s too late. For example, he ...

For Ives:

• Butt Monkey: Ives often suffers from this, such as for example getting badly stung by a rare insect while out on a working party, and he almost always brings it on himself.
• The Friend Nobody Likes: Justified , . None of the inmates like Ives, but they have to put up with him as they are all locked up together.
• Jerkass: Ives is a lazy, cowardly, snivelling cheat and snitch; and as such, he is despised by most of the prison...

For McLaren:

• Hair-Trigger Temper: ... in his first appearance, where he ...
• Freudian Excuse: ...quickly ; . However, his ...

For Harry Grout:

• Evil Is Bigger: While not huge, at six foot feet he ...
• Faux Affably Evil: ... However, ...
• Knight of Cerebus: ...makes an appearance, the ...

edited 31st Jul '16 7:25:06 PM by war877

Knowledge of the Chinese Language would be an asset in helping me with this, and having Chinese as the first language would be particularly helpful.

I have came across several cases in Spell My Name With An S that involves the inconsistency of plotting Japanese kana names into Chinese, owing to several idiosyncrasies in the languages: having two pronunciation systems on the Japanese side, and the absolute reluctance to transliterate name within the Sinosphere on the Chinese side. My latest attempt in writing this for this wiki's readers (in Manga.New Game) looks Wall of Text, however:

• Spell My Name With An S: Hifumi, in the Chinese language. This is due to all the first names in this series, outside of Aoba, are purely kana. Because Chinese won't transliterate Sinospheric names unless they have to, this name de-compilation would always cause ambiguity. In Hifumi's case, however, the Taiwanese publisher decompiled her named through through on-yomi as (in Pinyin) Rifumei, while in 2016 Tokuno's Word of God states the intention was the numerals one-two-three through Goroawase Number, which would make it Yiersan in Mandarin.

Can anyone think of a way to write it more succinctly?

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I think you will have more luck with that question on the languages are weird thread.

If that doesn't work, hit up the random questions thread in writer's block.

I have an tropes for the Captain Cosmic section of the Characters.Sentinels Of The Multiverse page.

• Domino Mask: Wears a red one.
• Mook Maker: Captain Cosmic focuses on playing swarms of constructs to support and protect his fellow heroes.
• No-Sell
  • Knight Crest makes Captain Cosmic and his constructs immune to energy damage.
  • Like Unity's mechanical golems, Captain Cosmic's constructs are not equipment or ongoing cards, so Captain Cosmic can avoid many dangerous effects that destroy equipment or ongoings such as Citizen Dawn's Devastating Aurora.

edited 31st Jul '16 10:25:37 PM by Kingofsouls

I am a figment of your imagination

Adding some tropes for Kamen Rider Ghost Movie Exclusive Characters.

Kamen Rider Ghost × Drive: Super Movie War Genesis

Kamen Rider Ghost: The 100 Eyecons and Ghost's Fateful Moment