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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 16th 2023 at 5:37:57 PM
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I was just wondering how long I should stick to posting here until I go back to the Suspension thread to plead my case?
Is it just a personal decision that I'm ready or is there a specific number of well-written examples I need to make to qualify?
@ {Jujutsu Kaisen: Geto's Group}
For Suguru Geto (Major Spoilers):
- Personality Powers: Befitting a Manipulative Bastard who's spent centuries tricking people into horribly one-sided deals, Kenjaku's Innate Technique allows him to commit Grand Theft Me and take someone's powers, identity and memories for his own use.
- He later consumes Mahito and gains the ability to to distort and manipulate the human body, reflecting his desire to "optimise" humanity.
Edited by TheWalkingDude on Dec 3rd 2021 at 1:15:43 PM
If I'm doing something wrong, please PM me as your first response. I'm not here to screw up anyone's hard work.
Probably the wrong trope, and I can't go to Ask the Tropers since my suspension extends there as well, but...
- Gingerbread House: The end of 4.5 has Baby plan to eat the Crystal Tower since it looks like rock candy.
Here's one I want to add, for the holiday season...
- Surprisingly Realistic Outcome: Arthur and Jane Read choose to do their holiday shopping two days before Christmas. Additionally, D.W. mails her wish list to Santa on that morning. Understandably, the mall is very crowded, and the Tina the Talking Tabbies and Veginators are all sold out. (Not that the latter matters to David Read, though...)
Kaiju Fanatic
Hello, I would like someone to add Epithet Switched to the Epithet Erased Fanfic page because I am unable to at the moment due to revoked access. Also, note that it has its page of tv tropes when adding and thus must be linked to it.
Hi fellas. It's me again. I wanted to ask you if you can give me again the link that directs me to the mods to ask them if I can regain editing rights again. There's an upcoming film I would really want to contribute to its main page here.
By the way, here's another try.
A Headscratcher for the new Diary of a Wimpy Kid film:
- After Greg, Rowley and Manny escape from the three teenagers and roll down to Greg's lawn, Manny wakes up and tells Susan that Greg took him and Rowley to the Serpent Road just like she had forbidden him. How did Manny realize this? He was asleep when Greg and Rowley took that road as a shortcut.
Edited by ElJuaco on Dec 3rd 2021 at 7:22:19 AM
- Cool Teacher: Mr. Willerstein helps encourage Lewis to enter the contest in the first place and is happy for him when he succeeds.
- Everybody Calls Him "Barkeep": Coach is a gym coach who's real name is never revealed
- Eye-Obscuring Hat: Coach's baseball cap covers his eyes.
- Gym Class Hell: Coach orders one boy who's invention he doesn't like to run twenty laps around the gym.
- Misplaced Kindergarten Teacher: Coach isn't very qualified to be judging a science fair instead of teaching gym, something Willerstein lampshades.
- Reasonable Authority Figure: They give Lewis a second chance to show of his memory scanner after it initially malfunctions and plunges the fair into chaos.
- Red Oni, Blue Oni: Coach is stern, muscular, and irritable while Willerstein is polite, scrawny, and timid.
- Smart People Wear Glasses: Willerstein is a bespectacled science teacher.
- Smarter Than They Look: Coach looks and acts like a stern Dumb Jock, but does make a couple of intelligent observations and questions. He himself lampshades this after asking why Lewis wants to access his memories of a particular day.
Coach: You didn't think I was paying attention, did you?
- Felony Misdemeanor: President Orion, the "tubby tyrant," makes it a capital offense to call him fat.
- You Remind Me of X: Sociopathic Hate Sink Bronze tells Augustus that he reminds Augustus of himself. Augustus's reaction is a sign of how much much Character Development "The Cavalier Career" has undergone since his victory.
Only a few years ago Augustus would have beamed in pride to hear such a thing from Bronze. But not anymore. Suddenly the idea of being like Bronze was legitimately terrifying.
- District 7's first two victors, Fir and Pliny, are both Doomed by Canon and don't even appear in every District 7-centered chapter, but both are extremely well-loved characters. Pliny's popularity comes from her humorous Heavy Sleeper traits, friendship with Duke from District 12, and Wins by Doing Absolutely Nothing victory. Fir's Pungeon Master dialogue and interesting interactions with her Parental Substitute and Jack (who she mentors to victory) make her pretty popular.
- District 5's first two victors, Shunt and Isobel, are both dead by the 40th Hunger Games but are both pretty highly-rated victors. Isobel's popularity comes from her unnamed combat skills, how she's the original leader of the Second Rebellion, and her attempt to assassinate Snow. Shunt (an aspiring fantasy author) charms a lot of people by being a Gadgeteer Genius with good night vision who imagines his games as a fantasy story where he's the main character as a coping mechanism and worries about whether he's the good guy.
- District 4's last victor, Ron, only appears in two chapters, but might be their best-liked victor due to the tragic backstory behind his volunteering and the memorable scene where he uses an unpopular collaborator as a Human Shield.
- Mercy's Friend to All Children personality and how she takes it into the arena with her make her a lot more popular than the average victor to only appear in two chapters (and in one, she only has a cameo appearance).
The story has a decent amount of Satire and Black Comedy, although it's just as likely to emphasize the gruesomeness and tragedy of the Hunger Games.
- General Decker blazes away at the Martians, Guns Akimbo style, even after being shrunk to the size of a mouse. He's unsuccessful, but it's still pretty cool.
@ Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull
- The two Bit Part Bad Guys in the opening scene who get into a drag race with some teenagers (and the teenagers themselves, for some) make the scene pretty entertaining for most fans, whether they like the movie as a whole or not.
Edited by Melinda on Dec 4th 2021 at 2:49:49 AM
Hotel Mario: Trivia
- Fan Nickname: French Youtube Poop fans sometime refer to CD-i Bowser as "Boswor" because of how weirdly his name is pronounced in the game's French dub.
Madness Combat
- Arson, Murder, and Jaywalking: The protagonists' "wanted" posters list crimes such as arson, murder or kidnapping, along with petty things such as public urination, smoking or being ugly.
- Bizarre Alien Reproduction: The people in Madness Combat cannot reproduce biologically. The only way is via mass cloning machines, which brings the question on how they started existing in the first place.
- Hypocritical Humor: The AAHW has "wanted" posters for the protagonists for various crimes, despite the AAHW itself being a criminal organisation.
- Immediate Sequel:
- Starting from the sixth episode, almost every episode starts right when the previous one ends. Aggregation is a little exception since it starts about a minute before the end of the previous episode, Inundation.
- There isn't any time skip between any episode of the Deimos Adventure mini-series.
- One-Gender Race: There is no women among Madness Combat characters. And while characters often use masculine pronoun (though singular "they" is sometime used), have masculine names and can have masculing attributes like beards, Word of God says that they don't really qualify as "men" either. They are their own things.
Animator VS Animation: character (Purple)
- Staff of Authority: As a king, he wields a staff made of wood and stone to show his authority in the village he rules.
Edited by jOSEFdelaville on Dec 4th 2021 at 10:17:42 AM
From page 648 @Orror SANESS
Changed verbs to present tense as per How to Write an Example - Write in Historical Present Tense.
As a general rule, you don't capitalize the word "the" in front of a name unless the "the" is part of the name. I tried to correct all of these that I could find, but may have missed some.
You are massively overcapitalizing words. You should only capitalize a word if it's the first word in a sentence or it's a proper noun.
The Siege of Bermanhaven is this...Committee is put...Bermanhaven ends up getting nuked.
In World War 1, Angelos is the vile villain as he cruelly takes tons...it is easily destroyed...
...Bose and Chandra Gupta (Gandhi) take over India and exile the Indian ...a fascist dictatorship.
...unlike the king <- no comma or Bose.
people overthrow Bose...Pakasthana, <- comma and are reunited...
In Part 3, the Soviet...and workers' revolution around...the workers' revolution. When...they become more...for the workers' <- apostrophe revolution...
The Reich's interpretation of its own goal is the preservation...
...war on the Reich, <- comma because...wins, <- comma then...Empire, <- comma would...Part 2, if Martin...heretics win, Berlin will be...universe will be...as few victories...(the Reich) will Heel...4, the Reich...world will fall...then he will become...universe will be...5, if the Soviets...Sentinel must not win, <- comma or...Sentinel is defeated, <- comma the Establishment...nothing will change...Establishment is overthrown...
...both quality and quantity...gameplay <- no comma it's played straight, <- comma as...opponents have higher...than them, but ...soldiers. The Reich...battles, <- comma but...In Part 4, for the most part The Axis <- no comma chooses quality (although they use a mix of quality...influences from Parts...(only the ...part choose quantity (although...Comintern choose, for...part, quantity (though the Soviets...Powers win World...
Zolton has more...technology (the latest...of the Gulf War...Mexico has the...of the people of Texas....forces get obliterated...also has higher...army <- no comma and...if your forces have little...Mexico recovers for a little <- no comma and even annexes Free...led coalition.
In Part 2, the Reich usually...
...put a satellite which they call Sputnik into space.
^ I had to change the word order because you were saying that the Soviets called space "Sputnik".
Thierry Baudet made a political party called the Christian...and, <- comma after...
The people of the Reich desire a...and for zero greenhouse...world, <- comma no...why the Holy...nation in the world.
...happens, <- comma there were no real plans for ...dying <- no comma or becoming undercover...
...arc begins, Angela Merkel helps Anders in his quest to expose and defeat...arc ends, the Roman political establishment becomes the main villain <- no comma and their representative is Angela Merkel.
Fascist Yadvi were this as well, <- comma as...
...Pallauism, the leader...Zolton, <- comma made...from fascism to...as the Fascist...
The people lose faith in absolute monarchy in Mexico, <- comma so they switch to fascism. They lose faith in that system so they switch to Equalism. After a coup, Mexico became Pallauist. After a regime change spearheaded by the resident hegemonic empire Rome, Mexico becomes a meritocratic monarchy.
Fascist, but Inefficient: When it got rid of its Jaguar Warriors, Mexico...go to Equalism.
In Part 5, once the Cuban dictator is assassinated, no one wants to...
...a military dictatorship...a fascist one...
Mexico turning to meritocracy in Part 5. China reverting to democracy in Part 5.
He just uses his instincts, and it leads to him...
...first one to do this. <- period When his time was almost up, <- comma''' he...
^ This was a run-on sentence connected together by a
comma splice.
Fredrich Von Arbon was this, <- comma as... He gives up, <- comma unlike Malcom.
Wilhelm Karl does so killing Otto. He ends up getting killed by Elias.
Slept Through the Apocalypse: Heinrich does so, sleeping while Elias nukes the world.
Civilization Destroyer: Elias seems to be that way to Eimerican civilization. The Worm was this to ancient humanity.
Late to the Tragedy: Heinrich is this to a greater extent.
^ (1-6): All six of these are Zero Context Examples because they say that the example fits the trope but don't say how it does so.
...the throne, <- comma when...Hohenzollern <- no comma and garden peacefully.
Abusive Precursors: The Worm Cult is this to the galaxy. The Worm has been screwing over everyone ever since who knows how long.
Jerusalem nuking everyone after Han mocks Elias's masculinity.
Tarascan and Tlapanec are this...from the Aztecs...especially, <- comma as...though the Aztecs...ago <- no comma and...
The Roman Reich in Part 5 is this...
...guy, <- comma thinks...verses from the Bible, <- comma with...
...being <- no comma and...Willhelma thinks that...(mostly French)...(mostly Arabs) are Worm...and genocides most...population due to that. She grew out of it after...
Olga Kirova is an ambassador of Russia in the UN...kill Super Soldiers and...
Neither the Roosevelts nor Winston Churchill exist in this universe. This is possibly because of the butterfly effect...world, <- comma but...had Super Soldiers and......world, <- comma but was...
From page 648 @Bullman
There are a surprising number of fanfics...very popular ships and so...
.. shipping Red and Pink Rangers.
Edited by Arivne on Dec 4th 2021 at 3:15:45 AM
I was just wondering how long I should stick to posting here until I go back to the Suspension thread to plead my case?
Is it just a personal decision that I'm ready or is there a specific number of well-written examples I need to make to qualify?
^ When you can repeatedly post examples and no English errors are found in them.
- Personality Powers: Befitting a Manipulative Bastard who's spent centuries tricking people into horribly one-sided deals, Kenjaku's Innate Technique allows him to commit Grand Theft Me and take someone's powers, identity and memories for his own use.
- He later consumes Mahito and gains the ability to to distort and manipulate the human body, reflecting his desire to "optimise" humanity.
^ This violates Example Indentation in Trope Lists because you can't have only one example at the second level of indentation (2 asterisks). The first example should be moved down to the second level along with the other one, like this:
- Personality Powers: Kenjaku
- Befitting a Manipulative Bastard who's spent centuries tricking people into horribly one-sided deals, his Innate Technique allows him to commit Grand Theft Me and take someone's powers, identity and memories for his own use.
- He later consumes Mahito and gains the ability to to distort and manipulate the human body, reflecting his desire to "optimise" humanity.
Edited by Arivne on Dec 4th 2021 at 3:25:06 AM
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@kawaiineko333
The end of 4.5 has Baby plan to eat the Crystal Tower, <- comma since it looks like rock candy.
Tabbies and Veginators are all sold out <- no period (not that the latter matters to David Read, though...). <- period
Edited by Arivne on Dec 4th 2021 at 3:28:53 AM
@ElJuaco
Hi fellas. It's me again. I wanted to ask you if you can give me again the link that directs me to the mods to ask them if I can regain editing rights again. There's an upcoming film I would really want to contribute to its main page here.
^ The thread is Edit banned/Suspended - would like to edit again.
...just as she had forbidden him to. How did Manny realize this? After all, he was asleep when Greg and Rowley took that road as a shortcut.
Edited by Arivne on Dec 5th 2021 at 8:30:04 AM
@Melinda
Augustus's reaction is a sign of how much Character Development "The Cavalier Career" has...
...good night vision who he imagines his games as a fantasy story...
Mercy's Friend to All Children personality <- no comma and...her <- no comma make...
...even after being shrunk to the size of a mouse.
^ By writing "the" mouse, you're saying that there's an actual mouse involved.
Edited by Arivne on Dec 4th 2021 at 3:41:31 AM
@jOSEFdelaville
...which raises the question of how they came into existence in the first place.
Starting with the... "Aggregation" is a minor exception...episode, "Inundation".
^ Put episode titles in quotes as per How to Write an Example - Italicize "Long" Work Names.
There are no...characters. And While characters...masculine pronouns (though the singular...have masculine attributes...
Edited by Arivne on Dec 4th 2021 at 3:48:10 AM
"The Juice is Loose."
Thanks Arivne
- Sad Clown: In Nerve, one of the victims of Malicious Slander is always joking "like Pagliacci" in a failed attempt to act unperturbed.
- Lucky and her friends invite Trevor to take a break from the grunt work at the restaurant and hang out on the mountain top with them.
- During the Time Skip, Winston (who started out as just a blue collar Sixth Ranger out for a modest paycheck) has becomes a happy CEO and Family Man. He looks back on his humble origins fondly, and pays the rent for Ray's bookstore while expressing belief that his old friend will turn it into a success someday.
- Bloodless Carnage: When Shandor gets bisected, there's no blood or gore to speak of.
- Gate Guardian: The final act reveals that Egon spent the ten years before his death using proton packs to force back hordes of evil spirits whenever they try to get through a dimensional gateway in Shandor's mine. Even after his death, he leaves behind several automated proton packs that continue to render the gateway impassable.
- I Own This Town: Ivo Shandor founded Sumerville a hundred years before the events of the movie and owned almost every store in town, as well as the local mine. Unknown to his workers, he was less interested in mining minerals than he was in hollowing out the mountain to turn it into a temple for a God of Evil.
- Lingerie Scene: Lucky's bra is seen for a second as she changes into the Ghostbuster coveralls. Trevor certainly isn't complaining.
- Police Are Useless: Repeatedly zigzagged. The sheriff and his men are somewhat justified in arresting the kids after they accidentally destroy half of Main Street, but they also mock Phoebe's claims that the kids were chasing a ghost even though said ghost was flying around in plain sight. Later, they leave the jail (which has lots of confiscated weapons inside) completely unguarded, but this is likely because they are trying to protect the town from rampaging ghosts.
- When Callie chews out her son for letting Phoebe get into trouble, Mr. Grooberson (who is standing right in front of Trevor and is also secretly involved in encouraging her ghost-busting ambitions) initially thinks Callie is talking to him.
- Forgotten Fallen Friend:
- Poor Fergus is never mentioned again after it's revealed that he was tortured to death.
- On the villain's side, the king seems to forget about the assassination of his three closest advisors pretty quickly.
- Hypocritical Heartwarming: Gwendolyn repeatedly threatens her handmaiden Griselda. However, when her father threatens Griselda, Gwendolyn says that she'll throw herself out the window if he tries it.
- I Just Want to Be Badass: Hawkins' first scene establishes that he desperately wants to be a soldier in the Black Fox's group of freedom fighters, but he gets relegated to baby-sitting the infant heir to the throne.
- Karma Houdini: Roderick, an abusive father and Dirty Old Man who ordered a Ruling Family Massacre, doesn't seem to suffer any worse punishment than the loss of his crown.
- Screw the War, We're Partying: Hawkins dresses up as the Black Fox and performs a musical number during the middle of the rebellion against Roderick to entertain the Black Fox's soldiers. They enjoy the show, although the Black Fox himself doesn't.
- Vine Swing: Jean's first scene has her swing into the Black Fox's camp on a vine.
- Wanted a Son Instead: Jean admits that her father, who raised her to be a Tomboy, probably wished she'd been a boy.
- Awesome Music: "Outfox the Fox and "The Maladjusted Jester" are both fun, catchy, and impressive songs.
- They Wasted a Perfectly Good Plot: Fergus witnesses Griselda hypnotizing Hawkins, and Jean interrupts him the one time he tries to tell her. It seems as if this is about to set up a Running Gag and perhaps some Not What It Looks Like moments as the hypnotized Hawkins courts Gwendolyn. However, Fergus never tries to tell Jean again, and Jean never thinks that Hawkins is cheating on her.
- The scene where Hawkins and Jean pose as a half-deaf old man and his mute granddaughter to sneak past a patrol. They do a good job of both fooling and frustrating the Mook Lieutenant questioning them. At one point, they make him repeat himself several times, until finally he's screaming at them.
Captain of the Guard: Ask the girl if she's seen a group in the forest.Hawkins: Huh? What's that? What?Captain of the Guard: Ask the girl if she's seen a group in the forest.Hawkins: What do you... what?Captain of the Guard: ASK THE GIRL IF SHE'S SEEN A GROUP IN THE FOREST!Hawkins: There's no need to holler, sir, for I hear very well, indeed.
- The "Outfox the Fox" music number has some good gags in it, but the best of them is the Bait-and-Switch moment at the end where it turns out that Hawkins isn't the Black Fox, but is merely a low-ranking follower who borrowed the Black Fox's costume behind his back.
- The rigged knighthood trials, all the way through. When Hawkins is required to climb a stone wall in full armor, the king's goons throw him over the wall. When he's required to fight a wild boar, they put him in a pit with a puny piglet.
@ Encanto
- Unreliable Expositor: When they describe Pepa's wedding, they make Bruno out to be a lot more sinister than he really is.
- Unreliable Expositor: Camillo remembers Bruno as being taller and more imposing than he actually is. To be fair, he was a little kid when Bruno left, so Bruno may have really seemed that big to him.
Edited by Melinda on Dec 5th 2021 at 7:57:20 AM
@Arivne, that seems to make more sense...
- Surprisingly Realistic Outcome: Arthur and Jane Read choose to do their holiday shopping two days before Christmas. Additionally, D.W. mails her wish list to Santa on that morning. Understandably, the mall is very crowded, and the Tina the Talking Tabbies and Veginators are all sold out (not that the latter matters to David Read, though...).
Rhythm Heroine
Primary-Color Champion Video Games:
- Wrestle Angels: Downplayed. Mighty Yukiko (the main protagonist from the first installment and V1) has pink hair and a light blue wrestling costume. In Survivor and later installments, Yukiko wears a yellow short jacket as part of her wrestling costume set.
For YMMV.Wrestle Angels:
- Memetic Mutation: 来島さんじゃ勝ってない.Explanation
Edited by Minorica on Dec 11th 2021 at 3:59:09 AM
"No matter how bad the heroes can get or how bad the situation is, we're sure we can overcome it and get our happy endings..."
Hi fellas. While I wait for a response from the mods, let's try again.
Two tropes for Diary of a Wimpy Kid:
- Adaptational Nice Guy: Manny, at least a bit. While he still annoys Greg and taunts him that he can't be grounded due to being three years old, he shares one of his chocolates with Greg while trick-or-treating and lets Greg and Rowley use him to get more candy.
- Unintentionally Unsympathetic: Rowley comes off as this when he joins the school newspaper and publishes the Zoo-Wee Mama! comic strips despite them being originally Greg's idea, unfairly earning him fame and popularity. While one can argue that Greg wasn't a good friend to him because he broke Rowley's arm, Greg was right to call him out for copying his ideas instead of coming up with something original like he had suggested him. In the original book, Zoo-Wee Mama! was an idea of both Greg and Rowley, so at least Rowley had some ownership of the idea in that version.
Edited by ElJuaco on Dec 4th 2021 at 9:29:51 AM
"Bang!" Flag Gun: In Visage, there is a room that leads to a shotgun on display. The player picks it up with rising heavy metal music like you're finally able to fight back... only for it to reveal a BANG flag, making the player throw it down in disgust.
- Makeout Kids: Callum and Rayla kiss on screen more times then any other couple in the entire show.
Thanks Arvine!
Freestate Amsterdam: This is the place where Thierry Baudet came from. Amsterdam defects to the Maximists in 1848.
Faction Calculus: In Part 2, there are 5 types of nations: Cannons (Triple Alliance, Tran, Yuan, and The Heretics (They are there for having units that hit hard but are not as strong as most of the other units in game!) ), Powerhouses (Scandinavia, Persia, and Lithuania (This is for being Warrior types and for not being in as much battles as Rome has.) ), The Horde (Timurids, Manchu, Yadvi (For being actual hordes) ), Subversive (Ming, Jin, and Kanata (While they are strong in their own right, they usually use diplomacy to gain their way than fight. That doesn’t mean you should underestimate them under any circumstance.) ), and Balanced (the Reich (Rome), Bharat (India), Ethiopia (Abyssinia), Russia, and Mali (They are in this affinity as they are equal in almost every trait, and they’re trying to keep the balance and the status quo as well.) ).
Edited by OrrorSANESS on Dec 5th 2021 at 9:09:15 AM
@Melinda
...take a break from the grunt work at the restaurant and hang out on the mountain top with them.
...to force back hordes of evil spirits back whenever...he leaves' behind...
When Callie chews out her son for letting Phoebe get into trouble...
On the villain's side, the king seems...closest advisors pretty quickly.
...but he gets relegated to baby-sitting the infant heir to the throne.
...who raised her to be a Tomboy, probably wished she'd been a boy.
...are both fun, catchy <- no comma and impressive songs.
...and Jean interrupts him the one time he tries to tell her.
The "Outfox the Fox" <- no comma music number...
Trying this again…
Honest Trailers 2021 Episodes
@Star Wars: Visions