The Grand Unified Appearance Trope Clean-up:

Changed the notes.

I cleared out the Hazel Eyes redirects.

I think Woman In White needs a look at because most of the examples I've seen for this trope are examples where it just lists a female character and says that the character wears white but fails to mention anything else.

Looking at the trope page doesn't really help as it gives a very broad list of meanings that could be read into a character wearing white (e.g. symbolising that character is mad or eccentric, symbolising that a character is evil, symbolising that a character is dead/undead, symbolising purity, symbolising excessive neatness, symbolising women's rights), rather than anyone specific meaning.

Wick Check:

• Characters.Aladdin And The King Of Thieves: Commented out Zero Context Example.
• Radar.Anime And Manga: Potholed to "a white dress".
• Characters.Asuka 120 Percent: Mentions that a character wears white, but doesn't mention anything else.
• DarthWiki.Beyblade C Square: Zero Context Example.
• Characters.Boardwalk Empire Darmody Family And Associates: Mentions that a character wears a white dress in a flashback after they've died.
• Literature.Burying The Shadow: Zero Context Example.
• Baccano.Characters Who Appeared In The Anime:
  • Mentions that a character is wearing white to match her fiance's suit.
  • Mentions that a character is wearing a white dress given to her by a possible love interest.
• Characters.The Camp Half Blood Series Minor Gods: Mentions that a character wears a white silk gown, but doesn't mention anything else.
• Characters.Coffin Princess Chaika:
  • Mentions that a character wears white clothing and has a mystery with her missing memories.
  • Mentions that a character starts wearing white after The Reveal.
• Characters.Daily Life With Monster Girl Main Characters: Mentions that a character appears wearing white clothing as opposed to their regular outfit whilst in the afterlife.
• Characters.Destructive Harmonics: Zero Context Example.
• WMG.Doctor Who Series 6: Used as a part of a sentence.
• Characters.Drowtales Val Kyorl Solenurn:
  • Mention that "Even among the other Kyorl, who all wear white to some degree", a character is completely dressed in white and has paler than normal skin.
  • Zero Context Example.
  • Mentions that a character wears white, but doesn't mention anything else.
• Literature.Eva Luna: Zero Context Example.
• Franchise.Fatal Frame:
  • Mentions that most of the female ghosts wear white.
  • Mentions that two character wear white kimonos, but doesn't mention anything else. A third character is mentioned to have worn a white kimono as part of a costume.
  • Mentions that a character was originally dressed in white, but doesn't mention anything else.
• Characters.Fire Emblem Elibe Sword Of Seals: Commented out Zero Context Example.
• Characters.Fushigiboshi No Futagohime: Mentions that a character is mysterious and ghostly and dresses in white.
• Gold and White Are Divine: Used as part of the trope description: "Compare: Woman In White".
• YMMV.Gunnerkrigg Court: Potholed to "and wears a long white dress/tunic".
• Film.Himala: Zero Context Example.
• Ironic Nursery Tune: Potholed to "eponymous".
• Characters.Kaamelott: Zero Context Example.
• Characters.Kill La Kill Kiryuin Conglomerate:
  • Mentions that a character owns hundreds all-pristine white outfits "and fits perfectly in the sinister connotations of the trope".
  • Zero Context Example.
  • Mentions that a character wears white clothes all the time and is the Big Bad's direct subordinate.
• Characters.League Of Legends A To C: Potholed to "Freljord Ashe".
• Little Dead Riding Hood: Potholed to "Dressing all in white".
• WMG.Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha Open Two: Sinkholed to Man In White.
• Characters.Metal Fight Beyblade: Zero Context Example.
• Series.Moonlight: Zero Context Example.
• No OSHA Compliance: Potholed to "Good".
• Characters.Over Lord 2012 The Great Tomb Of Nazarick:
  • Potholed to "her casual attire".
  • Used as part of a sentence.
  • Mentions that a character is "one of the highest-ranked commanders in Nazarick" and dresses in white, the character’s title is "Merciful Pure White Devil" and her name means white.
• Characters.Pokemon Black And White Anime: Commented out Zero Context Example.
• VideoGame.Puppetshow: Mentions that the main character encounters a strange human-sized puppet dressed entirely in white.
• Characters.Requiem Vampire Knight: Potholed to "white".
• VideoGame.Run Saber: Zero Context Example.
• Characters.Scott Pilgrim Vs The World: Zero Context Example.
• Characters.Soul Eater Troubled Souls Novus Partus: Mentions that a character wears silver and white during a specific event.
• Recap.Star Trek Voyager S 4 E 17 The Killing Game: Zero Context Example.
• Recap.Supernatural S 01 E 01 Pilot:
  • Potholed twice to "a white nightgown".
  • Used as part of a sentence.
  • Mentions that a character's story is in the tradition of La Llorona and many other women in white who haunt rivers and lakes. And that the episode starts the shows' tradition of white dresses meaning a character is evil, dead or both.
• Characters.Tales Of Destiny 2: Zero Context Example.
• Characters.The Gray Garden: Mentions that a character wears white and gray, and this symbolizes that the character is the Big Good and friendly.
• Literature.The Lion The Witch And The Wardrobe: Zero Context Example.
• Characters.The Red Tent: Zero Context Example.
• Film.The Three Musketeers 1973: Mentions that if a specific character isn’t wearing white, then she's wearing silver, pale pink or grey.
• Characters.Turgor: 2 Zero Context Examples.
• Characters.V For Vendetta Comic: Mentions that a character dresses in white to play up her good public face.
• Characters.We Are Our Avatars Escapist: Mentions that a character wears white, but doesn’t mention anything else.
• Characters.Wrestle Angels 2: 2 Zero Context Examples.
• Anime.Yu Gi Oh GX: Zero Context Example.

I could see a rename to something a bit more specific like Mysterious Woman In White or something.

edited 4th Feb '17 8:18:23 PM by Memers

Maybe use wHite as a indicator or absent of identity or mystery.

something like Mysterious Woman In White or Etheral Woman In White would work.

I third Mysterious Woman In White. And also suggest moving the uses relying on its other symbolism to the relevant tropes if any.

edited 5th Feb '17 5:55:17 AM by MorningStar1337

There's a White Means innocent Trope proposal. Don't know if it would help with Woman In White.

edited 5th Feb '17 9:44:18 AM by WhirlRX

Woman In White isn't necessarily Innocent. She's otherworldly. Like she may be so innocent that she becomes otherworldly like Incorruptible Pure Pureness or Too Good for This Sinful Earth, but she could also be a Creepy Child, a Dead All Along ghost, mentally on a different wavelength, magical or generally mysterious, or something of an emotionless blank.

It's that she's in all white, and she's really weird in some respect. White because of ambiguity or blankness, which can overlap with pureness.

edited 5th Feb '17 10:09:21 AM by acrobox

Maybe even Otherworldly Woman In White / Weird Woman In White / Wayward Woman In White for more alliteration?

edited 5th Feb '17 10:08:34 AM by acrobox

I'd go with Otherworldly Woman In White.

I say we avoid "Adjective Woman in White" and start from scratch because adding a single word is not going to change troper behavior. As long as the trope names implies "the character is a woman and wears clothes of a certain color" then that is what is going to be in their mind when they add a wick. The multiple of meaning feeds into this problem. According to this very thread, white can mean "creepy" or "innocent" or "dead" or "otherworldy". Thus, "woman wearing white" is the only commonality. Third, how much white clothing is necessary to qualify? A full outfit or just a headband?

Full outfit. It has to cover your entire body or Atleast half.

White has too many meanings for a single trope to work. You've got

• "Virginal white": Either a girl just coming of age wears white, or an older woman, who would be expected to be sexually active (or to have been) wearing white as a signal of their non-sexual nature/purity. also related:
  • Innocent White: Small children, both male and female.
• "Supernatural white": (although even that is at least two) for angelic beings and for ghosts.
• "White In Charge": powerful executives or other people in command/charge (related to the Southern Gentleman's traditional white suit)
• Eccentric White: The nuts old lady who only wears white anymore (often related to Virginal White, as well, in that the white garment is or resembles a wedding dress — Miss Havisham in Great Expectations for example)
• Sterile (or maybe Scientific) white : labcoats, old-style nurses' uniforms. lab techs,

As to "how much white", I'd say two criteria: The person has to wear predominantly or completely white (so a white dress with a blue sash works for Virginal white, but just wearing a white jacket isn't enough for White In Charge) and they have to wear it most or all of the time.

edited 6th Feb '17 2:48:04 PM by Madrugada

In that case I think the trope can be narrowed down to Virginal White with the other categories being used for (gender-neutral) tropes, but it might still be a problem if the purity or virginity isn't emphasized. (Man In White would have to be refurbished into one of the other trope categories)

edited 6th Feb '17 4:57:16 PM by MorningStar1337

Virgin in a White Dress seems to have the purity part covered.

I did a quick wick check for Man In White. Maybe 4/29 wicks were good.

• Akuma no Riddle: just costume ("He works in a white suit.")
• A Monster in Paris: "Francœur dresses to compliment Lucille's Woman In White."
• A Monster in Paris: commented out ZCE
• Animated Films: Seems good.
  • It has to do with subverting the fact that the character is actually a villain.
• Are You Alice?: His actions are "unnerving," but that's not related to his appearance.
  • "It's really unnerving to see the lengths he'll go for [spoiler person]."
• Characters/Bakemonogatari: ZCE
• Bakugan Battle Brawlers Villains: just costume
• Batman: Arkham Series – Rogues Gallery (City): just costume
• Black Panther: just costume
• Black Swords Are Better: pothole ("Vallano" who I'm guessing is a character)
• Blood Blockade Battlefront: just costume
• BUCK-TICK: just costume (describing character as Sharp-Dressed Man)
• Buffy the Vampire Slayer S1E10 "Nightmares": just costume
• Castlevania Chronicles Of Sorrow: pothole ("wears white") under Color-Coded Characters
• Characters/Catherine: ZCE
• Central Europe: just costume ("During the War of Austrian Succession.")
• Code Geass - Britannians: just costume
• Code Geass: Mao of the Deliverance: pothole ("white leather") under Hell-Bent for Leather
• Code Geass - Others: just costume ("At least when he's wearing his Impossibly Cool Clothes")
• Core Line The Champions:
  • Okay, so this is potholed as "[[ManInWhite Woman In White]]". I kind of want to immediately correct that to just Woman In White but is there any particular difference between these tropes other than being Gender Flipped? I'll leave it because I'm honestly not sure of any possible nuance crap here.
• Music/Delain: just costume ("Normally Martijn.")
• Demons Souls Enemies And Bosses: commented-out ZCE
• Descendants of Darkness: ??? ("Muraki" so a character)
• Dimension W: Questionable. ("Wears a white suit and is definitely up to no good.")
• Dodge the Bullet: Questionable. ("[character is protected from grime] perhaps part of his Man In White status")
• Duran Duran: just costume
• Film/Equilibrium: just costume
• Webcomic/Erstwhile: Questionable (Little boy in white in "The Little Shroud.")
• Feathers and Mountain Air: ZCE

edited 6th Feb '17 5:38:35 PM by WaterBlap

So with Virgin in a White Dress already existing and covering Virginal White, I see no reason where Woman In White would have be reworked into a Gender-segregated trope. I propose placing the Man/Woman In White examples into tropes named of the other categories and cutting them

• Supernatural Is White: (Yes I know its a snowclone, but its the best I think of for a name) For cases where the people inw white are angels, demons, Humanoid Abominations, etc.
• White In Charge: Where they are CE Os, leaders, or other powerful businessmen. Fat Sweathy Souther In A Whit Suit would be the subtrope
• Ascetic Dress Code (Sterile White): A related trope to Ascetic Aesthetic. Used for the Labcoats and hospital/medical garb (unless that is People Sit On Chairs, in which case the examples are cut)

What do you think?

Sidenote: we should change the title link to Woman In White

edited 6th Feb '17 7:22:39 PM by MorningStar1337

And we have Gold and White Are Divine to cover the "heavenly being" aspect of Supernatural White. And I agree that Virgin in a White Dress takes care of the same trope as what I called Virginal White. So that's two that can be taken care of simply by moving the examples to the correct trope and (for now, at least, striking those parts of the definition and adding the other tropes to the "Related/Subtropes" list.

edited 6th Feb '17 8:49:06 PM by Madrugada

Also, I really like Ascetic Dress Code for what I called Sterile White, for two reasons. The first is that "medical/science-y personnel wear white" really only shows up now in period pieces, and older works when medical people did routinely wear white and for the scienc-y types, it's just coincidence — labcoats are mostly white, and we have the Labcoat of Science trope to take care of that.

The other reason is because while it often uses white, it can just as easily be silver, grey, green or blue (usually a clear pale green or blue); it's more the stark asceticness and a suggestion of chilliness or even coldness. Garments are generally bare of decoration, jewelry is metal — usually silver or steel— but rarely brightly-colored gems; pearls, pale amethysts, or diamonds or other clear pale crystals are most likely to be used. There may be one single point of bright color.

edited 6th Feb '17 9:06:21 PM by Madrugada

But you're all ignoring the trope that Woman In White currently describes, which is a valid trope just in need of rename and cleanup.

White as Otherworldly / Weird / Distant in a way that is more commonly used with female characters rather than male.

Okay I have two questions then.

1. What is it? The only common thread I see is, "Plot Relevant Character wears white" which seems about as chairsy as the tropes that started this thread in the first place. if its supposed to be the Mystery, then I still say Mysterious Woman In White would fit (one does not have to be otherworldly to be Mysterious). Provided that Man In White has different connotations as you claim. Which brings me to question 2.
2. If the point is just that character is decked out in white, then is there any reason why this trope and Man In White should exist in separate entries? If they only share the name and color scheme then a rename is in order for both tropes.

Thank you. I picked the name because I knew that most cases of Ascetic Aesthetic seem to be based on or are hospitals and laboratories. (that and I'd rather limit the Snowclone names to 1 if possible, especially considering the Gender-conjugated ones we are currently discussing)

edited 6th Feb '17 10:38:50 PM by MorningStar1337

I personally think that Virgin in a White Dress needs a rename to like 'Pure woman in white' or something and add in Angels and other pure beings in white and such. Its a standard of beauty and Uncorruptable Pureness, a virgin is just a possible way to be 'pure'

Then make this into Mysterious, Otherworldly and Ghostly Woman In White.

Its basically the same difference between Raven Hair, Ivory Skin and Eerie Pale-Skinned Brunette.

edited 6th Feb '17 11:32:04 PM by Memers

(Keep in mind, folks, that this list of wicks needs to be disposed of as well)

I've started on that. What should I do with these wicks? Are suitable for the replacement trope? They're both from Bleach.

Ichigo * : He fits the down-to-earth and stable trustworthiness traits associated with characters of this trope. Chad * : Stable, trustworthy and down-to-earth, Chad is a leading example of this trope.