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open Troper making potentially agenda-biased edits
patriciovalencia117 has been making several potentially political agenda-based edits on pages. For example:
- On UsefulNotes.Boris Johnson removed a comparison of the man to Marine Le Pen,
- Replaced a portion of an entry about Tony Blair on OvershadowedByControversy.Real Life that previously said his popularity went down after weapons of mass destruction in Iraq were discovered not to exist with a new portion that said his popularity went down "among his left-leaning supporters," and
- Removed portions of an entry on the 2019 British election on LandslideElection.Real Life that criticized Theresa May, while adding a new portion that insinuated that candidate Jeremy Corbyn lost because of an alleged "socialist agenda."
And I'm sure there are more. Should we do something here?
Edited by themayorofsimpletonopenWhat to do with SelfDemonstrating/GLaDOS page?
Apparently a couple weeks back, a change was made to the smallcaps formatting to make it automatically line break whenever used. I have no opinion on that in particular, but it has the side effect of destroying the GLaDOS page, which used a huge amount of smallcaps formatting as part of the joke.
What's the best way to address fixing the page? It would be a massively tedious effort to fix by hand. It seems like it deserves a vote on what action to take, whether some kind of change, rewriting from scratch, or even deletion.
open It happened again.
YMMV.Wanda Vision, Spectre Agent, Designated Villain.
- Designated Villain: Director Hayward. The audience is asked to sympathize with Wanda after she enslaved and tortured a small town and is allowed to leave with only dirty looks while Hayward is arrested at the end despite only trying to stop her to save the townsfolk.
I'm going to go request a page lock now in the Locked Pages Thread. I'm done with humanity.
Edited by SatoshiBakuraopenPacific Rim Characters
Editing the Characters page is giving the red warning that the page is too long and needs to be split, in preparing to do so I saw it had been split and reconsolidated. With a new show just debuting, seems like the page will only grow. Should it be split now?
openStub page
This page is not listed correctly and has only a brief undescriptive synopsis and incomplete stub for a description.
openPage Reversions
Hello,
Where should I ask for mods to revert pages? I'm asking because I'm looking at stuff on the Ban Evader Reversion Thread, and I found a page that only has edits from a ban evader once they showed up and hasn't been edited since they left. Should I ask on the moderator thread, the BERT thread, or the edit requests thread?
openKeeping pages separate with similar titles
So I'm thinking of making page for a Fan Fiction called Wayward but there is a comic with the same name (no relation). How would I go about making sure these two don't get lumped together.
Should note that I once made a page for a Fan Fiction before called Singularity and it got thrown on to a fanfic tap for a movie of the same name. Is it possible to get those separated.
Edited by Lord-Jaricopen Crowner in need of more votes
The TRS thread for Instant Awesome Just Add Dragons has a crowner in which none of the options are in the 2:1 ratio. Right now, the thread is clocked; if there's still insufficient concensus by the 10th, the thread will be closed.
Please do not respond to this query. If you wish to talk about it, follow the link to the thread provided.
Edited by BerrentaopenEditing Issues
Yep, that title again.
Candy Cake 93 has consistent issues with indentation, context, and more. I've been sending notifiers, but it's done no good; they keep making mistakes.
- Here they added natter. They also added bad indentation here. On that same article, they turned an example into a Wall of Text.
- ZCE here, and more if you scroll down.
- Added some complaining here, or at least injected negativity into an example.
open"The Pete Best" Trivia page -- Real Life folder and music entry
While looking at the Trivia entry The Pete Best, I noticed a couple things that look problematic. Specifically:
-the Real Life folder contains not just people, but inanimate objects such as record labels, geographical places, theme parks, locomotives, and letters of the English alphabet. Not only is it hard to see justification for the entries, am thinking this doesn't even apply to non-sentient beings.
-in the Music page for this entry, there's a folder that says "Trope Namer." Rightly, it includes Pete Best himself, but it also contains an entry for Stuart Sutcliff, who was also an early member of The Beatles, but obviously isn't Pete Best himself. Am thinking this should be moved elsewhere (to the "B" folder).
Would appreciate feedback before acting on these two issues. Thanks!
openEpic Fail ZCEs
A user known as Derv0s B 2 has made a few additions to the Epic Fail subpages for Western Animation, Live-Action Films, and Live-Action TV that seem to lack proper context.
From Western Animation:
- In Transformers: Prime, there's Miko and Raf trying to lie to Optimus in "Speed Metal", which couldn't really have aroused much more suspicion.
From Live Action Films:
- Deadpool (2016): Deadpool's attempt to fight Colossus results in him breaking both hands and a foot without Colossus moving a muscle.
Deadpool: Ow! Fuck!! Your poor wife! Colossus: You really should stop.
From Live Action TV:
- The Silence's assassin River Song not only rebels, but almost destroys the universe trying to prevent the designed victim's death. And that's not to mention that Stable Time Loop thing...
- In "Under the Lake", Clara's social-interaction cue cards don't work out the way she hoped.
If you weren't familiar with these works, would these submissions properly explain how the trope is used?
openInanimate objects on Character page? Film
Characters.MCU Others has a section with inanimate objects with the infinity stones,the infinity gauntlet, the darkhold and the Lightforce.
MCU: Captain America has the shield and MCU: Thor the hammers...
Is it kosher on this site?
openMore "So It Sucks" knee jerk
- They Copied It, So It Sucks!: The immediate reaction from the less-than-pleasant side of the fanbase was that Pokemon is merely copying The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild. The irony of this entire statement is that the Pokemon fanbase has wanted an open-world, Breath of the Wild style game for quite some time.
This sounds more like a Hatedom or Vocal Minority given it admits this is what most fans wanted. A Win Back the Crowd entry was added, then removed per waiting period, arguing most of the fans were happy and did not think this. (Would Win The Crowd apply here?)
I've had two other ATT's arguing "So It Sucks" shouldn't apply to prerelease so I'll cut the entry unless I hear anything.
open BeanWiggin
You've surely seen this name around lately, given their comments on two ATT reports. This one used a troper report to complain about how YMMV.The Mandalorian was talking about the Gina Carano controversy and insisted the whole discussion page be nuked seemingly because of one comment that they claimed accused Carano of terrorism (it didn't — at worst it accused her of supporting terrorism), in the process derailing the original purpose of the ATT thread, and this comment where they accused people of "riding [Fauci's] dick" for just offhandedly saying they thought he was a good person (and that was more to clarify that cutting his Useful Notes page wasn't motivated by personal disdain or anything).
At the time I first checked them out, they had zero edits to their name. Today, somebody also DM'd me this edit they made recently, which changed an entry claiming the stereotype about gay men intentionally spreading AIDS isn't accurate to one that says that it's true. Their only other edit is also deleting something political (describing a certain show's equivalents of the mid-20th century fascist regimes) with no explanation besides "Not applicable to trope."
Usually when I find tropers with political agendas, they have some other content to their name besides this, but almost everything that this guy has done on this wiki ties into some sort of rhetoric. The fact their account seems so new also has me suspicious.
UPDATE: The edit to Fictional Counterpart was apparently approved ahead of time. My bad for not checking that further. The edit for Rainbow Lens has now been edited to be more neutral.
Edited by mightymewtronopenClosing off TLP draft and moving on to another
So I have this (Toy Transmutation) trope proposal that now I want locked/bombed/closed off because turns out Zerukin was working on a similar trope (Become a Real Toy) that they've now relinquished to me to take over. Would that be alright to do so now, do I need some sort of permission from higher ups to do it?
If this isn't the place to ask these things or if this question is unnecessary, do tell me please. This is the first time I'd be doing this kind of thing
openAre audience reactions are true or false?
I found some examples where I think audience react to the movie or tv show sounds kinda made up. So I want you guys to check if that's true. Here some examples: 1. From Intouchables.
- Americans Hate Tingle: A smashing hit in every country it was screened, with high critical praises... and a complete bomb in the United States, with generally negative reviews and racism accusations. Ironically, The Upside became a hit in States and a massive failure abroad with terrible reviews to boot.
- Hereditary: The trailers for this movie strongly implied that the movie would be about a Creepy Child, 13-year-old Charlie, who has inherited something bad and/or supernatural from her dead grandmother. This is why her death by decapitation 45 minutes into the movie resulted in audiences screaming and leaving the theater in tears.
- The Sopranos infamously ended with a simple Smash to Black mid-scene. People who worked at cable companies had to answer hours and hours of angry phone calls because they thought something was wrong with their televisions; news programs even ran segments on it afterward.
openIf a trope is nuked, can you try to launch it again?
I've been thinking of trying again at launching the trope "Blind People Wear Sunglasses". However, I don't know if there's any rule against that sort of thing or not. So I thought I'd ask.
openRemoving redlinks issue?
Troper NFSF1McLaren went into the page for The La's and removed several redlinks I had inserted into the page back several months ago. In some cases, it's okay to do, such as for the pothole I had created for the group's self-titled album. I had reverted some of these examples after ill-advisedly putting them in under circumstances like this one, but didn't catch them all.
But they also did so for a pop group name and ones I had done for three band members names and the album's producer, which I'm less sure about — especially given that they gave the edit reason as "Removed unused links." My understanding is that it's not okay to systematically strip out redlinks just because they're redlinks. Then again, I could be too fussy here on these specific examples.
Would appreciate some feedback on this. Thanks!
Edited by BoltDMC
About a few months ago, I suggested Simon Carey's review about FIFA 21 on where should it be placed in on the quotation page for It's the Same, Now It Sucks!. This was the quotation.
Later on, I found out it was moved from the former to Cash-Cow Franchise's quotation page. I also found out that this edit was made by a banned troper. Should I move it back or no?