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Trying to Avoid an EditWar for AliensInCardiff Film

A while back, I cut an example in Aliens in Cardiff (which probably needs a clean-up, but that's for another time):

• Godzilla King Of Monsters 2019 has the final battle takes place in Boston. While the city is one of the biggest city in America, but it still less notable than San Francisco where the previous Godzilla movie is mainly set at, especially as the battleground of four most renowned Kaijus in Japanese pop culture.

My reasoning was that it was silly to debate whether Boston or San Francisco is more notable than the other, and that I didn't think Boston really qualified for the trope. This was in November, 2021.

The entry was added back in April of this year, by a different user (Derv0s B 2, the OP was Radja) with no edit reason and only a slightly modified example, here it was that San Francisco and Hong Kong (cities from the previous and succeeding Godzilla movies) were "major iconic cities."

I'm not gonna cut it again without some consensus so I wanted to bring it here to see what other people think. Your thoughts?

Shin Ultraman page reworking Film

I wish to contact the people who worked on the Shin Ultraman page (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Film/ShinUltraman) because i wish there to be a bit more information and reworking. I have questions and see if i can offer a few small suggestions. I hope that we can discuss the page, as i haven't seen the movie yet, but i wish for more information. i hope you people don't mind me if i have a small bias, as i wish to have the most information on the Shin version of Alien Mefilas. Thanks if anyone involved in the page creation answers. I just wish to speak a bit about it, but the info is so scarce, i felt somewhat forced to join here to ask for said info.

Deleting Headscratchers without an Edit Reason Film

I noticed Tropers/3-orange-whips had deleted a chunk of of the Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness page and looking at this history I saw they'd deleted people's questions out of headscatchers at least here (Strange) and here (Saving Private Ryan)

Deleting other people's questions seems a bit off to me? And also no leaving a reason to say why. I did send a Edit Reason message but haven't heard back in over 24 hrs.

Wham Line on The Empire Strikes Back Film

On June 5th, Linda58 added a Wham Line entry to The Empire Strikes Back, which was removed the same day by gjjones with the edit reason "Per the Wham cleanup thread, the Wham Line example doesn’t count."

On June 26th, LtFedora readded a Wham Line entry worded differently. Not an edit war since this isn't the same editor, but still, what should be done with the example? Remove? Leave a comment with a link to the thread?

Questionable entry Film

This has been bothering me for a while. A few years ago, I found this on Tomato in the Mirror:

• In Cars 2, Mater is told that everyone sees him as a fool, and then looks at his reflection. Get it? Tow Mater in the mirror!
  Mater: Is that how you see me? Finn McMissile: That's how everyone sees you, and that's the genius of it. Nobody realizes they're being fooled because they're too busy laughing at the fool.

I just can't see how this is an example beyond the pun used. What do the rest of you think?

A review for Cuties Film

A few hours ago, Onibank made this review to the page for Cuties.

I already flagged this review, but something tells me that it's already a ROCEJ violation, not to mention extremely rude, as they call the mods "pedophiles".

I personally don't like that the movie exists, but this person's actions takes it WAY too far, even for me.

EDIT: I checked their edit history, and other than that one review, I don't see any contributions from them.

Relocation of MCU Gorr the God Butcher's character page entry Film

Shouldn't Gorr's character file be moved from the MCU: Cosmic page to the MCU: Other Supervillains page, seeing how he's the main antagonist of Thor: Love and Thunder?

Spoilers on WMG pages Film

I’m about to make a WMG page for a movie that came out and are spoilers required to be on or does there have to be a spoiler warning on the page?

Can We Recognize Critical Resonance? Film

So Critical Dissonance refers to when the critic and public perceptions of a piece of art are opposed. However, I think there should be a Sugar Wiki entry for art which both critics and the general public adore. What are other tropers' thoughts on this suggestion?

Forgot to adjust for inflation Film

In both versions of The Parent Trap the housekeeper says that there's a million reasons why the golddigger would want to date the father, "and they're all in the bank." The problem is, the first version was made in 1961 and the second version was made in 1998. A million dollars in 1961 is the same as five and a half million in 1998. The clear implication in the original is that the father isn't "sort of" rich, he's really rich. This falls apart when you don't update the value for inflation. Is there a trope for this?

How to get my discussion noticed Film

So I created a discussion on Sony's Spider-Man Universe because someone undid my edits on the character page and they wouldn't respond to my PMs. However nobody has noticed it even though I left an edit with a reason saying I made one and honestly since it's the SSU I doubt anyone will check to see if there is a discussion. So is there some way I can get my discussion noticed like on a forum, because the way I see it if people agree with the troper who undid my edits then other stuff like it have to be removed from the SSU pages but if they agree with me I can add my edits back without being accused of edit warring.

What are the status of deleted scenes? Film

On Spider-Man: No Way Home, an Uncomfortable Elevator Moment has been moved from the main page to Trivia (in What Could Have Been) because it's in a deleted scene.

Where do we put trope examples that happens on deleted scenes? I have seen some on Trope pages, and they are often crosswicked on the main work's page, not in trivia.

For example, there is a Paparazzi example on AvengersInfinityWar.Tropes N To R that is also coming from a deleted scene.

Netflix Recommendation Film

Should we include the Chickenhare film on this site?

Should Film.Hustle have year added to page name? Film

Hustle is both a 2004-2012 TV series and a completely unrelated 2022 movie. Is it necessary to change the movie page's title to Film.Hustle 2022? Or would that only be necessary if there was another film named Hustle?

Valid YMMV entry deleted for a specious reason Film

I bring this here instead of just re-adding the entry to avoid starting an Edit War.

I added a Spiritual Adaptation entry in the YMMV subpage of The Northman, which compaired a Dungeon Crawling scene to The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim, and it has been removed (by Snake) for a reason which doesn't seem valid.

My entry:

• Spiritual Adaptation: The Dungeon Crawling scene (where Amleth enters a burial mound to steal a magical sword from the undead king buried here) has some similarities with The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim in terms of setting: the game is set in a Fantasy Counterpart Culture of medieval Scandinavia, and burial mounds filled with treasures are everywhere, especially since undead creatures similar to the Mound Dweller are the most common type of enemy inhabiting them (from Mooks to minibosses).

The deletion reason:

The sagas and initiation rites of ancient Scandinavia have barrow delving all the time. To say this film apes Skyrim is conceit of the lowest kind. Hamlet the Dane is the adaptation of Amleth's legend.

While I see their point, it seems they missed the "spiritual" part of Spiritual Adaptation. The movie being an overt adaptation of Norse legends and mythology doesn't mean we shouldn't point out similarities to other works, and that's actually what Spiritual Adaptation is for. With the same justification, the other Spiritual Adaptation entry on the page, added later (the same scene being compaired to a Dark Souls bossfight because of the fight's choregraphy) could be deleted too, because fights against giant enemies are everywhere in Norse mythology?

To be fair, between the trespassing into a burial mound, the plundering of a unique weapon, and the undead guardian serving as a boss (which looks almost exactly like the burial mounds' guardians from the game), their's enough similarities to make the compairison valid.

Can I restore my original edit?

Need Help Finding Out What a 2021 TV Series About Aliens is Titled Film

Hello, If you could help me with this, it would be greatly appreciated.

What is the name of that 2021 tv series which is a sci-fi series and I think is either PG or PG 13 But it's about an alien invasion where a boy finds a young cute little alien and tries to keep him away from being dissected and studied by the feds or to secret government and there's also a super hero that shrinks into an action figure and the boy puts the live action figure and the young alien in his backpack and when hes confronted to hand him over to the feds or top secret government with guns pointed at the alien he uses his mind power to get rid of the guns. And then he reunites with his Dad.

I just saw this add about this tv series on Facebook but I didn't catch the title of what it's called. I don't know if the tv series are on Netflix, Tubitv, Disney Plus, Crave or etc. Or any other streaming video websites.

If you could please tell me or find out what the name of this TV Series is called which I think is 2021 series that would be sincerely greatly appreciated.

Thank you very much. Have a great day.

Misleading entry? Film

The YMMV page for Fantastic Beasts: The Secrets of Dumbledore has this entry under Surprisingly Improved Sequel:

• Both critics and general audiences considered the film to at least be better than Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwald thanks to a simpler plot, better pacing, and more in depth character work, especially the relationship between Dumbledore and Grindelwald. However, while critics didn’t particularly care for it, it was more warmly received by general audiences who gave it the highest score of the series on Rotten Tomatoes ^note Which is the only review site that requires proof of purchase to rate. It also had much better holds at the box office (outside the US where it had a huge drop the second weekend before eventually stabilizing well) which implies good word of mouth.

Based on what I've read, the second part of the entry is not accurate. The film actually had a lower opening weekend than either of its predecessors and then dropped even further in the second week, and it currently stands as the lowest-grossing film in the franchise. It did somewhat better overseas but not enough to make up the difference. I edited the entry to include this information, but it was reverted with no edit reason given.

Production Posse clarification Film

Does the trope still apply if handful of actors keeps playing together, but there is no personal connection between them or with any of the producers or crew members and it just happens they are in the same films few times in a row?

Avoiding an Edit War Film

Okay so Jurassic World Dominion's YMMV page has a Critical Dissonance entry.

• It was added

• I then removed it since that trope requires either a month to pass or the work to be out of cinemas to count (that and the rotten tomatoes score isn't the most reliable so early as it could easily fluctuate )

• It was added back by a different person

Could we get a note to not add this to the page till the time has passed (and it still counts )

Shoehorned example of "Abusive Parents" on the character page of Turning Red Film

I really dislike Ming from Turning Red and I don't think she is a good mother, but the trope Abusive Parents under Ming's character folder seems iffy. They say that she's "not intentional" but Abusive Parents is for parents who are usually horrible to their kids and hate them. While Ming is an overbearing mother, I believe that she's far from abusive.