Police cars and sirens Film

Is there a trope where every time police arrive at a scene a siren goes off to announce their presence even when it’s not an emergency? For example, a scene that takes place outside a restaurant and police show up off screen, the siren will go off prompting the actors to turn around and notice a police car. The officers are probably just going to get food.

Things that haven't happened yet or didn't actually happen Film

ryanasaurus0077 has made these edits on Star Wars pages:

The Rise of Skywalker:

• Killed Offscreen: Ahsoka Tano is heard as one of the voices speaking to Rey when the spirits of all the Jedi manifest in her to help defeat Palpatine, suggesting that she may have perished sometime between Season 2 of The Mandalorian and this film since all the other voices are of the deceased.

(their edit in the spoiler text; it was made to a previous example — I deleted the whole thing for Speculative Troping)

Return of the Jedi:

• Asshole Victim: The luckless gamorrean mook who was standing too close to Luke and fell in the rancor pit with him, as well as Boba Fett and the various mooks who fell into the sarlaac. Only Fett lives to see the light of another day.
• Precision F-Strike: The strongest profanity ever heard in canon is uttered by a random Rebel just before the Executor crashes into the Death Star.
  Rebel: Die, dickheads!

Not sure I have indexed correctly Film

Hi tropers, I made a trope page for a Star Wars fanfic "Landscape with A Blur of Conquerors", and made an entry for it on the Fanfic Recommendations index page. The link I put on the index page takes me to the fanfic's trope page just fine. However, it still says down the bottom that it has not been indexed. What do I need to do to fix this?

Edit War Film

ritzoreo has sullied the name of two delicious snacks by restoring an example they wrote of Fandom Rivalry on Trivia.Sonic The Hedgehog 2020 that was deleted half a day ago, concerning a rivalry with Birds of Prey (2020), which we've established doesn't count. They also just didn't put the Fandom Rivalry wick in, as if that was the main problem.

(also they put it on the wrong page)

No Man's Land as Setting Trope Film

Do We Have This One? An area that thwarts any attempt to colonize or inhabit. Something like a wasteland or desert or frozen north or rocks galore. It's not evil per se nor purposefully resisting visitors; it's just not a place that welcomes settlers and rarely sustains them. Might be home to a strange old hermit and a pair of vultures, tops. Worth a YKTTW, or a pointless duplication?

A- 112 Film

A- 112 has added a Base-Breaking Character example before June 2020 (the specified date to add) to YMMV.The Rise Of Skywalker. Said example also contained some grammatical issues. Looking over their edit history, it seems that not many of their edits contain grammar problems, but they've also added what I believe to be misuse of Better Than Canon.

Edited by EarthboundFan

Full Metal Jacket: UnbuiltTrope for DrillSergeantNasty? Film

As the entry on the Drill Sergeant Nasty page notes, Gunnery Sergeant Hartman is the Trope Codifier, but at the same time he also deconstructs the trope, because he is actually a genuinely bad example of how a Drill Sergeant should perform his duties, and even his own actor — a retired real-life Drill Sergeant — noted that he'd have been in serious trouble if he'd ever acted like that. So, doesn't this make Full Metal Jacket an example of the Unbuilt Trope when it comes to Drill Sergeant Nasty? In fact, double-checking, it's actually listed on the Unbuilt Trope page for live-action film, so shouldn't it be edited to address that connection on the Drill Sergeant Nasty page?

Edited by WanderingBrowser

Why is "The Platform" locked? Film

I was looking forwards to adding a dozen tropes to the spanish film "the platform" but for whatever reason the page is edit locked. Is this just what happens with really new entries? Or was the original creator just too defensive over his/her work?

How to suggest/add a page Film

Hi! I have been an avid troper for years but have only used it with a profile off and on for a shorter amount of time. I know this is probably a basic question but if I wanted to make a page for a medium that doesn't have one/give it it's own page can I and how would I do so? I believe that Dragon Quest: Your story deserves its own, much longer and detailed page.

Proper use of DeadpanSnarker trope Film

It seems that if a character delivers some snarky lines in a film, they tend to get the Deadpan Snarker character trope listed in their section on the character page.

I had always thought that Deadpan Snarker was character who's communication contains a lot of snark and not just a handful of good snarky lines over the course of the entire movie because is seems that snarky dialog is the norm in movies currently.

However, re-reading the definition of the Deadpan Snarker says "A character prone to gnomic, sarcastic, sometimes bitter, occasionally whimsical asides. They can vary wildly from rare, funny one-liners to complete obnoxiousness."

That last part "from rare, funny one-liners" sort implies it can be just a few snarks where "complete obnoxiousness" implies they snark all the time.

But given such a broad range of expression, it seems that if a character delivers even a single snarky line, they qualify for Deadpan Snarker. Which kinda makes it a non-helpful character trope.

Am I interpreting the definition incorrectly?

Edited by rva98014

How should I handle an incorrect page name? Film

I created X The Man With X Ray Eyes last night after watching the movie, and managed to eliminate the "the" from the title before cross-linking it in about a dozen places. I did get the custom Wiki Word right. Am I better off creating it anew under the right title, and then modifying the references? Setting up a redirect? Just shrugging and saying it's close enough?

? titles Film

There are two series I'm trying to name/find.

1. Possible time of relase2003-2008 An English/Irish murder series where the guy/murderer of young school girls; moves in next door to the detective that is investigating the murders (that his neighbour is conducting). Not sure if either knew the other moved in next door. Caught 1 episode several years ago....and didn't think to write the name down

2. An Australian tv series possible 1999-2004 release; that features something about witches, the word "Black" I think.. is in the title. one scene has them running through the forest away from something. there was talk in the episode I caught, about a trait/powers that are passed down through the generations.

Edited by annskivonkranski

Captain Marvel Film

Just a heads up, a troper has added a lot of entries for Hypocritical Fandom to Captain Marvel (2019). I'm not taking action myself, but I feel like a lot of the entries are distortions of the context for the film's criticisms (poor use of flashbacks, retcons to the timeline of the series) or bring up criticisms I haven't seen made about the movie (bad villains, use of 90s music, boycotting the military).

Given this film's "controversial" nature, and the controversial nature of the trope itself, would anyone else like to weigh in?

Trope for punching meat? Film

I just read the Rocky film page and strangely enough I didn't see any mention of the famous meat punching scene...But I recall growing up in cartoons that was often parodied whenever a tough guy was exercising or a sports montage occurred. Is there a trope name for that?

FranchiseOriginalSin.StarWars Film

I want to start this by saying that locking or cutting a page should be used for worst-case-scenario pages only.

I've been trying to fix up FranchiseOriginalSin.Star Wars, and I've found that the page has many, many issues regarding the examples listed. It, of course, suffers from Complaining About Shows You Don't Like, as most Star Wars Audience Reaction pages end up like. Now, this in itself is a pretty fixable situation, because it's very similar to Narm.Star Wars, which we successfully cleaned out. Yes, it took months, but it was a satisfying conclusion.

But the Narm page was different, because that had 1-3 sentence examples that resulted in a simple cleanup objective of "remove misuse". It was very simple to fix the page. But with this page? No, my objective was to shorten the examples instead of cutting them. But the more I go into the page, the more I realize that nearly every example is a violation of Complaining About Shows You Don't Like, and it's frustrating. Just like Example Indentation or Zero-Context Examples, complaining is a fair reason to remove a bad example.

So here's the "Ask" part: What should be done with the page? If it's undeniably hard to fix, and just about every example is a heavy violation of policy, what can be done to help? I was thinking of maybe locking it, but it sounds too obstructive. Cutting is also an option if the cleanup proves unmanageable, but it's barely on the table.

So, what does the rest of the wiki think about the page?

Edit war Film

So the troper Singing Rain has readded a Critical Backlash entry to Ymmv/ The Last Airbender which I deleted for being weirdly bashing of fans who dont like it as well as sort of distorting things. it reads as an odd Take That! to them. Plus this is listed as one of the worst movies ever made so....Im not sure where their getting this from.

And well ymmv is true. Its supposed to be for general ymmv opnions so Im not sure Critical Backlash would work for this film since its still considered one of the worst films ever by the general public.

Edited by miraculous

Mulan WMG Film

This is on the WMG page for Mulan (2020) :

• Between the disastrous test screenings, the lead actress' poor reception (considered to be "more concerned with looking pretty than emoting"), her controversial opinion regarding the Hong Kong protests (which will not be discussed further here), the backlash Western fans have given to most of the changes (No Mushu, no songs, no Shang), and the recent underwhelming performance of Maleficent: Mistress of Evil at the box office, I'm not entirely confident that this film is going to do well in theaters. Perhaps if it ends up underperforming, Disney will decide to start releasing its remakes exclusively to Disney+, or eventually just cease to do them altogether.
  • There's also the coronavirus outbreak to be taken into consideration. It took everyone by surprise, but due to the large outbreak many Chinese citizens will be on quarantined or unmotivated to go to the movies, which will lead to the box office badly hurting.

I don't think this is okay, is it?

Edit warring and troper agendas on YMMV: The Rise Of Skywalker Film

Two tropers, Urth Wyrm and Apocrypha, have been edit warring on YMMV.The Rise Of Skywalker for two months about the kiss between Rey and Kylo. I'm not sure if my own edits fall into edit warring or correcting my misuse. Both seem to have ship-related agendas (one for, one against).

(ETA to fix my formatting errors; second correcting an error where I misstated that "nobody" responded to me in discussion rather than "nobody except Apocrypha")

Edited by immichan

Shipping Wank? Film

Troper Beyondthesea has been making a flurry of edits to the page of Avengers: Endgame regarding the ending of the film and its effects on Steve Rogers.

While most of these were initially germane if a bit Fan Wanky, I did delete a portion of theirs that seemed to be overtly taking a side as opposed to passively reporting on the situation in fandom, which is what the YMMV page and Broken Base are supposed to do. However they're now shoehorning in improper use of Unfortunate Implications, strawmen, and all kinds of what I consider to be lengthy Natter in order to justify their standpoint (based on the nature of their edits they seem to be an especially passionate Steve/Peggy fan).

Can I get any second opinions on this? As someone who is a fan of both Steve/Bucky and Steve/Peggy and has been passively involved in both subsections of fandom, I feel that this has crossed the line when it comes to impartiality, fair representation of viewpoints (I know some fans of Steve/Peggy or neither of the above ships who hated the fact that Steve voluntarily chose to go back during the ending, or who thought he was OOC in Endgame, personally), and overall good etiquette. I can also submit this to the Broken Base repair thread if necessary.

Edit: They're now also making shipping-based edits to Captain America: Civil War. See downthread for more information.

Edited by AlleyOop

Return of the Broken Aesop Film

On The Rise of Skywalker, The Prince Of Warchester has deleted both the Broken Aesop entry and the commented-out warning about The Last Jedi without giving an edit reason.

I know there have been plenty back-and-forth about this trope on this page, so I thought it was better to mention it here before reinstating it. I sent an "ignored comment" issue helper to the editor any way.

Do we have a page for "10 promises to my dog"? Film

I was looking for this film (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/10_Promises_to_My_Dog) but I couldn't find it on this website.

Recent Edit Film

I edited the "No Time To Die" page with legitimate, not speculative information. I even explicitly wrote that the information was stated by the director. Sure enough, when I checked back, my edit was removed, and back to the original post.

What's the problem now?

This is starting to feel very personal, frankly.

Series Film

I need help. I saw the first episode of a show. It was about a young boy who was born in a magical world separated by a wall from the non magical world. It happend that the boy grows up in the non magical world raised by a poor man. He likes a rich girl from their town but she kind of rejects him. He then sees a light falling from the sky wich was a actually a magical stone and promises to bring the girl that stone. In the magical world also bad things are happening . His real family members have murdered oneanother so he should be the next ruler of the realm. Also the show was narated. Please help. I would really love to see it up to the end.

Edit War Film

11 days ago Raf97 added a So Okay, It's Average example to Birds of Prey (2020). It was removed by Iredener today, and then re-added by Raf 97.

Scarface - Discussion in CBD trope? Film

Hi folks - never posted to Ask before, so apologies if I do this wrong. The troper WELCOME_BRIGADOR and I have been talking over on the trope page for Scarface, specifically about the trope Chronic Backstabbing Disorder. W_B favors the following text as a way of providing context for the use of CBD in the work:

"Chronic Backstabbing Disorder: heavily implied with Sosa. When "bro"-saying Nuyoricans - who are NEVER white - criticize types for being fake Hispanic, it's usually types like him. He behaves very strangely around Tony, like he's ready to throw him under the bus, but never says it to his face. Compare this to the white Frank Lopez, who at least threatens him to his face, quite a couple of times, when he's upset with him. Same with Omar Suarez, also white, Germanic, Visigothic surname, as is Lopez, who was actually openly hostile to Tony the entire time."

I favor cutting most of that as hard-to-follow and not relevant to whether/how the film satisfies the trope. We talked for a bit on the Discussion page, and both agreed that we would like perspectives from a third party. Help?

Edited by Irked