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Self Report Music
It appears I have let my hatred for sexual predators seep into my edit reasons
beyond a point that is considered socially acceptable. Admittedly, I am not handling the notion of a prolific nonce being allowed any freedom whatsoever very well at all.
I just want to explain that I acted rashly due to my anti-predator bias, compounded by the fact that Ian Watkins—a man who considers molesting children "mega lolz"—could go free in seven years.
I am considering going on hiatus so that I can clear my head.
I understand if the mods feel a suspension is necessary. Hopefully, if such is the case, I can appeal a while after the suspension, when I have a clear head.
Edited by SkyCat32
One Hit Wonder - for albums as well as songs? Music
supernintendo128 added an example to One Hit Wonder.Rock Music about an artist only known for one album. That term, and the page itself, traditionally refers to artists known for one song, not an album. The article itself describes songs not albums, most references I can find about the term describe songs not albums too. The term for an artist known for only one album seems to be "One Album Wonder". A One Album Wonder is a very different thing from a One Hit Wonder for songs: A "one album wonder" might have multiple hit songs from one album but then never have any others (Hootie & the Blowfish or Lauryn Hill, for instance) and none of those artists are listed on the One Hit Wonder pages.
I removed the example because it seemed to me to be a misuse of the trope and its long-held definition, but now I'm wondering if "One Album Wonder" or something to that effect could be its own trope or own subsection.
What do you all think should be done? Was this Remo Drive example about an album a misuse of the trope, or should One Album Wonder acts be listed in a new subpage? At the very least, I think listing album examples alongside the song examples could become very confusing very fast.
Edited by thelivingtoad
everything is an instrument Music
I'm looking for a song that is an example of the trope,"everything is an instrument". The song was made in a lumberyard using the machinery there.
Value judgements re-added to works page Music
This isn't as severe of a matter as the last time I inquired about it, but I'm asking it here to avoid the possibility of causing an edit war.
Long story short, Cecil Behar made a work page for Summer in Paradise, an album by The Beach Boys that was a notorious critical and commercial failure. The description included a paragraph about its negative reception, which ran counter to a point on Administrivia.How To Create A Works Page stating that value judgements (including critical and fan reception) shouldn't be in a work page's description. Consequently, I removed the reception portion, citing the Administrivia page in the edit summary. Some time later, however, CeciBehar added it back with the edit summary "I put back some of what I originally wrote in the album's description. It is allowed to include criticism if it references the reception of the work by the critics and reviews (and if this isn't allowed, a whole lot of different pages need editing too)."
If memory serves, "reception of the work by the critics and reviews" counts as a value judgement, meaning it'd go against the wiki's rules for works pages either way. Should it be removed again or is there actually an exception to the "no value judgements" rule that I wasn't aware of?
Split Enz Music Wiki Music
I want to make a Split Enz page for the band. However, the Music/ wiki has been redirected to an autobiography of one of the members and acting as a Literature wiki. I don't want to get rid of the Literature wiki but I think it should be separated and the Music page be created and be its own thing. Lots of the tropes mentioned are book-related which is fine but not relevant to the band as a whole and I can add some more band-related tropes with a true Music/ wiki.
Let me know if I can easily create the Music page without any issue from mods etc.
I think it's a fair move and they should be split (pun super intended) apart.
Harsher in Hindsight - Music Music
The Harsher in Hindsight page for Music is a complete mess.
Not only are there a lot of very weak examples (including numerous "oh no this person is now dead so sad" entries) but many entries are repeated, including the parts about Queen, Soundgarden & Sinead O'connor, among others. Multiple entries about the same artist have not been grouped together. And to top it all off, it's not in alphabetical order.
Putting this right will be a mammoth undertaking. Is there somewhere this can go in order to invite the community to do what we can to sort this page out?
Self titled EP Music
I've been thinking of creating a page for a self titled EP by 100 gecs, but the issue is I'm not really sure where that should go since 100 gecs would already be taken by the duo. Would it be a good idea to name it 100 gecs (EP) and then use WikiWord to turn it into "100 gecs (EP)" or is there a better solution for this?
Edited by Ghilsh
Kula Shaker page Music
I was making a trope page for the band Kula Shaker, only for it to get cut for being a stub. I'd like to try making it again as an actual trope page. And since I'm still relatively new to the process of creating pages, I'd happily accept help from others on this.
Recreating cut Thundercat page Music
I've drafted up a page for Thundercat, and noticed that it was cut due to being tropeless. Thankfully, the version I've drafted has 12 tropes, and I've also dipped into the Wayback Machine to modify the original page's description a bit, so it should solve any issues it once had. Am I good to set the page up?
Edited by Akriloth2160
GFunk page was inexplicably deleted Music
I launched a page on G-Funk that I'd been workshopping on the Trope Launch Pad (Afro Thunder was helping out a lot) but it seems to have vanished? No reason provided. The Laconic page is still there.
Complaining? Music
While looking at YMMV.Clean Bandit, I found an odd entry:
- Narm Charm: The pre-choruses of "Rockabye" about the protagonist's love for her child and her wish for him to have a better life are so emotionally vibrant that most fans don't notice or care how bad the writing is.
The thing is, I haven't seen complaints about the song's writing. This entry also seems like it's insulting the fanbase. May I remove it?
Pink Floyd - Ensemble Darkhorse misuse? Music
I was browsing through the Pink Floyd YMMV pages; the main band page, as well as the pages for some of their albums. And I noticed there are several Ensemble Dark Horse entries which discuss their albums and/or songs. I started to remove a couple of the entries, as I was always under the impression that this is specifically a fictional character trope. As in, it couldn't apply to a non-character such as an album.
But then I decided I might as well clarify. Is this exclusively a character trope, and those other Pink Floyd entries should be removed as well? Or can they remain as is?
Theater or Theatre? Music
So, a while ago (I think within this year?) I started creating pages for some plays that I like and I used the namespace "theatre", because I thought that was correct. It's what's listed on the "Namespaces" list, after all. But then — I honestly don't know what made me think this, but something told me it was supposed to be "Theater". Maybe it's the fact that "Theater" gives you the icon with the masks at the top — see Identity V vs. Tsukino Empire.
So I just started looking to see how I should move the "re" ones to the "er" namespace — I thought I'd done it right when I moved the Identity V one to "er" but someone changed it back in the months while I was away— and I looked and saw that apparently "re" is right.
But "er" has the masks icon.
... It looks like the pages I just created are the only ones in the "er" namespace, so I guess I'll move those to "re"?
Edited by lavendermintrose
Memetic Mutation misuse? Music
Found this on YMMV/Deftones:
- Memetic Mutation: Stephen revealing himself to be a believer in several conspiracies, including the flat Earth theory, anti-vax and COVID-19 denial, was immediately met with widespread scorn from the fandom along with several memes referencing songs such as "Hole in the Earth".
This is already in need of a tweak of some kind since that Vimeo link is dead, but I'm not even sure it's an example of Memetic Mutation - it's more focused on memes made in response to a scenario rather than the scenario itself becoming a meme.
Edited by Akriloth2160
Should there be tropes for guitar tunings? Music
Guitarists in many genres utilize countless different guitar tunings for various reasons: drop tunings for easier and faster fingering of low power chords, standard tunings for easier playing of spider chords, etc, and tuning often forms a big part of riff-writing, so I thought it might be worthwhile to associate these tunings with the musicians on this wiki.
Miley Cyrus Music
Miley Cyrus' description is kinda outdated and jumbled. I had moved her roles in 2016 from the description to a roles list below, but the 2015 stuff with her being genderfluid makes the rest of the description look off and abrupt, and I don't have any idea how to do with this without making the description look like an article for a teen gossip magazine.
The description needs help with updates.
I have asked this at this thread.
Typo in custom title Music
New Gold Dream (81-82-83-84) seems to have an improperly punctuated title; the space after 81 looks wrong. Can this be fixed?
Help With Title... Music
How should I make the title New Gold Dream (81-82-82-84 for a page for the album I want to make, but it looks weird with the numbers in the title, please help :(
A separate list of cover art tropes Music
The main page for Edguy has two separate trope lists - one for the music, and one for the cover art. The problem is that the cover art list only has four examples, two of which are under the same trope (that being Monster Clown). The header has the preface, "While not necessarily reflected in the lyrics...", but it's clear enough just from reading the examples themselves that they're talking about the cover art rather than lyrics. Is it worth having these examples in their own separate list when there's currently so few of them?
Edited by Akriloth2160