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The Hero of Super Mario 64 DS Videogame

I'm discussing with lcrossmk 8 about who can be considered The Hero of Super Mario 64 DS. I think Mario is The Hero because he fits many attributes associated with the heroic archetype (Jack-of-All-Stats, Primary-Color Champion, The Leader, Protagonist Title) and defeats Bowser in the end. lcrossmk 8 thinks Yoshi is The Hero for avoiding capture and saving the rest of the heroes, including Mario. In my opinion Yoshi could be the Supporting Protagonist (the game begins from his perspective, but Mario wins the final battle) or Decoy Protagonist (the game begins from his perspective but Mario is needed to win the final battle). What do you say?

Recreating the Magical Battle Arena NEXT page Videogame

Hey everyone, First time asking you guys this, but I just want to know: am I allowed to recreate that Magical Battle Arena NEXT page? This is the link I'm talking about: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/VideoGame/MagicalBattleArenaNEXT

Distance page revival Videogame

I noticed that originally, someone had created a page for the Video Game, Distance, but due to the original author never doing anything about the stubbiness of it, it ended up getting canned. But now, with the Adventure Update out, I feel that it might be time to revive the page, although I think we do need to figure out what tropes to put in it.

I know for a sure that, with the first Adventure Mode, it's a Timed Mission - with there being four hours in-game (which is slightly less in playtime, given that the timer drops quicker during teleporting between sectors than it takes to load) in order to complete the game (although I do not know yet what happens if time runs out) - while the second Adventure Mode, titled "Lost to Echos", basically shows how things have been in Nitronic Rush since when players completed it quite a few years ago (of which Distance is a Spiritual Successor of)

I just am not sure what else to add to the page to make it fleshed out enough for the Wiki Magic to be applied right now, as I'm slightly burned out from what I was doing.

Reads like fanfiction Videogame

JustForFun.Super Smash Bros Character Reveal Trailers is just a lot of crossover Super Smash Bros. fanfiction. Should TV Tropes really be a place for hosting fanfiction?

Problematic edits Videogame

RandomDudeDude is making, well, random edits to some Yu-Gi-Oh video game pages, including spelling/grammar errors and deletions.

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=VideoGame.YuGiOhForbiddenMemories

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=NightmareFuel.YuGiOhTheFalseboundKingdom

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=VideoGame.YuGiOhTheFalseboundKingdom

Restoring Characters/AzurLane and subpages Videogame

So, apparently most of Azur Lane character pages (except for Azur Lane Royal Navy) are cut because "Note: This page was cut for reason: Page created by serial ban evader. [mlsmithca]". Even so, the pages there are of an actual work (and I'm 100% sure that I am the one who created the Azur Lane Others page, but it still got cut due to being attributed to a ban evader for some reason). Could I restore the pages? And will the old entries come back or everything has to be rewritten again?

The cutlist Videogame

May a moderator or someone else on this website please delete the Star Wars The Clone Wars video game page? I feel that it is unnecessary for a video game that this to have a tv tropes page.

YMMV question Videogame

I found a YMMV page without a main entry, YMMV.Street Fighter The Storytelling Game The main entry is under TabletopGame.Street Fighter. Should I move it to TabletopGame.Street Fighter The Storytelling Game?

Suggesting material Videogame

I'd like to add a something to the God of War (2018) page of tropes. Specifically to the Nightmare Fuel page. I don't want to add it myself. I only want to point this thing out to a troper who had previously worked on/edited the God of War Nightmare Fuel page.

Edit war on YMMV. Spider-Man PS4 (spoilers in the examples) Videogame

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=YMMV.SpiderManPS4

Fallenleader 123 is un-correcting example indentation and moving non-YMMV tropes to YMMV, such as Not His Sled and Woobie, Destroyer of Worlds. I had fixed those examples previously only for them to be re-added.

DarthWiki's Non-functional Image Links for Senran Kagura Videogame

I don't really know how to do these things, but I just wanted to say that the first three blue links, and possibly more afterwards, are not working for this page. https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/NightmareFuel/SenranKagura I think mangapark, which is the site the links would link to, is dead or down.

I don't know if this is the right way to report this or whatever, but if there's a button for it, I couldn't find it, so here I am.

Folders Videogame

I noticed that Wolf Thunder changed all the folders on YMMV.Super Smash Bros to make an individual folder for each letter (with the exceptions of the #-A folder and I-J folder). I don't know if this is part of a cleanup or adapting to the new layout or something (I'm not very active on the forums at all) but I'm just putting it out here.

Leftover image from the page covering *that* Korean game Videogame

http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/

The DemonophobiaGuess.png picture is still on TV Tropes' server up there. Can you please delete it, too? I only created the Laconic page to show something... even if it's far from something.

Mistake with page naming (answered) Videogame

(Question has been answered, feel free to ignore.) I made a page for Has Been Heroes but forgot to add the hyphen in the title. Should I just make a redirect or should I do something else?

Here is the page if that helps: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/VideoGame/HasBeenHeroes

Also, I'm new here. Hi!

Not a Useful Note? Videogame

Why is there a Useful Notes page for Super Smash Bros? I don't think this really makes sense as a Useful Note.

1. Why should TV Tropes have an in-depth description of the modes of the game? Isn't that what the Smash Bros. wiki is for?
2. Is this really a Useful Note? It doesn't explain how the game is referenced in other fictional works and it doesn't really educate the reader with any real-world information.
3. If we do want to keep this, shouldn't this go in the Recap/ namespace because it's a "synopsis" or "recap" of the game in a way?

Length? Videogame

The page Final Combat specifically prohibits users from explaining the gameplay at all. It says that there will not be a long description of the game to prevent internet wars.

Is there really no way to talk about the gameplay without causing arguments? I still think it's possible to talk about the game in a neutral manner and I'm just curious as to why this hasn't been done yet.

Should the first Half-Life game fall under the 5th generation or 6th generation of video games? Videogame

I'm debating whether to put Half-Life and its expansions in either The Fifth Generation of Console Video Games or The Sixth Generation of Console Video Games. The reason for this is because video game generations are primarily defined by the duration of their consoles, but since Half-Life 1 was originally released on the PC, this technically skewers that rule. This is combined with the fact that according to The History of Video Games, the sixth generation started in 1998, and Half-Life 1 was released in 1998. So what should I do here?

YMMV Octopath Traveler edits Videogame

Over on YMMV.Octopath Traveler Knack is deleting stuff like Fan-Preferred Couple, Narm, Ho Yay, and They Wasted a Perfectly Good Plot, with edit reasons boiling down to "It doesn't make sense to be bothered by something for how it was intended", but I'm unsure if it's enough to warrant deletion as I have seen several people on multiple forums and discussion boards talking about the content in entries that were deleted, with many people talking about how they wished there was more character interaction during stories and/or the characters piecing together what they experienced throughout the story.

Another editor had put the deleted stuff back, saying "YMMV is based on opinions and, at least according to the pictures posted on Tumblr, these opinions seem to be widespread enough to be mentioned on this page. The fact that the game doesn't acknowledge the presence of the other travelers even in events in which they should be (Primrose is wounded, Therion is infiltrating a place) is a valid point and far from inaccurate." only for them to be deleted again.

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=YMMV.OctopathTraveler

An important cleanup mission to the page I worked with for over a year. Videogame

Taking profit off of Kuruni's scan on the Blazing Souls page, I noticed that this reminds me how I can't just do the whole work on my own if I am to follow the rules, so I decided to get some help.

The page, after over a year of work, is near completion due to what amounts to be solo work, but I am not in full understanding of all tropes, so I'll get tons of examples brought up from the page, as well as ask for things that should be cleaned or solved.

To sum it up: In 2017, I, as someone who played Blazing Souls and got into the Neverland franchise, noticed how the page had only up to Bridgette's trio in the character page. I decided to take up the task and play the game from the start again, adding the info and tropes as I came along. I came a long way into making the page the most complete possible, and I am close to finally achieving that.

The main problem is that I know no single soul in this site that has any knowledge of such an obscure franchise as the Spectral series. This, of course, left me scavenging for information, such that I'm planning to tackle Spectral Souls II as soon as I'm finished with Blazing Souls.

Kuruni's edits and warnings while I was banned reminded me that I could get banned if I don't get into form with making these pages. So yeah, I'll need to ask the Tropers a little help with Trope examples and other things in order to make the page cleaner and more presentable.

So, are you guys up with helping me out?

URL question Videogame

What kind of YouTube URLs should we link to? I saw over on YMMV.Yu Gi Oh Reshef Of Destruction, Malady changed a standard https://www.youtube.com/watch?v= URL to https://youtu.be/, which automatically redirects to the former when clicked and lengthens the URL in browsers. The page itself doesn't seem long enough for URL shortening to be necessary.

Pokemon's fanon page Videogame

bunny001 changed some examples. Usually the fanon pages are pretty up-for-grabs since fanon is so fluid and changes from area to area, but I'm doubting the validity of these edits.

These are the originals:

• Hilbert usually has Oshawott as his starter with Hilda having a Snivy as her own in fanworks. Likewise, Nate will be given a Tepig (partly due to the Pokemon Black 2 and White 2 movie trailer) while Rosa has an Oshawott. Despite this, Hilda and Hilbert are most often portrayed with Tepig, and Rose with Snivy, in official art.
• Hilda is usually depicted as the protagonist of the first games. With the sequels, fan-works are evenly split between Nate and Rosa (with a slight lean towards Nate due to the animated trailer and to make him contrast with Hilda).

These are the edits:

• Hilda usually has Oshawott as her starter with Hilbert having a Snivy as his own in fanworks. Likewise, Nate will be given a Tepig (partly due to the Pokemon Black 2 and White 2 movie trailer) while Rosa has an Oshawott. Despite this, Hilda and Hilbert are most often portrayed with Tepig, and Rose with Snivy, in official art.
• Hilda is usually depicted as the protagonist of the first games. With the sequels, fan-works are evenly split between Nate and Rosa (with a slight lean towards Rosa due to the animated trailer and to make her contrast with Hilda).

I am not interested in Unova fan-works anymore, but I remember at least during Gen 5 itself the original versions were accurate. I've always seen Hilbert with Oshawott and Hilda with Snivy. I'd also say fanworks lean towards Nate over Rosa.

Need help getting a Work page off the ground Videogame

I'm trying to write a page for the game A Noble Circle, but I'm not much of a gamer. I'd really appreciate some help from someone more well versed in video game tropes. I highly recommend the game. It's from the creators of A Dark Room and The Ensign, and in my opinion, it's a little piece of magic. It's available on the App store, and with a bit of dedication, you can play through it in an afternoon. https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/VideoGame/ANobleCircle

Dub Names Videogame

On the Dragon Ball Fighterz character page, several parts of the page use the Japanese names for things, such as calling the Spirit Bomb Genkidama, which while the Japanese name, is not what is consistent with the other Dragon Ball pages. I went to fix this, since general rule seems to be use dub names, but after I removed them or put the english names, Majin Akuma reverted them back to normal.

Are we still using dub names? I know we've had issues before with other tropers about similar issues.

Welcome to the Grump Dump Videogame

Spotted on YMMV.Super Mario Odyssey under Most Annoying Sound, courtesy of Drillimation:

"We've already talked about the annoying Hanna-Barbera zing out whistle that Mario or Luigi would emit every single time they long jump in Super Mario Galaxy and its sequel. They don't do it this time, how about it going over to the Trapeetles when they charge at you after you throw Cappy at them!? That sound comes from hell. William Hanna and Joseph Barbera might as well be Flandre Scarlet's pitchforks. To add insult to injury, there will be parts where you will be forced to do this in order to break some blocks. Good luck if you're trying to find all the Power Moons on Lost Island, because you will be hearing this a lot."

Yes, I understand that it's a YMMV tropes, but this seems to be veering into excessive complaining.

Undertale path name policy Videogame

Just to be clear — our policy is that Undertale's Kill 'em All path can be referred to as either "No Mercy" or "Genocide", right? Because most of the subpages have a commented note indicating this, but Funny.Undertale had one claiming that we should only use "No Mercy".