Confusing entry edit Videogame

I was going to ask this on the page's cleanup thread, but I feel I should get some opinions here first.

I know that The Last Of Us Part II is an extremely controversial game, but its entry on the Overshadowed by Controversy's Video Games page was edited a few hours ago from this:

"[...]both critics and defenders of the game launched toxic attacks on one another, including detractors sending death threats to Laura Bailey (whose only involvement in the game was voicing one of said controversial new characters)"

to this, by the user Technomancer 02:

"both critics and defenders of the game launched toxic attacks on one another, including detractors and supporters sending death threats to Laura Bailey (whose only involvement in the game was voicing one of said controversial new characters)"

It's probably just me, but it strikes me as confusing that supporters of a game would bash someone in the same way as their hatedom? I know nothing of the situation so I thought I would ask anyone familiar with the work.

Cancelled works Videogame

So I was Browsing Bioware and found we have pages to their cancelled games.

Command & Conquer (2013) and Shadow Realms. Is this allowed ?

No mention of Borderlands in Awesome Videogame Levels? Videogame

It's curious there is zero mention of Borderlands maps or scenarios. And there are a lot of very climatic levels like Angel's room, Bunker, Vault, etc.

Safe to recreate cut page for a Cars game? Videogame

This is kind of a silly question, but I'm here to ask if it's okay to recreate Cars Race-O-Rama, the page for a semi-obscure tie-in game for Pixar's Cars. It was apparently cut for reading "Like a Wikipedia summary of the games" and not actually listing any tropes.

Since the issue seems to be that the original page was badly written to the point of being useless, I imagine it would be fine for me to make a proper page for this game. I do have a list of tropes pertaining to Cars Race O Rama. I just wanted to ask before doing anything, per the warning on the cut page itself.

Edit War going on in WMG/SuperSmashBrosUltimateSpiritIdeas Videogame

The WMG page for Super Smash Bros. Ultimate has a section dedicated to people sharing Spirit Battle ideas, with there being three sub-pages for organization: One for franchises that are already in the game, another for games not in the game (organized by parent company), and one that's basically "anything else goes, even for non video game characters".

However, recently a user by the name of Leirdo has been repeatedly deleting other peoples' entries and writing in arbitrary "rules" that were never enforced or discussed by other editors or moderators. These "rules" are written as the following:

1. Don't Add characters that don't first debut as Video Game characters (even Characters that first debut in non video game adaptations of Video games). (EX:Ash Ketchum, Escargoon, and Christopher Thorndyke) nor video game characters owned by Non video game companies (EX:Kingdom Hearts Characters) and companies that have never been on a nintendo console.
2. Make sure the spirit battle references match the characters.

In response to me bringing back the entries that he's deleted in the name of his "rules", he sent me a message claiming that I and other editors involved with the page "should be punished" for removing his edits.

I believe that action should be taken against Leirdo for his unruly behavior.

EDIT: Removed the full DM and paraphrased some of it instead.

Unnecessary description for an empty page. Videogame

So I was looking up a FNAF game named Freddy in Space 2. So I checked the YMMV page and I found nothing but an pretty unusual note that says "This page was made by somebody whom doesn't have exp. with Trope Page Maker." made by somewhat new Troper named Lil Cutie. Also their edit reason is "uhhhh.." as if they are confused or something. Should we have someone fill it out or we have to cut it for being a stub?

Yo What Gives. Videogame

Anyone know why they deleted the Fan Works page of Friday Night Funkin'?

How does this site work and what are its rules? Videogame

Hi I'm new here and I was wondering how this wiki-page is going, if you can edit or add or you have to inform the moderation beforehand.

Recreating Characters/GuiltyGearStrive Videogame

So the character page for Guilty Gear Strive was deleted after the main page got deleted. As of right now, the character information and tropes posted in the Strive characters page can't be found on other pages. Is it possible to restore this particular character page?

Edit War alert Videogame

UsefulNotes.Ren Py

Yesterday, Ame 14 added Student Union to Ren'Py-based games that have a page on this wiki index. As you can see, it is red link, so Koveras commented it out and explain in the edit reason that it's a list of games that has pages here.

Today, Ame 14 uncommented it despite it is still a red link (Koveras also commented it out again, but I see no problem with that).

No More Gameplay Videogame

Uninspired Username 279 seems to be running a script that removes the word "gameplay"? So far this only seems to have taken effect on VideoGame.Super Paper Mario though.

How do I include special characters in page titles? Videogame

Things like quotation marks or colons. I'm trying to create a work page where the title has an apostrophe but if I try to create a page by modifying the URL, special characters aren't allowed. This is the game I want to create a trope page for.

What kind of page do mods and fanmade songs for Friday Night Funkin go into? Videogame

So, I'm the main guy who launched and frequently checks the Friday Night Funkin' page, and as I've been looking around the edit histories, it's become evident that a few tropers would like to add examples of mods/fan created songs to pages like Awesome Music and Nightmare Fuel. I for one think that FNF has a healthy modding community ripe with lots of examples and I was hoping that these would breath new life into the page during the lulls of waiting for the game itself to be updated, so I tried making a fan works page, since you can't add examples of mods to main pages. Unfortunately, I used the page incorrectly (Accidentally. My bad.) and it got cut. I can only assume that we should use the Fanfic Recs option? I'm a little confused on the matter since I wouldn't really consider game mods fanfics.

ReligiousAndMythologicalThemeNaming and a Halo franchise example with possible spoilers Videogame

My main concern is how to write this so as to avert creating a Self-Fulfilling Spoiler. The Flood in Halo is very clearly named after the Genesis flood narrative, but how would I go about adding this in to the page without creating a Self-Fulfilling Spoiler since in the backstory, the Flood were effectively created as a means to purge the Forerunners, who retaliated by creating an Ark to preserve most species?

JumpStart Wiki Word - Space or no space? Videogame

The Wiki Word for Jump Start is in an awkward situation. The name belongs to both a comic strip and a video game series, but the comic strip's title has a space between the two words, while the game series' title doesn't. Could we maybe add a suffix to each work page? Something like "Jump Start (comic)" and "JumpStart (game)" and make them separate pages so that both pages can have the correct spacing?

Cover Image Videogame

Hello, all. I have a quick question about image copyrights.

Where does the cover art for a video game fall? When is it okay to use and not okay to use?

Does having your memory erased and replaced with FakeMemories count for BrainwashedAndCrazy. Videogame

So there's a character in Fire Emblem Awakening, whose backstory involves her being kidnapped as a teenager by people she hates, having her entire memory and personality erased to the point she no longer remembers her parents or even her name, and then all this being replaced with a Fake Memories magically implanted into her mind. She is then used to carry out her kidnapper's bidding.

The character describes herself as a ""A girl enslaved mind, body, and soul" and the official sources use "pawn" and "puppet to describe her, with the Fire Emblem wiki(link , ) describing her with the word, "brainwashed."

The reason I put this here is someone keeps contesting this example and saying she wasn't brainwashed, even though there is a similar character listed from Sailor Moon. I wanted to know what ATT thinks? Does that count as an example of Brainwashed and Crazy?

Notifier for Copying Straight from Other Wikis Videogame

I noticed the creation of Characters.Atelier Ryza 2 Lost Legends And The Secret Fairy within the past day and, looking at its original version, noticed that nearly all of the present character profiles were copied straight from the Atelier Wiki: https://atelier.fandom.com/wiki/Atelier_Ryza_2:_Lost_Legends_%26_the_Secret_Fairy

I've removed the copied profiles but also want to notify the original editor about the issue. As there isn't a dedicated option, I went with "none" and elaborated as best I could.

That begs the question: Will that type of notifier be added in the future or is it not considered common enough to warrant being an option?

Indentation issues Videogame

Zenaida Zeal recently added an incorrectly indented entry in YMMV.Dragon Age Inquisition.

I fixed the indentation and sent them a notifier. Today, they reverted it.

I mean, I get making a mistake out of ignorance, but I just can't explain this.

Mass Effect 2 YMMV Videogame

YMMV.Mass Effect 2's examples are sorted into folders for different characters. Is this okay?

YMMV.Mass Effect 1 and YMMV.Mass Effect 3 are not sorted like this.

Feral Video Game page recreation Videogame

I'd like to recreate the page for the video game Feral. I play the game regularly and have at least a few ideas for what tropes to put on the page, including Darker and Edgier (than the studio's previous work, Animal Jam), Green Hill Zone (Lakeroot Valley), Bubblegloop Swamp (Mugmyre Marsh), and others. I also have some thoughts for a YMMV page and perhaps even a WMG page (including lots about Blood Tundra, of course!)

Sense: A Cyberpunk Ghost Story has a OBC entry that's very strange. Videogame

Sense A Cyberpunk Ghost Story has a very strange Overshadowed by Controversy entry that doesn't explain the whys and how it was overshadowed.

Also it's based around the moral backlash against the Switch version which has not released, doesn't it count if it is based around an recently released version?.

Update; Here's the entry.

• Overshadowed by Controversy: As mentioned on the main page under Content Warnings, the developers had to release an official statement that the Switch port of the game will remain uncensored. This is because, as this news update states, coverage of the game "was shared in some twitter and facebook groups which made it their mission to harass and send abuse toward both [Top Hat Studios Inc] as well as the developers of Sense publicly and privately, including significant threats as well as doxxing in addition to other less than ideal messages and false information about the game". Said media attention then led to the publishers "accused of making up the controversy for a marketing stunt, which, as those who follow [Top Hat Studios Inc's] social media may have seen, was certainly not the case".

Edit War in YMMV/FinalFantasyXV Videogame

Immortal Bear re-deleted an entry I restored to Final Fantasy XV since their original deletion lacked an edit reason. They've provided an explanation after the fact, but most of it comes off as personal opinion and dislike of the Episode Ignis ending for reasons unrelated to what the original entry was about (that being that audience perception of its tone shifted due to Dot F), rather than an impartial collective observation of the reactions of the fandom at the time.

I've PM'd them as much, pointing out to them that they seem to take the YMMV label too literally as its actual focus is to describe audience responses to a work rather than to post personal opinions, that contrary to their belief the page is not trying to wage a war over which ending is objectively better, and I've also pointed out to them that though they claim the only people with a non-negative opinion are a Vocal Minority, other tropers have made the same observations as me regarding the state of the fandom at the time.

They seem to believe that because Dawn of the Future has an overall score of 9.0 on Good Reads (which often has a userbase culture distinct from the social media sites I frequent like Twitter, Tumblr, Reddit, or imageboards, and whose score doesn't always take into account things like the specific comparative tone of the ending), while Episode Ignis rates an average of 7.0 (the score again mostly focusing on things like gameplay rather than tone), that it invalidates everything I've said above, since I don't have hard sources on hand for every tweet or social media comment I've seen regarding people being softer on Episode Ignis's ending or disliking Dawn of the Future's approach.

I don't think that makes for an effective counterargument as YMMV does not mandate sources in general, and Dawn of the Future's perception outside of GR tends to attract a lot of negativity in its own right, not to mention disregarding said potential inherent selection bias (the people posting reviews were probably accepting enough of the controversies around the book to read through the whole thing). The reviews themselves on GR are variable with many positive scores criticizing the ending, and many reviews that praise the ending having mediocre scores on the whole.

None of the arguments they've provided contradict the initial point (that people's opinions of Episode Ignis became less hostile once Dawn of the Future was announced) of nor justify the deletion of the entry describing how people's hostility to a certain alternate ending seen as overly happy, dipped off once another, even happier ending showed up. Especially since the edit reason for deleting it is focused mostly on arguing why Alternate Ending #1 is badly written and any talk of audience reactions is more about pointing out that a portion of the audience exist who liked the other newer, even happier ending, even though the original entry never claimed otherwise or to speak for the entirety of the fandom.

Update: They are now accusing me of outright lying and being biased in favor of one ending for disputing their deletions, despite the major issues here having to do with a lack of, followed by questionably irrelevant removal reasons in what is a potential edit war. Update 2: They've taken it back after I explained myself further.

Accidentally cutlisted wrong page. Videogame

Meant to Cut List Characters.Kaiju Combat, ended up cut listing the actual page, Characters.Colossal Kaiju Combat, instead. Please deny that cut.

How should Characters/FateEXTRA be split? Videogame

Given that the character page for Fate/EXTRA has gotten overly long, how should it be split?