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Combined examples needing split Videogame

I'm working on a trope page for a project of mine (though I'm keeping it off TvT itself until said project gets far enough), but I'm having a problem with two of them. At the moment, they had to be merged into a single example in order to make sense, but I want to split them into separate entries that still reference each other in a coherent manner.

• Attract Mode/Automatic New Game: When the game is first started, the main menu treats you to a flyby of the Hub (sans portals) in the background, with the menu itself disappearing if the game is left alone long enough. When a new game is started, the menu goes straight into it’s Attract Mode as if it’d been left alone, but the music starts to fade out instead of remaining on, as the camera slows to a stop. A few seconds later, we’re treated to a loud *THUD* followed by an equally loud “...Ow!” from Mike after another second, immediately going into the intro mission’s starting cutscene from there.
  • On subsequent loads, the game does the same thing, but for the world the player was last in. But instead of going into attract mode, it instead fades to black (which also functions as a concealed loading screen), before cutting to a short scene showing Sam/Mike waking up, at which point it seamlessly switches to gameplay.
  • When starting a new game (or new game+) when not in the Hub, it will start differently, with the game fading out as normal, before the loud thud is heard while the screen is still faded out. Beyond this, the scene starts as normal.

Sonic Chronicles & BioWare Videogame

Shouldn't Sonic Chronicles: The Dark Brotherhood be listed on BioWare's Creator page? They were the ones who developed the game, after all.

Illegal SNK Boss page Videogame

This page seems to have been created by a troper who's frustrated that they are unable to add some entries under That One Boss's restrictions (and Dark Souls is known to have some extremely tough bosses that are completely optional). I know, because I am the one who has to repeatedly stamp a huge warning to not add Final Bosses and Bonus Bosses on ThatOneBoss.Dark Souls whenever there's some stray troper that thinks That One Boss applies for anything under the sun.

Should I add this to the cutlist on the basis that none of the entries listed there are even remotely connected to the SNK Boss's criteria? As it stands, the page is full of the whiny entries I deleted over the past years.

Could my recent created page that was cut be restored? Videogame

I recently created a page for an upcoming game titled "YIIK: A Postmodern RPG" that's due for release in January 2019 with its description and overview. However, by not adding a trope in, the page was cut.

I would be willing to add several tropes in if it's possible to bring the page back.

Misuse on Horny Devils? Videogame

So I was skimming through the Horny Devils page and I noticed that the Darkstalkers page is kind of incorrect. As in, there's no sex involved, Morrigan normally "eats" dreams and the thrill of battle to stay alive as opposed to just draining someone's soul by sex (like most of the examples on that page). I was thinking about deleting it for not fitting in with the trope's description, but I figured that it would be better if I asked here first.

Vandal in the Pokemon character pages Videogame

The troper sneakyspook is vandalizing Pokemon character pages by spreading false information like changing Pokemon types.

Links here, here, and here (although the last one I fixed).

How to deal with edits that are based on leaked content? Videogame

As you may know, Destiny 2 has released its latest expansion on Tuesday 4, and for the past 2 weeks, TrocyteV has been adding tropes related to content that has not been released (and won't be for a good while), based on what they're reading from the various leaks on the game's datamined files.

To me, that is a completely unacceptable practice and it goes even beyond spoiler rules. Should some kind of intervention be required here?

How is this edit? Videogame

made a significant addition/edit to Everything Is Going To Be OK — this is my first time editing anything here, so I want to make sure it looks good. Is it, um, OK?

Selective Condemnation Videogame

Recently I put an edit on Selective Condemnation in regards to an article on a game that had, of all things, rape as a game mechanic. This drew the ire of one critic who essentially said violence, criminal glorification are in the media spotlight but this deserves to be gutted with a rusty fishing hook.

Well that example was taken down with a big flat "No" and I thought, "...yeah okay fair enough" so I wanted to run a different example through here to make sure it applied.

• The condemnation of companies such as EA can reach the point where some of their harshest critics almost threaten physical attack on their employees. And yet as bad as their business practices are said to be, 2K Games is largely ignored. 2K, you see, have not only been all in on child exploitation through pressuring underage gambling, they are begging kids to appeal to the government to allow 2K to exploit children.

Happy to cite sources and include links, but would this be valid to include?

We've Got a Scrappy Problem Videogame

About a month ago, I deleted all the entries for The Scrappy on Criminal Case because they were clearly meant to be hated and hated badly. Here it is for reference:

I discovered only today that three days later, user pizzasoda66 added them all back. Their reasons were, and I quote, "The description of this trope is "The fans hate this character for some reason.". Just because they're supposed to be disliked doesn't mean they're not scrappies. Why do you think they were voted as the most annoying character?"

Whether or not a character who's meant to be hated can qualify as a Scrappy anyway is a mug I don't wanna chug right now, but their description of The Scrappy as a trope is way off. It's the given explanation on the laconic page, which feels like an artifact of the past, and should be changed to add the qualifier "against the intentions of the creator". Because that being the case, again, none of these assholes are unintentionally hated.

I would go back and say this, but I'd rather not get hit with an Edit War accusation and edit banned for it. What do you guys think?

Is there a Trope for this? Videogame

Ok so, let's say a game has two parts. Part 1 has a plot that seems pretty straightforward, characters are established. Then Part 2 comes along and suddenly there are new plot points that seem to contradict Part 1, as well as new traits for characters that weren't there before.

A specific example I found is in the game Sally.exe Continued Nightmare: Eye of Three, of which I made a page. Part 1 has the main villain pretty much be an evil power hungry demon who is murdering the heroes to use as servants. Then Part 2 suddenly introduces new characters that the villain is actually fighting against, and the reason he is murdering so many is to protect them.

The inconsistency is largely because Part 1 is not changed much from the demo and these story elements were planned later in development.

So I don't know if something like this would be a trope.

How to add different sub-pages? Videogame

Hi, I've been thinking about expanding out some of the Tier-Induced Scrappy wicks on the page and make them their own pages, however I don't know where to start with it.

(I tried to use the +New tab but it didn't give me an option to create one?)

Question about adding a media page Videogame

I'm kind of new to TV Tropes as a whole, so I'm not sure what to do in this situation. Let's say I want to make a page about the mobile game Lonewolf. Let's also say that there's already a page for a different video game called Joe Dever's Lone Wolf, which has the alternate title Lone Wolf. What should I do?

Spam in review comments Videogame

More spambots in the review comments:

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/review_comments.php?id=6277

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/review_comments.php?id=15822

Typo in page title Videogame

There's a typo in the title of the character subpage for the villains of the videogame Heavy Rain (it says "villians"). I guess the way to fix it is to create a new page with the right title and move all the content there, and adding the original page with the typo to the Cut List, but I'm not sure what would be the proper order to do this. Should I create the new page and just leave the old one there with no links leading to it until it's deleted? Or should I wait till the old page is deleted before creating the new one? Maybe there's a completely different way to fix this problem that I don't know about?

Concerning Troper Videogame

Purpleand Red has posted a rewiew on The Legendof Zelda Skyward Sword that has me concerned about their attitudes towards women. They have also been banned from reddit for spamming and has done the same tactic on other sites. I'm not asking to ban them, just that people are aware when they inevitably start an edit war.

Edit page problem on smash bros character page Videogame

I have been trying to add a character folder under the bosses section of the Super Smash Bros character sheet, but whenever I save my edit, my folder is nowhere to be found. That page in particular has a lock icon beside the Edit Page link. The preview works fine, I wait for the edit lock to expire, and I even refresh the page a few times with no luck, so what gives?

Creating dedicated trope pages Videogame

I am currently editing the Persona 2 trope index and I need to add a dedicated Foreshadowing page because that entry has far too many examples to be manageable in the game's main index. How do I do that?

King Boo in Luigi's Mansion 3 Videogame

Since King Boo was marked as a Complete Monster in Dark Moon, won't he still be called that in the 3rd game even if his actions in here aren't as heinous as the previous game?

Hitchhiker's Guide Text Adventure Dog Puzzle Videogame

On the Infocom / Unwinnable By Design page, there's a mention of a solitary clue to feed the dog the stale cheese sandwich (a throwaway joke) triggered by typing an invalid command after leaving earth. What kind of invalid command, and when after leaving earth? When you're Arthur Dent in the dark?

Red Dead Redemption 2 Videogame

Should We Have This? Got myself a dumb question here, at the trivia section of Red Dead Redemption 2 there a line that says "Jossed: RDR and GTA don't take place in the same universe. In "The First Shall Be The Last" New York gets name-dropped in conversation, of which neither state nor city exist in GTA." without direct word of god information out of pure speculation and might have contradict itself due to a stranger mission called geology for beginners

Argument on Characters.KirbyEnemies. Videogame

Tropers/{{I—Vanya—I}} removed an example of Palette Swap from Characters.Kirby Enemies with the reasoning that since (Despite the fact that it's not the only example of Palette Swap on the page) lots of enemies that appear in Nightmare in Dream Land come in alternate colors, it doesn't make sense (Despite the fact that nothing was stopping anyone from either adding it to other sections later if needed, if not an In General/General Tropes section if listing all of them in separate spots proved redundant, though I don't think the latter is necessary as of yet).

When I put it back with the reason that other enemies having it was irrelevant (Since I figured being a Character page made it implicit that all someone needed to do was just add the other examples as necessary since you might not necessarily remember every single example), they removed it again with the reasoning of:

"Again, the same thing applies to nearly every enemy in Nightmare in Dream Land. Heck, this even applies to Super Star (Ultra). It's not exclusive to Coner. So either you add it to EVERY SINGLE ENEMY that gets palette-swapped, or just don't add it to Coner."

Discussion posts Videogame

For some reason, my comments on discussion pages aren't saved. Could anyone please help me?