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How do I add a page to a work? Videogame

I'm want to clean up YMMV.Team Fortress 2 by giving the Scrappy Weapon trope its own page, since there are so many and each class has one. How do I make it so that it shows up when I click the "More" header option?

Want to ask this in hopes of preventing an EditWar Videogame

So, in Unbuilt Trope I recently added the example of how Resident Evil 4 codified the Press X to Not Die trope and how it mainly existed to play up the Survival Horror elements and keep the player on their toes during cutscenes.

However, not a day later I checked back and see someone had replaced Resident Evil 4 with Clock Tower in the example. I don't want to change it, mainly because I never played Clock Tower myself so I can't say anything.

Can anyone verify if it's a better example for this trope or should be reverted back? Since I don't know anything about Clock Tower I don't want to get into a possible edit war over this. All I really know is that Press X to Not Die didn't really take off until RE4 did it, even if other examples existed earlier.

Book of Mario Description Question Videogame

So I added a page for Book of Mario: Thousands of Doors, a fan translation of the Thousand Year Door. What I'm wondering is: would it be acceptable to either copy the description for Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door, but substitute the names with the ones from Book of Mario as a joke, or to run the TTYD description through several different translations? I want to avoid plagiarism, and I'd like to know if doing either of those things would qualify.

Reporting a vandal Videogame

User "Burn And Pillage" is erasing large chunks of You Have to Burn the Rope and adding nonsense.

Wham Episode misuse Videogame

For the It Lives anthology, I found several examples of Wham Episode. I'm not entirely sure what qualifies, but I know that the "status quo" shouldn't change that often. A little help here, please?

It Lives in the Woods:

• At the end of Chapter 7, Cody is impaled on the tree outside of Devon’s house!

This is the first death in the series, and it suggests that the monster is actually on the hero's side in a twisted way.

• Chapter 14 reveals a big one. Jane is Redfield and Noah knew!

Knowing that your dead childhood friend is the monster adds a lot of information. For example, it explains why misfortune came upon those who wronged the protagonists in any way. I'm not sure if it counts because it changes what you knew in the past, not what's going to happen for the rest of the story.

• Chapter 15. The fate of all of your friends is determined and either Devon or Noah take Jane's spot as Redfield.

The previous chapter was already leading up to this. It's climactic, but I wouldn't say it's a wham episode. It Lives Beneath:

• Chapter 7 of It Lives Beneath reveals the members of the cult: Astrid and Vincent Wescott, Richard Sutcliffe, Chief Kelly, but the biggest one is Arthur!

Several of the protagonists' parental figures turn out to be part of the cult that seems to be linked to the numerous deaths. The idea that the main character's grandfather could be a villain was widely unanticipated. The following chapter reveals that the cult is actually "good", so now they're all working together to fight the "evil" lake monster.

• Chapter 11 is another one. The Society's plan of sealing the Lake Ghost is to use Harper as a sacrifice, which means draining all of their blood. It also reveals that the Westcott's bodyguard, Craig, is a golem like the kind Mr. Red could summon, and is a shapeshifter by turning into Ned! All hell breaks loose as Parker and Danni are tossed overboard during the melee.

Surprise, surprise. The society turns out to be evil. There were plenty of chances to insist you didn't trust them between the revelation that they were good and the revelation that they weren't.

• Chapter 12 drops a bombshell revelation. Arthur has broken out of prison and he was not the one who killed Harper and Elliot's parents, with Vincent having mind-controlled him into falsely confessing. The Lake Ghost's identity is also revealed to be Josephine Vance, Arthur's dead wife and Harper and Elliot's grandmother.

Now Grandpa is good and the lake monster is good and the cult is evil. The only thing new is the revelation that you have a tie to the monster.

• Chapter 14 has a couple. Chief Kelley is killed by Parker or a bear monster and Vincent is killed by Josephine. It is revealed that Josephine feels Arthur betrayed her and vows revenge on him and the rest of the Society.

Deaths are already common enough in this story. As for the revelation of Grandpa betraying his wife, it adds some moral ambiguity, but our perspective of him has already changed enough times to not be considered a change in status quo every time.

• Chapter 15 is also one: Josephine floods the town and lets the monsters loose, which can may kill civilians. Astrid is murdered by Josephine, and depending on nerve, the monsters may kill one of your friends. Josephine decides to go after Arthur and Harper follows her.

Once again, the previous chapter was already leading to this, and deaths are nothing new.

Edited by k5972

I found a Kirby fan game, and I want there to be a page for it... Videogame

... But I'm not good at this whole "troping" thing. The game is called "Kirby Invaders From The Dark", And while it isn't a GREAT fan game, It is impressive for one made in Game Maker. I wish I knew more about it, and it would be nice if you peeps can help. So, Can you help with that? If not, it's understandable.

Pokémon Rangers Fanfic Recs Page Lacks Substance Videogame

Pokemon Ranger was created by the Troper Rangers Oath on April 18, 2017. There have been no edits since, and the entirety of the page reads "how did i get here i am not good with computers". Not sure what needs to be done about it.

Splitting a Characters Page Videogame

The Characters page for Octopath Traveler is realllly long, so I'm wondering if it would be a good idea to split it into separate pages for different categories (main characters, villains, supporting characters). It currently has folders for those, but even with the folders closed the page looks really long. Would it be a good idea to split it? And how would that work? I've read the Administrivia on splitting pages, but I don't entirely understand how one would go about this split.

Where can I report misuse of Franchise namespace? Videogame

In the case that it's here, it's Franchise.Five Nights At Freddys. The only non-fanwork media namespace is VideoGame.Five Nights At Freddys

Anthem redirects Videogame

Trying to move VideoGame.Anthem to VideoGame.Anthem 2019 (there's a book that conflicts), and the redirects aren't working. Even copy-pasting them from working redirects doesn't work.

Spoiler issue on VideoGame.KingdomHearts3 Videogame

Yesterday, I removed the spoiler markup from the All White Entries on VideoGame.Kingdom Hearts 3. Tropers.Ashlay whited-out a massive chunk of a sub-example with the following edit reason:

"most people haven't seen or played X, this needs context. and spoiler tags."

Here is the sub-entry in question:

• The epilogue has Xigbar revealed to be Luxu, the original owner of Master Xehanort's keyblade. He then summons four of his fellow seven Foretellers, ancient Keyblade wielders associated with The Seven Deadly Sins whose actions brought about the first Keyblade War that literally ripped the worlds apart into what they are today, minus Ava (Greed) and their master (Pride). And, as Maleficent and Pete watch from afar, Luxu begins filling his cohorts in on what's been going on in the ages they've been away and what the plan is from here on. Finally, the game pulls out to the Framing Device, as a Young Eraqus and Xehanort start a new chess game representing the future conflict of the Seven Foretellers vs Sora.

From what I can tell, it violates Administrivia.Self Fulfilling Spoiler since it hides so much of the text. Is this level of markup kosher?

I have sent them a notifier regarding spoilers, but they have yet to respond. I'm asking here, too, to avoid an Edit War.

GameMod question Videogame

Is Game Mod a trope, and if so is it okay to link to one? Raph1361 added the trope to VideoGame.Yu Gi Oh Reshef Of Destruction a while ago, and Very Melon added a link to the mod.

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=VideoGame.YuGiOhReshefOfDestruction

Need help with some works pages Videogame

I have been contributing on some games pages of games i played, the problem is that i'm not very good at identifying tropes to list(and in one case knowing how to start a Characters page), so i'm asking if someone else has played these following games Defenders Of Ekron , Volgarr The Viking , Lost In Vivo and can help on developing these pages, fixing them of posible issues and ad some tropes to their lists.

What the heck is going on with this page? Videogame

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Characters/ThePainscreekKillings

Who's Alex?? why do we care??

Is there a trope where communicating is deadly to others? Videogame

I rememeber reading the 4chan article on the God-Emperor (link:https://1d4chan.org/wiki/God-Emperor_of_Mankind#.22Modern.22_Day) , where in a paragraph it said "It could be that he literally couldn't talk to anyone before that, considering that even Guilliman shuddered at the thought of the mental sand blasting that was speaking with the Emperor. It's possible the same communion might destroy a mortal, or kill the comatose Lion by accident. Perhaps the only thing stopping the Emperor from direct governance of the Imperium is his psychic voice delivering the equivalent of an Ordinatus blast every time he uses it, so he cannot chastise the incompetence of the High Lords for fear of killing them outright." So it made me think, is there's a trope that describes when a character is unable to communicate in any way for fear of killing others accidentally? Thank you for your time and I apologize for any incovinience that I may have caused.

Underwritten entries on character pages. Videogame

The page Fire Emblem Path Of Radiance Antagonists has character folders (Emil, Kotaff, Kayachey, Homasa, Kimmarsi) that are outright blank and don't have any tropes associated with them. Should they be cut?

Similarly, Fire Emblem Tellius Minor Radiant Dawn Antagonists has tons of entries that are just character names and one sentence descriptions, without any tropes.

Edited by mrbits

Why were all my Identity V pages cut? Videogame

I spent quite a while creating an Identity V tv tropes page (mainly https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Characters/IdentityV) and today I logged on to see the entire thing has been cut. Why?

Isn't the Splatoon series a case of Gray and Gray Morality? Videogame

I thought about the Splatoon series and one thing came to mind: On one side, you have the selfish Inklings who only care about style and sports while the Octolings are destructive and militarized. Because of the these two sides, isn't this case of Gray and Gray Morality?

Independent character page Videogame

Creator.Alice Soft has a Character page index, which list characters from the company's games (Rance Series, Evenicle), even though the games themselves don't have pages. This is not kosher, right?

Reads like fanfiction Videogame

JustForFun.Super Smash Bros Character Reveal Trailers is just a lot of crossover Super Smash Bros. fanfiction. Should TV Tropes really be a place for hosting fanfiction?

InternetBackdraft used as substitute for BrokenBase Videogame

On this YMMV page, I have removed a Broken Base entry under the grounds that the argument had not reached the required 6-month sustained heat to qualify. bigbossbalrog readded the exact same entry, word for word, under Internet Backdraft.

Why is this a thing? Why do people think that Internet Backdraft can be excused as "Broken Base, but more"?

Edited by AnoBakaDesu

Geometry Dash troping real-world players Videogame

A routine inspection of the Geometry Dash trope page shows several entries troping the community, user-generated content, and even individual players, going so as far to employ tropes such as Jerkass and Broken Pedestal. This is obviously completely unacceptable, but I'm not sure how to go about this.

Should the offending tropes be cut entirely, or rewritten and moved to more appropriate namespaces/tropes?

Edited by TrocyteV

Future Fight Icons Videogame

Do you have the fantastic four icons? I'm a fan. Thanks.

Mickeyfan93 Videogame

The troper named above un-did an attempt to remove some incorrectly-placed spoiler tags from Franchise.Carmen Sandiego. I already reported this in Violations if the Spoiler Policy, but I don't know if anyone read it there.

Edited by dsneybuf