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Should Nicknames and attacks be in quotation marks? Videogame
On the various Character pages for Characters.Trails Series user Mr Derpy Kid 2 has been removing quotations marks on varios pages, mostly in regards to nicknames and the names of the various attacks in the games. Here's one examples and here's another
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This got me wondering, should we have nicknames (such as Red Baron names) and attack names in quotations marks?
Is it safe to resurrect the Five Nights at Freddy's franchise page? Videogame
It is listed in the page creation for Franchise.Five Nights At Freddys that it was cut because of "misuse of franchise namespace". I am assuming that this is because there were only two mediums of video games and literature covered. Now that there is a film listed in the media list, that means there are now three mediums spanning the IP. Based on the rules of a franchise page being created, does that mean that the franchise page can safely be recreated, with VideoGame.Five Nights At Freddys becoming a redirect?
Trope where if the player and CPU both lose, it's treated as the player losing Videogame
The best example I currently have is from Video Game/Pokemon wherein if both the player's and opponent's final Pokémon faint on the same turn, the player blacks/whites out.
Inconsistently formatted Characters page Videogame
I am doing cleanup on Characters.Counter Side, and I'm wondering if the whole layout should be changed.
It has this odd division that is based partly on story (Coffin Company, Antagonists, various NPCs), partly on the game's own grouping of characters (the "Counter Cases"), and partly on gameplay. This results in a lot of duplicates where a folder says "See...". Connected to this is that every playable unit is given a character folder, but some like "Assault Trooper" or "PZH Mobile Gun" are not in any way characters from a story perspective. This results in a lot of stub folders with one or two tropes.
So what I'd like to ask is: where can I ask for consensus for doing drastic work that would involve creating new character pages, cutlisting some existing ones and removing a fair few names from them?
How to add a Heartwarming page Videogame
Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories is one of few KH games to lack a Heartwarming Moments subpage, despite having plenty of tender moments. However the “create new” option lacks a selection to add a Heartwarming page. So how would I go about add that?
User hiding trope names in spoiler tags Videogame
User Mr Derpy Kid 2 has made an edit on Characters.Trails Series Crossbell Special Support Section that basically hid some trope names in the spoiler brackets (they also spoilered some stuff despite the fact that the page says that events from the Crossbell duology are spoilers off, but that's a different matter).
I want to send a notifier, but not sire what to send since there no violation of spoiler notifier. So decided that an ATT might be the best option
Edited by Ayumi-chanOutlast Trials page Recreation Videogame
Seeing as the game is now in early access, is it safe to recreate the page now?
Possible Persistent Problem Editor? Videogame
Hello, recently I made an edit to the Trans Audience Interpretation Video Game subpage that deleted an entry calling Morag and Sena trans men on the basis that the entries were clearly written from the perspective of a single editor's theoretical interpretation that was not particularly commonplace among the fandom, which I later replaced with an entry talking about the fan interpretation of Morag as a trans woman, which is an extremely popular headcanon in the fandom. Admittedly that particular entry has been subject to some controversy from actual transphobes in the past, but I felt that as an LGBT person in the fandom, I could try to improve it to be a more accurate reflection of the fandom's opinions rather than just erase it altogether.
Cwallace 135 then PM'd me accusing me of vandalizing the page for removing it, while admitting that the entries were personal headcanons of theirs and not ones held by the rest of the fandom, and that they were hoping for the theory to become popular one day if they shared it, and believing that the purpose of the YMMV page is to share personal opinions with other fans and hopefully persuade them to it. I then explained to them that Audience Reaction pages are not for posting your own personal interpretation but for chronicling popular or significant opinions from the fanbase and that it was misuse. I also told them that if they so desperately want to post it, they can use the WMG or Review pages or share it on the forums, but their response to me was that they don't know what a forum is or how to find it, and that I can't do anything to stop them from putting the entry back on the page if they so desire, which would constitute an Edit War.
It should be noted that Cwallace 135 already has a very problematic editing history on this site involving a lot of shoehorning, low-quality trope entries, and flagrant misuse for the sake of promoting a work, as well as spam and failure to understand basic site etiquette, which combined with the previous admission, does not make me think they are editing in the best of faith.
Edit: They just messaged me that they have already been suspended in the past for a previous etiquette violation, and what's more, it seems like they have posted on the forums in the Edit Suspended thread, so either they are lying about not knowing what a forum is, or their command of English is so poor that they still don't know what basic site functionality is even after using it.
Edited by AlleyOopUndertale and spoiler tags Videogame
Well, given how there is just a large amount of spoilers pertaining to the plot and half of the characters being Walking Spoilers, combined with the Walking Spoiler page saying that the game is difficult to discuss without spoiling anything, I think it might be a better idea to just make it Spoilers Off, and have a spoiler warning on top of each page like with the Deltarune pages
Just recently put the Five-Man Band trope in the Cyberpunk 2077 character page for V Videogame
You can see this here.
And I chose to put the Five-Man Band trope for one character, because Cyberpunk 2077 doesn't give you companions, yet have you build and customize V into any one of these five-man band archetypes based on which attributes and skills you specialize them in.
So can Five-Man Band tropes apply to one character, especially if they're customizable in-terms of skill sets?
Scrappy Mechanic contained within The Scrappy’s time restriction? Videogame
Basically, title. I want to add Scrappy Mechanic to a page for a recent work - less than the six months typically required - but it’s not specifically listed as something that’s restricted. Only The Scrappy is. Are they both disallowed, or can I make the edit?
Is it worth splitting Pokémon remakes into their own pages? Videogame
I was just reading through Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire, and while it doesn't have a too-long warning, the ORAS folder is sizeable, and the remakes have significant story differences from the originals. I'm not sure about the other remakes, but Pokémon Let's Go, Pikachu! and Let's Go, Eevee! already have their own page.
A franchise having multiple {{Franchise Codifier}}s? Videogame
The description of Franchise Codifier says it's one work that cemented the style of a franchise, without being either the first or last. Yet the entries on Kirby, Sonic the Hedgehog, Super Mario, and Pokemon are lengthy lists of multiple entries that spell out minor, incremental improvements to the formula.
Should these be axed or what?
Custom title policy with regards to retronyms. Videogame
According to the How to Make a Custom Title page, this is permitted:
- Removing a "1" or equivalent from a work's retronym, to disambiguate the work page from its medium franchise page (e.g. "Work Name 1" to "Work Name", if a page for the Work Name franchise exists)
But I submitted a custom title with that intent, for VideoGame.Xenoblade Chronicles 1 and it seems to be rejected.
Has there been a policy change to push the retronym as the display title even if isn't the work's official title?
Edited by MacronNotesAvoiding Edit War over a fact Videogame
On Star Wars Jedi: Survivor, I put an entry for Zero-Effort Boss stating the location where it takes place. Tropers/20person edited the planet location, but in this case, their edit is wrong. Currently waiting on a follow-up response but their first one back to me, they posted an article that also lists the wrong planet. There's not a lot of info online for this and I didn't feel comfortable rebutting with a Reddit thread with 100s of upvotes stating that several articles have the wrong location for some reason.
I suppose I could just wait another day for a response back, but regardless, is it fine to edit the entry again? I'm planning to just remove reference to the planet entirely and just fully list out the sub-region so there's less room for debate on this.
EDIT: Sorry, don't know how to link to the troper's profile with the number in front.
Edited by YourIdeasShoehorning Tropes into Character Pages Videogame
Cwallace 135 has been adding several tropes to Characters.Xenoblade Chronicles 3 Ouroboros, but a lot of them either misuse the trope, belong on VideoGame.Xenoblade Chronicles 3, or rely on WMG. I don't know if they're trying to make Noah have his own page but they're going about it the wrong way.
They also expect other users to be quality control for their additions in their edit reasons.
I've sent them one notifier to ask them to stop shoehorning examples, but they're still at it. I wouldn't be surprised if other tropers have too. Is there anything I can try before having to escalate?
Edited by PresidentBritMoving this Character Page? Videogame
Starcraft II's Characters/StarcraftIICoOp page was first added to list all the Co Op Commanders from the afforementioned game mode. Later, someone else decided to make a full trope page for the mode at StarCraft II: Co-op Mode resulting in the two being completely delinked. Idk the actual process to request a move but yeah, can this get moved?
Vic Mignogna/Persona 3 Videogame
Asking this here as there's no evidence of any discussion of the matter on the YMMV.Persona 3 discussion page, nor had the matter been raised here previously.
Vic Mignogna is a voice actor who had allegations of sexual harrassment follow him for decades before finally coming to a head in 2019.
In Persona 3, Vic Mignogna voiced the character of Junpei Iori, who makes several lecherous comments towards numerous female characters over the course of the game. Additionally, the Portable version of the game included an alternate story with a Female Protagonist, where Junpei's behaviour is escalated to outright sexism and he is directly called "the poster boy for sexual harassment" by another character upon his introduction, whilst the player is also given the option to call him out on his pervy behaviour.
When one goes to edit YMMV.Persona 3, there is a note saying not to add any examples regarding Vic - however, as noted above, there is no discussion regarding this matter on the discussion page or in any previous ATT. When you check the edit history, it seems that this was decided by one user (Metaverse) and several of their Edit Reasons for the matter include insults towards people for adding "Funny Aneurysm" Moment entries regarding Junpei & Vic. Whilst they do point to Rule of Cautious Editing Judgment in two edit reasons, I cannot find any evidence that they ever brought this matter up in this thread so it seems that the entire matter has never actually been discussed.
What is the best way to proceed?
EDIT: Removal of red links.
Edited by ChrisDV
Console generations ending Videogame
A couple of years ago, I brought up a query
when someone changed the year ranges for the seventh and eighth console generations on Horrible.Video Game Generations Seventh Onwards. Specifically, they changed the range on Seventh Generation from 2004-2017 to 2004-2011 and Eighth Generation from 2011-present to 2011-2017. After the discussion in ATT, the user reverted the changes.
Today, an editor named Gentle Mart made the exact same edit, changing 2004-2017 to 2004-2011 and 2011-present to 2011-2017. Requesting permission for a revert.
I will be summoning Gentle Mart after posting this.