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Mixing up Headscratchers and Fridge pages. Anime
Our Oreimo article has several entries on the Fridge page that belong on Headscratchers, most obviously the first entry which is repeated on both. Would it be all right to move to Headscratchers anything that is phrased as a question, or has attracted explanations? (I know we have chronic problems of overlap between the two but this seems quite clear cut.)
Broken Serebii link Anime
The Pokémon anime entry on Kissing Discretion Shot is meant to link to a Serebii forum post, but it just links to the first page of the thread. Did Serebii remove the ability to link to specific posts for some reason? The link is https://forums.serebii.net/threads/pokA9mon-the-series-xy-pokA9mon-the-series-xy-z.654751/#post18312722
Duplicate Anime
I wound up making a duplicate page (Hitori Bocchi No Marumaru Seikatsu) for something I thought didn't already have a page (Hitoribocchi No OO Seikatsu).
Alphabetizing trope names Anime
Hello. I have a concern regarding the alphabetization of trope names. If I remember correctly, there are certain rules in Administrivia.How To Alphabetize Things: "ignore spaces and punctuation" (rule number two) and "Shorter entries alphabetize before longer entries containing them" (rule number three).
Regarding the examples in Nozel's entry on the Characters.Black Clover Clover Kingdom, the examples may look something like this.
- Jerkass Realization: He realizes what a jerk he has been to Noelle in Chapter 176 after she shows up to help her siblings.
- Jerk with a Heart of Gold: Despite his abusive behavoir towards Noelle, it becomes clear he deeply loves his sister, as shown when Noelle teams up with him to fight the Elves and protect their siblings.
Is this correct alphabetization? Thanks.
JoJo's Bizarre Adventure - Certain trope entries Anime
On the pages for the individual parts, should we leave the examples of certain tropes on the parts' pages or refer to the series-wide list? There may be a division between having everything in one place, but also risk undoing the franchise-to-part migration that intends to avert Signal-to-Noise Train Wreck.
Pages in question:
- YMMV.Jojos Bizarre Adventure (contains an index to the different parts)
- AdaptationDyeJob.Jojos Bizarre Adventure
- AwesomeMusic.Jojos Bizarre Adventure
- FamousLastWords.Jojos Bizarre Adventure
- HateSink.Jojos Bizarre Adventure
- HoYay.Jojos Bizarre Adventure
- Memes.Jojos Bizarre Adventure
- Monster.Jojos Bizarre Adventure (this could also further discourage people from adding entries to the works' pages without consulting the cleanup thread)
Black Clover Anime
Hello. On the Characters.Black Clover Main Characters page, I removed a Berserk Button entry regarding Asta as a misuse. When I inquired about it on the Is this an Example? thread, X Fllo pointed out to me the removal was considered valid.
However, Beerusuo Hakaioshin seems to disagree with the removal and, in an effort to defuse the situation, I've been engaging in a conversation with him about why the example isn't valid.
So far, the example has not been posted back yet, but can someone please look into this? Thanks.
Edited by gjjones
Need Clarification Anime
I'm still working on the Hybrid X Heart Magias Academy Ataraxia page and need clarification on the The Mirror Shows Your True Self trope.
According to the description, it seems to be strictly about mirrors only, but I've seen variants where magic caves and astral projection also reveal the true self. Hybrid x Heart's take on it uses the "Love Room" (essentially their version of a holodeck) to reflect each girl's inner kink.
So my question is: Does The Mirror Shows Your True Self allow for such variations, or is there another trope like it that does?
Edited by MiinU
Diamond No Ace/Ace Of The Diamond Anime
Can somebody redirect or merge from Diamond no Ace to Ace of the Diamond?
How Long a Title is Too Long? Anime
I was wondering about creating a page for a manga, but its title in both English and Japanese are so long I'm not sure we could do it. I recall there's a character limit to a title length somewhere in the sixties, but the English translated title is 70 while the Japanese title is 65 characters long.
At the same time, I tried just going to the page manually to see where/if it would cut off and it seemed fine, so is the limit no longer an issue?
The titles in question:
A Story About Treating A Female Knight Who Has Never Been Treated As A Woman As A Woman
Ima Made Ichido Mo Onna Atsukaisareta Koto Ga Nai Jokishi Wo Onna Atsukai Suru
Edited by sgamer82
Removal of response to WMG in Boruto Anime
Troper 1337Haxor removed a reply to one WMG theory on Boruto, arguing that there's not enough evidence to declare it Jossed.
The theory in question is that of Karin being the real mother of Sarada, now officially the theory has been jossed by both Word of God and an entire miniseries dedicated to disprove it, but some fans still claim that somehow, this is not true. As such, I don't object on it still being on WMG. But I believe that when further evidence appeared in the Anime against that theory, that should be noted and thus the Jossed reply shouldn't have been removed.
Thoughts?
EditWarring over FeministFantasy. Anime
Laevatein and otemple700 have been going back and forth since about February 1st over The Rising of the Shield Hero being put onto the Feminist Fantasy page. It started back with Otemple 700 adding the series to the page, and Laevatein removed it while admitting to have not watched the series but basing it off of articles criticizing the series. Otemple 700 re added it, and than Laevatein added to the entry mentioning real life feminist thoughts on the series, so Otemple 700 removed it and than Laevatein added this:
"Nope nope nope. If the show REALLY MUST be included, do not try to erase the criticism it receives from RL feminists."
Otemple 700 removed it saying: "I purposely made the entry neutral. please do not try add anything else on it."
I think Otemple 700 has a point that Laevatein is stirring the pot when the page in question is not about that issue, but this has been going on over the past two months.
Edited by keyblade333
Fruits Basket Anime
Hello. There's something very strange going on with Devoted2Nintendo's edits to the character sheet for Fruits Basket. History link is here.
Since they're a relatively new troper (their history is here), I'm guessing we may need to PM them about what they're doing at least. Thoughts?
WMG.FujikoFujio Anime
Does anyone else think that WMG.Fujiko Fujio reads less like a WMG page and more like an Unpublished Works page? Is this okay?
Possible edit war?? Maybe?? Anime
The Ambiguously Gay page for Anime & Manga first had an example from My Hero Academia for the character of Kirishima from troper Arcana4th in June 18th, 2016. Troper Golondrina might have deleted the example on March 17th, 2017? According to their reason, they were alphabetizing the page, so it's possible the example was deleted by mistake.
Kirishima was added again by troper shedemonlilith on July 1st, 2017. On the same day, troper oforiousmic deleted the example. This might be because it was already on the page; it's hard to tell. In any case, shedemonlilith re-added the example on September 24th, 2017.
Troper Tsareena deleted Kirishima on September 29th, 2017, but going by lukaSylvie's deletion and re-adding of a different example that also included Kirishima on July 12th, 2018, I think what happened is that perhaps Kirishima was on the page in two different places? There are two different examples about him worded differently that keep coming up in the history of the page. Troper The Lucky Cat later deleted Kirishima again on December 9th, 2018.
Most recently, Troper Neelh has re-added an example of Kirishima (and others) with the edit reason "added a bunch of bnha stuff back. guys, don't delete stuff just because you don't want to acknowledge lgbt people making headcanons about cartoon superheroes that are rooted in textual evidence" on March 4th, 2019.
Page here.
Apologies for the long post. I'm not sure what's going on here, but it seems like a combination of confusion and people disagreeing about Kirishima being Ambiguously Gay or not.
Edited by iamconstantine
English dub is standard, right? Anime
I ask because Contrafour made a bunch of changes to the quotes on the Cowboy Bebop characters page to what I believe is the English sub instead. Can we get those changes reverted?
Edit: Okay, so last official translation is standard? In that case that's still the dub. There were quite a few changes made, so if it could be reverted, that would save some work.
Edited by Unsung
Troper Displaying Frequent Misuse of Tropes Anime
EDIT: Newest reply by me is just a bump and a progress report.
I've been dithering on this for a while, but I think I need to report a troper. Everblaster has issues with frequently misusing tropes.
The issue has primarily been on Characters.Komi San Wa Komyushou Desu and Manga.Komi San Wa Komyushou Desu, where I've had to remove misuse of multiple tropes, such as Overwhelming Exception (treating it as one big exception to a rule vs a gag of "when did I ever do this besides all the other times I did this), Like Brother and Sister (ignoring that the trope applies when it exists in place of a romantic relationship) and Last Lousy Point (a video game exclusive trope).
I've looked at their edit history and nothing really jumped out as problematic otherwise, so I took it as just overzealous troping, something I'm not entirely innocent of, and just kept an eye out. I've sent notifiers for Murky Examples and, while I never got replies, my deletions were never contested. That's why I've mostly held off on this report.
Now, though, I came across an edit adding Lack of Empathy to Manga.Sleepy Princess In The Demon Castle that comes off as overly harsh, even for the Comedic Sociopath that is the main character. I've submitted that to the Is This an Example? thread, but in the meantime I think it's time I put this report on file so it can be determined what, if anything, needs doing.
Troper needing a tap on the shoulder? Anime
Kakashi 9029 is a recently created account whose only contribution to the wiki so far is... questionable, to say the least. Here's their edit history.
Personally, I smell a complainer with an agenda —or just a plain old vandal.
Sent them a Word Cruft notifier (because I honestly wasn't sure which one to use).
Edited by RoundRobin
problematic edits Anime
Troper RAHDRON added very complainy edits such as Eight Deadly Words to YMMV.Fullmetal Alchemist under the 2003 folder and other edits to YMMV.Fullmetal Alchemist The Conqueror Of Shamballa. Looking at their edit history they seem to not like the original anime and the followup movie. Judging by what they wrote, they shoehorned in a lot of complaints they made on DethroningMoment.Fullmetal Alchemist.
Edited by jjjj2
Mobile Fighter G Gundam YMMV Anime
So I just acquired a trivia that would fit into YMMV, but not exactly sure what example it belongs. Here's the trivia: Due to the fact that Master Asia is the representative of Neo Hong Kong, a majority of the story's setting is in Hong Kong. The director, Imagawa, even ordered writers in Hong Kong to come up with subtitles for the theme song that plays while the main characters are in Hong Kong. What should be an executive decision that would make the Hong Kong audiences beaming with pride became a form of Internet Backdraft because they thought the decision was an Executive Meddling made by JADE. The anger was subsided almost immediately when the Japanese Officials clarified that the inclusion of Cantonese songs is indeed a conscious decision made by the director.
Changing the title for a trope Anime
I am curious about the title of One Person, One Power can be changed due to recent changes to the description and newly added examples in the wake of me trying to launch a trope. The trope I wish to launch a trope called Unique Potency of the Many which I wanted to emphasize a trope in media of having unique superpowers, abilities, magic or weaponry that is unique to that person would have within the setting of the story like in most Shonen anime but there are examples outside of it. I wanted to emphasize the concept of the power and compared the One Person, One Power being something more a rule or limitation for a setting people with superpowers but then there is the lack of focus on how unique weaponry comes into play with it being about Superhero and Magic and Powers tropes. The user, 4tell0life4, has changed the original description of the trope, One Person, One Power, along with adding examples from the proposed Tropes that I wish to launch. If need be I am willing to discard my proposed Unique Potency of the Many draft if it is similar to the trope, One Person, One Power. If so, I can help with the title and laconic.
Edited by SeptimusHeap
Strike Witches YMMV page Anime
Just noticed that the broken base section of strike witches has a massive paragraph that, to my knowledge, belongs in base breaking character and also has a ton of natter. I genuinely think it should be cleaned up. The section I refer to is:
However as far as Hikari goes their has been some occasional disengagements of wither she is an actually good, fleshed out character in her own right that is distinct from Yoshika or if she's just "Yoshika 2.0" (the latter group seems to have mostly died off post release of Brave Witches and even even those few hold outs are as visible and seem to not have sufficient thesis to back such claims up). An additional point of contention with fans is wither Yoshika herself actually is or isn't a Mary Sue. Those who argue she isn't is due to the fact that while Yoshika's magic powers are of greater potential then average; they were unrefined and untrained and Yoshika was faced with sufficient challenges and had to work hard to improve her control of her magic and training as air infantry to become as competent and then as badass as the rest of the 501st, as well as the fact that nothing about Yoshika's magic was not outside of the the ordinary or expected of witches magic in the series. Those who claim she is a Mary Sue argue more to her idealistic personality and the fact her magic returned to her by the end of the movie; however the former tends to be a rather dubious argument and a counterargument to the latter is that witches are known to experience draining of their magical stamina whenever they exert themselves and their magic and thus require time to recuperate with food,water and rest and only older witches seem to experience various degrees of magical entropy or outright loss; and given that at the end of Season 2 Yoshika was still in her prime magically speaking and used a magical sword technique that she barely had enough proper sword training for and how no real magical training done for; it caused her to do the magical equivalent of pulling a muscle and needed a much longer period of time to recover the magical stamina, and likely didn't have a chance to test her magic recovery by the time movie came around until the very end in a serious crisis situation and feeling the inspired desire to fly with her friends again.
Edited by RAHDRON
Troper with editing issues Anime
aliastheabnormal has issues with their edits including grammar and sub-bullet point misuse.
Sent a notifier, but received no response.
Edited by Tenma-Yuuki
Specific One piece episode? Anime
Hi. I'm looking for a certain one piece episode that won't get out of my head. In the episode episode Chopper fell overboard. He was saved by Robin, she used her devil fruit powers to grab him before he fell into the sea (I thought for sure Luffy would streth and grab him, but Robin came to the the rescue). And they were in the air, maybe flying or falling, or maybe something like a seaking knocked them out of the sea. The thing is, I remember that scene really clearly, but I don't remember which episode it was. And I would really like to see that episode again. I also THINK Robin called Chopper "Chopper" and not "Doctor-san", so it might've taken place after enies lobby, maybe even after the timeskip. I cannot say. I also don't know if this scene was from an ordinary episode or a tv-special or a movie, but I suppose it was from the anime. Please, please, please help me find this!
Problem troper Anime
Figure Gunpla Fan has problems with their edits as seen in pages like YMMV.Love Live Sunshine
.
I sent them a notifier a long while back about their grammar, which they did acknowledge, but as far as I know, I've seen minimal (if any) improvement in that department. They have a plethora of other issues like ZCEs too.
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