Signature Song

Someone deleted the entries there. I'm planning to bring them back but I decided it's best if I put it here first.

On Thread-Approval Required Entries Videogame

Is it allowed to edit entries which need to be approved by a thread to fix typos or add wicks, or do proposals to edit such entries need to fly by the thread as well?

Debating about which name is original Live Action TV

So in Kamen Rider Saber character page about a new rider (Which I can't talk about her identify because it's a spoiler) named Kamen Rider Sabela or Szabla, some of them including Kamen Rider Wiki called her Sabela while other half the troper who edit Kamen Rider Sabela/Szabla character file call her Szabla because they have a same meaning. So I want you guys to decide which one is the original and what to do with it.

restoring the AssPull.WorldOfWarcraft page, or at least its entries? Videogame

So, the page was deleted, with the reason given that it was "Too short to qualify".

Is there a way to restore the page or, if that is impossible, to restore its entries so that they can be moved to the Video Games page?

link to fanfic parent IP in trope example entries?

I've been seeing several fanwork entries submitted to a TLP thread recently, all of a form similar to:

• In the Star Trek: Enterprise fanfic Janus [1], when Hoshi is turned into two Hoshis due to a Teleporter Accident, one of them faints in shock after seeing her double. Justified since the accident left them both in bad condition, and the one who passed out is physically unhealthier than the one who stayed awake.

• Is it typical to link to the "Inspiration" work page (Series.Star Trek Enterprise) in such an entry?
• Should it be italicized like a work entry?
• Should it just be an italicized title without Wiki Word linking?

Note: There is no current work page for the fic, so the external URL for that part makes sense to me.

Edit Reason

An entry on YMMV.Wanda Vision Episode 9 The Series Finale was removed with the edit reason "Removing complaining", but then added back (not by the original poster) with the edit reason "Re-adding Complaining". It was later removed again by another person for different reasons, but the reason for adding it back seems concerning.

Misplaced namespace?

WebOriginal.Virtual You Tuber

Consider that it's more of a genre (or even trope?), I don't think Web Original is the right namespace, is it? I mean, we have Main.Creepy Pasta, not WebOriginal.Creepy Pasta.

BTW, is it just me, or people are really insist on using Web Original namespace?

Is insulting general groups in reviews acceptable?

I have concerns regarding the user Codafett, where they left a negative review on Bumblebee. This wouldn't be a problem on its own, but in response to someone arguing against their review, they in response singlehandedly insulted the movie's entire viewerbase, calling them "manchildren and literal children". Feels like a real strong case of Opinion Myopia. But given that this insult is not directed at a specific person, I'd like to ask, is such behavior acceptable?

Links to Potentially Harmful Sites

I'm not sure if this is the proper place to post this, but I'm not sure where to do so. Every now and then I come across quotes in certain tropes that, while they technically might fit (some being at best corner cases), they are from very obscure fringe internet sources, often extremely religious in nature.

For example, the Cheerleader's Are Evil trope has only one quote in it's quote page which comes from a conservative preacher's typed sermon, with a link to the website which the sermon was posted (which looks like it's from Y2K). The Ethical Slut quote page on the other hand has several quotes, but a lot of them are from similar source's and sites, with most the quotes being only tangentially related to the trope in question. The worst offender I have noticed in recent days is a quote on Attention Whore that (while technically could fit the trope) links to a site where the writer of said quote peddles their religious conspiracy theories about the Illuminati.

I honestly haven't contributed much to the site and I don't want to step on any toes in case of rules I am unaware of. Should something be done in cases like this?

Certain quote moved to CashCowFranchise

About a few months ago, I suggested Simon Carey's review about FIFA 21 on where should it be placed in on the quotation page for It's the Same, Now It Sucks!. This was the quotation.

Seeing as EA copy and pasted last year’s FIFA onto Switch again this year – once again saying it has the same gameplay "without any new development or significant enhancements" on its store page for the full price of $49.99/£44.99 – I’ve decided to do the same and copy and paste my review of FIFA 20 on Switch below as my review of FIFA 21.

— Simon Carey on FIFA 21 Legacy Edition

Later on, I found out it was moved from the former to Cash Cow Franchise's quotation page. I also found out that this edit was made by a banned troper. Should I move it back or no?

Pacific Rim Characters

Editing the Characters page is giving the red warning that the page is too long and needs to be split, in preparing to do so I saw it had been split and reconsolidated. With a new show just debuting, seems like the page will only grow. Should it be split now?

Page Reversions

Hello,

Where should I ask for mods to revert pages? I'm asking because I'm looking at stuff on the Ban Evader Reversion Thread, and I found a page that only has edits from a ban evader once they showed up and hasn't been edited since they left. Should I ask on the moderator thread, the BERT thread, or the edit requests thread?

Stub page

Saving Blitzo

This page is not listed correctly and has only a brief undescriptive synopsis and incomplete stub for a description.

Johnnyfog. AGAIN.

I started to follow the Final Fantasy X-2 page because a certain notorious ban evader seems to have an unhealthy obsession with it. And I'm pretty certain new troper Safety Dance is paxbisonica/taylorswiftscat/johnnyfog again. They exhibit the same editing pattern of serial tweaking to replace one or two words with synonyms, and also edit similar pages (Final Fantasy, Babylon Five, assorted videogames)... Requesting an IP check. Will undo their edits after confirmation.

Crowner in need of more votes

The TRS thread for Instant Awesome: Just Add Dragons! has a crowner in which none of the options are in the 2:1 ratio. Right now, the thread is clocked; if there's still insufficient concensus by the 10th, the thread will be closed.

Please do not respond to this query. If you wish to talk about it, follow the link to the thread provided.

Inanimate objects on Character page? Film

Characters.MCU Others has a section with inanimate objects with the infinity stones,the infinity gauntlet, the darkhold and the Lightforce.

MCU: Captain America has the shield and MCU: Thor the hammers...

Is it kosher on this site?

Keeping pages separate with similar titles

So I'm thinking of making page for a Fan Fiction called Wayward but there is a comic with the same name (no relation). How would I go about making sure these two don't get lumped together.

Should note that I once made a page for a Fan Fiction before called Singularity and it got thrown on to a fanfic tap for a movie of the same name. Is it possible to get those separated.

It happened again.

YMMV.Wanda Vision, Spectre Agent, Designated Villain.

• Designated Villain: Director Hayward. The audience is asked to sympathize with Wanda after she enslaved and tortured a small town and is allowed to leave with only dirty looks while Hayward is arrested at the end despite only trying to stop her to save the townsfolk.

I'm going to go request a page lock now in the Locked Pages Thread. I'm done with humanity.

Closing off TLP draft and moving on to another

So I have this (Toy Transmutation) trope proposal that now I want locked/bombed/closed off because turns out Zerukin was working on a similar trope (Become a Real Toy) that they've now relinquished to me to take over. Would that be alright to do so now, do I need some sort of permission from higher ups to do it?

If this isn't the place to ask these things or if this question is unnecessary, do tell me please. This is the first time I'd be doing this kind of thing

If a trope is nuked, can you try to launch it again?

I've been thinking of trying again at launching the trope "Blind People Wear Sunglasses". However, I don't know if there's any rule against that sort of thing or not. So I thought I'd ask.

Troper commenting out YMMV they disagree with and being hostile while doing so.

A month ago, an example on YMMV.Fire Emblem Awakening was commented out by Ano Baka Desu with the reason being "No, I don't think so. Bringing to discussion tab." Based on this and what they said on the discussion page, the reason they commented out the example was only because they disagree with it, not because it was wrong. When they moved the discussion to a forum and I responded to them, they never responded back until someone else made an argument for them a few days later, and the posts they made there seemed aggressive.^note The discussion was moved back to the discussion page upon another troper's request. Between that and the weeks of inactivity on the discussion page, it's clear that Ano doesn't intend to continue this, that the only way to get the example resolved is to move it here, and that the only way to get the judgement of unbiased editors is to bring it here.

Just to be clear, my only claim is that Severa receives more hate than the villains—nothing more.

On this forum thread's first two pages, there are four posts hating on Severa there, Gangrel is only hated on in 2 posts, Walhart is only disliked in one—and that's more for his roll in the story, not his personality, and the poster in question said they didn't even hate him—and the rest of the villains aren't mentioned at all. This thread has 4 posts hating her and doesn't mention any Awakening villains, and in this thread, she's hated on in 4 posts, but Gangrel is only hated on in 1. If you need more proof than just this, the description on Jerks Are Worse Than Villains and every single example on the page explain and show why a mundane Alpha Bitch like Severa would attract a larger hatedom than Awakening's main antagonists. I have also encountered nothing that says the villains are hated more than Severa.

Back on the forum thread, another troper said that the example shouldn't be on the page because of popularity polls. The problems with that are as follows:

• No matter how high a character ranks in popularity polls, it doesn't prove that they don't have a lot of haters. Example: Charizard tops popularity polls every day, but he still has a massive hatedom.
• They don't make a character's haters visible at all.
• They don't prove that Gangrel, Walhart, and the Grimleal get more hate than Severa.
• It's entirely possible for people to hate a character for their reprehensible behavior but simultaneously like them for being well-written, which is why Love to Hate exists. Joffrey Baratheon and Pong Krell are good examples of characters being liked and hated by the exact same people.

They also felt that the example shouldn't be up unless the majority of people feel that way. The problems with that are as follows:

• YMMV isn't about the majority thinks—it's about what a significant number of people think, enough to be notable for us to document. If YMMV items should be removed on the grounds of being a Vocal Minority, we might as well remove every single example of Hype Backlash and It's Popular, Now It Sucks! and cut those tropes because those are about the opinions of vocal minorities by definition.
• There is no rule (yet) saying Jerks Are Worse Than Villains requires the majority to feel this way.
• It's censoring opinions you don't like.
• It doesn't disprove that Severa's hatedom is larger than the villains' hatedom.

Do you guys think the example is valid?

One more thing: this isn't the first time Ano Baka Desu left belligerent edit reasons, one of which was also them just saying "No." They also recently said that they "butted heads" with someone, which definitely could've been phrased more politely.

(Edit) war! Huh! Yeah! What is it good for?

Absolutely nothing! Say it agai—

..Ahem.

A few minutes ago somebody removed a shoehorned entry on the final episode of WandaVision. The one who'd posted it, Xenoslayer 2137, put it back. (Spoilers! Be warned!)

Also, they used bad indentation after being sent a notifier about that problem by me.