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Uploading Video Examples
Hi everyone. Long time reader, first time troper. There are some video examples I want to add to my favorite trope pages, but I don't know how. Could you give me some advice. Please and thank you! :)
Can someone help back this up
The trailer for Pikmin 4 dropped today, and there's some mild confusion about the groups name. I want to prevent an Edit War.
at 0:16 in the video you can hear the narrator clearly refer to them as "Rescue Core". However, the page keeps getting edit to be rescue corps. Can anyone fact check this? As far as can be known right now, there's no official word on if it's Core or Corps.
Recurring plagiarism issues on thread.
So uh Villainfan35817 seems to. Have serious issue with plagiarism on proposals over on the,complete monster proposal thread. Despite the fact he's been warned like a bunch of times and thumped. He just continues.
At this point he's done this three times. Despite being highlighted at the top of the tread to not do it and being warned each time.
Regarding the page for Every Frame A Pause
I brought this up on both the Critical Drinker and Real Life People cleanup threads, though I couldn't find a topic page about whether or not something is tropable.
The page for Podcast.Every Frame A Pause has a lot of issues and I'm not sure if the podcast itself is tropable. Ignoring the misused tropes I brought up on the latter cleanup thread, the podcast doesn't seem to have a narrative, the hosts aren't playing fictionalized or exaggerated versions of themselves, and the page itself is mostly troping the hosts' opinions and reactions to things.
I don't have any opinion on Every Frame A Pause beyond that its the infamous "the guys who held a 12 hour reaction stream because Jenny Nicholson hated Joker", so any input would be appreciated.Edited by SkylaNoivern
Why is the TLP rejecting my formatting for a quote?
I'm working on a TLP for Team Mercy vs Team Murder, and I found a quote that I think works well for it. The problem is that for some reason the text formatting trick of using two backslashes isn't just not working, it's not even applying. Every time I try to put 2 backslashes on the line I want to indent, one of the slashes just gets deleted, what's happening?
Four Point Scale
Four-Point Scale has this passage:
Think of just how hard it is to actually get lower than 60% on an assignment. Even if you hand in complete crap for your essay on the Punic Wars, it will be hard to get much lower than 60%. For you to get under 60%, you pretty much have to turn in something that goes beyond "not being good." Unless you forget to include the last 3 pages of your essay, and accuse Napoléon Bonaparte of engineering the Punic Wars to cause the September 11 attacks, all written in another language with ink made from cat urine, you probably did enough to avoid a score of less than 60%. Game developers that achieve this level of suck quickly go out of business, which in turns explains why games rarely ever get scores below 60%. This also explains why there are few games that get under 75%, as most game developers know that churning out sub-par products isn't good long-term business practice, and those who don't know it quickly learn the lesson.
This passage feels weird to me. Like, I don't know what kind of fucked up school whoever wrote this went to where they apparently didnt hand out fail marks unless you wrote utter nonsense.
Is "Does the Dog Die" tropable enough? Web Original
I had a look at doesthedogdie.com for the first time in years and I saw that it's expanded to include a whole load of potential triggers, not all of them necessarily related to death e.g. misgendering, vomiting, trypophobia etc. Examples of triggers are added to a work's page on the site by members. Since we deal with a lot of tropes covering negative topics such as Black Dude Dies First and Bury Your Gays, do you think this could warrant the site a page on this wiki or would that be too tasteless?
I have a question about the trope Memetic Loser. The trope was deleted from the YMMV page of the band 883 with the edit reason "calling real people "losers" is most likely a violation of ROCEJ". The Memetic Loser entry was fairly neutral, and I only explained why he was a meme. There are also TV tropes pages of other bands (The Beatles, Spice Girls, Destiny's Child) where one member of the group is referred to as a Memetic Loser in the YMMV pages. Also, the Memetic Loser page has a "Music" section, with Justin Bieber and others being mentioned.
So, is this trope allowed for real people or not?Edited by itamovies
There is an active crowner for Long Title at the Trope Repair Shop. Click here if you want to join the discussion.
Should Nicknames and attacks be in quotation marks? Videogame
On the various Character pages for Characters.Trails Series user Mr Derpy Kid 2 has been removing quotations marks on varios pages, mostly in regards to nicknames and the names of the various attacks in the games. Here's one examples and here's another.
This got me wondering, should we have nicknames (such as Red Baron names) and attack names in quotations marks?
Purposeful typo in wikiword request
Just a heads-up for whatever staff members are handling wikiword requests: VideoGame.Slayers X Terminal Aftermath Vengance Of The Slayer has an Inherited Illiteracy Title ("Vengance" instead of "Vengeance") meant as a joke about the poor literacy of the game's fictional "creator." The current custom title that adds the Colon Cancer also accidentally corrected the typo; I've submitted a request to "fix" it and figured I should give a heads up that it's an intentional mispelling.Edited by Dirtyblue929
Is it safe to resurrect the Five Nights at Freddy's franchise page? Videogame
It is listed in the page creation for Franchise.Five Nights At Freddys that it was cut because of "misuse of franchise namespace". I am assuming that this is because there were only two mediums of video games and literature covered. Now that there is a film listed in the media list, that means there are now three mediums spanning the IP. Based on the rules of a franchise page being created, does that mean that the franchise page can safely be recreated, with VideoGame.Five Nights At Freddys becoming a redirect?
Trope where if the player and CPU both lose, it's treated as the player losing Videogame
The best example I currently have is from Video Game/Pokemon wherein if both the player's and opponent's final Pokémon faint on the same turn, the player blacks/whites out.
Total Drama edit war
- El Juaco added this Catharsis Factor entry.
- studogcarter removes it.
- El Juaco adds back the entry with alternate wording but the same concept.
- studogcarter removes the Catharsis Factor entry again
Why people obsessed with the word "Egregious"?
I see it a lot on this website as a ZCE and it even has it's own page Egregious. Why most people love using that word? And should I delete the examples that use it as ZCE?Edited by Bubblepig
So on YMMV.Yellowjackets, harrietvanger added this Angst? What Angst? entry:
- None of the other girls except Shauna feel especially affected by Jackie's death, or the role they might have played in it. Natalie, for instance, never mentions fighting with Jackie over Travis.
Wary Hoglet removed it citing "Jackie had spent the last few months going out of her way to belittle and alienate everyone else in the group. It's not Angst? What Angst?, they sincerely just didn't really care at that point" Which I don't think really holds up considering even then they still saw someone die but I don't really care either way. However, then yesterday harrietvanger added this new Angst? What Angst? entry:
- Nobody has any issues around Jackie's death except Shauna; Mari even outright blames just Shauna, although every single character in the past timeline has a role in Jackie's death. This is exaggerated in that nobody seems to have a big problem with cannibalizing Jackie, which may be justifiable by the fact that they're starving, but the indifference about her death from even sympathetic characters like Natalie is jarring, and that Travis lost his virginity to Jackie mere hours before her death is an even bigger ignored story.
Which is the basic entry in spirit if not exact words. This wasnt discussed anywhere from what I can tell and they left no edit reason. Is this edit warring?
I was wondering if there is any help on remaking Write The Next Bionicle article from "So You Want To" Series. I admit though, it was my first time doing an article on TV Tropes, so I wish to make it right. I might even do one for Ninjago.
Can't Unhear it Misuse?
Hello, I saw this listed under the Western Animation folder for Can't Un-Hear It
- Thanks to a 4chan post, it's become memetic that any picture of Farnsworth with the caption "Good news, everyone!" will cause the viewer to read it in his voice.
- Same thing with the Old Spice Guy.
- One imageboard-made Drinking Game has one card titled "Yay.", with a picture of Fluttershy. The text: if you read the card's title with Fluttershy's voice, finish your drink.
- Oh nooo, y'all just read this in my voice.◊
- Some of the earliest imageboard examples of this involve Boxy Brown, a cardboard box inanimate object from Aqua Teen Hunger Force.
I think it's misuse since it's not referring to specific actors playing specific characters (also characters like Farnsworth really only has 1 voice actor), but was unsure. (Also, 4chan and Old Spice are not Western Animation)
Overzealous deletions or not?
There's been a couple of Expy deletions that seem questionable. For example:
However, looking at the recent posts in the Expy Cleanup thread, there seems to be no prior discussion to check if the examples are indeed valid or not. Is this a case of overzealous deletions? Benefit of the doubt may say that some examples fit other tropes better than Expy, but it seems like they just acted on their own.
Some of the Genshin Expy examples have a trend of the developer (miHoYo) basing the name, appearance, traits and even hiring the same voice actors of an older character into their newer copy, even if it's in a different game (i.e. Raiden Mei to Raiden Ei and Yae Sakura to Yae Miko). Yes, the devs have been doing this for some of their characters for a long time and even up to this day, and if you're familiar with the works involved, they're unambiguous. I think at least some deleted examples are still valid, but the fact that it was not discussed in the thread raises some eyebrows.
In fact, if you know DMC behind-the-scenes, there's another supplementary material (3142 Graphic Arts artbook page 200) where a staff mentioned that Dante was imagined as Cobra when they made his fighting motions with a certain weapon.
I just assume that the entire paragraph was deleted because other tropers added a bunch of anime and manga characters in comparison, which does make the Expy example invalid, but the Cobra one should've at least been kept because it's been confirmed.
It makes one wonder if the Expy Cleanup thread is deleting some Expy examples even if they can actually be valid, especially the second scenario I mentioned above. It really seems like clean-up efforts like these are best handled by tropers who are more familiar with the works.
I remember there's an Improper TRS Cleanup thread which pointed out that some tropers are overzealously deleting things, though that thread seems to be inactive for a while now, so I'll ask here in ATT instead.Edited by DanteVin