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Lermis Since: Nov, 2018
5th Mar, 2021 11:47:42 PM

Um... NO? Especially since they're not characters?

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Piterpicher (Series 2)
6th Mar, 2021 12:11:53 AM

You already brought this up almost two years ago. I would normally say you should give it up, but you do have a point as they are indeed not characters (though I don't really think deleting them is necessary either).

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Irene Since: Aug, 2012
6th Mar, 2021 12:46:14 AM

They clearly don't have characterization at all(even mooks have more at times, though those often do not get character pages either unless they're a more specific one). Species sometimes do(I know there's been a debate on what should count for those. I don't remember the exact ruling on that).

These, that said, aren't even close to characters, by any definition. They shouldn't be on those pages. Like, anything of note has somewhere else they can go. This also sounds like some of these particular type of objects might be poor examples as well.

SebastianGray (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
6th Mar, 2021 12:55:31 AM

^ I feel obliged to point out that there is still zero consensuses about limiting character pages to just characterisation tropes.

Having said that, however, I have been a bit iffy about troping things like object on character pages unless they are specifically tied to a single character/group/etc.

The problem seems to be that many people don't want to trawl through the alphabetised trope list on the Work page to find out every trope that applies to a specific thing that they are interested in and want them all collected in one place. As such I have often thought of suggesting the creation of location, item, faction, etc. subpages for such things and keeping character pages for every trope applying solely to specific named characters.

WarJay77 (Troper Knight)
6th Mar, 2021 12:58:29 AM

^ Well, the consensus is that only characterization tropes count. The issue is that nobody knows what a "characterization trope" is.

I can tell you what it's not though, and it's not inanimate objects.

Edited by WarJay77 Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure Pureness
SebastianGray (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
6th Mar, 2021 01:14:55 AM

^ Well characterisation trope (tropes about a character's characterisation) vs. character tropes (any trope that applies to the character) anyway but that is beside the point.

I do think a specific Objects subpage could be a good compromise in this particular situation.

Silverblade2 Since: Jan, 2013
6th Mar, 2021 01:19:45 AM

@piterpitcher My bad i forgot that i already brought it up :/

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WarJay77 (Troper Knight)
6th Mar, 2021 02:20:10 AM

^ Eh...I'm not sure.

My philosophy when it comes to character pages is that they're only warranted when there's enough character tropes on the work page to justify a split. They should never exist just to exist.

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WarJay77 (Troper Knight)
6th Mar, 2021 02:20:10 AM

^ Eh...I'm not sure.

My philosophy when it comes to character pages is that they're only warranted when there's enough character tropes on the work page to justify a split. They should never exist just to exist.

Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure Pureness
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