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resolved TRS crowner
There is an active crowner for He Panned It, Now He Sucks! at the Trope Repair Shop. Click here if you want to join the discussion.
resolved Why is Tzadikim Nistarim listed in JustForFun?
Tzadikim Nistarim strikes me as a fairly regular, non-typically-comedic trope. So... why? Did I come late to the joke or something?
resolved Editor using discussion pages as a forum
Itsnouse19518505268 has left a lot of comments on discussion pages, hardly any of which have to do with editing the pages, they are mostly giving their opinion on entries found on these pages.
I don't know if this breaks any rules, so I haven't contacted them about it, but it is taking away from these page's purpose.
resolved UPDATE work pages with no examples
My apologies, but I accidentally locked the original ATT: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/query.php?parent_id=133619&type=att
Turns out, Toy Storyin Space Play Set DID respond to my notifier when I sent it on the same day, but for whatever reason I did not receive a notification. This was on the 21st. I saw it just now.
Aside from that sudden notification issue, their reply was not helpful at all. Instead of telling me anything specific, they said that it's "somehow their fault". I'm pretty sure quoting the full line is against the rules, but anyway they made no reference to correcting anything in particular.
Now what?
Edited by Lermisresolved Is WetTShirtContest a unisex or gendered trope?
The description of the main Wet T-Shirt Contest trope page doesn't list it as a gendered trope. However, the Playing With page for Wet T-Shirt Contest has a Gender-Inverted entry that lists men being in the contest, suggesting that the trope is Always Female, and some examples have followed suit (I think) by listing male examples as "inverted".
I've been reviewing a potential discussed example and would like to ask for clarification for whether the trope is gendered, especially since its Super-Trope of Sexy Soaked Shirt is unisex; it's because if the trope is unisex, then I think the Playing With page and the examples that follow its listing conventions should be edited to reflect that.
resolved work pages with no examples
Yesterday Toy Storyin Space Play Set created two work pages with zero examples: Fanfic.A Ghostto Remember You By and Fanfic.TONIGHT Restart From This Night.
I sent them a notifier yesterday that said that work pages need to have examples, and that the name for the first fic should be Fanfic.A Ghost To Remember You By as opposed to what it is now.
They fixed the ghost thing, but somehow it still reads as "A Ghostto Remember You By" in the page, and they haven't added any examples. In addition, they added the fics to a few indexes already.
I checked the rest of their edit history and it seems fine (no issues pop up) so asking ATT may be premature, but I've never seen anyone create a work page with NO examples whatsoever.
resolved Nononsensecapeesh
...Is a troper that keeps violating our editing policies, even after notifiers (and one attempt to reach out on a thread).
Primarily, the notifiers have been about ZCE and indentation. And yet, it has not made a difference, at least when it comes to proper example context (indentation they seem to have gotten a grasp on). But the issues run deeper than this. In the past few days alone, their examples also contain:
- Speculation and arguable examples, especially when it comes to the balloon man.
- Some slightly awkward grammar
- Misplaced examples
- General trope misuse.
The time I tried to ping them to a thread was over a unilateral and improperly split character's page, which they also never cleaned or indexed. They ignored my attempt to reach out. It's also worth noting that my most recent notifiers to them were in March.
resolved YMMV pages for franchises with a list of YMMV pages for other works. Are such lists necessary?
I've noticed that there are several YMMV pages for franchises that contain a list containing pages to other works in the franchise, such as YMMV.Batman, YMMV.Marvel Cinematic Universe, YMMV.Superman, YMMV.Puyo Puyo, etc. However, I question the need for such lists. A part of me can understand that maybe they provide a useful link to YMMV tropes for specific works, but on the other hand, I feel all they really do is clutter up the page. Especially with long-running franchises like Batman and Superman, who have so many works that their franchise pages are just indexes for those works. But what do you think?
Edited by Tylerbear12resolved Suggesting new features?
Where do we go to suggest new changes and features for the site? I’m interested in proposing a “No trailer citation” notifier.
resolved The Ron the Death Eater example from YMMV/SonicX Anime
I wanted to make this discussion because I saw that the Ron the Death Eater example for Chris Thorndyke was deleted. Here it is.
- Ron the Death Eater: Chris Thorndyke is often viewed by fans as a selfish, spoiled brat, who's life isn't all that bad as he claims it is, and being more obsessive over Sonic than Amy is. However, Chris isn't really a bad kid. His whiny moments like in episode 49 were due to his fear of loneliness, which kept him from handling the situation of Sonic returning to his world more positively, especially since the news sprung upon him unexpectedly and was pretty impactful for him, and he was acting more traumatic and in denial than like a spoiled brat. His clinginess to Sonic and his fear of loneliness is due to being neglected by his parents since he was little, as he had to spend most of his time alone inside his huge and empty mansion without friends or siblings, making his life feel very empty and he didn't want to lose the one person who filled that void with his friendship and adventures. This also applies to when Chris shut down the portal to stop Sonic from going back to his world. Chris didn't shut down the portal because he's a spoiled brat. He did it because his emotions and fears got the best of him, that he made a reckless choice without thinking clearly.
I actually agree with this example, but it was deleted because apparently it was added by a ban evader. I am for adding it back because although Chris is not my favorite character of this show (due to some issues with how he was written), I do agree that fans do tend to demonize this kid.
resolved Spoiler warning best practise? Live Action TV
Hi all,
Given that some characters’ entries for Shōgun (2024) are very heavily blanked out with spoiler tags, does it make more sense to simply add a bold spoiler warning at the top of the page? Is that a free action when pages are looking a bit Swiss cheese-ish? (I asked in the page's Discussion thread a couple of weeks ago, but no one has replied).
Edited by lexiiresolved Did PlayingWith/IHitYouYouHitTheGround got cut?
One or two days ago, I submitted I Hit You You Hit The Ground for the Cut List as the examples listed are very charisy for a Playing With page; and since I thought the main page also was written somewhat badly and might not be a trope at all, I thought it'd be better to just cut the thing now instead to repair a Playing With page that shouldn't exist.
But I never got any notifications after that. Did it got cut after all? Last time I got a notification was when my request to cut Luckily, My Shield Will Protect Me was refused, so does that mean that if it's accepted, it doesn't send a notification?
P.S.: Now I know.
resolved Yukianesa
Over the course of my TVT history since 2017, I have sent a total of 13 Issue Helpers to Yukianesa, of which 8 pertained example indentation. The most recent one was in February this year. Unfortunately, on LGBTFanbase.Video Games, they've added two sub-bulleted entries without adjusting the original entry (which pertains Stardew Valley) which was originally the only example and thus was at first-bullet level.
I don't think sending them another notifier will do any difference, considering that they've done the same kind of infraction during at least 7 years, without addressing the issue.
EDIT: Fixed an error with italics
Edited by MyFinalEditsresolved Spam?
Today, an image links page was created, and it has no image links or images, just a weird "short story" with a bunch of emojis. I've already cutlisted it, but what spurred my decision to bring it up is that I've just noticed how it ends with a link to some website called "utsavatime.com"...which matches the handle of the troper who added it. As such, I'm reporting it for potential spam.
I'm trying to figure out where to crosswick an entry for The Scum Villain's Self-Saving System: Ren Zha Fanpai Zijiu Xitong to when it pertains specifically to the donghua. Should it still go under the Literature folder on the trope page or under Asian Animation?
Edited by Zaperex