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  • 8.8: IGN's review of Sky, as a result of claiming that it was just a rehash of Time/Darkness, bashing on the graphics and sounds, and the fact that the reviewer had only played up to Apple Woods.
  • Alternate Character Interpretation: Fans consistently debate on whether or not Guildmaster Wigglytuff's off-kilter, laid back ways are him deliberately concealing how much he really knows or if he's just a Genius Ditz with moments of Crouching Moron, Hidden Badass.
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  • Anticlimax Boss: Unless you're really playing with the worst possible duo to fight that boss, Kabutops and the Omastar brothers in the Brine Cave. They're dramatically hyped-up in-story as "vicious Pokemon" that Chatot and Wigglytuff barely managed to survive encountering in the past. They also take out Team Skull effortlessly. They all happen to be Rock/Water types, though, so if you or the partner is a Grass type, the battle is pathetically easy. Even some Fire type starters can win the battle without much difficulty, especially if they're able to exploit the Rock type of the enemies, for example, with Fighting-type moves (Focus Punch can deal massive damage to them, if not one-hit-kill the Omastar brothers). And then there is Discharge with Pikachu and Shinx
  • Big-Lipped Alligator Moment: RANDOM LUDICOLO DANCE SEQUENCE!
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  • Complete Monster: Darkrai serves as the true Big Bad. He was responsible for the collapsing of Temporal Tower that lead to the Bad Future, tortures an innocent child with violent nightmares to lure out the Player Character and their partner, and makes several attempts to assassinate them so he can try his plans again. One of his most heinous acts involves trying to have the heroes willingly commit suicide by tricking them into thinking their existence is threatening the space-time continuum due to time travel shenanigans. A Manipulative Bastard par excellence, he has no regrets for his crimes and wishes nothing more than the complete and utter destruction of the world, just so he can rule the tattered remains.
  • Critical Dissonance: Critics gave it a tepid-at-best reception. Fans on the other hand have given it Cult Classic status for its powerful and moving story, and it is widely considered to be among the best Pokémon spinoffs.
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  • Cult Classic: Due mainly to its narrative and a soundtrack brimming with great music, this side-game has almost as many fans as any entry of the main Pokémon series, and it still remains a popular and well-regarded game even years after its debut—if anything, after some Contested Sequels in both the main franchise and the Mystery Dungeon subseries, it's gotten more popular with time. Sky in particular is well-regarded for adding in the Special Episodes, increasing the number of playable Pokemon, and letting players experience the soundtrack whenever they want with the Sky Jukebox.
  • Demonic Spiders:
    • Purugly in the Hidden Land. They have Fury Swipes, which is already annoying when you consider multi-strike moves are Game Breakers, and Swagger, a confusion-inducing move that boosts your attack, meaning you're likely to miss or hit your allies. You better learn some Fighting Type move if you want to make things easier, or else...
    • Pretty much ANYTHING in Temporal Spire. Specifically, the Porygon-Z who have Discharge which will hit you no matter where you are for really high damage which you likely won't be resistant to, and use Agility to boost the speed of every enemy in the room, meaning a Mighty Glacier like Salamence will now hit twice as fast. Salamence and Metagross also hit like trucks and if you're weak to Psychic, Dragon, Steel, or Fighting, you'll die really quickly to Bullet Punch, Psychic, Dragon Claw, and Meteor Mash respectively.
  • Even Better Sequel:
    • Although both Explorers and Rescue Team were received about the same by critics (that is, lukewarm), most fans agree that Explorers has a better storyline and character development. Rescue Team had a decent, if slightly unoriginal premise of natural disasters and a rather bland supporting cast. Then Explorers arrived, with the player's status as a human and their own character being far more important, a more fleshed-out and unique supporting cast, a wider variety of Pokémon as prominent characters even with the expected focus on Sinnoh Pokémon, and considerably better game mechanics.
    • Doubly so for the Sky version, which averts the One Game for the Price of Two elements from Time and Darkness, brings more starter Pokémon, adds a handful of side-stories for more character depth, and introduced a few aspects that, much to the chagrin of the fanbase, weren't used again in future sequels, like the Spinda Bar and the Lookalike items.
  • Evil Is Cool:
    • Primal/Dark Dialga is widely remembered among the fanbase, particularly after the release of Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire, which introduced Primal Groudon and Kyogre (Primal in both versions, as oppose to English only), as this opened up the thought of the cover legends of the next set of remakes in line - the Sinnoh games - having the Primal forms from this game.note 
    • Darkrai. In contrast to the misunderstood Noble Demon from The Rise of Darkrai, this Darkrai is the true Big Bad and a Card-Carrying Villain Crazy-Prepared Magnificent Bastard.
  • Fan-Preferred Couple:
  • Fridge Horror: When you first meet her, Celebi makes an off-hand comment about how Grovyle needs to hurry up because she's tired of being stuck in such a dreary world. Once you learn that Grovyle will be effectively erasing their existence, her words take on a borderline suicidal undertone.
  • Fridge Logic: In a world where the sun never shines, the water doesn't flow and the seasons are non-existent, how do the native Pokemon stay alive when their food sources are frozen in time and thus can't grow anything?
    • Maybe Celebi uses the Passage of Time to travel to the past and get whatever food and water they need.
    • Apples, berries, and seeds randomly generate in the future dungeons just as well as they do in the past dungeons. Whether or not this is some kind of weird Gameplay and Story Segregation may be up to interpretation, though.
    • The randomly generated food in dungeons would give inhabitants of the Bad Future some things to eat, but since food still isn't quite plentiful, it's very likely that starvation is an issue for many Pokemon. Notice that in the dungeons in the future, nearly 1/3 of the encountered enemy species are Ghost-type...
  • Good Bad Bugs: Occasionally, when winning big at the Recycle Shop, the prize is a higher tier ticket. You can receive and redeem it even if the shop doesn't offer the tier yet.
  • He's Just Hiding!: A fair portion of the fandom's reaction to Grovyle's disappearance near the end of the main arc. What actually happened to him was later revealed in Special Episode 5 of Explorers of Sky.
  • Harsher in Hindsight: Darkrai revealing how the player and Grovyle were separated. Darkrai attacked them returning to the past, and the player was separated after they shielded Grovyle from the attack. The scene made harsher is Grovyle's Heroic Sacrifice against Dusknoir, where he similarly shields the player and then is forced to separate himself permanently from his partner. Hammering the point home is both characters using the same boss theme.
  • Hilarious in Hindsight:
    • Wigglytuff proves his Crouching Moron, Hidden Badass credentials by defeating Team Skull in an off-screen battle. It becomes even more impressive as of Pokémon X and Y, which makes Wigglytuff a Fairy-type and thus particularly weak against the Poison-type attacks that constitute Team Skull's primary offense.
    • In Sky, most evolutionary families get a 3-star exclusive item that, when in the inventory, has the Pokemon healed by damaging moves of a certain type, instead of taking damage. Said type is usually one that would deal super effective damage otherwise, but there are exceptions. One of such is the Bronzor evolutionary family, who get healed by Ghost-type moves, which dealt neutral damage to themnote . Fast-forward into Generation VI, and now Bronzor and Bronzong are indeed weak to Ghost-type moves thanks to the changes in the type chart.
    • Two localization-only examples. Koffing, Zubat and Skuntank's team was named "Team Skull" in the English version, which ended up being the name of the villainous team in Pokémon Sun and Moon. Similarly, "Primal Dialga" (who was called Dark Dialga in Japan) became this after the remakes of Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire introduced Primal Reversion.
  • Love to Hate: Darkrai is quite well liked by the fandom. Helps that he's both cool as well as one of the franchises' most evil villains.
  • Magnificent Bastard:
    • Dusknoir is Primal Dialga's right-hand man who pursues the player and Grovyle into the past. He poses as a friendly explorer while using his knowledge of the future in order to pick up information. He successfully deceives Treasure Town into helping him capture Grovyle, thereby dooming the future to paralysis, and even drags the amnesic player back to the future as a precaution. Once Grovyle, the player, and their partner escape, Dusknoir allows them to find Celebi, intending to capture her once she reveals herself. He brings along Primal Dialga to accompany him and the party is barely able to escape him. Despite his ruined reputation, he lies in wait in the past and forces Grovyle to sacrifice himself by dragging them both back to the future. Once they arrive in the future, he earns Grovyle's trust and lures him into a trap in an attempt to hijack his body. If it wasn't for the conscience he'd developed convincing him otherwise; Dusknoir's plan would gone off flawlessly.
    • Darkrai is the true mastermind behind the destruction of Temporal Tower, which he sabotaged so he could create a world of darkness to rule. When Grovyle and the player traveled back in time to stop it, Darkrai attacked them within the Passage of Time. This separated the two, as well as giving the player amnesia and transforming them into a Pokémon. After Temporal Tower is saved, Darkrai decided to distort space in order to create a world of eternal nightmares. Disguising himself as Cresselia, Darkrai blamed the player and their partner for the distortions, and convinced Palkia that their deaths would restore everything back to normal. Once his ruse was revealed, he retreats to Dark Crater and puts the player in an illusion to convince them to join him. When that fails, he reveals an army of six other Pokémon to help him kill the player. As a final back-up plan, he has a dimensional hole ready for a quick getaway, only being stopped by the timely arrival of Palkia.
  • Memetic Badass: Drifloon line is regarded as gods due to their high viability for Lv. 1 dungeons, thanks to Unburden.
  • Memetic Molester:
    • Drowzee was this in the main series thanks to its Pokédex entries; the mission where you have to rescue a child from him only escalated his status as one.
    • According to Bidoof's Diary, Croagunk sneaks into the men's bedroom and watches Bidoof sleep while smiling creepily.
  • Never Live It Down: Chatot and the "Perfect Apple Incident," anyone?
  • One True Threesome: Celebi/Grovyle/Dusknoir is a favorite in some circles.
  • Paranoia Fuel: A conversation with your partner about killing yourselves ends abruptly as the two of you go to sleep. When you wake up, your partner's bed is empty.
  • Player Punch: The ending of Special Episode 2 in Sky, Igglybuff the Prodigy. Igglybuff has befriended his loyal, trustworthy master (a retired explorer), they've explored and found heaps of treasure. Then, after they beat a remote dungeon, Igglybuff's friends and parents turn up to reveal that Igglybuff's mentor, Armaldo, is actually a B-rank outlaw. You can practically see Igglybuff's world ending as Armaldo's taken into police custody. Can be considered a Bittersweet Ending as well, due to Armaldo's changes in his behavior hinting that he legitimately wants to clean his slate at the end, after spending so much time with a child like Igglybuff. The ending of the chapter all but spells it out.
  • Rescued from the Scrappy Heap: Most of Chatot's detractors (especially over the Perfect Apple incident) were rather impressed by his actions in the Brine Cave. The Manaphy storyline (in which Chatot generally acted as the competent voice of reason) helped things even further.
  • The Scrappy:
  • Scrappy Level: Who in the hell thought the Aegis Cave challenge was a good idea? At some point in the after the end, your team will be required to go to a dungeon called Aegis Cave. To get through, you must solve three word puzzles by spelling out ICE, STEEL, and ROCK. In order to do this, you must go through each dungeon and fight multiple Unown who might drop a corresponding letter stone for you to spell these words with. Might. You will inevitably have to go through each of these dungeons multiple times to get the correct letters. And this challenge is mandatory. Best part? If you want to go back to recruit the legendary golems, you have to spell out the words all over again. And you might not even recruit them on the first try. However, you can use an online Wonder Mail Generator to get codes for jobs that will get these items. It's still annoying, but better then what you have to do otherwise.
  • Sequel Displacement: While not as bad as some examples of this trope, some believe that Explorers of Time/Darkness/Sky were the originals and don't know about Red/Blue Rescue Team or just ignore them.
  • Signature Scene: The player character's death.
    • The reveal of the Bad Future and Dusknoir's betrayal is one of, if not the most shocking twist in the franchise.
  • Tear Jerker: The ending cutscene. All of it. Your character disappears before your partner's eyes, leaving them staggering towards the Rainbow Stoneship alone. Several months later, they find themselves on the very beach where they first met you...and end up breaking down in tears after remembering all the adventures you had.
  • That One Boss:
    • Final Boss Primal Dialga is notorious for being one of the hardest final bosses in the series. His typing is very strong defensively (Dragon/Steel is only weak to Fighting or Ground, which are moves that are rather hard to come by unless you're Riolu); at Level 48, he's liable to be several levels higher than you; he packs a ton of HP and decently-powerful attacks; and he has the Intimidator IQ Skill, which has a chance to cause your Pokemon's close-ranged attacks to fail. But, worst of all, he has Roar of Time, a deceptively accurate move that deals absolutely ludicrous damage and hits the whole map, meaning he can dish out One-Hit Kill attacks before you can even approach him. The upside to this is that he will leave himself vulnerable for the next turn, but expect him to spam it nearly every turn he can. You better hope you brought a ton of consumables and Reviver Seeds, because if you lose you have to clear Temporal Tower again.
    • Palkia in the postgame can be troublesome if he feels like spamming Spacial Rend, which, like Roar of Time, hits the whole map, deals obnoxiously high damage, and, being a Dragon-type move, is resisted only by Steel-types. Unlike Dialga's Roar of Time, however, he doesn't have to spend a turn recharging. Oh, plus he's reasonably bulky, and, due to his typing, he's only weak to Dragon (Fairies weren't introduced yet), making it nearly impossible to hit him for super effective damage.
    • Darkrai as the True Final Boss. Being the scumbag he is, he traps you in a seven-versus-three battle. While his team consists of himself and 6 fully-evolved Pokemon, you, on the other hand, have to deal with Cresselia, who is usually useless, has horrendous AI, and has a weakness to Darkrai, meaning that she will usually run into battle and get herself knocked out in less than three turns. The main way to mitigate this is either to stock up on Reviver Seeds or take out Darkrai as soon as possible, since Cresselia can safely tank the majority of the other minions. This, by the way, is easier said than done.
  • That One Level:
    • Temporal Tower (and, by extension, Temporal Spire) may perhaps hold one of the most punishing difficulty spikes in recent years, thanks to a myriad of reasons. The penultimate stage of the main story is long as hell and filled to the brim with deadly traps and enemies (most infamously, Porygon's evolutionary line, which will constantly spam Agility and Discharge). Not to mention it only allows you and your partner in, meaning if either one of the two are any sort of weak to the many traps and strong Pokemon in the dungeon, then grinding for experience or items will be required until a winning combination has been made.
    • Any of the Legendary dungeons, i.e. Bottomless Ocean, Giant Volcano, etc.
    • Mt. Bristle can be a bit of a challenge for the sole reason that you're not quite strong yet. It's not helped by the fact that Drowzee might be a bit of an Early-Bird Boss, if you get unlucky and his Forewarn ability activates a lot or if you or your partner are weak to Psychic attacks.
    • Treeshroud Forest. It's a very long forest with a variety of Pokemon types (mostly psychic) that hit HARD. And while it's not as long as Hidden Land or Temporal Tower, it's still somewhat long with 20 floors... and there's no Kanghastan Rock in the middle of it. You have to brave 20 floors of nonstop barrages of Pokemon and traps to get to the end. One can only hope that they still have some items left in their Kanghastan storage rock at the beginning of the forest, as they had just had the standard chain of dungeons without a visit to the Hubworld that they tend to have in the PMD series.
    • Dark Crater. Even if you didn't have to escort's the Final Dungeon. It's long, the Pokémon are powerful, and at this stage type advantage is more needed than ever.
    • Quicksand Cave can be brutal for the first time through. Just like Northern Desert, there are two food sources in the dungeon, one of which being Grimy Food. Sandstorms regularly appear on certain floors, which allows Sandslash to avoid most of your moves because of Sand Veil. The other half of the dungeon, Quicksand Pit, is even worse, as past a certain points, Hippopotas start to show up, which means guaranteed sandstorms on each floor. And then at the end, you have to fight Mesprit, who despite being only level 18, hits surprisingly hard with her psychic type moves, which can also end up hitting even harder if you or your partner are Fighting- or Grass-Types. Bringing lots of food and Reviver Seeds is key to getting through this dungeon without tearing your hair out.
  • They Wasted a Perfectly Good Character: The role of Giratina. You would think that Giratina would be the game's True Final Boss, what with being a Pokemon on par with Dialga and Palkia, as well as having a pre-established relationship with Dialga, Palkia, and Arceus. Obviously, if the game were to have a greater villain, Giratina would be the one, right? Nope, Giratina is a mere treasure-guarder, while Darkrai, a lesser legendary with the same stat total as Goodra, no relation to Dialga/Palkia/Arceus beyond the one movie and no plausible way to overpower the likes of Dialga, is the True Final Boss. To be fair, Darkrai being unrelentingly evil was VERY well-received. In fact, when you recruit Giratina and talk to him in Spinda's Cafe, he's a perfectly friendly guy and more than willing to help out in your adventures. Not exactly Ultimate Evil material...
  • Tier-Induced Scrappy:
    • Cresselia is perhaps the worst when it comes to this. Not only do you have to escort her to the end of the dungeon (which contains tons and tons of lava for her to float over and burn herself with), but she also takes place in the final battle against Darkrai. That being said, she at least has the Lava Evader IQ Skill, so she won't go onto the lava on her own.
    • Averted with Bidoof, surprisingly. One would expect him to be The Load during the expedition to Fogbound Lake, considering (a) how he's the newest member of the guild after the player and partner, and (b) guest party members tend to be laughably poor combatants. However, in the mission itself, he's actually surprisingly strong and his powerful Headbutt means he can pull his weight and then some.
  • Tough Act to Follow: Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Gates to Infinity was always going to have a hard time coming after this one, largely due to the lackluster (read: limited) selection of Pokémon and weaker story overall.
  • True Art Is Angsty: As noted several times throughout this page, the game's sad and heartfelt story is widely considered the best thing about it.
  • What an Idiot!: Yet again, the 'Perfect Apple' incident. Thanks, Chatot, your insight and actions on the whole incident were really appreciated.
  • What Do You Mean, It's for Kids?:
    • You learn at the end of the game that you are essentially on a suicide mission, before that you're almost executed, Sky sees Grovyle get tortured... basically, everything related to the Bad Future.
    • The player and partner nearly get baited into killing themselves in the postgame story, and one of their friends (who is a small child) nearly gets trapped in an eternal nightmare.
  • The Woobie:
    • Bidoof, especially seen in his special episode.
    • The partner, after the player disappears. Or them in general? For one, they're a young Pokemon (directly referred to as a kid by some NPCs) who's also a coward who only got the strength to join the guild from the player, they've gone without dinner because of Team Skull, they were bullied by Team Skull in general, and their best friend/life partner disappears into light before their eyes, leaving them to go home alone while barely being able to hold themselves together. Things seem to be looking up for them when they return, only to have Cresselia (actually Darkrai in disguise) tells them to kill themselves along with the player because they are an anomaly. Ouch.
    • The Player themselves. For starters, they're an amnesiac from the future who has lost their family and turned into a Pokemon. Especially when finding out they exist only because of a Bad Future and they'll disappear once Primal Dialga is defeated.
    • Pretty much everyone from the Bad Future could qualify. Grovyle for being an idealist who wants to change the past even if it means he won't exist, Celebi for using most of her energy to send Grovyle, the player, and your partner to the present day and risking being murdered by Dusknoir's Sableye. It only gets worse after the post game story where Cresselia (actually Darkrai) asks you and your partner to kill yourselves to save the world, you're hunted by a well-meaning Palkia, and nearly killed by Darkrai in a nightmare when you dare to interfere with his plans.
    • Manaphy could also qualify, being a baby who ended up living away from his adoptive parents (you and the partner), and missing the sea despite the fact he enjoys being with you. Fortunately, he returns once he's grown up enough.
    • Azurill as well. He's a small child whose mother is sick, and therefore he and his brother have to take care of all the shopping and household chores. Shortly after being introduced, he gets kidnapped by an infamous outlaw, and much later he nearly gets trapped in one of Darkrai's nightmares forever.


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