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  • Unmodded Tenno/Orokin weapons provides balanced stats against everything, which destroy Grineer and Infested alike. The Corpus know this from studying Orokin technology. And so they came up with their counter: lots and lots of energy shields. No wonder Ospreys are so annoying.
  • Early-tier Grineer weapons tend to be effective against Corpus: they were fighting them for years before you showed up.
  • Faction weapons:
    • On the whole, the ugly Grineer weapons compare very favorably to the sleek Corpus weapons. Why? Because Corpus are a megacorp and so their weapons are designed by marketing execs for sale. The Grineer are soldiers, and so their weapons are designed by soldiers for combat.
    • Also, most Corpus weapons are actually repurposed tools used by crewmembers rather than dedicated weapons of war. However, the dedicated combat weapons among the Corpus do compare well against the Grineer weaponry, showing that when the Corpus get serious about making combat equipment, it can be very potent.
    • Checking the stats for the weapons also shows their purpose: Grineer weapons tend to fire fast and have high Impact damage, making them great for stripping shields from Corpus and Tenno. Corpus weapons, meanwhile, deal primarily Puncture damage, making them great for killing Grineer. Since the Corpus are constantly fighting the Grineer, and selling weapons to colonies who have to fend off Grineer invasions, it makes sense that the Corpus weapons would focus on armor penetration.
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  • Excalibur's Radial Blind. In Arthurian Legend, the first time Arthur's reign is challenged, he drew Excalibur and it blinded his enemies, sound familiar?
  • Secondary damage types:
    • Magnetic; amazingly effective against Corpus. But then, the Corpus are a faction that consists heavily of robotic and mechanized forces. And we all know what magnets do to computers. Magnetic damage deals normal damage against every class of Health. Because just about everyone in Warframe is a Cyborg of some kind. Even the Infested were Cyborgs before succumbing to the Technocyte Virus.
    • Viral; very effective against the Grineer, tends to fall short on killing anyone else. The Grineer are malformed, cybernetic reliant tube-born soldiers who can’t survive outside their suits. Their immune systems likely can’t take any viral/bacterial infections to save their lives.
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    • Gas; highly effective at cutting down the Infested, but not much else. Not only do most of the enemies in the game wear helmets that probably have filters, but the Infested are primarily made up from fungal growths and vaguely plant-like structures. Indiscriminate usage of chemicals sprays and attacks in real life usually results in the death of plant life around the area of affect.
      • May also be a nod to the darkSector, where Infested were especially vulnerable to the Enferon - a gaseous chemical.
    • Radiation; inflicts confusion. At first glance it sounds like they just needed SOMETHING to stick Confuse onto, but real life acute radiation syndrome lists numerous neurological disorders among its symptoms. That, or it just puts IFF systems on the fritz since it also affects robots, and confusion does nothing but turn off the Friendly Fireproof nature of warframes.
  • Valkyr (The Berserker warframe) has a skill called "Hysteria" that darkens your vision, forces you into melee-only combat and grants Nigh-Invulnerability for it's duration. Actual Norse berserkers fought in a nearly uncontrollable, trance-like fury, and some theories suggest they did so by eating drugged food before battle (which also resulted in altered sensorial perception). the Valkyr warframe isn't just emulating how a real berserker would fight, it's also using Interface Screw to (partially) give the player a sense of how a real berserker would perceive things.
  • All of (Classic) Stalker's weapon are designed specially to kill warframes. His bow Dread and his scythe Hate, the two weapons you're likely to face in combat against him, focus on slash damage whose status effect is Bleeding. His Despair knives are advertised as Sharpened to a Single Atom, which is in turn advertised as an anti-Warframe weapon. A Nikana stance mod Stalker can drop upon his defeat is called Blind Justice. The name probably refers to what Tenno think of the Stalker.
  • A fairly easy connection to make, but beyond having him in its picture stance, Vengeful Revenant is especially descriptive of the Stalker. A revenant is someone who has returned from the dead. The Stalker is yet another shadow of the Orokin Empire that was thought to have been completely wiped out.
  • Hek's namesake shotgun deals primarily Puncture damage, making it good against... other Grineer. Not unreasonable to suspect he uses it primarily to dispose of any other Grineer who might try to get in the way of his plans.
  • Ordis is a Cephalon in charge of operating your Liset. In biology, cephalon refers to the head section of arthropods. Now look at your Liset again.
  • About Ordis... Digital Extreme is a Canadian studio. And in French, computer is said "Ordinateur", and often abbreviated "Ordi". In plural, it's "Ordinateurs", abbreviated "Ordis" (though the s is silent). Ordis is an AI. I believe we have a pun here.
  • Why was Alad V, a massive racist against the Grineer who openly insults them to their face, ever appointed Head of Grineer Relations? That was the Corpus telling the Grineer exactly what the Board thinks of them.
  • The placement of the different syndicates' rooms in the Relay seems arbitrary at first, but they're actually divided up to show which syndicates best synergize with each other. The East Wing contains Cephalon Suda, Steel Meridian, and the Arbiters of Hexis, all of which a player can progress in at the same time without having to worry about losing standing with one of them while building up another. Likewise, the same can be done with the Perrin Sequence, Red Veil, and New Loka, which are all in the West Wing. The Conclave and Cephalon Simaris are both neutral and have no impact on standing with other syndicates, and as such, can be found to the north. Also, separating these groups as they have been reduces tensions. Perrin Sequence, Red Veil, and New Loka are generally baseline humans, while Cephalon Suda is a Cephalon, Steel meridian are Grineer, and the Arbiters are Tenno. Spreading them apart keeps potential conflicts from happening, especially between the purity-obsessed New Loka and the genetically-modded Grineer or AI Cephalon Suda.
  • It might not be too far of a stretch to think that every time you joined a Defense mission to protect Warframe Cyropod, you are protecting other 'sleeping' Tenno, just like you in the very beginning.
  • Archwing in underwater maps moves slower than in space, because of the friction involved.
  • When The Second Dream was released, a player in the official forum made an interesting observation. (SPOILER here) : If the warframe and the Operator are separate entities, then why should the Lotus be worried when Vor put his Ascaris Device on the player? The answer is Vor just basically recreated Transference by tapping into YOUR head and got too darn close to the truth in the process. Had the Lotus not helped, Vor might be able to create his own warframe army.
  • The name Tenno; Update 18 reveals the Tenno human operators are the children survivors of the Zarimen Ten Zero Void accident. 'Zero' is also said as 'O'. 'Tenno' is another way of saying 'Ten Zero'.
  • The missions on the Orokin Moon see Corpus and Grineer fighting each other. The game never explains why, but we can safely assume that both of them are going after Orokin technologies stashed inside.
  • If you are defeated by the Corpus Harvester assassin, your warframe is taken into Alad V's custody and you must escape through a special mission to regain access. However, you can just swap to a different warframe and never worry about completing that mission, which almost seems like Gameplay and Story Segregation... until the Second Dream reveals that the Operator really is just switching to a different remote interface.
  • With the revelations within the Second Dream questline Kubrows make perfect sense. Why would you engineer a combat dog that is also such a sweetheart to its partner off mission? Dogs are noted to have therapeutic effects on their partners so maybe Margulis made the first Kubrows as her means to heal the Tenno, but after her death they were turned into weapons of war.
  • Hunhow the Sentient, was torn apart into thousands of pieces, each still conscious and connected to a central mind. So it's rather fitting that he was buried on Uranus.
  • Ordis sometimes says a particular quote while you're on the Liset. "Operator were you visualizing a bloody battle? M-m-me too ." Turns out there's a reason for that bloodlust. Ordis used to be a human mercenary well known for wanton slaughter.
  • Why are Sentient scouts so damn cheesy? They're explicitly the last nail in the Orokin coffin. They aren't cyborg wage slaves, zombies or brain-dead clones. They're monsters (probably technically not) from another star, and you were bred to fight them in the last desperate act of a dying race. And the specimens in the game (so far) are just scouts and skirmishers. Start training, Tenno.
  • According to Cephalon Cordylon, the reason foundry blueprints charge credits is Ordis siphoning off funds to maintain the ship. Otherwise Tenno would just blow their money on more and more weapon blueprints until they starve. Taking certain later revelations (specifically that the Tenno are psychic child soldiers) into account, it makes perfect sense that the Lotus wouldn't trust the Tenno to handle their own mundane expenses.
  • Affinity, mastery, and polarities:
    • As a Tenno uses a weapon more and learns it inside and out, they figure out how to fit more mods into parts of it, knowing which parts of the weapon are and are not important or can be improved upon, and how they can modify the weapon without breaking it. Forma literally changes the shape of the weapon, so it can fit polarities easier, but a Tenno needs to relearn the altered shape of the weapon. Orokin Catalysts are technical devices that replicate many of a weapon's functions so more parts can be removed, while Orokin Reactors replace the complex internals of a Warframe with a smaller, more potent energy source, freeing up more room within the frame to modify it.
    • The free polarity slots in prime weapons could represent a Tenno's intimate knowledge of that design, being the weapons they wielded in the Old War.
    • The automatic modding slots you gain from having Mastery ranks also reflects how experienced the Tenno has become with weaponry and modding in general. The more a Tenno fights and trains and studies weapons as a whole, the better they are at understanding and manipulating even weaponry and gear that is new and unfamiliar to them.
  • For several of the Restores that you can make, like health and energy, it requires the resource Nanospores which is dropped mostly from the Infested and in-game says it's Infested tissue to be handled with caution. Why would the Tenno use them as components for items to heal and empower themselves? Because the Warframes are made from Infested flesh.
  • Similarly, What is Helminth's purpose aboard the Orbiter? Ordis says it provides certain "biological functions", but does not mention "life support". Helminth is absolutely loyal to Nidus, and unknowingly by extension, the Operator. If you need to make a Warframe out of Infested tissue, an Infested entity that is slavishly devoted to you would be perfect for that purpose.
  • Argon crystals decay when out of the Void. It's not that inconceivable, considering that Argon is a noble gas, and they're generally known for not being very chemically active, and as such they wouldn't be able to sustain themselves, let alone generate, outside its extradimensional home.
  • Frohd Bek is a highly influential Corpus member. His first name is pronounced a lot like "fraud". You can now do your own Lame Pun Reaction.
  • Titania's Spellbind not only stuns enemies but removes and protects against debuffs. She is also the only Warframe to have an integrated Archwing. Every time you cast Spellbind on a squadmate, you're activating and extending your life support bubble.
  • Speaking of Titania, she mainly focuses on CC first-> avoiding damage-> dealing damage. Most of her abilities are designed to also protect her allies. Her very first ability, Spellbind, deals no damage, and her others deal damage only after disabling the enemy in some way. Taking these into account, it could be representative of Silvana's horror at creating a killing machine, so she focused on Titania being able to fight, but making her abilities do as little damage as possible.
  • The Tusk enemies on the new Plains of Eidolon can call in more troops with ease. How do the dropships get there so fast? They were making supply runs to bases on the plains, and only had to alter their course a little and drop off some soldiers.
  • Why were the Sentients out to completely annihilate the Orokin? If, as seems to be the case, they were created as a colonization tool that gained intelligence, then upon arrival the Orokin would likely begin attempting to exterminate them for "having served their purpose". Who wouldn't strike back for that?
  • Baro says that Martian jellyfish are some of the best delicacies in the Origin System, and pays a premium for cryotic to transport them off planet. However Darvo says despite the hype, the jellyfish are apparently nasty and nowhere near the hype that Baro speaks of. Baro, being the last of the Martian Sand People, likely ate them as a child as easy to spoil seafood is often food for the poor who could afford to eat little else. He calls them a delicacy because they do taste special to him, a small bit of the life he had lost when the Grineer invaded.
  • The fact The Lotus manages every mission might seem like a case of Gameplay and Story Segregation considering how many Tenno there are who presumably get the same treatment, being able to manage that many operations at once would require machine like efficiency, becomes much more reasonable when you realise thats exactly what she is.
  • A lot of Corpus enemies focus on evading or neutralizing close combat enemies, like Nullifiers, the various flying robots, and the small Ratels. These weapons are tailor made to repel not just Tenno in general, but also one Warframe in particular: Valkyr, the Warframe who is virtually the archnemesis of the Corpus. Nullifiers basically make it impossible for Valkyr, or any other close-combat Warframe with sustained abilities, to keep their invulnerability active in close range, while the flying enemies and Ratels are hard to hit in melee. This forces them to either keep their distance, where they are less effective and the Corpus can bring massive energy weaponry to bear, or forces them into a high-risk close attack inside the bubble where the Corpus can quickly kill the Warframe before it can take out the Nullifier and escape. Nullifiers also make life hard for Vauban, the Warframe made to counter and mock the Corpus and their greed, as their shields can protect other Corpus troops while absorbing the charges from his various mines. It's a full-on arms race between the Corpus and the Warframes made to fight them.
  • After completing the Second Dream, it may seem weird that Warframes are generally described as characters in their own right when they are largely puppets of the Operators. Come the Sacrifice, and we discover that Warframes actually are their own characters, being reborn Dax soldiers; the original Inaros, Titania, and the rest must have retained more of their personality and done their own thing separate from the Tenno.
  • With Sacrifice, it becomes clear why Teshin is on our side. We're playing at least partially as his fellow Dax and proof the Orokin weren't that great - of course he prefers us to the Twin Queens. Additionally, the Tenno are still open to criticism, attempting to learn from their mistakes, and treat him with a great deal of respect as their superior in skill and age. A far cry from the Golden Lords of old. Some Tenno might even view him as their father figure, as he tries to be reasonable and guide them as best he can, barring outside interference.
  • In an incredible bit of foreshadowing: The Helminth Charger pet is created by cultivating the Helminth Virus and injecting it into a Kubrow during incubation, turning it into a creature similar in appearance to Nidus. As we learn from The Sacrifice, the Helminth is what allows for the creation of Warframes by injecting human subjects with a cultured version of the Infestation. Essentially, the process of making Helminth Chargers is similar to the process of creating Warframes.
  • Umbra only takes about 10 seconds to assemble, rather than the real-life hours or days other warframes need. This is because other warframes require you to culture and grow the parts that will become them. Umbra? You're re-assembling his pieces back together.
  • Alad V commented that he "opened up a warframe" and was "confused by what he saw inside". This was back when it was implied that warframes were armor that Tenno wore. However, his comment still makes sense. If frames are just Infestation in a humanoid shape, Alad would have seen that... and frames don't act like the Infestation. They possess powers that the Infestation doesn't have. He might have figured out that they were once people, but the same is true for the Infestation itself. In hindsight, his own experiments to create the Mutalists could very well be an extremely misguided attempt to gain the powers of a warframe for himself, especially after he infected himself!
  • The Orokin valued physical beauty and symmetry above all else. Ballas' right arm is stretched to twice "normal" length; he also tends to stand or walk with it held behind him, and his clothing is designed with long strips of fabric only on his right side - an attempt to hide or disguise his deformity. And why would one of the Orokin look like this, if they required physical perfection? Ballas worked on developing the Tenno; Margulis was loved by them and was still burned and blinded by Power Incontinence. Ballas, on the other hand, was a total asshole. It wouldn't be surprising if, say, Mag "accidentally" lost control of her "Pull" power and deformed him with Void powers in a way the Orokin couldn't fix at the time. And after the Empire fell, there was no one around to research a remedy.
    • Revelations from the Glassmaker Nightwave season and Deimos reveal that Ballas is, shockingly enough, not unique in having a hyperextended right arm. Both Nihil the Glassmaker and every member of the Entrati family also have extended right arms arms, which raises a considerable number of questions regarding whether the arms might have some cultural or genetic significance. It appears that members of the Executors class might have them by default, as a way of easily denoting their position, much like how Grineer rank is easily determined by their armor pattern, but it should be noted that this blatantly flies in the face of what we knew of Orikin culture beforehand with regards to the Twin Queens.
  • In the Fortuna trailer, the drum beats and lyrics for "We All Lift Together" are timed in conjunction with the actions of the Solaris workers. While at first glance this looks like just a good synchronization between the trailer and the song, traditional work songs often used the beat and cadence of the song to coordinate activities to increase efficiency, especially if they had to by synchronous, i.e. sawing logs or hammering stakes. Plus, work songs were commonly used by slave laborers, and the Solaris debt-slaves certainly count.
  • If the Operator has been capable of fighting since the War Within why did take until the Plains of Eidolon for them to get a weapon, and why was it the Quills and not the Lotus who provided it for them? It's because the Lotus is overprotective and does not want to see her children risking themselves by going into battle. The Quills on the other hand know they are capable, and that denying it is a mistake.
  • At first, the "Reputation" mechanic with Cetus and the Syndicates seem weird, since you use the very same "reputation" to buy items, mods or crafting components, making it seem like the group likes you less after you bought a blueprint from them. But then you realize, these things are actually favors the Ostrons and the Syndicates own you for helping them. You never actually get paid when doing missions for them (the loot you get on Cetus bounties are just loot you get from the Grineer), so it's not hard to think that they'd be willing to give resorces and such to the guy who has been helping them out.
  • Its odd that the Grustrag Three of all people would practice Mook Chivalry, being a hit squad made of the most insane and violent soldiers in the Grineer Empire. Considering how unremarkable they find the Tenno however, its possible that they are actually using it as a Self-Imposed Challenge. Thinking that it would be no fun to gang up on such an inferior foe, and that fighting one-on-one would be more entertaining.
  • Why is Excalibur Umbra already max rank when you build him? While other Warframes are mindless and rely on the Operator to control them, Umbra is fully conscious and aware. There is no learning period where the Operator has to grow familair with him before realizing their full potential because Umbra can already fight on his own.
  • Revenant's fourth ability "Danse Macabre" changes its damage type to whatever the target is most vulnerable too. The Sentients who Revenant is based off of were known for their ability to adapt, turning the Orokin's own weapons and technology against them during the old war. While Sentient enemies can gain resistance to certain damage types. Revenant has these same abilities but uses them offensively.
  • Why do the people of Fortuna have their real heads in their chests? Simple really, a head is a very venerable part that could easily get either injured in some way or get affected by harmful gasses or various other factors. by putting them in their chest compartment, it keeps them safe from the very dangerous conditions they have to work in.
  • Grineer clone degradation:
    • Clem can only say three word sentences at most, and he's immune to the Twin Queen's brainwashing. Why? He must have been born with a birth defect that took out the genetic markers that enforce Grineer obedience. It seems that the Grineer defectors, such as Clem, Steel Meridian, and the Kavor, are on the whole tougher and more healthy (as evidenced by their lack of cybernetics) than the average Grineer. It seems very likely that what causes complete compliance to the Queens positively destroys the Grineer with Clone Degeneration.
    • Kela De Thrym lacks implants and Kyl Regor, while Ax-Crazy, is Wicked Cultured and intelligent enough to make Super Soldiers.
  • Nef Anyo is the one selling the rigs to the Solaris, including their cybernetic heads. Why doesn't he put in a virus that tweaks their minds to make them more loyal? Because they still have their biological minds controlling their rigs.
  • Ember regenerates energy and deals more ability damage when she's burning because she can draw power from the flames around her. She can use them to help conjure her own fire rather than having to make it out of thin air.
  • Why does Eudico give the Tenno Garuda's blueprint at the end of Fortuna's introductory quest, when the resources needed to actually build her cannot be obtained until you reach Rank 4 with the Solaris United syndicate? Simple. Its bait. By giving the Tenno schematics for a warframe that only the people of Fortuna can help them build, Eudico ensures that anyone who wants it will have to stick around and help. Even if the Tenno is only after the warframe, by the time they reach high enough rank to actually build it they will have done Eudico and her people a mountain good, and perhaps even grown sympathetic enough to continue helping them anyway.
  • Kitguns are improvised, modular guns that are extremely effective against Corpus, easily shredding through their shields, while several of them fire a wide angle beam that make it more easy to pull off a Boom, Headshot! bypassing the shield gate of Corpus units, or hit Ospreys, but their poor armor penetration capabilities makes them ineffective against the Grineer. Then again, they are improvised weapons meant for untrained fighters to use against Corpus targets, and said fighters need all the help they can get.
  • In contrast to a traditional Day/Night Cycle like the one seen on the Plains of Eidolon, the Orb Vallis on Venus has a Warm/Cold Cycle. This is because a Day/Night cycle on Venus takes 243 Earth Days to complete. Ain't nobody got time for that, Tenno.
  • How did we get the Euphona Prime when there was no regular Euphona to begin with? Many of the non-primed items we have were made by copying the original Orokin era designs, which have been lost and are very hard to come by. Its possible that the Euphona's designs were so rare that no on knew enough about it to even make a non-prime version.
    • This is further backed up by Baro Ki'teer's reaction to it. Normally when a player approaches him with a prime warframe or weapon he will compliment them. If they have only the Euphona Prime however he will not notice and treat it like any other weapon. This is because its so rare that he doesn't recognize it as a genuine Orokin design.
  • Many were confused when Wisp, an ethereal frame, had abilities that weren't tied to her supposed theme of ghosts and spirits, especially her 4, which allows her to create a portal to the surface of the Sun and roast her foes with a concentrated beam of plasma. Things got cleared up a little more when someone suggested that she's based off of a Will 'o Wisp, a swamp spirit that leads travelers astray, but it didn't seem to explain her 4. The thing is, Will 'o wisps are actually burning orbs of swamp gas. What else is a burning orb of gas? The Sun.

Fridge Horror

  • The Corpus, whose name is derived from a common word depicted in Orokin history, are now a Proud Merchant Race that worship Orokin greed and history from its corpse. Corpus in Latin means body.
  • Ever wonder why you see very few female Corpus mooks outside of the rare elite Comba and Scrambus? The Cephalon fragment for the Corpus says the Corpus crewmen are purpose-bred.
  • Here in the real world, Ceres has no atmosphere. The Ceres of Warframe has a thick atmosphere choked with sickly green clouds weeping perpetual acid rain onto the surface. When you consider it's one of the largest Grineer factory worlds, it's entirely possible that it obtained this atmosphere entirely from its industrial output. The Grineer basically enacted Hostile Terraforming as a side effect of their war effort.
  • Survival missions were full of this:
    • During the event that first introduced Survival missions, there was no extraction. You fought until you died. How many brave Tenno did the Lotus abandon to their doom?
    • The Corpus could somehow turn off the oxygen generation for their frozen planetside outposts. Excavation has since replaced planetside Survival missions however.
  • Have you ever taken a moment to look at health pickups? The texture is eerily similar to that of the Kuva that the Queens harvest. Health pickups drop from normal enemies. Kuva is made of people. To add on to this, one weapon lets you generate a health orb from dead (biological) enemies, adding more props to the Kuva is people theory.
  • Valkyr:
    • Valkyr is a Warframe that was a survivor of the Gradivus Dilemma, an event where Corpus exec Alad V disassembled several frozen Tenno to create his own special proxy, Zanuka, and the design of her Warframe reflects that. What appears to be some sort of mask is clearly the true form of her helmet, the inside plating quite visible in contrast to the flowing exterior, and a similar section along her spine shows the fine armor beneath the suit. In other places, what used to be the aforementioned organic exterior of the suit has been put back together with makeshift repairs, giving Valkyr's armor a very flayed and raw appearance. Furthermore, the rest of her suit is studded with pins, some of which seem to go through her arm, which could potentially be holding what's left of her exterior together. Combined with the obvious restraints that she now uses as weapons, and the constant anger and rage she barely keeps control of, and one can only imagine what horrors the Corpus did to her...
    • Adding to this, take a good look at the color of Valkyr's Gersemi Armor (which is, according to the description, how Valkyr used to look like before Alad got his hands on her) and now look what color Zanuka has, both are turquoise, which implies that Alad literally Ripped Valkyr's skin off.
  • Rescue 2.0 (introduced in Update 13.2.0) has Infested in prison cells. It's possible that the technocyte virus works so quickly that some random civilian, insubordinate Grineer, Corpus POW, Red Veil member, etc. was thrown in just 1 minute ago, and transformed into an Infested in as much time. It's equally possible (and potentially proven, by a recent Infested-themed questline) that the Infested are in the cells as captives for research purposes. The lengths they must have had to go through to take one of things alive...
  • The only indication that "synthesis scanners" you get from Cephalon Simaris are lethal is when he randomly starts talking about the ethics of murder and Unwilling Roboticisation out of nowhere, without anyone prompting him to. Considering nonlethal scanning/teleportation devices already exist, for Capture missions, that's a pretty big thing to leave out of the briefing document.
  • Ancient Healer synthesis codex describe the Orokin Lorists during Infested attack. Ancient Healer who can restore health and boost armor for its allies. Does that sound like any Warframe you have?
  • "Fight poison with poison." Ballas created the original Saryn Prime, meaning that he's sending innocent children to work as a proxy in his own revenge scheme despite knowing damn well what happened.
  • In the Sands of Inaros quest, one of the enemies the Sacred Vessels can send you to fight are Denial Bursas. While it's possible that the other eight possible targets existed in the Orokin Era (blue MOAs, Detron gunmen, various Grineer laborers, Infested units) this one provably did not. Inaros had to have picked this target himself using data from the outside world, meaning he's still alive after being torn to shreds and stuffed in three different burial urns.
  • The Red Veil blatantly torture Grineer, and utilize infested runners as hit squads. Chargers are made from horrifyingly warped Grineer bodies. Put two and two together. The Grineer being tortured right next to the Charger Pen already has.
  • Cephalons are created through Brain Upload. And, as seen with Jordas, their use is, at the least in the Corpus, still at large.
  • During the Eyes of Blight, the Grineer find the extremely well-hidden Tenno relays, and will attempt to destroy them with Fomorians. They were able to find them because the Twin Queens can command Teshin, who knows the coordinates of the relays, to tell them.
  • The War Within and the Orokin:
    • The War Within reveals that the Orokin, in order to stay young, are stealing bodies. That is horrific enough. However, both times Orokin were mentioned or shown to have died of physical causes, the reaction from others was more in line with illness than actual death. Then there is the Yuvan theater, a place where Orokin can buy slaves to possess, and all the pieces fall into place. They do not need to switch bodies to survive. Those people they mindrape? Nothing more than clothing to them.
    • Even better, the floors with the Golden Maws leading up to the theater are covered in bones. This means the Orokin used the Golden Maws as a 'selection process' for their new bodies.
    • The Detron Crewman synthesis imprint also shows that the Orokin were cavalier about executing lawbreakers, to the point that an executor was willing to execute not only an engineer but his entire corpus if he lost an appeal. This extreme yet casual approach to execution makes more sense when an Orokin "dying" is effectively just a hefty financial loss rather than permanent death. For the Orokin, an execution was the equivalent of being severely fined, since the bodies being killed were just other human beings' bodies. Executing someone's "corpus" would likely mean not just killing the lawbreaker but every backup body they owned, ensuring their death was much more final.
  • During the Chains of Harrow Palladino states the Red Veil was formed by Rell's teachings to combat The Man in the Wall. At the time of the game, the Red Veil is devoted to guerilla warfare against their enemies. This is because, as their leader states, their doctrines call for a violent purge to purify the Origin System. This either means that Rell commanded them to be The Unfettered and perform a purge to fight against the Man in the Wall, or Rell's commands were hijacked by a later member of the Veil, and turned them into the Syndicate today.
  • Some further thought sheds more light on just how horrible the Orokin were. Rell was clearly unsuited for any form of combat whatsoever. The Orokin made him a frame anyway. A frame whose functions require it to sacrifice either energy, or its shields to empower allies. Harrow was made to be cannon fodder that lets its allies fight on just a little further.
  • Ballas' artwork hits the Uncanny Valley deeply... But if you compare his eyes to that of the possessed Operator, you'll notice that they're eerily similar. Given that Orokin Continuity consisted of Body Surf, it's highly likely that the process is similar to the Man in the Wall, or even allowing him to be hijacked by him.
  • The story in Sands of Inaros ends with Baro's mother being gunned down while a young Baro is desperately praying to Inaros to save her, just as the latter had done for his people in ages past. But Inaros did not answer and the Sand People would be wiped out to a man (specifically, Baro is the only survivor). In the second part of the story, Baro's mother tells that in the legend Inaros rose once more to save the colony from the Infestation, despite his body already been long since torn to shreds. So why did he not hear Baro's prayers? Simple. The Infestation came shortly after the Tenno rebelled against the Orokin, meaning that the Operators were still active. By the time Baro was born, the Tenno Operators have long since been locked away into the Second Dream and into stasis, no longer able to hear the prayers anymore. Or, given revelations in the Sacrifice, it was entirely possible that Inaros was reabsorbed by the Infestation.
  • From the revelation of "The Sacrifice", if he wasn't Younger Than They Look, the person based on Nezha was possibly infested when he was no older than the Tenno themselves.
  • In "The Chimera" Ballas states that Lotus had fooled him and Tenno, and "There is only Natah". Wait, this means that dear mother Lotus had not perform Heel–Face Turn after the war and instead was Evil All Along, presumably in Manchurian Agent way. And the evil he did was Tenno protecting the balance (as it is stated several times in the game including Lotus' own quote) actually of various factions fighting each other and Tenno mercenaries not letting anyone win completely. Sounds like a plan to keep humanity weakened after the Old War until new Sentient army will be ready.
  • The "Dog Days" Tactical Alert gives a chilling perspective on the Grineer. Due to Kela de Thaym getting crazy because of a gas leak (already terrifying in itself), she orders her Executioners to do a Beach Episode water battle with the Tenno. They unquestioningly obey. Are they so terrified of their CO making an example of them they don't dare question her, or are they so biologically conditioned into blind obedience they literally can't even think of disobeying such an insane and pointless order?
  • What happened with Cephalon Cy and his Railjack and crew? They had an amazing 4890 confirmed kills against the Sentients - but their last mission went horribly wrong when practically all the Railjack's systems shut down just as they were in range of a Sentient Wormship - including shields, weapons, and life support. Sounds an awful lot like outright sabotage, doesn't it? Why would someone sabotage them, given their exemplary record and the threat of the war? Because they were so good at killing them, that's why. We already know Ballas went traitor, and it wouldn't be above him to destroy one of the best anti-Sentient crews they had. Hell, it might even have been a prerequisite before the Sentients agreed to work with him!

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