Here is a list of characters from A Way Out.
- Voiced by: Eric Krogh
A former banker who got involved with organized crime and was arrested soon after for fraud, embezzlement, and a murder he didn't commit. He is calm and rational, and was just arrested at the start of the game.
- Badass Baritone: His voice is deeper than Leo's.
- Badass Beard: He has a mustache-and-beard combo, but he's no less capable for an escaped inmate and an undercover cop.
- Becoming the Mask: When he reveals himself as an undercover cop, he's come to view Leo as a friend and is clearly guilty for lying to him and (if the player shoots Leo) ultimately killing him in their final confrontation.
- Cool Old Guy: Downplayed; while not quite old as the typical example, being in his early 40's, Vincent looks quite grizzled, and is quite capable of handling things himself. Ray even calls him "grandpa" after Vincent and Leo tie him up for questioning. It's worth noting that in early concept art, Vincent was originally intended to be one, with gray hair and a mustache-beard combo.
- Cowboy Cop: One can interpret his actions as acting out of protocol - not bringing Ray into the station for questioning, and going into Mexico to chase after Harvey, which is entirely out of his jurisdiction, and killing Harvey to avenge his dead brother when he could've arrested him. Even if he was undercover, Vincent broke a lot of rules just to satisfy his need for revenge, which surprisingly doesn't provoke any fire from his co-workers.
- Deadpan Snarker: Often makes witty quips. They fly over Leo's head.
- Disappeared Dad: Will become this for real if the player decides to shoot Vincent. It's especially tragic since his infant daughter will grow up never knowing her father.
- Exact Words: When trying to get Leo to work with him, Vincent brings up Harvey, in that he killed someone very close to him. He's half right.
- Foil: To Leo.
- Vincent came from a stable background and was on his way to a normal life, earning a financing degree, marrying his high school sweetheart, and having a child. Leo grew up an orphan, turned to crime at an early age, and while he got married and had a son, that didn't stop him from getting arrested after a diamond heist went horribly wrong.
- Vincent is calm and rational, while Leo is confident and aggressive. Vincent's options are more pragmatic, while Leo mostly uses violence to solve problems.
- Vincent is scruffy-looking, and has a beard-and-mustache combo. Leo has a neat-looking pompadour and sideburns, but is otherwise clean-shaven.
- Vincent is an undercover cop, who gets into prison using a criminal alias and backstory to paint himself as a fellow convict. Leo wants to get out of prison to get even with Harvey, the man responsible for landing him there, and set things right with his wife and son. The divide is even more prominent when the truth comes out, with Leo being enraged at Vincent's deceit to the point of wanting to kill him, while Vincent tries to resolves the situation peacefully and only kills if he has no choice.
- If he is left alive, Vincent has shaved off the beard but leaves the mustache when he regretted killing Leo, who grows a beard to represent his regret of killing him if he is killed.
- Go Out with a Smile: If the player chooses to shoot Vincent, Vincent requests for Leo to deliver his wife Carol a confession letter. Despite the hate he had for Vincent's prior actions, Leo agrees, and Vincent dies happy.
- Guile Hero: Vincent prefers to use tricks or subtlety to get what he wants.
- Happily Married: A subversion with Carol; their marriage is on the rocks, and his imprisonment for getting into organized crime widened the rift, to the point where, after giving birth, Carol was extremely reluctant to let Vincent hold their daughter. Actually, the crime part was a lie; it's Vincent's job as a police officer that was straining his relationship. In the "Vincent lives" ending, he resigns from the force and tells Carol that he's "out", and Carol seems to have forgiven him as she lets him back inside their house.
- Hell-Bent for Leather: Vincent wears a leather jacket when he first enters the prison. In the farmhouse level, after breaking into an old farmer couple's home, Vincent ditches his prison garb and comes out wearing a brown bomber jacket.
- Irony: Vincent's (fabricated) backstory of being screwed over by Harvey after getting into crime for him was what happened to Leo in the past. And despite hating Harvey himself, Vincent ends up doing the exact same thing that Harvey did to Leo. No wonder Leo felt so betrayed during The Reveal.
- Karma Houdini: Doesn't face retribution for breaking protocol by going to Mexico, which is out of the police's jurisdiction, and killing Harvey for revenge instead of finding a way to incapacitate and arrest him. He does, however, end up used as a hostage by Leo when The Reveal comes out, and in his ending, he get chewed out by Linda for killing Leo, which he deeply regrets.
- Laser-Guided Karma: He lied to Leo and used him to get to Harvey so he could avenge his brother, Gary, never telling Leo that they were both cops. In the climax, he ends up being used as a hostage by Leo to get away from the police, which later triggers the chase and final battle that kills either Leo or Vincent.
- Let Them Die Happy:
- If the player chooses to shoot Leo, Vincent watches as Leo suffers from his fatal bullet wound, obviously in pain. Out of pity and respect for their former friendship, he decides to stay at Leo's side and hold his hand. Leo proceeds to pass away with a smile.
- Vincent also ends up on the receiving end of this in the "Leo lives" ending; despite hating Vincent for lying to him, using him, and betraying him, Leo still agrees to bring Carol the letter he wrote (after all, it was Leo's idea that he write to his wife), and holds Vincent's hand until he dies.
- Lonely Funeral: Inverted; if Vincent dies, he's shown being buried while his wife, his infant daughter, and the entire police force (Emily included) attending his funeral, complete with a decorated tombstone and a three volley salute.
- My God, What Have I Done?: In the "Vincent lives" ending, after fatally shooting Leo, Vincent visits Linda and reveals what happened to her husband. She proceeds to rail on him and throw him out of the trailer home; Vincent's face as he leaves says it all. It's also implied that part of the reason he resigned from the force (other than wanting to be with Carol and raise their infant daughter) was out of guilt for causing the chain of events that led to Leo's death.
- Poor Communication Kills: Had Vincent simply told Leo the truth beforehand (or if Leo had been willing to talk to the FBI about Harvey in the first place,) neither of them would've died; instead they would work to bring down Harvey together, with help from the police force, and Leo would possibly receive a reduced sentence that would allow him to see his family early.
- Porn Stache: One of Vincent's flashbacks shows him with this mustache style when he was on a stakeout and when he was at a dinner with Carol before their marriage started to fall apart. It also appears in his funeral portrait if he is killed; or, if Leo is killed, when he goes to deliver the news to Linda.
- Red Oni, Blue Oni: He's calm and rational, compared to the aggressive and confident Leo.
- Spanner in the Works: He unwittingly foils an assassination attempt on Leo by Harvey's inside henchman, just by being a newly-arrived convict. The rest was history.
- Undercover Cop Reveal: Leo learns in the climax, at the worst possible moment, that Vincent is actually a police officer who fabricated his background and lied to him so he could have some person to get through to Harvey. When Vincent points a police-issue gun at Leo to make his arrest, Leo breaks down, and proceeds to hold his former friend hostage.
- Walking Spoiler: Most of his background is a lie manufactured by the police. He is in fact an undercover FBI agent working with Leo to get to Harvey.
- Wham Line: "Leo, you're under arrest."
- What the Hell, Hero?: If he lives, he'll get chewed out by a widowed Linda for killing Leo, as she's obviously not sympathetic to his side of the story. He walks away looking deeply ashamed afterwards.
- Voiced by: Fares Fares
An experienced thief who went to jail for armed robbery, assault, and grand theft after a diamond heist went terribly wrong. He is confident and aggressive, and had been serving for six months already at the start of the game.
- Appeal to Force: Most of his actions involve violence, be it through weapons or physical means, and/or threatening someone.
- Badass Baritone: While a bit higher than Vincent's, Leo's voice is nonetheless deep and husky, with a thick Italian accent.
- Beard of Sorrow: He grows an impressive one in the "Leo lives" ending, due to the guilt he had for shooting Vincent.
- Broken Pedestal: To his son, Alex; after he learns of his father's crimes, Alex gives Leo the cold shoulder and goes up into his treehouse, pulling up the ladder so he wouldn't be followed. Leo is helpless to do anything the entire time.
- Childhood Friend Romance: Linda was his first and only friend, and his first love.
- Choke Holds: One of Leo's options is to grab someone in a chokehold and knock them out this way.
- Dark and Troubled Past: He was an orphan who no one adopted, so he ended up living in the orphanage for a majority of his life; this was where he met Linda, who would become his only friend, and later wife. He turned to crime at an early age, and his diamond heist was motivated by a desire to bring money for his family and improve living conditions for his wife and son.
- Delinquent Hair: His hair is in the shape of a small pompadour.
- Disappeared Dad: He was this by the start of the game, due to being in prison for robbery and assault, which strained his relationship with his son, Alex. He'll become this for real if the player chooses to shoot Leo in the climax.
- Et Tu, Brute?:
- Leo went through this with Harvey in the past, after Harvey had him incriminated and dumped in prison to save his own skin when the diamond heist failed. In the fight against Harvey, should the player choose to confront him as Leo, Leo will point his gun at Harvey and angrily demand why he betrayed him.
- Leo discovers in the worst possible way that Vincent's story of being a fellow convict was a lie; he was actually an undercover cop who had been using him to get to Harvey so he could avenge his brother, who was also a cop. Infuriated, Leo takes Vincent hostage so he could escape the police, which culminates in their fight to the death.
- What makes the second example more profound was the fact that Vincent used Leo in a similar vein to Harvey, albeit for different reasons. Once Leo makes the connections, his reaction was spectacular.
- Face Your Fears: He is scared of heights, which is integrated into gameplay as a shaking screen if the player climbs high structures as him. Yet when he needs to run over to the top of an at least 30-stories-tall crane to catch Ray during the construction site chase and save Vincent, he overcomes his fear.
- Foil: To Vincent.
- Leo grew up an orphan, turned to crime at an early age, and while he got married and had a son, that didn't stop him from getting arrested after a diamond heist went horribly wrong. Vincent came from a stable background and was on his way to a normal life, earning a financing degree, marrying his high school sweetheart, and having a child.
- Leo is confident and aggressive, while Vincent is calm and rational. Vincent's options are more pragmatic, while Leo mostly uses violence to solve problems.
- Leo has a neat-looking pompadour and sideburns, but is otherwise clean-shaven. Vincent is scruffy-looking, and has a beard-and-mustache combo.
- Leo wants to get out of prison to get even with Harvey, the man responsible for landing him there, and set things right with his wife and son. Vincent is an undercover cop, who gets into prison using a criminal alias and backstory to paint himself as a fellow convict. The divide is even more prominent when the truth comes out, with Leo being enraged at Vincent's deceit to the point of wanting to kill him, while Vincent tries to resolves the situation peacefully and only kills if he has no choice.
- Also, if he is left alive, Leo grows a beard which represents his regret for killing Vincent, who shaved off his beard but leaves the mustache when he regretted killing him if he were to die instead.
- Freudian Excuse: He grew up an orphan with no family to look after him, or friends to count on - the only one in his life was Linda, with whom he had a son, Alex. This resulted in him becoming a Horrible Judge of Character, as almost every single person he met after Linda either betrayed him, used him, or both. Even his "best friend", Vincent.
- Gag Nose: While it's not commented on, Leo has a very prominent nose. This is due to being based on Fares, Josef's brother, who has quite the schnoz himself.
- "Get Back Here!" Boss: He becomes this in the final level in the game for Vincent, after the Undercover Cop Reveal. Whoever controls Leo will have him running away from the police, meaning the other player, as Vincent, will be chasing after him until they reach the rooftops.
- Go Out with a Smile: If Leo is shot, Vincent takes pity on him after watching him suffer from being shot in the stomach, and decides to stay with Leo and hold his hand to alleviate the pain, allowing Leo to die peacefully with a smile.
- Groin Attack: Threatens to do this to Ray with a blowtorch if it'll make him talk.
- Gut Feeling: When Vincent asks Leo if he's sure that Harvey really has the Black Orlov, Leo replies that he doesn't know, but he has a feeling that he does.
- Happily Married: To Linda. Despite the fact he's a criminal, she loves him unconditionally and will lie to the police to keep him safe.
- Horrible Judge of Character: Ends up trusting people way too easily due to his lonely childhood, to where it becomes a Fatal Flaw. Save for his wife and son, every single person in his life has betrayed him. Even Vincent, to fatal degrees (should Leo die).
- Hot-Blooded: Leo's described as aggressive by both his character selection bio and Josef himself, and most of his options when interacting with others involve violence. It's eventually deconstructed; once Leo finds out about Vincent's deceit in the climax, he explodes, and becomes set on killing him, refusing to listen to reason or Vincent's pleas. This results in a rooftop battle that either results in Leo's death (if the player chooses to shoot him) or Leo actually killing Vincent only to deeply regret his actions afterwards (if the player decides to shoot Vincent). More tellingly, had Leo acquired more control of his anger, it would have prevented both of their families from going to the pain and grief of losing a loved one.
- Hot Blooded Sideburns: He has sideburns, and acts more aggressively than Vincent.
- Hidden Depths:
- In the farm level, there's a Guitar Hero-esque minigame in which both players can participate in. Doing so will trigger a cutscene where Leo plays a country song together with Vincent on the banjo. Vincent will express his surprise that Leo's so good at it.
- Leo's also surprisingly knowledgeable with relationships, due to being a married man, and lends out a hand to those who suffer relationship troubles.
- In the city area, encountering an arguing couple where the man slept with his girl's best friend will trigger a conversation where Leo calls the man out on his behavior and makes him apologize to his girl.
- In the trailer park area, he helps out his neighbor, a scorned woman, find her husband after she learns he was sleeping with someone else. It helped that there were noises coming from one of the trailers...
- After Vincent learns that his wife went into labor while he was away, Leo drops the "Kill Harvey" mission so he could take Vincent to the hospital and let him see his newborn child. Then, when Vincent confesses that his marriage was on the rocks, Leo suggests that he write an apology letter, because that's what he did when he and Linda had a similar falling-out.
- I'll Kill You!:
- He shouts this at Ray during the construction site chase, due to being Harvey's lackey.
- Angrily and repeatedly shouts this at Vincent after the truth about his story comes out, in response to Vincent's pleas to stand down peacefully.
- Ink-Suit Actor: According to Josef Fares, Leo's facial features were heavily based on those of his brother, Fares Fares, who is also Leo's VA.Josef Fares: In Leos case (after about a year of development), we decided to base his face on the face of my brother, the actor Fares Fares. What I like about my brothers face, is its very cinematic with striking characteristics and why we wanted to use him.
- It's Personal: Hates Harvey for landing him in jail after a diamond heist went horribly wrong. He bonds over Vincent over this shared goal.
- Jerk with a Heart of Gold: He's a hardened criminal with a bad history on his belt and a tendency for aggressiveness and violence, but he's also a loving father and husband, and wants nothing more than to do right by his family once he gets out.
- Lonely Funeral: Justified; because Leo is an escaped criminal who had assaulted and even killed several police officers, and held one (Vincent) hostage. Naturally, his marker is quite small and cheap-looking, with a small picture and a plain flower bouquet, and only his wife and son are seen paying their respects. And plus, what little friends Leo had made while in prison are still serving their sentences, so they can't go attend his funeral.
- My God, What Have I Done?: In the "Leo lives" ending; he agrees to fulfill Vincent's dying request and deliver his tearful confession letter to his wife, Carol, but when he actually does it, Leo couldn't bring himself to face her, so he instead rings her doorbell and leaves before she catches him. While he tries to comfort himself with being there for his own wife and son, and moves them presumably out of state to start fresh, it's clear that killing Vincent had shaken him deeply.
- No Sympathy: One of his dialogue options to a fellow inmate getting beat up and having his things stolen is, "Sucks to be you."
- Parental Abandonment: His bio in the character selection screen mentions that he grew up in an orphanage.
- Oh, Crap!:
- Speaks this verbatim after he volunteers to jump into a dark hole first. Turns out it's a long way down.
- When he and Vincent go sky-diving from Emily's plane, Leo finds that his parachute isn't working, and starts having a breakdown while still hundreds of feet in the air, screaming for help.
- Rebel Relaxation: He's shown in the beginning of the game, and the trailers, leaning against a fence in prison this way, with a Badass Armfold to boot. His folder image is a cropped version of that screenshot.
- Roaring Rampage of Revenge: Deconstructed; after learning that Vincent was an undercover cop who used him to get to Harvey, the same guy who got him into prison in the first place, Leo is furious. First he holds Vincent hostage and tries using him to get away, which he does. Then he steals a gun from Vincent's co-worker Emily, and flees to the rooftops. All the while, Vincent is tailing him, begging and pleading Leo to stand down and reconsider, only for Leo to angrily reject him at every turn. This later leads to a rooftop battle that results in either Leo or Vincent's deaths (depending on the player's choice). While Vincent was wrong to use him like that, he was genuinely apologetic afterwards, but Leo's anger over being betrayed prevented him from listening to reason, which proved to be a costly and ultimately fatal mistake.
- Sarcasm-Blind: Some of Vincent's snarks fly pass his head.
- Sir Swears-a-Lot: Compared to Vincent, Leo's got the fouler mouth.
- Stay with Me Until I Die: A silent version; if Leo is shot, Vincent takes pity on him after watching Leo suffer from the fatal bullet wound, and decides to stay by Leo's side and hold his hand out of respect towards their former friendship. Leo dies with a peaceful smile on his face.
- Stock Foreign Name: "Leo Caruso", suggesting he is of Italian descent.
- Street Smart: In contrast to Vincent's learned, by-the-book experience, Leo is this.
- Suspiciously Specific Denial: In the beginning, Vincent suspects Leo might be up to a prison escape plan, to which Leo denies. Vincent doesn't buy it.
- Talk to the Fist: Leo's seen doing this to one of two fellow inmates in the prison cafeteria after they annoy him by keeping him from entering and calling him a "gringo".Leo: How 'bout this?
(punches inmate hard in the gut)
- Used to Be a Sweet Kid: Conversed; after Leo threatens a construction worker into letting him and Vincent see Ray, Vincent suggests being nice for a change. Leo explains he's been that way since he was a kid, causing Vincent to joke that Leo must've been a "sweet little boy" once. Leo denies it.
- Vengeance Feels Empty: If you have him kill Vincent, this is his reaction after killing him for his deception as an undercover police officer. In fact, he doesn't gloat or tell him off, only watching him die in silence. While he tries to comfort himself with being there for his own wife and son, and moves them presumably out of state to start fresh, it is clear that killing Vincent did not bring him any satisfaction at all.
- Why Did It Have to Be Snakes?: Leo's acrophobic (i.e. fears heights); once, when he was 8, he climbed and fell out of a tree, breaking his arm. As a result, anytime he is near any heights or climbing anything, Leo's view will be shaking because of his vertigo. He even keeps telling himself not to look down and he "can do this" whenever he's somewhere up high, which is common of someone with acrophobia. Of note; when Leo and Vincent go sky-diving and Leo finds his parachute isn't working, he starts screaming and panicking, causing Vincent to hold onto him as they descend. Vincent finds the whole thing funny; Leo understandably doesn't.
- Would Hit a Girl: He doesn't hesitate to knock out a female guard during the hospital escape.
Harvey & Associates
- Voiced by: Robert Davide
A greedy criminal whom Vincent and Leo both share a grudge with. One of his underlings continuously antagonizes Leo while in prison, bringing him and Vincent together.
- Bad Boss: Betrays Leo, kills two separate buyers for the Black Orlov, and executes Ray for talking. During the final gunfight, he doesn't seem concerned about whether his grenades will hit any of his men. It's a wonder that his men are so willing to fight for him that they keep fighting even after he dies.
- Big Bad: Of the game. He's the reason why both Vincent and Leo were in jail in the first place. He's also the reason why Vincent's brother, Gary, died.
- Establishing Character Moment: Harvey learns that his man failed to kill Leo and, in his anger, murders the two Arabs when they demand a lower price on the diamond.
- Laser-Guided Karma: He ends up being killed by the two people he screwed over. One of which had a brother killed by him.
- Shout-Out: In the final fight, an unhinged Harvey introduces himself wearing a suit and brandishing a grenade launcher, while shouting things among the lines of "You think you can take me out?!". This is very similar to Tony Montana and his "Little Friend" in Scarface (1983). Even his death, being riddled with bullets before falling into a pool, is exactly how Tony died.
- Voiced by: Andrew Lowery
Harvey's underling, working as a construction site head.
- Bad Boss: He gets into an argument with an employee over the amount of construction materials, makes fun of the man's stutter when he tries to explain himself, then fires him without giving him another chance. It's implied by one of the other construction workers that no one likes working for him at all.
- Death by Falling Over: Tries to invoke this to either Vincent or Leo, should they reach him in the crane area. After they capture him and fail to get information, Leo stews in his thoughts until he decides that he's had enough, and furiously kicks the guy off a building several stories high. The screen whites out before he hits the ground, but it's clear he's dead by now.note Note that after doing so, the scene turns back to before that all happened, meaning it is little more than an Imagine Spot on the part of Leo.
- "Get Back Here!" Boss: He's the guy Leo and Vincent must confront and nab in the construction site segment, in order to get Harvey's location. Unfortunately, he doesn't make it easy for them, running into high places and blocking their pathways with building materials. Complicating the chase further is Leo's acrophobia, which he overcomes to get Ray.
- Groin Attack: Leo threatens to do this to him with a blowtorch if it'll get him to talk.
- Laser-Guided Karma: At some point during his chase, Ray will try to make either Vincent or Leo fall a several stories-high drop. He ends up kicked over the edge by Leo, should certain requirements be fulfilled.
- Screw This, I'm Outta Here!: As soon as he spots and recognizes, he tries to get away, prompting a chase scene.
Main Characters' Family
- Voiced by: Andrea Deck
- Childhood Friend Romance: Leo and Linda have been together since their time at the orphanage.
- Due to the Dead: She does this in the "Vincent lives" ending, where she's putting flowers at Leo's grave. Tragically, she's the only one doing so, until Alex comes along to fetch her.
- Get Out!: After freaking out over the news that Leo had been killed, she rails into Vincent (who's the killer) before throwing him out of her trailer with a tearful, "Go!"
- Happily Married: Linda doesn't care one bit that Leo's a criminal, they're completely in love with each other. If Leo dies, she's absolutely devastated about it. However, their relationship is not perfect; after the Mexico level, Leo, in suggesting that Vincent write a letter to his wife, mentions that he and Linda went through a similar rough period that was resolved by him writing an apology letter.
- What the Hell, Hero?: Though unheard, she calls Vincent out for killing Leo, her husband, and throws him out of her trailer. He walks away looking deeply ashamed afterwards.
- Voiced by: Claire Morgan
- Due to the Dead: He and his mother Linda are the only ones who pay respects to Leo's grave after he's killed in Vincent's ending.
- Voiced by: Jessica Calmhede
Vincent's pregnant wife.
- Due to the Dead: She does this in the "Leo lives" ending, where she's attending a police funeral for Vincent with their infant daughter. She's inconsolably tearful the entire time, with Vincent's boss attempting to comfort her.
- Happily Married: Subverted. She's not on the best of terms with Vincent due to becoming a convict, which wouldn't bode well for their upcoming baby. It's actually Vincent's job as a police officer that's straining their relationship. In the "Vincent lives" ending, after Vincent resigns from the force, she lets him back into their house and into her life again.
- Posthumous Character: He is dead at the start of the story.
- Porn Stache: He resembles Vincent to a degree, including sporting the same style of mustache.
- Small Role, Big Impact: He shows up in the game in a flashback for a little more than a minute and dies in the same scene, yet his death is what motivated Vincent.
- Walking Spoiler: The dealer that was shot dead by Harvey in the flashback to the day Leo's diamond heist went wrong? That's Gary, Vincent's brother. He's also an undercover cop.
- Voiced by: Julia Ragnarsson
A pilot that Vincent knows.
- Due to the Dead: In the "Leo lives" ending, Emily can be seen attending Vincent's funeral with the entire police force.
- It's All My Fault: In the "Leo lives" ending, the guilty way she stares at Vincent's portrait during his funeral implies that she regrets listening to Leo's orders to leave him be during the climatic battle, since it led to Vincent's death.
- Red Herring: For around half a minute, the game implies that she ratted out Vincent and Leo to the police. It turns out that Vincent is along with her as well.
- Undercover Cop Reveal: She is a police pilot going along with Vincent's plan to remain undercover to Leo until they recovered the Black Orlov. She reveals it by appearing totally calm when the police surrounds their plane.
- You're Insane!: She calls Leo and Vincent "crazy" after she rescues them from Harvey's goons via plane and demands that Vincent pay her triple in return.
- Voiced by: Alana Maria
An arms dealer that the duo meets to acquire some guns.
- Bitch in Sheep's Clothing: As soon as Vincent and Leo leave for Mexico with their weapons, she gives away their location to Harvey, who sends a hitman after them.
- You Owe Me: Apparently she owed Leo a favor in the past, which he cashed in on so he and Vincent could buy weapons for their trip to Mexico. She isn't happy about it, but lets it slide while warning Leo that it'll be "the last time".