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jormis29 Since: Mar, 2012
#1876: Jan 19th 2015 at 1:45:32 AM

I Wish It Were Real

  • ''Series/{{Supernatural}}'': The boys investigate a town where wishes are coming true in the "[[Recap/SupernaturalS04E08WishfulThinking Wishful Thinking]]" episode and find a little girl who wished her Toys/TeddyBear "was big, real, and talked". The bear turns out to be a depressed alcoholic and tries [[SuicideAsComedy to kill himself]] by blasting his [[AteHisGun head off with a shotgun]] after an existential crisis.

Crying Indian

  • Parodied in the "[[Recap/SouthParkS18E1GoFundYourself Go Fund Yourself]]" episode of ''{{WesternAnimation/Southpark}}''. [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Snyder Dan Snyder]] takes offense when the boys start a {{Website/Kickstarter}} company named after his [[UsefulNotes/NationalFootballLeague NFL]] team, the Washington Redskins. After he sees a newspaper blown off a highway with headline, "ISIS copies Washington Redskins" (referring to company), Dan turns to the camera and sheds a SingleTear.

Dead Pet Sketch

  • ''Series/MockTheWeek'': While discussing a tortoise that had lost a leg and had it replaced with a wheel, Creator/DaraOBriain made jokes about the owners having to find another if it died and then having to cut off the poor thing's leg so that their children wouldn't realise.

What Is This, X?

  • The "[[Recap/SupernaturalS09E20Bloodlines Bloodlines]]" episode of ''Series/{{Supernatural}}'' shows that control of the {{UsefulNotes/Chicago}} underworld is divided between five families of monsters.
    —>'''Dean''': So you're tellin' me there are five monster families that run Chicago? What is this, ''Film/TheGodfather'' with fangs?

edited 19th Jan '15 2:06:52 AM by jormis29

Kakai from somewhere in Europe Since: Aug, 2013
#1877: Jan 19th 2015 at 7:53:48 AM

[up]Hello, Jormis.

  • The "in the 'Wishful Thinking' episode" should start the sentence. "Where wishes come true".
  • "Referring to the company".
  • "makes jokes", present tense.
  • No "the" before Chicago.

Rejoice!
starkitty93 from Texas Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Lovey-Dovey
#1878: Jan 19th 2015 at 5:31:09 PM

No Yay under Video Games

In The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword, Ambiguously Gay Big Bad Ghirahim displays some really unsettling subtext towards Link, what with him getting uncomfortably close to him and talking about how the two of them are "bound by a red string of fate" in a suggestive manner.Yeah it's as bad as it sounds.

edited 21st Jan '15 1:30:09 PM by starkitty93

Just another animation junkie
rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#1879: Jan 19th 2015 at 5:53:25 PM

^^ and ^^^: "the Chicago underworld" is correct

Becky: Who are you? The Mysterious Stranger: An angel. Huck: What's your name? The Mysterious Stranger: Satan.
Kakai from somewhere in Europe Since: Aug, 2013
#1880: Jan 20th 2015 at 6:45:09 AM

[up]Ah, okay. My bad. [up][up] Hi. Comma after "Link". "Yeah, it's as bad as it sounds" should be separate sentence, so dot after "manner".

Rejoice!
rzorrz Since: Aug, 2013
#1881: Jan 20th 2015 at 1:42:29 PM

As always - someone please post for me after checking.

Fury (2014)

  • Aborted Arc: While fighting against the Tiger, Fury's engine gets severly damaged, to the point of throwing oil all over the tank. It's never adressed again outside that very scene - it doesn't even affect the combat with said tank.
  • Armor-Piercing Question: Downplayed, as the film is on the cynical end of the Sliding Scale of Idealism Versus Cynicism, but still we've got this exchange:
—>Binkowski: Why we're rescuing kittens instead of just driving down to Berlin? —>Wardaddy: Why you're such an asshole?
  • "Could Have Avoided This!" Plot: The entire crew of Fury notes that they could just hide and let the SS batallion pass, as they are in no condition to fight them on anything even remotely close to equal ground.
  • Darker and Grittier: Than Saving Private Ryan, toward which there are countless not-so-subtle nods. It's also much more graphic than typical war film.
  • Darkest Hour: Happens twice:
    • The encounter with the Tiger tank. The first downed Sherman was taken by complete surprise. Then American guns prove to be completely ineffective. And within seconds Fury is the only tank left from four-tank platoon of seasoned veterans.
    • Entire infantry batallion surrounds Fury, with it's crew out of ammo and the tank being immobilised. It's only a matter of time now.
  • Everybody Smokes: To the point where Norman is ridiculed for not doing so.
  • Hopeless War: It's mid-April 1945. Nazi Germany have already lost the war and can't do a thing about it, but the High Command still haven't surrended, to chagrin of everyone, Germans included.
  • Goggles Do Nothing: Inverted. They're standard-issue tanker googles, given to every crewman as part of their gear.
  • Good Guns, Bad Guns: Subverted. Don is carrying captured German StG 44, as it simply provides more firepower than anything else he could get. Later Bible is trying to get himself any German gun, as his Thompson ran dry.

edited 21st Jan '15 10:57:05 AM by rzorrz

Kakai from somewhere in Europe Since: Aug, 2013
#1882: Jan 21st 2015 at 3:31:41 AM

[up]Hi. As usual - I'll check it and put it on its page later.

That's all I see.

edited 21st Jan '15 3:31:55 AM by Kakai

Rejoice!
rzorrz Since: Aug, 2013
#1883: Jan 21st 2015 at 10:25:39 AM

Nah, the lines go like this. After all, the famous "two kinds of people" line from The Good, the Bad and the Ugly is with equally famous mistake... yet people keep on correcting it ever since - right to it's page on TV Tropes. But I've misattributed the line to the wrong person.

And yup, it should go with "have" for Hopeless War. Now it should be all in order.

edited 21st Jan '15 10:39:03 AM by rzorrz

MrForsaken Since: Jan, 2014
#1884: Jan 21st 2015 at 1:07:51 PM

Reposting my old ones and adding new ones. I'm suspended so I cannot post them on pages myself, so if they're okay English-wise, can anybody do it?

Creator Backlash under Comics Books:

  • Mark Millar went on a record to say he hates Trouble and considers it's his worst work. Might apply to The Unfunnies too, since his official website doesn't seem to acknowledge it's existence.

Inventor of the Mundane Comic Books

  • In Runaways this is given as a reason why Chase's parents are wealthy enough to hang out with families of other characters, whose parents are doctors, businessmen and famous actors, among others. Subverted because it's a lie - his parents, just like those of other kids, are actually supervillains in control of entire West Coast criminal underground.

Reality Ensues/Comic Books:

Take That!/Comic Books section, Marvel, right under Uncanny Avengers and All-New X-Men examples:

  • And to make it full circle, All-New X-Men received a diss in one of Hickman's series, New Avengers - during his What the Hell, Hero? rant, Beast from the past tells his older counterpart exactly how stupid and petty bringing past versions of Original Five X-Men to the present (in other words, the entire premise of All-New X-Men), just to spite Cyclops, was.

X-Force:

  • Wham Episode:
    • Issues #11-12: Fantomex seduced Meme, knowing very well she is Hope and is underage, in order to copy Murituri virus from her. He turns on the rest of the team and makes it very clear to Hope how much he manipulated her, just to hurt her more.
  • Moral Event Horizon: Fantomex crossed it by either killing ForgetMeNot or manipulating Hope in order to get more powerfull and then gloating in her face about it.

edited 21st Jan '15 1:09:18 PM by MrForsaken

Kakai from somewhere in Europe Since: Aug, 2013
#1885: Jan 22nd 2015 at 12:55:50 PM

[up]Hello, Mr Forsaken. I'll check it here and post it on the pages tomorrow.

  • Creator Backlash: "went on a record saying". "considers it to be his worst work". "acknowledge its existence".
  • Inventor of the Mundane is fine.
  • Reality Ensues: "after the first battle".
  • Take That!: "and to make it a full circle". There should be dot or ":" sign instead of a dash after "New Avengers". No commas before "just" and after "Cyclops".
  • Wham Episode: If it happens in this issue, it should be "seduces". If not, it's fine.
  • Moral Event Horizon: "Fantomex crosses it" and "powerful", with single "l".

Rejoice!
jormis29 Since: Mar, 2012
#1886: Jan 22nd 2015 at 11:17:30 PM

Fiery Salamander

  • Sasuke the Demon-Queller fights a giant, [[BreathWeapon fire-breathing]] salamander {{Yokai}} in the ''Comicbook/UsagiYojimbo'' GraphicNovel, "Yokai".

Dumb Dodo Bird

  • ''WesternAnimation/AmericanDad'' "Steve and Snot's Test-Tubular Adventure": Stan brings home a Daren, a dodo cloned by the {{CIA}} that has to be repeatedly saved from killing itself. The first time Stan introduces Daren, it coats itself in oil, breads itself, and sits in a pan on the stove after lighting the burner.

This Ain't Rocket Surgery

  • ''WesternAnimation/AstroBoy'': Toby finishes a pop quiz in a few seconds and his teacher is astonished. Toby shrugs the teacher's amazement off, saying "for rocket science, it wasn't exactly rocket science".

Symbol Swearing

  • ''Series/{{Grimm}}'': At the end of the "[[Recap/GrimmS3E12TheWildHunt The Wild Hunt (Part One)]]" episode, Monroe's parents attack Nick when they realize that he is a [[TheHunter Grimm]] and the screen fades to Oh #*@%!!!.

edited 23rd Jan '15 1:50:51 AM by jormis29

rzorrz Since: Aug, 2013
#1887: Jan 23rd 2015 at 1:39:24 AM

Same as always - someone please post after checkout. Sorry for lenght, but I didn't want to make another Hobbit trilogy out of my posts for this film.

Fury (2014):

—>Wardaddy:There might be a wolf hiding between sheep. (...) Anything that makes a move - you cut them right in half. People get in way - that's their problem.
  • Meaningful Name: Norman, which sounds and is often pronounced like "normal". As in "the only normal crewman".
  • Obligatory War Crime Scene: On both sides, despite Americans supposedly being the "good guys".
  • No OSHA Compliance: After returning to the camp in the first act, Don is smoking right between two huge fuel containers.
  • Playing Possum: Invoked by Gordo, who wants to be extra sure that none of the German soldiers will get up and burn their tank.
  • R-Rated Opening: Taken Up To Eleven. Not only in the very first scene the camera slowly pans over battlefield full of mud, mutilated bodies and destroyed tanks, but also one of the main characters pulls a brutal, graphic and lethal No-Holds-Barred Beatdown on enemy officer. After which he and his crew drop few Cluster F-Bombs in casual dialogue.
  • Reality Is Unrealistic:
    • Every single Sherman tank aside of Fury is instantly set ablaze upon penetration has nothing to do with Plot Armor. For almost entire war ammunition was stored all around the Sherman tanks, increasing their vulnerability to catching disastrous fires and/or explosions upon penetration, but unlike the common myth, it had nothing to do with M4 design as such. When Fury is penetrated in the climax, there are no more shells left, hence no instant fire.
  • Revolvers Are Just Better: Wardaddy's side-arm is Smith & Wesson M1917 revolver.
  • Taught by Experience: Norman didn't even attend basic tanker training before being reasigned as Fury's crewman.
  • Working-Class Hero: While the film is clearly favouring blue-collar, low ranking personel as the "real" soldiers who do all the dirty job and actual fighting, Coon-Ass comes out as a vicious deconstruction of this trope, showing exactly how primitive and crude character with such background can turn out.
  • Wounded Gazelle Gambit: Zig-Zagged. Fury's right track is indeed busted, but the crew makes it look as if the whole tank was just a burning wreck.

edited 24th Jan '15 1:24:15 AM by rzorrz

Kakai from somewhere in Europe Since: Aug, 2013
#1888: Jan 23rd 2015 at 8:15:58 AM

[up][up]Hi, Jormis.

That's it.
[up]Good afternoon, rzorrz.
  • Obligatory War Crime Scene: "despite Americans supposedly being the good guys"
  • Reality Is Unrealistic: I'm not quite sure what do you mean by the first sentence. And "at that point" is redundant. You can eventually write "At the point when Fury is penetrated, there are no shells left..."
  • Wounded Gazelle Gambit: "makes it look as if the whole tank was". Oh, the wonders of unreal past... :/
I'll post the rest already.

Rejoice!
rzorrz Since: Aug, 2013
#1889: Jan 23rd 2015 at 8:48:37 AM

Done, should be ok now.

... and then they say Polish grammar is bizzare...

edited 24th Jan '15 1:23:13 AM by rzorrz

jormis29 Since: Mar, 2012
#1890: Jan 24th 2015 at 1:47:41 AM

Indian Burial Ground

  • ''Series/{{Gotham}}'': In the "[[Recap/GothamS1E7PenguinsUmbrella Penguin's Umbrella]]" episode, Maroni offers Falcone control over Indian Hill, described as a "toxic waste dump on top of an Indian burial ground", to stop the MobWar. Fish calls it worthless, but Falcone disagrees, saying nothing is worthless.

Hand of Glory

  • ''TabletopGame/{{Shadowrun}}'': The 5th edition Street Grimoire details a {{Necromancy}} [[RitualMagic ritual]] for creating a Hand of Glory that allows the magician to use the skills of the person that the hand was taken from. To reuse the Hand, it must be treated with the blood of magician but doing this can lead to darker forms of BloodMagic. The book also advises against trying to posses more than one Hand of Glory, warning that the Hands may seek vengeance on their creator if not used - idle hands being the devils tools and all that.

School Festival

  • ''Manga/{{Mx0}}'': [[MagicSchool Seinagi Private Academy]] has two school festivals every year. One is just for the school with all manner of fantastical events and another where they lock away all the magical stuff and do more mundane attractions for the pubic to keep up the TheMasquerade.

Eat Dirt, Cheap

  • [[OurDragonsAreDifferent Gronckle dragons]] from the ''WesternAnimation/HowToTrainYourDragon'' franchise consume stones and boulders by melting them with the intense heat in the bellies. According to Fishlegs, Meatlug's favourite food is granite and limestone disagrees with him. In the "[[Recap/DragonsRidersOfBerkS2E15ATaleOfTwoDragons A Tale of Two Dragons]]" episode, Meatlug proves to be immune to the effects of the Dragon Root because of its diet while all the other dragons started fighting each other when they got near it.

rzorrz Since: Aug, 2013
#1891: Jan 24th 2015 at 2:11:43 AM

I'm running out of pre-written entries ^^ Again, someone please post after checking

Haywire:

  • Cruel and Unusual Death: [[spoiler Kenneth's leg gets accidently jammed between two rocks on a deserted beach. Mallory left him there with the incoming tide]].
  • Framing Device: Sizable chunk of the film is Mallory's story to Scott. And while by this we know she succeeded with escape from Dublin, it doesn't lessen the tension from the chase sequence even by a bit.
  • Never Trust a Trailer: Both of them mismarketed the film as yet another action flick with spectacular set pieces and bombastic, gritty soundtrack, while it's a medium-paced spy thriller with soft, retro track straight from the 70's. Plus they showed Mallory as some sort of super spy going rogue, where she's "just" a former-Marine-turned-merc.
  • Paper-Thin Disguise: A simple green hoodie and acting casually was enough to get pass the police blocade. Granted, Mallory looks like a guy in it, but still.
  • Private Military Contractors: An important part of Mallory's characterisation is that she works in the private sector. This allows her to toy with [[spoiler Kenneth during the setup in the Kane's family house]] and force him to admit he's not a federal agent.
  • Properly Paranoid: Mal doesn't trust Paul from the very beginning, starting with bugging his phone and ending with [[spoiler taking her high heels off right when she was sure of incoming attack]].
  • Reality Ensues: More or less the whole film runs on playing spy thriller as close to the ground as possible.
  • Trailers Always Spoil: We know that [[spoiler Paul will be shot before we ever learn who he is and that Kenneth is the bad guy]]. Oh, and the very final scene is in it too, with obvious context of what is going on.
  • Unwitting Pawn: [[spoiler Everyone from Barcelona's "hostage rescue", where the "hostage" was actually secured in a safe house with guards. Aaron gets really pissed upon learning this]]. Too bad he is shot at the very same moment he learns the truth.
  • Why Don't You Just Shoot Him?: Rare justified case. Mallory wants to get informations from [[spoiler Kenneth]], so shooting him In the Back would gain her nothing.

edited 25th Jan '15 8:22:39 AM by rzorrz

lexicon Since: May, 2012
#1892: Jan 24th 2015 at 9:47:44 AM

Genre Savvy: Mal doesn't trust Paul from the very beginning, starting with bugging his phone and ending with [[spoiler taking her high heels off right when she was sure of incoming attack]].

That's not an example of Genre Savvy.

Plus they showed Mallory as some sort of super spy...

An important part of Mallory's characterization is that she works in the private sector. This allows her to toy with [[spoiler Kenneth during the setup in the Kane's family house]] and force him to admit he's not a federal agent.

rzorrz Since: Aug, 2013
#1893: Jan 24th 2015 at 11:02:01 AM

I'm an idiot. It was suppose to be a Properly Paranoid, not Genre Savvy. But I'm also sure as hell characterisation is as good as characterization, just like civilisation is the same as civilization (unless we are talking about other kind of civ).

I guess it should be all right now.

edited 24th Jan '15 11:14:21 AM by rzorrz

Kakai from somewhere in Europe Since: Aug, 2013
#1894: Jan 24th 2015 at 1:18:06 PM

[up]Hi, rzorrz. Lexicon caught everything, but you still have to add "her" after "allows" in Private Military Contractors.

4x[up]Evening, Jormis.

That's it.

edited 24th Jan '15 1:19:23 PM by Kakai

Rejoice!
rzorrz Since: Aug, 2013
#1895: Jan 24th 2015 at 3:16:43 PM

I must have missed it. Not it's done for sure ^^

lexicon Since: May, 2012
#1896: Jan 25th 2015 at 12:11:02 AM

You're right about characterisation. It's the British spelling. It looks like you've fixed everything except it's, "An important part of Mallory's characterisation... since the characterisation belongs to Mallory.

jormis29 Since: Mar, 2012
#1897: Jan 25th 2015 at 2:10:48 AM

Significant Anagram

  • ''WesternAnimation/BewareTheBatman'': Dane Lisslow, the man who Harvey Dent appoints as the head of the Special Crime Unit and befriends Bruce, is also known as [[spoiler: [[{{ComicBook/Deathstroke}} Slade Wilson]].]]

Organ Theft

  • ''WesternAnimation/TheBoondocks'' "The Lovely Ebony Brown": Robert flashes back to a date with a woman he met through Facebook called Dr. Ellen Jackson that ended with Robert bound in a bathtub of ice and the boys tackling her before she could get to work with a scalpel.

Chalk Outline

  • ''WesternAnimation/TheBoondocks'' "The Fund-Raiser": When Riley's fake charity moves into the ''{{Film/Scarface}}'' Suite of a hotel, the cleaning staff are picking up empty bullet shells and washing away a chalk outline.

Reincarnation

  • The titular character of ''Series/GuinevereJones'' is the reincarnation of Guinevere from ArthurianLegend and as an "old soul", she has magical powers.

Kakai from somewhere in Europe Since: Aug, 2013
#1898: Jan 25th 2015 at 2:38:41 AM

[up]Hello, Jormis.

  • In Organ Theft, it should be "tied up" instead of "bound", as you bind to something.
  • Chalk Outline: "into the "Scarface" hotel suite".
That's all.

Rejoice!
rzorrz Since: Aug, 2013
#1899: Jan 25th 2015 at 8:23:16 AM

Now it should finally be ok ^^; Phew.

Right when I came with a "new" batch. Standard - please post after checking.

The Postman:

  • Just Following Orders: Inverted. Gordon is devastated, because he doesn't issue any orders for his men to follow - they choose by themselves to conduct many barbaric acts to later blame Holnists for them.
  • Keystone Army: Given how Holnists' ranks work, killing all of their high command in final chapter inavetably leads to their demise as an organised force. Without that unity they not only become easier targets, but it's also heavily implied they start fighting each other for the command, every gorilla for himself.
  • Knight in Sour Armor: Both Gordon and George Powhatan, who are so sour that it gives them wrinkles. The overarching motive in the story is their realisation that the lofty ideas of pre-war world are all that's left worth living and standing for.
  • Laser-Guided Karma: Roger Septien, the robber from the very first pages of the book, is eventually killed by Johnny when he and Gordon are escaping Holnists HQ, as he is unlucky enough to stand on guard in vital spot.
  • Life Will Kill You: It's never clearly stated, but apparently sizable chunk of militia unit Gordon was serving in died out of malnutrition and dental infections caused by low higiene. In fact, the death toll from those was bigger than from attacks they repelled. [note]this happend many years before the proper story, hence past tense - it's already a distant past within the book[/note]
  • Made a Slave: Anyone captured alive by Holnists. This also includes Sex Slaves.
  • Matriarchy: And a noble one - Pine View is guided by elderly Mrs Thompson. First chapter is much more prone to use tribalistic references and thus even narration calls her a matriarch few times.
  • Medal of Dishonor: Johnny is very thankful for Gordon's sharp mind and that little whistle... while Gordon was busy contemplating abandoning the whole unit and wasted a lot of time on thinking about it instead of acting and thus providing some real advantage.
  • Mistreatment-Induced Betrayal: The two slaves that release Gordon and Johnny and help them escape.

The worst bane of any fanboy - sitting on a pile of tropes and they just keep piling without any way to post them.

edited 26th Jan '15 11:06:17 AM by rzorrz

jormis29 Since: Mar, 2012
#1900: Jan 26th 2015 at 3:02:10 AM

Flushing Toilet, Screaming Shower

  • ''Series/That70sShow'' "Too Old to Trick or Treat, Too Young to Die": Laurie does it to Kelso when she finds him in the Foreman's shower as part of a PsychoShowerMurderParody.

Moon-Landing Hoax

  • ''Series/ArrestedDevelopment'' "[[Recap/ArrestedDevelopmentS4E4TheBTeam The B. Team]]": Creator/RonHoward keeps the Lunar Excursion Module that was used to fake the landings in his office and holds meetings in it.
    —>'''Ron''': Hey, let’s go inside the LEM. You want to?
    '''Michael''': Is this the one that landed on the moon?
    '''Ron''': On a soundstage.
    '''Michael''': Oh, right, from ''{{Film/Apollo 13}}''.
    '''Ron''': No, no, 1969. I'll tell you about it inside the LEM. It's soundproof in there. And it's a national secret. (''Cut to the inside of the LEM''). So, NASA did go to the moon in 71. That one was real. But in 69, they weren't ready, so they faked the whole thing on the soundstage of ''Gentle Ben''.
    '''Michael''': Boy.
    '''Ron''': Me and [[Creator/ClintHoward my brother]], we hid up in the rafters. We’ve seen the whole thing.

Out of Order

  • Creator/TheABC showed the fourth season of ''Series/ArrestedDevelopment'' in order of characters around which each episode revolved. For example, the first and fourth episodes, "[[Recap/ArrestedDevelopmentS4E1FlightOfThePhoenix Flight of the Phoenix]]" and "[[Recap/ArrestedDevelopmentS4E4TheBTeam The B. Team]]", were shown as the as the first two episodes because they both followed Michael.

Hologram

  • ''Film/S1m0ne'': When reporters start asking questions about the whereabouts of the titular InventedIndividual, Viktor fakes a live concert using a hologram and it is so perfect that it manages to fool the thousands of people watching.

edited 30th Jan '15 4:10:58 AM by jormis29


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