To-do list:
- Move examples fitting the original definition (a cataclysm in the past has become a myth in the present) to From Cataclysm to Myth, leave examples fitting "a civilization fell as a result of its own hubris" under the name And Man Grew Proud, and remove examples that don't fit either (or move them to another trope if they fit). Feel free to use Sandbox.And Wicks Were Cleaned to keep track of which namespaces have been cleaned.
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Note: This thread was proposed by nw09, who gave permission for others to make it.This is supposed to be about when a cataclysmic event occurs and it results in a myth about it later, but the title indicates none of this and instead it's misused for either cataclysms in general, or just humankind growing proud in general.
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- By the Waters of Babylon:John describes the apocalyptic event that ended the "gods" era as "The Great Burning" while also describing it with language ("fire falling from the sky", "deadly mist") that is suggestive of bombs, poison gas and or nuclear fallout. In the future, surviving tribal humans believe that the ruins of New York City are really The Place of Gods, where none can go.
- Characters.The War Of Drekis: As with all great empires that followed, the Aelsheans became a victim of their own greed and arrogance.
- Xenozoic Tales: Whether the Old Blood Mechanics story of what caused the end is true or not is a matter of debate.
- Characters.TNO Western Siberia: If Omsk initiates a nuclear war, an event can play where a woman tells her child a warped version of events decades after the bombs fall, of how Yazov led the Black League to victory... and then realized exactly how much devastation he brought to the world. He spent the rest of his life after the Great Trial rebuilding the world, and instilled in his family line a sense of duty spurred by massive guilt over what their lineage had done.
- Inhuman Eye Concealers: In Final Fantasy X, the Al-Bhed are labelled heretics by the luddite Church of Yevon due to their use of technology, as Yevon insists that reliance on advanced technology led to the downfall of humanity and the creation of the Eldritch Abomination Sin, which has been ravaging the land for the last thousand years. While Al-Bhed mostly look human, their eyes have a distinctive spiral-shaped pupil, and as such often wear goggles to hide their eyes when traveling among Yevonites. This explicitly comes up when the Al-Bhed character Rikku asks to join the party as one of Yuna's guardians; Auron asks to see Rikku's eyes to confirm that she's an Al-Bhed, and the latter reluctantly agrees.
- Devil, but No God: While the book of The Lord of the Rings averts this trope (see below), this is the impression of someone who only watched the movies and never read any of the book or backstory. It's possible to watch the movies without ever learning that Gandalf is a maia (or even what a maia is), or the existence of the Valar or Eru, or know about the downfall or Númenor. Something subtly influences everyone's fate and sends Gandalf back from the dead, but it is sufficiently abstract and distant when compared to Sauron as to qualify for this trope.
- Neglectful Precursors: The people of Motavia in Phantasy Star IV would like to file for damages against their predecessors, the space-faring civilization of the first two games. They brought their civilization to Motavia, but after the Great Collapse, they failed to properly clean up their messes and Lost Technology, resulting in Biomonsters spawned from their old bio-systems research facilities and Killer Robots from their manufacturing facilities infesting the entirety of the planet, and the remnants of the old climate control facilities causing environmental degradation and earthquakes. The plaintiff does, however, recognize that the defendants' civilization was dealing with its own problems at the time, and had also been badly weakened by the manipulations of Dark Force and its pawns.
- All Myths Are True: And Man Grew Proud, Domino Revelation, and Prophecies Are Always Right are Sub-Tropes of this.
- The Outer Limits 1995 S 4 E 17 Lithia: A variation occurs in the episode, as it takes place less than forty years After the End and the accompanying myths have been deliberately created. The teacher Ariel, whose grandmother Hera remembers life before the Great War when men ruled the world, tells the children of the enclave that, in the aftermath of the war, the Goddess unleashed a plague known as the Scourge which killed all surviving males as punishment for their evil.
- Doctor Who S23 E1 "The Mysterious Planet": Played for laughs. The underground colony of survivors on a far-future Earth renamed Ravalox, which has been ravaged by a fireball, refer to three sacred texts that are the only few surviving books they have, which govern their lives and their views of the world before the apocalypse, and which are trusted to learned scholars to unpack their meanings. They are, however, Herman Melville's Moby-Dick, Charles Kingsley's The Water Babies, and a guide to the UK Habitats of the Canadian Goose by 'HM Stationery Office', which is apparently the most mysterious. The Doctor is not impressed.
- Community S 5 E 05 Geothermal Escapism: Garrett's story in Shirley Island refers to the "Now-Now Time" following the arrival of the "Burny-Touch", with everyone gasping in amazement. For perspective, this is a few hours into a children's game about imaginary lava covering the floor we're talking about here.
- Cerulean Seas: Ages after the great flood drowned the world under the waves, the tales about drylanders have faded into legend.
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- A Canticle for Leibowitz: A common theme is that as society develops high technology and becomes able to build weapons of fantastic power, it loses touch with its spiritual and ethical side.
- Book of Genesis: Then Man built a tower intended to reach Heaven. God decided to put a stop to it and confuse the language of man. Which is why language classes are needed in the present day.
- From the New World: Psychokinesis is not the power of the gods. It's inherent in every human. Also, ogres and karma demons aren't monsters of legend. Karma demons are people who lose control of their Power, whereas ogres are people with Power whose Power Limiter doesn't work.
- Grasshopper Jungle: This seems to be the view of the main characters regarding the actions of Mc Keon Industries and their disregard for the possible consequences of creating an army of giant, bulletproof, fast-maturing, praying mantises.
- The Lost Fleet: Every ship named Invincible has a very short lifespan - by the standards of a fleet where it's almost unheard of for a ship to survive three years past its commissioning. Most sailors believe that the name is an affront to the living stars, although fleet engineers see this superstition as pointless, especially since no captain will have his or her ship be repaired with parts salvaged from an Invincible. Despite this, the fleet bureaucracy refuses to retire the name and keeps naming new ships Invincible as soon as one is destroyed. They get really annoyed when Geary and another admiral choose to christen a captured bear-cow superbattleship Invincible. Even that one is destroyed in Leviathan, but it serves as a distraction for the dark ships, giving Geary's fleet some much needed time.
- The Riyria Revelations: The Novron empire reigned for centuries, giving humanity advanced knowledge of magic, decent sanitation and cities with buildings that were six stories tall. Esrahaddon, a Fish out of Temporal Water who is the only known human survivor from this era, laments just how far humanity has fallen since then.
- BabylonFive.Tropes A To H: The monks portion of Deconstruction of Falling Stars, which itself was
an unconsciousa blatant homage to A Canticle for Leibowitz.- The intro to "In the Beginning" qualifies as this.
- The leadership of the human race appears to have started to get delusions of grandeur as they began to expand into the galaxy with the help of the Centauri, and began to grow more expansionist and militant. After a successful war against a species called the Dilgar the human leadership believed they could handle anything that came their way. Then there was an unfortunate incident with a Minbari cruiser...
- Characters.Godzilla Planet Of The Monsters: As Godzilla towers over the humans, Metphies delivers a sinister sermon hailing it as a god of death and destruction.
"When those fleeting lives destined to die forget their humbleness and sing praise of their glory, such will shake the very heavens and split the earth, and they shall know the wrath of the divine. The inevitable incarnation of destruction. So, you show yourself at last. Since we last saw each other, it has been 20 years for us and 20,000 years for you. It's been awhile... Oh, King of Monsters."
- The Warded Man: After the Deliverer helped mankind defeat the corelings, man went to war with himself and the corelings rose up again to destroy civilization.
- Zodiacs: The world is set at least ten thousand years after a highly advanced society crumbled suddenly and left the world resource poor. The example campaign suggests the campaign setting is actually North America in the far future, but again, the implication is that that is up to individual GM decision
- Soul Power:
- Demon's Souls is Exactly What It Says on the Tin. Pretty much every game mechanic — leveling up stats, upgrading equipment, learning new spells and miracles, etc. — requires souls of some kind. The game specifically refers to this as "Soul Arts", and unfortunately, overuse of this kind of power also caused the whole mess that you're trying to fix in the first place.
- Characters.Dingo Doodles: He's seen reading a book named "Lvl. 12 magic" in episode 18. There exists exactly one 12th level spell in all of D&D, Karsus' Avatar, and the last time someone cast it ended up... Not good.
- Characters.The Legend Of Zelda Breath Of The Wild Hylians And Sheikah: Invoked. Millenia ago, a King of Hyrule grew fearful of the mystical prowess of the Sheikah and banished them from Hyrule. Despite this betrayal, most of the Sheikah chose to simply give up most of their magitek and live a quiet life in Kakariko — those who rejected this idea became the Yiga Clan. Doesn't look like a cataclysm
- Scale of Scientific Sins: Proud scientists will actively try to check off as many of these sins as they can as a proof of their scientific genius.
- The Very Definitely Final Dungeon: In a Scavenger World, it's a fully armed and operational battlestation from legend.
- Omniscient Morality License: The title character in the Realm of the Elderlings book Golden Fool argues that, despite their obvious threat and fickle behavior, dragons must be saved from extinction. He/She makes the case that without another powerful influence to counterbalance them, Humanity will become uncontrollable and destroy itself.
- Advanced Ancient Acropolis: Fire Emblem: Three Houses has this, in a first for the franchise. The lost civilization of Agartha, a technologically advanced nation millennia ago grew arrogant and waged war against the goddess Sothis, who paid them back by wiping out Agartha. Unlike most other examples of this trope, Agartha continues to exist into the present day via the descendants of the survivors of the war, who live in a secret Underground City known as Shambhala. And to top it all off, the Agarthan descendants (now known as "Those Who Slither in the Dark"), are still dedicated to their war of extermination against the goddess and her Children, and they still possess a good chunk of their ancestors' advanced technology and know how to use them: besides living space, Shambhala is also host to a battery of long-range missile silos, and is heavily defended with electrical cannons and Humongous Mecha armed with massive swords that shoot out energy beams.
- Absurdly Cool City: In Deltora Quest, Tora is the magically shielded, self-sustaining city left behind from when And Man Grew Proud. It is all carved of seamless marble, except the plinth that symbolized their vow of loyalty towards Del's kings, and filled with tapestries and fresh fruit that the protagonists (who come from the more medieval lands outside) find extremely welcome.
- Soul Power: Demon's Souls is Exactly What It Says on the Tin. Pretty much every game mechanic — leveling up stats, upgrading equipment, learning new spells and miracles, etc. — requires souls of some kind. The game specifically refers to this as "Soul Arts", and unfortunately, overuse of this kind of power also caused the whole mess that you're trying to fix in the first place.
- Triptych Continuum Bitter Sweet: The downfall of the Worthy line began the moment they forgot that it was the zebras that had invented chocolate, and began to believe that it was their invention.
- City of 7 Seraphs: Early in Raxsynsis' history, the House of Heights experimented with the spiritual binding force in two massive cities: the City of Heaven and Ianran, the City of Rings. This ended with a magical civil war which ended with most Eternals killed, the City of Heaven collapsing and Ianran losing the overseers who could drive its powers to their fullness. Only the rise of other magics kept society intact. In time the people would divide into three societies, two of which try to bind the vestiges of the Eternals or piece together the arcane sciences left behind after the 'War of Heaven'. Adventurers visiting Raxsynsis are likely to become assumed that they are representatives of the ancient Eternals.
- Codex: What happened to the Empires preceding this one, they mostly dabbled in the demon thing (guess where the sealed evil comes from).
- C°ntinuum: roleplaying in The Yet: Antedesertium is an entire time span of thousands of years where Africa is ruled by Narcissist kings of time and space, granting Schizo Tech to the population, and performing experiments on causality itself. Eventually, they come to look nothing like humans, and then their whole civilization collapses at Interregnum, a massive Temporal Paradox-laden no man's land, where time travelers instantly Frag out if they try to span. Interregnum caused a massive axial shift that left the Sahara a desert.
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- Ardath: Basically the whole point of the Al-Kyris part of the story.
- Friends with Benefits: House of Proletariat all but guaranteed this when they set themselves to eradicating the Equestrians.
- The Outer Limits 1995 S 4 E 17 Lithia: The downfall of the Worthy line began the moment they forgot that it was the zebras that had invented chocolate, and began to believe that it was their invention.
- Monster Rancher S 1 E 12 Monols Story After The End: The current monster world was built on the remnants of the ancient Pangean civilization.
- Dimension X 31 Universe: However, mutiny caused the ship to go off-course.
- Codename Kids Next Door S 3 E 6 A Operation ARCHIVE: The Super Double Mega Triple Treehouse was meant to be the ultimate monument to kiddom. It's also The Last Straw that sparks the adult rebellion.
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- ComicBook.Secret Wars 2015: Issue #2 of Secret Wars opens up with one of the Thors explaining how Battleworld came to be. It explicitly leaves out everything that came before, and suggests that either the world itself has existed for at least a generation before the plot of the story really kicks off, or everyone has had memories implanted. Issue #3 confirms that it has been 8 years since Battleworld was created.
- Archaeological Arms Race: In the Warhammer 40,000 universe, this is often the case when different factions in the Imperium of Man (especially the Adeptus Mechanicus) end up fighting each other, as they've become technologically backwards and most of their best technology is either relics they've dug up (or stolen from each other) or created by the few xenos they haven't killed on sight. The Mechanicus also bans innovation as heresy against the ancients, forcing them to obtain all tech from archaeological relics built during the Dark Age of Technology.
- Odd Job Gods: In any of the Neptunia games, the CPU goddesses (aka the Playable Characters) do quests, build a nation, and govern the people. There's a reason for that first one.
- Medieval Stasis: As a result of the ancient civilization's disastrous war, the System was implemented. To promote personal combat, certain chemical reactions such as the burning of gunpowder is suppressed within the System.
- Mountaintop Healthcare: Lands of Creation describes the Pentarch Pyramid, one of many wonders built by the Exalted. The dedication of those patients strong enough to climb the ziggurat's many steps magically speeds up their healing in the hospital they reach; weaker patients can be carried up by their friends or pay for transportation. Even in the First Age, there's no such thing as a free lunch.
- Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions: In Metroid Prime 3: Corruption, Samus visits the planet Bryyo, which is covered in the ruins of a golden age, the history of which wavers between And Man Grew Proud and this trope. The Reptilicus people there originally had magical powers, then some of them learned how to use technology, and they decided that this was cooler than "primitive" magic. The Chozo warned the Reptilicus not to abandon their religious traditions, instead suggesting that they should embrace them along with their technological progress, as the Chozo themselves had done. Instead, the Lords of Science honked off the magic-using mystics, and there was a big magic-vs-technology war that tore the planet apart. Literally. The Lords of Science won (at first) because by salvaging the planet (more or less), they could prove that their side was better, but this led to the mystics finding their secret location and wiping them out. Without the Lords of Science, the remaining Reptilicus devolved into magical barbarism.
- Pointless Doomsday Device: One of these left behind by the Blackmoor civilization, then found and tinkered with by some ignorant elves, is the reason why one region of the Mystara game-setting is known as the Broken Lands.
- Power Perversion Potential: In Education of Cyfranius, the second Nested Story outlines the history of a planet where technological progress left the population idle making fornication their favorite activity. This lead to creation of many industries, professions and devices. Most are mentioned only by Punny Names and their exact meaning is left for readers to deduce. Among the ones somewhat elaborated upon are such things as trimaturgy — dramatizing family life by building Love Triangles; bodymaster — a (rich) person controlling multiple gengineered bodies; spiritstove — a device to torture to death a recorded consciousness of a living or fictional person; exterrier — a former dog; piter — a person erased from global information network by mistake and hiding from civilization in a pit (people enjoying sex with anonymous piters employed packs of trained exterriers to search for them).
- Prequel in the Lost Age: In a series set After the End, especially if it's so long After The End that the Golden Age is nothing but myth and legend, one constant factor is that the Golden Age and its end will be tied in with the plot somehow, whether this means Lost Technology for the heroes to use, or a Big Bad who is a Living Relic from those times and is plotting to bring them back at any cost.
- Babylon Five S 04 E 22 The Deconstruction Of Falling Stars: The portion after the "Great Burn" as seen in the 32nd Century.
- Babylon Five Film 01 In The Beginning: Pretty much the theme of the movie.
- Dungeons & Dragons: While the "official" version was a released in 1977 as a combination battle report and gazetteer by Judges Guild, alternate versions appeared in both Greyhawk (as an archbarony near the Land of Black Ice) and Mystara (as a kingdom from the world's distant past that rose to great heights and quickly fell, changing the world in the process).
Edited by GastonRabbit on Jun 19th 2022 at 1:27:26 PM
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#27: Apr 18th 2022 at 8:04:11 AM
Would anyone mind if I added "redefine as hubris destroying a civilization and move the current definition to a new trope with a different name"?
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#28: Apr 18th 2022 at 9:15:55 AM
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Is that not already covered by the other tropes that were brought up?
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#29: Apr 18th 2022 at 9:24:12 AM
Would it be okay if I changed the last part to "move the examples matching the current definition elsewhere"?
Edited by ImperialMajestyXO on Apr 18th 2022 at 9:24:40 AM
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#30: Apr 18th 2022 at 10:44:39 AM
That would result in it saying basically the same thing. What I was asking is whether tropes like Look on My Works, Ye Mighty, and Despair already covered it.
But since I looked back and saw that you weren't sure, I'll add it.
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#31: Apr 18th 2022 at 10:46:33 AM
OK, I added it, and I think I'll do what I did with the Who Wears Short Shorts thread and delay calling the crowner by two days, so it'll be called on the 23rd instead of the 21st.
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#32: Apr 18th 2022 at 4:18:05 PM
Wanna add that the one for Exalted in Mountaintop Healthcare is a valid use of this trope, or at least close enough to count as a variant. The First Age was an ancient golden era that fell due to an unforeseen corruption driving the Solars to increasing cruelty and a prophecy that if left unchecked, it would lead to a disastrous outcome. This past age was deliberately mythologized with exaggerations of the Solar's villainy and monstrosity as part of an effort to stave off that potential future. The only issue is that it's not exactly After the End.
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#33: Apr 19th 2022 at 5:37:19 PM
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#34: Apr 23rd 2022 at 2:21:18 PM
Calling in favor of doing a Trope Transplant.
Looking back in the thread, these came up as options for names:
- From Cataclysm to Myth
- Post Post Apocalyptic World (already a redirect)
Any other suggestions before we decide on the name?
Your Past Cataclysm Is Our Current Myth also exists as a redirect, but I'm hesitant to use it since it sounds too much like a line of dialogue.
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#35: Apr 23rd 2022 at 9:16:13 PM
Cataclysm Fades To Myth? Legend Fades to Myth snowclone?
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#36: Apr 24th 2022 at 9:15:34 PM
Hooked a crowner between the four we already had and a few I improvised (but due to a lack of creativity they're mostly variants on existing names).
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#37: Apr 24th 2022 at 9:30:07 PM
So, this trope would be Legend Fades to Myth, where Apocalypses are the Legend under discussion?
Edited by Malady on Apr 24th 2022 at 9:30:25 AM
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#38: Apr 24th 2022 at 9:48:38 PM
I added new options that replace the "Mythologized" with the Commonwealth spelling "Mythologised". Keep in mind that if at least one of the names has enough consensus to become either the primary name or a redirect, the transatlantic equivalent(s) of the option(s) in question will become a redirect regardless of its own consensus.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Apr 24th 2022 at 11:48:59 AM
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#39: Apr 25th 2022 at 12:00:50 AM
Post Post Apocalyptic World isn't a good name, since it doesn't indicate what the trope is about any more than "And Man Grew Proud" does. In fact, less so.
Edited by nw09 on Apr 25th 2022 at 12:02:28 PM
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#40: Apr 27th 2022 at 5:28:04 AM
I think we can call since it's been 3 days. Surprised people liked my suggestion.
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#41: Apr 27th 2022 at 5:45:30 AM
Aw well. Just realized exactly what I didn't like about it. It sounds like one event changing into another, but it's actually one event changing into a retelling of the event... But I think it is Clear enough.
Just had the idea of Myth Based On A Cataclysm, as a Based on a True Story snowclone, but seems sorta long.
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#42: Apr 27th 2022 at 5:53:01 AM
From Cataclysm to Myth it is. I need to take a break after moving Kitsune to Asian Fox Spirit, so I turned From Cataclysm to Myth into a redirect for now so it's open to editing for non-mods.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Apr 27th 2022 at 8:11:00 AM
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#43: Apr 27th 2022 at 3:51:20 PM
Made a sandbox. It needs a description to fit the new definition.
Edited by nw09 on Apr 28th 2022 at 1:18:10 AM
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#44: Apr 30th 2022 at 8:22:51 PM
^A lot of examples in that sandbox don't seem to have much to do with the concept of "hubris destroys a civilization", which if I understand correctly is intended to be the new focus of And Man Grew Proud.
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#45: Apr 30th 2022 at 9:08:31 PM
I thought the sandbox was supposed to be for the From Cataclysm to Myth definition.
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#46: May 1st 2022 at 6:09:34 AM
The sandbox should be renamed and replaced with one for the definition that will actually go under And Man Grew Proud, then. Unless it's easier to do it one at a time, in which case never mind.
Edited by GastonRabbit on May 1st 2022 at 8:10:31 AM
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#47: May 1st 2022 at 2:20:07 PM
The sandbox is actually called "And Man Grew Proud".
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#48: May 5th 2022 at 12:05:47 PM
I've thought up a good Laconic for this, in regards to the new definition as "a civilization being destroyed by its own hubris":
"Society's pride comes before an apocalyptic fall."
There's so much I wish I could take back.
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#49: May 5th 2022 at 12:16:00 PM
Sounds good.
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#50: May 16th 2022 at 3:53:44 AM
I added a to-do list to the header and pinned it.
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Crown Description:
Cnsensus was to do a Trope Transplant by moving the current definition of And Man Grew Proud to a new name and reusing the name And Man Grew Proud for a trope defined as as hubris destroying a civilization. What name should And Man Grew Proud's current definition be moved to when the original name is repurposed for a new trope?
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I hooked a crowner so we can hopefully get this thread back on topic.
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