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#2101: Jan 16th 2024 at 2:37:20 AM

Yeah, those sound fine for a PG-13 movie

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#2102: Jan 16th 2024 at 6:35:50 PM

Gonna look through the Radar page for Sonny with a Chance. Never seen this show and I've barely heard of it, so I'm unsure about some of my answers - according to what I've looked up, it's rated TV-G, and (like many Disney and Nickelodeon live-action sitcoms at the time) had some innuendo.

Many of these jokes seem perfectly fine for the main target audience of preteens/young teenagers, though a few may count as Demographically Inappropriate Humor and similar tropes. Also, there are a lot of examples here that feel like shoehorns.

    SWAC Radar 
  • In the second-season opener, Tawni (wearing a garish pair of large clown pants that rustle) asks where the sound is coming from. In reference to a hula-dancing sketch they rehearsed earlier, Sonny says, "Oh, that's just Grady sanding his nuts."
My Comments: Might be a Double Entendre.


  • Let's not forget this gem:
    "Oh, that filthy cahooter!"
My Comments: Is "cahooter" that inappropriate? I guess it sounds a little like the somewhat-questionable word "cooter", but I don't think this is anything.


  • When Chad tells Nico and Grady that neither of them can ride in his car with him to an awards show because "Just because I'm arriving alone, doesn't mean I'm leaving alone..."
My Comments: Doesn't seem that inappropriate.


  • How about this that even the audience picked up:
    Grady: Uranus is mine!
My Comments: Uranus Is Showing jokes are common in kids' shows.


My Comments: Is it really that inappropriate for him to say he needs a girlfriend?


  • In one episode, Sonny has to play her teacher's boyfriend's part for a children's show, then the teacher walks in and does some rather sexy, suggestive moves and her voice getting lower, unaware this is her student...once Sonny's helmet is off, the teacher says "Well, this is weird."
My Comments: This might be okay for DIH.


  • In the Twilight parody episode, "Well, I hope you like him eating fish sticks!"
    • Oh, and "I think your fish sticks look a little dry." No wonder he gave her a strange look.
My Comments: This feels like someone might be reading too much into things.


  • In a "So Random" Christmas skit where Joe Jonas is delivered as a life size Ken doll for a little girl played by Zora. This would be enough but then they reveal that he has an alternate outfit.
    Zora: I want to change him!
    • and later,
    Zora: (holding up batteries) I wonder where the batteries go?
My Comments: Maybe DIH, but I'm not sure.


  • Sonny to Chad in "My Two Chads": "My charity is children's literacy, armadildork!"
    • In the same episode:
    Chad: Don't you want to set sail on the sea of forgiveness?
    Sonny: No, I'd rather set sail on the Titanic. At least those people got a nice meal before they went down.
My Comments: "Armadildork" seems like Accidental Innuendo at the most. The second one seems like it might be unintentional (if it's anything at all) as well.


  • In Grady With A Chance of Sonny, Tawni and Nico hang out and prank Chad by making him think the energy bar he is endorsing has numerous side effects, including intermittent hearing loss. Tawni makes him think this by saying "If you...more than four hours... hospital", to which Chad reacts with terror.
My Comments: "More than four hours... hospital" may count as DIH and/or PB.


  • "Going on a date with Chad is like going to water world. The first four rows get wet."
My Comments: Might count as some sort of Double Entendre-related trope depending on the context, but "wet" isn't an inherently dirty concept.


  • When Sonny is getting ready for her date with Chad, she is going over the various things she feels her outfit will need to suggest, including: "I'm interested but not too interested."
My Comments: Doesn't strike me as too inappropriate for a show like this.


My Comments: It sounds fairly dark, but I don't know if this is that inappropriate for the age rating. Depending on how it's played, it could count as Family-Unfriendly Violence.


  • In "Poll'd Apart", Sonny gets revenge on an obnoxious gossip columnist by making a So Random! sketch making fun of her. In response, said columnist mails the gang a death threat!
My Comments: Similar to what I mentioned above, it's dark, but I don't really think this violates TV-G.


  • In "Cheater Girls", the B-plot involves Nico trying to get one of the cute extras to notice him. All goes well until the extra turns out to be a male-to-female transgender (which is most notable due to her deep voice).
My Comments: I don't think there was a policy against depicting trans people on TV at the time. (Also, this entry sounds... rather transphobic from the way it's written.)


My Comments: This may be reading too much into things. "D" can also refer to a low test score.

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#2103: Jan 18th 2024 at 10:09:43 AM

[up] Yeah I agree with the analysis that you have given there. I wanted to next take a look at the page Storm Hawks, which is a TV-Y7 rated show.

  • See Les Yay.
    Les Yay isn't usually intentional so it's not a radar example.
  • For a less sexual example, in "Power Grab" and "The Ultra Dudes," it's heavily implied that Cyclonis's Elite Mooks killed off an entire tribe just because they were in the way.
    I've seen villians actually stated to do this in other Y7 shows, so just an implied mention is not the radar.
  • In one episode, we see a man whisper into one of the amazon women's ear. She responds with a disgusted look, and offscreen, you can easily hear her slap him.
    Slapping someone for being creepy doesn't seem too bad for the rating.
  • When Stork slips into his Ahab persona in "Leviathan", he mentions chasing the eponymous beast around "Perdition's flames". For those not in the know, perdition is another word for Hell.
    • Later on, he sneaks in another reference to Hell by saying "From Merb's heart, I stab at thee!" note 
    Maybe, I feel that referencing Hell in a historical or biblical context is usually safe.
  • In "Siren's Song", the crew finds themselves stuck in The Expanse, a vast cloudy vortex-plagued void that messes with their navigational instruments. They soon fall prey to a Sky Siren, who uses illusions to tempt each of them with something they truly desire. Finn sees a hot amazon woman on her way to a party. Once the crew starts realizing what's going on and resists the illusions, Finn's imaginary amazon multiplies and starts caressing him seductively, and he tries to distract himself with thinking about a sports championship, before they overpower him and smother him with pleasure.
    DIH
  • "Atmos' Most Wanted" has a scene where Wren opens up a compartment on the lower part of his armor and rummages around inside it. Cut to the Storm Hawks looking away, as if to dispel any doubts about this being deliberate.
    DIH
  • Also from "Atmos' Most Wanted", this line from Finn after failing to dodge a laser blast that turns his ride into cheese (long story) while giving a very girly scream:
    Finn: (sniffs) Is that me, or is that the cheese?
    Toilet Humor.

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#2104: Jan 27th 2024 at 8:23:32 PM

Do we have any salvageable entries in Radar.My Gym Partners A Monkey, or should it be axed?

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#2105: Jan 28th 2024 at 1:25:15 AM

[up]That came up before, and led to the creation of Joke of the Butt. I believe the consensus was to axe it.

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#2106: Jan 28th 2024 at 8:37:17 PM

Eh, I got time. I'll look it over.

    MONKEY MONKEY MONKEY 

My Gym Partner's a Monkey is no stranger to the trend of sneaking adult jokes into their show. Gym Partner's reliance on butt jokes, paves the way for what's to expect from their adult oriented comedy. The show has a knack for getting away with all of this, but one notable moment of them getting busted, was when the episode "The Butt of The Jake" was banned from syndication, for the seemingly innocent butt jokes being seen as a bit too "suggestive" for the child's eye. If you wanna know more information about this little incident, it's all here in the manual, so go on ahead and give this list a good read.

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  • There's a kid-friendly one in the opening sequence.
    Adam: Bullshark, porcupine, I don't know what. Going to this school's a pain in the-
    Jake: ADAM!
    Adam: What? I was gunna say "neck".
    Jake: Oh, that's okay then.
Subverted Rhyme Every Occasion with Parental Bonus / maybe Demographically Inappropriate Humor.

  • Given the diverse cast of human and animal blending, there's bound to be character romances that allude to bestiality. For example, Ingrid Giraffe's crush on the human Adam Lyon, or Nurse Gazelle dressing like a cute schoolgirl and being portrayed as "attractive", leading to furry fanservice. Sure, it's completely unintentional. It meant nothing at the time, but nowadays with the rise of cartoon furry fetishists going around, these elements of the show are goldmines of inspiration Rule 34 fanart pictures and NSFW bestiality fanfictions.

The animals are anthropomorphic enough to not make it weirder than any other anthropomorphic animal show. It's clear this troper was going off of their search history, not the show's intentions. Also this is besides the point, but anthro animals were depicted as attractive long before the internet. At best, the Nurse Gazelle thing is Parent Service.

Depends on the presentation but is probably PB / DIH.

  • Slips Python is a stoner. There's just no denying that.

From what I can remember, he's a generic ditzy character. No mention of any specific stoner culture here.

  • In "Chew on This", for a brief moment during Adam's visit to Nurse Gazelle's office, we can see Nurse Gazelle removing a rectal thermometer from Adam's butt. Also in hindsight, Gazelle had no reason to do that, since Adam only saw her because he felt light headed.
    • After all the characters have become morbidly obese, Principal Pixiefrog says "Our medical bills are going to be astronomical." Nurse Gazelle then replies with the aside comment, "That's not the only thing that's astronomical." Cut to a booty shot of Principal Pixiefrog's "astronomical butt", riding on a bicycle.

Joke of the Butt. Maybe the rectal thermometer gag can be toeing the line of DIH.

  • The episode titled "The "A" Word".
    • It's actually "Ape", but the way the word is treated in that episode is sort of, but not really similar to how The N Word is used, with Adam offending Jake by using the word "Ape". It doesn't go all the way, though, since In the end, it turns out "ape" is the nicest compliment one can use in the simian community, and Jake was just jealous Adam used it against someone else and not him.

Fantastic Slurs, which isn't inappropriate especially due to the twist.

  • In "Amazon Kevin", Lupe was in fear and exclaimed "It's happened! We've all died and gone to the bad place!"

Not sure, but it doesn't say "hell" so it's not GCPTR; CN shows have gotten away with implying Hell for years.

Parental Bonus at best.

  • In "She's Koala That", The Pack (except Adam) takes a beeline for a specific lunch table, just to get away from Deidre Koala. They all pile up onto one chair. When they do, a visual gag involves Jake clearly shoving himself up Windsor's ass.

Joke of the Butt.

  • In "Political Animals", Jake urges Adam to wear a football helmet, for his campaign speech, for safety purposes. Adam refuses to do this, seeing no reason to and Jake negotiates with him. Jake pleads to Adam, that at the very least, he wears a cup. Oh, and they actually show it on screen too, technically allowing showing an intentionally phallic object in a kids show.
    Pixiefrog: Hey, where's your helmet?
    Adam: What?
    Jake: No worries, Principal Pixiefrog, he's sporting a cup.
    Pixiefrog: Ah, very well then.

Hmmm, showing the cup might be something, though I know other shows like The Loud House also did so. DIH maybe?

  • In "Two Tons of Fun", Adam and Jake are curious to learn about animal mating rituals. So, they look into an encyclopedia about it. They apparently see a picture and they both scream and look away in disgust.
    • Mr. Hornbill wanted to woo Mrs. Tusk, by giving her a "Rhino Pie". (In Rhinoceros Culture, giving one's feces to another can be done as a romantic gesture or an invitation to mate). Unsurprisingly, Mrs. Tusk found this disgusting and rejected the box of unseen poop, emitting stink lines. To make things even worse, at the end of the episode, Jake said that what he learned from today's experience, was that whipped cream doesn't make rhino pie taste any better, as he licked some whipped cream off his lips. Yeah, they straight out made it official that Jake had eaten shit.

'''Demographically Inappropriate Humor for the first, grossout humor for the second.

  • Speaking of coprophagia, a major plot point in "Guano in 60 Seconds" was Jake eating bat guano.

Just grossout humor.

  • In "Up All Night", if one looks closely in the background, during certain scenes. There is a picture on the wall of Adam as a baby, pointing to a visible turd floating in the toilet. The picture is labeled "Baby's First", implying that these are photos of Adam's first time pooping in the toilet. seriously look.
    • While the boys acted like girls, throwing a slumber party, Adam quoted after his facial, "I feel fresh as a daisy".

Toilet Humor for the first, just... vaguely gender nonconforming behavior in the second.

  • In "I Got a New Aptitude", the opening lyric of the episode's musical number was "What's the point of going on?", a common phrase uttered, by those contemplating suicide. This only fits the sad tone of Adam and Jake feeling depressed, under the assumption that their lives are leading up to nothing.

Fridge Horror at best, but probably still reading way too into it.

Parental Bonus

  • In "The Magic Fish", Coach Gills nauseates Adam with going on a tangent about being an early bloomer as a teenager and telling him to imagine how she would've looked at that time.

Parental Bonus?

  • In "Ain't Too Proud to Egg", Mr. Hornbill showed the class an egg and asked if anyone could tell him what it was. Slips guessed "A constant reminder on why to stay in school?" Snakes lay eggs, when giving birth, making this the equivalent of a teen pregnancy joke.

An admittedly pretty slick Parental Bonus / DIH.

  • Though probably an accidental innuendo, in "Uniformity", Adam and Dickie (note the latter's name), used a Totem Pole Trench to go in disguise as a postal delivery man. With Adam on top, Dickie stuck his head out of the trench coat to talk to him. Given Dickie's short stature, he was located in a very penile region of the duo's false character. Adam would even look down at him and say "Dickie, Get back in there before anyone sees you!"

Outright admits it's an accidental innuendo.

  • In "The Little Mermonkey", there was an accidental mondegreen, where Jake intended to say "Adam's got a crab", but due to a voice acting mishap that apparently no one noticed, it sounded like "Adam's gotta crap." The reactions of the rest of the pack made it even more hilarious.

Outright admits it's Accidental Innuendo.

  • In "Sidekicked", Mrs. Warthog informs Slips, Adam, and Ingrid on how every animal species does something different. She then mentions that male seahorses give birth, which cuts to a shocked male seahorse student at the school, fainting. Seems passable enough, but in the episode's Stinger, this same seahorse was seen, pushing a carriage of his baby seahorses, making for another teen pregnancy joke.

Maybe a Parental Bonus? I'm not quite sure if it's inherently edgy enough to imply a minor has a baby if the minor's a seahorse.

  • The entirety of the episode "Flesh Fur Fantasy", seemed to be a metaphor for Blackface comedy.
    • Also, Windsor had students draw nude pics of him in his "human" suit.

Both just Does This Remind You of Anything? / Fantastic Racism.

  • In "Don't Noc It 'Til You Try It", a bunch of vandalism was spray painted on the wall of the school. One of them read the word "PORK!" in all capital letters. "Pork" is sometimes used as a slang term for "have sex with", in other words "fuck".
    • This can be seen as Truth in Television, since in real life, it's almost impossible to go to the back alley or bathroom stall of a middle or high school, without seeing some kind of spray-painted shock scenery.

Parental Bonus, with some natter.

  • In "The Citronella Solution", everyone was getting sprayed with citronella gasses. When Slips got sprayed, he started getting dazed and said "Oh, dude! That's some powerful stuff, man!", something that a stoner like him would say after smoking a batch of some crazy new drug, they all gotta try, man.

G-Rated Drug.

  • In "Mellow Fellows", Mr. Mandrill installed a bunch of ridiculous applications to his office. One of which was a flaming pit in the ground, containing a barbaric monster. The name of this place was "Hellgarvadar".

Okay this might actually be valid. I don't think CN allowed TV-Y7 shows to say "Hell" by this point.

  • In "The Frog Principal", Pixiefrog begins to give Adam and Jake a lecture on the dangers of kissing and misleads them into thinking he's going to give them a little PSA on safe-sex.
    Pixiefrog: Kissing. You guys may think it's harmless, but do you know what kissing can lead to?
    Adam: Uh ... don't we need a permission slip for this conversation to continue?
    Pixiefrog: Warts!

Parental Bonus.

  • In "The Butt of the Jake", (the episode was banned but not for this reason so it still counts), when Jake's butt inflated so big it eclipsed the sun, a Catholic nun was shown on screen as one of its witnesses, exclaiming "Good gracious children! An eclipse!" Usually, religious references are strictly prohibited in non-religious children's programming.
    Guy #2: It's beautiful!
    Guy #3: It's amazing!
    Hipster Blogger: I find it offensive.
    • This episode was banned because the network described it as being "Too Butt Filled", but that's normal for a MGPAM episode, so why'd this one get the boot? Well, the elephant in the room has to be the scene, which makes a reference to anal insertion, when Jake sits on his head at the lunch table and drinks soda through his butt. Butt = Filled, indeed.

It didn't actually get past the radar, though if the Ass Shove joke got the episode banned, the other implied Ass Shove joke(s) on this page might be valid.

  • In "The Ivy League", Mrs. Warthog posted extremely disturbing sexy bikini pictures of herself on the internet.

Fan Disservice; Fairly OddParents did a similar joke a few years prior.

  • In "The Notorious Windsor Gorilla", one scene parodies Inside the Actors Studio, with Principal Pixiefrog as James Lipton. Naturally, he asks Windsor the "10 Questions" and of course, the one we see is "What is your favorite naughty word?" Windsor responded by pounding his chest and making loud and primal ape noises, which apparently translates to something offensive in gorilla language.

Is this Parental Bonus enough?

  • In "Glazed and Confused", a one-off joke involves Adam wearing cloth around his head, holding a tombstone in one hand, and Jake's tail (bent into the shape of a cane) in another, made to look like Moses.
    • There's also the scene with Adam being forced to put lotion on Jake's butt, which just seems downright wrong.
    • The audience was also given an unwanted callback to Mrs. Warthog's bikini pictures from "The Ivy League". This time, a bunch of drooling men took interest in them and wanted to meet her in real life, with the intent of "eating her for dinner".

Not sure about religions references. The lotion sounds like Ho Yay. The Warthog bit is Does This Remind You of Anything?

  • Bull's flamboyant, effeminate, fashion loving behavior in "Hygiene Hijinks" is similar to a that of a stereotypical homosexual's.

Okay, and? CN allowed jokes about guys acting effeminate at this time, just not gay characters yet.

  • In "Mandrill of the House", Windsor was already traumatized by the idea of Mr. Mandrill dating his mother. However, Mr. Mandrill felt the need to kick him while he was down, while teaching health class and gave him a lesson about "Monkey Love".

Parental Bonus, and a fake swear.

  • In "Synch or Swim", Jake butt-bombed into the water, and Coach Gills, dreading the impending big splash he was about to cause, looked up at him in great pain and said "Oh, Carp."

Might be close enough to be something, but "crap" is a baby curse word and he didn't even say that.

  • In "Lyon's Anatomy", Nurse Gazelle, an at least 20 year old adult had a crush on the 11-12 year old Adam Lyon.
    • Another beautiful bit of dialogue involved Ingrid calling Nurse Gazelle a "homewrecker", when she realized she was trying to "move in on her man".

That's... something weird, I admit, but not GCPTR, just maybe DIH.

  • In "Human Behavior", the chalkboard in Mr. Beaver's classroom had "Dam Building Midterm" written on it.

Parental Bonus / DIH if "Dam" is meant to be seen as an adjective as well, and not just literally a midterm on dam building.

  • In "Animal School Musical" Adam gets hit in his "lower stomach area" when it's pretty clear where the ball actually hit him.
    • Later on, when Ingrid starts forcefully kissing Henry Armadillo dressed as Adam Henry says he's feeling funny in his lower stomach area.
    • Oh, and let's not forget how in the finale song, we got a beautiful shot of Jake Spidermonkey shooting a rainbow out of his ass.

Parental Bonus / DIH, because that does genuinely sound like a boner joke.

  • The episode "Where in the World Are Adam's Parents?" does a plot, where people assumed Adam had killed his parents, already making for an extremely dark concept for a kid show. There's even a scene, where Adam's house is covered in ketchup, and a comedic footstool, with realistic human feet is seen, lying down behind his couch, giving off the impression that Adam really did just murder his parents right there on the spot.
    • Not to mention the episode ended with a one-off gag, involving Adam burping up a human bone. So, revealed Adam was a murderous cannibal and simply passed it off as an end of episode joke.

Black Comedy Burst, but not sure if that'd be banned if it really is ketchup.

  • In "Knights of the Multiplication Table", the final boss in the knights' adventure, was "Jake Dragonmonkey", a Medieval villain based off of butt-obsessed character, Jake Spidermonkey. To help commit to the "butt" theme, Dragonmonkey's cave was designed to look like a giant butt. Guess where the entrance was located.
    • Scenes from this episode included Jake Dragonmonkey coming out of the cave, and later Sir Chauncy running in and back out again.

Joke of the Butt.

  • As for another religious reference, in "A Thanksgiving Carol", during the Thanksgiving play, teachers were seen praying at the table.

Not sure if CN bans religion entirely.

  • In "A Whole Zoo World", Jake shows a crudely drawn nude picture of Principal Pixiefrog, laying down in a leaf, with his butt sticking out. This may have been a somewhat innocent joke at the time, but nowadays, it's eerily reminiscent of a recurring trend in cartoon fanart.
    • Also, anyone else see the innuendo, in this specific scene. Adam Lyon, a 12 year old boy, was standing out by the road, all by himself, with neither parents or any adults in sight. A sketchy looking clown car drives up and out comes a big, burly, unshaven guy in a clown outfit, telling him to get in.
    • Lupe uses the term "Shizzle", using it as a slang term for "Sure". This was accidental, but "Shizzle" is currently accepted by Dictionary.com, as an informal term with two definitions. One as slang for "Sure", and the second as a euphemism for "Shit". Can't blame the dialogue writers for not noticing this, though. Not only is "inappropriate slang", completely subjective, but every adult has trouble keeping up with the fancy new words, being tossed around by da yooths.

This page is written so casually lol. It also doesn't seem to believe cartoon porn existed before the internet which is pretty naive. Anyway, first sounds like just Naked People Are Funny, the clown guy sounds like a generic stranger danger joke with nothing inherently sexual (kids at this age are taught to be wary of strangers even without the "why" included), and... not sure about "shizzle," it might count as something since it is genuinely a play on "shit" but it's not actually "shit."

  • In the short "I Got Rhythm", students have to pair up with partners for dancing. Jake wants to be paired up with Adam, but Adam says that they can't dance together, "Because they're both boys." Jake shames him for his intolerant ways.
    Adam: We can't be partners, Jake. We're both boys.
    Jake: Well, good luck finding a partner with that attitude.

Homoerotic Subtext, not enough to push it into bannable territory by that standard.

  • In the short, "Clam-Mercial", Windsor uses a pocket clam as a thighmaster. The camera shows a close up of Windsor squeezing a clam open and shut between his legs, making for a rather yonic image.

Probably an Accidental Innuendo.

Woof, okay, so most of this would be at best Parental Bonus if not just Accidental Innuendo or "vague reference to religion."

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#2107: Jan 30th 2024 at 1:16:42 PM

Troper Winning Pony added an example to the Housepets! webcomic's A-L page which I don't think qualifies.

  • Getting Crap Past the Radar: A few examples, although the 'rader' is self-imposed. When Keene finds Breel has filled the house with muffins, he explains he got the idea from Max, who 'bakes' when he's alone.

Besides the misspelling of "radar" which they left uncorrected from the commented out example originally there, this doesn't seem to fit at least one of the required criteria for the trope, likely two, specifically:

-The Radar: It must be in a medium and format where Media Watchdogs exist and actively censor content. Self-censorship does not count. Post-censorship, such as by advertisers on a webcomic, also does not count.

-The Crap: It must be something that directly violates the criteria for the rating assigned. Innuendo and subtext do not count.

As far as I can tell, there is no formally imposed censor from without for webcomics such as this, nor is there an assigned rating for the webcomic to try and violate.

Cut this?

Thanks!

Edited by BoltDMC on Jan 30th 2024 at 4:17:31 AM

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#2109: Jan 30th 2024 at 1:34:40 PM

[up] Thanks! Will cut, citing this thread.

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#2110: Feb 26th 2024 at 5:04:24 PM

I made an ATT thread about this, but was directed here.

The various subpages for Getting Crap Past the Radar are still here - and I've only linked four of them, there are many more. I remember there was a convoluted process regarding these subpages being cut if - and ONLY if - the trope's misuse continued past a certain date, but that date came and went with nobody checking if the trope was still being misused by then. Should we do anything with these subpages?

(EDIT 1: I didn't mention this in the ATT thread, but the decision to cut the pages if - and only if - the trope's misuse continued past a certain date was made in a wick check-less TRS thread)

(EDIT 2: Here's a list of all pages listed under the Radar/ namespace)

Edited by JHD0919 on Feb 26th 2024 at 8:11:51 AM

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#2111: Feb 26th 2024 at 5:39:28 PM

That TRS thread was a mess and a lot of the solutions were vague and arbitrary, so cleanup stalled.

Ideally we should do what we've been doing to all these pages: go through them, move entries to items like Demographically Inappropriate Humor / Parental Bonus / Accidental Innuendo / etc and then cut the page when done. The reason for the stall is that a lot of people are concerned with looking up detailed ratings to try and keep valid examples, but a lot of the misuse is so obvious we could just start by cutting the worst of it and then come back to check the less obvious examples under more scrutiny.

(In hindsight I also feel like DIH and Parental Bonus are too redundant but IDK what to do about it now.)

Edited by mightymewtron on Feb 26th 2024 at 8:40:44 AM

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#2112: Feb 26th 2024 at 6:34:14 PM

I feel like Radar.Theatre can be cut, since there usually isn't a radar to get crap past regarding theatrical works — in most countries, theatrical shows don't have a designated rating system. In addition, a lot of the examples on that page are for shows which are aimed at older audiences to begin with. I was considering bringing it up here because of those factors.

The example for The Wiz, mentioning that the TV broadcast was rated TV-G despite some mild profanity, could be a valid example — but if I recall correctly, the G rating does allow for some mild, infrequent uses of profanity, so I'm unsure about that one.

[up] I think the difference between Demographically Inappropriate Humor and Parental Bonus is that the latter is mostly focused on references that aren't "inappropriate", but are still references that the target audience probably wouldn't get (e.g. a Shout-Out to a work that's aimed at adults). I also feel like DIH focuses more on the subjectiveness as to whether or not these jokes are actually suitable for the target audience. Though, I do agree there's a lot of overlap, given that they're both about jokes aimed at the adults watching the show — maybe a more meaningful distinction could be reached.

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Nen_desharu Nintendo Fanatic Extraordinaire from Greater Smash Bros. Universe or Toronto Since: Aug, 2020 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#2113: Feb 26th 2024 at 9:18:25 PM

I have an idea that may be considered a little radical and may involve adding Parental Bonus to TRS.

There should be a trope called "Parental Reference." It would include Parental Bonus (that focuses on references) and Demographic-Dissonant Crossover. DDC would merge with Parental Bonus to Parental Reference. I feel that there is not much of a distinction between a crossover with mature media and a simple Shout-Out to mature media. Thus, Parental Bonus would be split into Parental Reference (for shout-outs and crossovers involving mature media), Demographically Inappropriate Humour (for humour that does not directly reference mature media), and Parent Service (for Fanservice in children's media). DIH can stay as is. Parent Service would also stay as is. Parental Bonus becomes a disambig page or an index page linked to DIH, Parental Reference, and Parent Service.

Edited by Nen_desharu on Feb 26th 2024 at 12:33:26 PM

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fullmusicbard dave bowman but worse from Basement of the Alamo Since: Aug, 2022 Relationship Status: Robosexual
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#2114: Feb 27th 2024 at 3:43:05 PM

I think DDC is sort of alright on its own, but I like the idea of Parental Reference as a trope! it would help a LOT with those tropes.

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#2115: Feb 27th 2024 at 5:51:46 PM

I don't see the worth in moving Parental Bonus or merging it together with DDC. There's also very much a difference between Crossover and Shout-Out (basically the amount of focus given to each), and Parental Bonus is about more than just referencing mature media (the page image, for example, references a psychological concept). Parental Reference sounds like an unnecessary split more than a supertrope.

Edited by mightymewtron on Feb 27th 2024 at 8:52:28 AM

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SharkToast Since: Mar, 2013
#2116: Feb 27th 2024 at 6:46:12 PM

DDC also contains a lot of fanworks/parodies, which aren't really trying to sneak in references for the parental demographic. I don't think you can say Robot Chicken's dark parodies count as Parental Bonuses because that's the demographic they're trying to reach.

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