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GastonRabbit
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
from Robinson, Illinois, USA
(General of TV Troops)
Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
#9402: Feb 19th 2021 at 3:40:37 AM
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It depends on whether they're causing any problems of their own. Being a Sister Trope to a NRLEP trope isn't enough to make a trope NLREP itself.
Edit: Depraved Dentist actually is NRLEP (under Gossip and Stereotypes), and Mad Artist has no Real Life section at all, so nothing needs to be done with those two.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Feb 19th 2021 at 5:44:22 AM
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.
#9403: Feb 19th 2021 at 9:19:54 AM
I was asking because I came across Mad Artist in a Creator page, though I suppose that entry should be deleted for violating the Creator Page Guideline anyway, so it probably doesn't matter.
Maintenance?
#9404: Feb 20th 2021 at 6:59:45 AM
Ridiculously Potent Explosive was added without discussion in 2019, but wasn't indexed until now.
I'm back!
Maintenance?
#9405: Feb 20th 2021 at 12:15:35 PM
I'm back!
Skewed Priorities: Complaining and ROCEJ violations, too common in real life.
From Skewed Priorities
- Politicians often get accused of this by whichever constituency feels left out of their agenda. Often said constituency will ignore the fact that,a small group of people in power are going to find it very difficult to sort out an entire country's worth of problems, hence the need to choose their battles wisely. This is especially so during a state of emergency or other urgent situation, which certain issues such as: "national defence or disaster response"must always take precedence over other issues; such as trade and investment or cultural affairs.
- Many, many Darwin Awards winners are subject to this trope.
- This Greek radio moderator who can't be bothered to interrupt his news reading while his studio is on fire.
- This Cracked list links to a number of real-life cases of Skewed Priorities. Of particularly terrifying note is the mother who locked her infant son in her car on a hot day. When rescue workers arrived, she refused to let them break a window to get him out, even as he started to show signs of heatstroke. Thankfully they just waited until she left to get her spare key and broke him out anyway.
- A security consultant was brought in because a former worker had come to the workplace with a gun demanding reimbursement for some expenses he had incurred while working. The consultant asked why they had not paid him. Answer: Because he had not filled out the form correctly.
- Pierre Beaumarchais was a French playwright who also worked as an arms dealercovertly supplying the Americans during the American Revolutionary War. Lafayette In The Somewhat United States by Sarah Vowell relates an incident where Beaumarchais was supposed to be undercover, supervising his cargo being loaded into ships, when he learned of a particularly poor stage production of his play The Barber Of Seville taking place nearby: He promptly blew his cover to barge into the theater and take over the rehearsals, "running back and forth from the docks to the theater, barking at actors and stevedores alike".
- When recording the 1098 Siege of Ma'arra, Albert of Aix notes with horror that "the Christians did not shrink from eating not only killed Turks or Saracens but even dogs..."
- The Toby Keith song "Beer for My Horses" has gotten flak for being politically incorrect due to the line about giving beer to horses — never mind that the overall song suggests that all criminals should get the death penalty, and glamorizes lynching them.
- This man◊, who decided during a tornado that mowing his lawn was a much higher priority. And in case anyone suspects this is fake, snopes has confirmed it as true. While it looked like the tornado was well away from the neighborhood and thus didn't pose as much of a danger as a tornado coming for them, tornadoes can move extremely quickly across the ground and are known for changing direction unexpectedly.
- One thing that is often brought up in fire safety is that you should never waste valuable seconds collecting various items (i.e. things you don't want to lose in the fire), just in case there really are people out there who would actually do that, and end up dying because they took too long to escape.
- Similarly, pre-flight safety and emergency demonstrations on passenger jet flights emphasize that in the event of an emergency landing, you should simply get yourself off the aircraft as soon as possible and leave your baggage and other difficult-to-retrieve or -transport items behind. Yeah, losing your $1,000 laptop or that gift you bought for a friend will suck... but losing your life and being the cause of dozens of others' deaths (because you were obstructing important escape paths) obviously sucks more, plus imagine if everyone (often anywhere from 50 to 300 passengers) had the same "I need to get my stuff!" mentality as you.
- Tragically, the Soviet government had a big case of this during the Chernobyl reactor meltdown, which is a big part of why it was so disastrous. The Soviet government wasted months of precious time that could have been used to seal the reactor earlier and prevent more radiation fatalities on a solution that was doomed to fail anyway because they didn't want to be humiliated in front of the West. The HBO series Chernobyl goes into this in detail.
- Many TV viewers seem to believe that sports events, scripted TV and reality shows take precedence over coverage regarding emergencies such as natural disasters. Florence, SC ABC affiliate WPDE and Dayton, OH ABC affiliate WKEF are the most recent targets of viewer bile for interrupting their shows because of tornadoes approaching their areas. The on-air talent were quick to put viewers in their place.
- During early 2020, the world suffered a massive outbreak of the COVID-19 virus (commonly known as the Coronavirus). Due to how quickly the virus was spreading, many cities went on total shutdown to slow the spread. Nonessential businesses were forced to temporarily shut down and citizens weren't allowed to leave their homes unless in specific circumstancesnote . Video game retail giant Gamestop considered themselves to be an essential business, even though selling video games is considered to be a luxury and not a necessity. People in Gamestop's corporate division also told their employees that not only they had to keep operating their business as normal, but they were also on their own in regards to obtaining sanitizers and other cleaning supplies. On top of this, employees were also told ignore government orders to shut down and if the police stopped by, they were to refer them to corporate. The stunt got Gamestop heavily blasted on social media and the governor of Pennsylvania forcibly revoked Gamestop's business license. The reason behind Gamestop's defiance? Doom Eternal and Animal Crossing: New Horizons were close to being launched and they didn't want to lose out on the sales. Likewise, it was very common to see people ignoring social distancing rules and not wear a mask because they felt that their own comfort and enjoyment was more important, even if they risked catching or spreading the virus.
- Schools are often prone to this, sadly. Despite awareness of bullying and the serious impact it has on children, they still rather punish students for more petty behavior such as wearing hoodies in class, chewing gum, or citing Wikipedia (and the really unlucky ones are subject to more severe punishments like suspension or even expulsions). Matter of fact, bullying seems to be the absolute least concern to education boards.
- If a store is suffering damages/interruption of business from events like natural disasters or power outages, the store will usually close and turn people away since clean up and safety is the top priority over sales. Despite the obvious warning signs, some customers will insist on continuing to shop or trying to do an exchange or refund.
#9406: Feb 20th 2021 at 12:44:02 PM
Cut the general/complaining examples and it's fine.
themayorofsimpleton
Now a lurker. Thanks for everything. | he/him
from Elsewhere
(Experienced, Not Yet Jaded)
Relationship Status: Abstaining
Now a lurker. Thanks for everything. | he/him
#9407: Feb 23rd 2021 at 12:12:38 PM
I know we technically voted on this recently, but the ROCEJ cleanup thread has suggested doing another vote on Role-Ending Misdemeanor, but this time only the Politics section, as that has been determined to be ROCEJ-violating and ridiculously off-mission, as well as misuse since the trope is specifically for creators. Could we do another vote for that section only, or is it completely off the table?
ccorb
from A very hot place
Since: May, 2020
Relationship Status: It's not my fault I'm not popular!
#9408: Feb 23rd 2021 at 2:03:27 PM
Agree on doing it subpage by subpage.
Very Spooky
#9409: Feb 23rd 2021 at 3:14:25 PM
I agreed on redoing RoleEndingMisdemeanor.Politics and the other potentially problematic Role-Ending Misdemeanor subpages; we completely messed up last time by grouping them all together as one.
Edited by jandn2014 on Feb 23rd 2021 at 6:14:45 AM
back lol
she/her
#9410: Feb 23rd 2021 at 9:21:53 PM
I'm going to add Badass Mustache.
Zyffyr
from Portland, Oregon
Since: Apr, 2010
Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
GastonRabbit
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
from Robinson, Illinois, USA
(General of TV Troops)
Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
#9412: Feb 24th 2021 at 7:50:32 PM
I'm fine with looking at the Role-Ending Misdemeanor sections individually. I'm pretty sure it was downvoted because there were subpages listed that people thought shouldn't be cut, regardless of how everyone thought of any of the other pages.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Feb 24th 2021 at 9:51:38 AM
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.
SkyCat32
The Draftsman of Doom
from NYPD
(Five Year Plan)
Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
The Draftsman of Doom
#9413: Feb 24th 2021 at 8:13:32 PM
I cannot comprehend why anybody would want to list examples of clerics acting perverted in real life on this website, but if we are supposed to keep RL examples, so be it.
Please do not mistake this for a rude comment. I genuinely want to know why people want to keep those examples.
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Ok.
Edited by SkyCat32 on Feb 24th 2021 at 11:17:15 AM
Feels good, don't it?
mightymewtron
Angry babby
from New New York
Since: Oct, 2012
Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Angry babby
#9414: Feb 24th 2021 at 8:16:18 PM
The examples aren't too lecherous, and there is some real life basis for the trope so I guess it's not problematic. It's less "we want the examples" and more "having them isn't making the page worse."
Edited by mightymewtron on Feb 24th 2021 at 11:16:40 AM
I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
10,000 grams of pure caffeine
#9415: Feb 24th 2021 at 8:55:32 PM
Plague Master
- The Siege on Caffa is the most literal historical case of this trope. In 1345, following a failed siege in 1343, the Golden Horde laid siege on Caffa, a harbor city in Crimea that today is known as Feodosia. The reason Caffa was so resilient was because it was one of the greatest merchant centers of its time and supplies were easily brought in from the seaside. The Golden Horde didn't have the means to attack by sea, and to make matters worse the army contracted the Black Death that had been roaming around Asia for some time by then. As one soldier after another fell, the khan, Jani Beg, in a drastic take on "when life gives you lemons", had the catapults brought out and the disease-riddled corpses flung over the city walls. Which would be bad enough, but obviously the people in Caffa wanted to live, so they fled... by boat... along the major trade routes... to the nearest major harbor cities. And this is how the Black Death reached Europe, killing millions in the years to come.note
- Part of the reason that uncontacted peoplesnote like the people of North Sentinel Island are left alone is that they haven't built up the immunity to illnesses that the rest of the world has. One person carrying a flu pathogen that they hadn't even noticed could wipe out a tribe of 100 people that had happily been living on its own for thousands of years. A lot of Native Americans died in the first few years of contact due to disease being transferred from European settlers to them, and then through their trade network. At first this happened by accident, but when the Europeans caught on, their diseases became a backup weapon to other forms of violence. The most infamous are the smallpox-riddled blankets and handkerchiefs gifted by the settlers to the natives, although only one case, that of the Siege of Fort Pitt, is certain to have occured.
- Then there's the various tales of people with AIDS knowingly infecting unwitting victims for one reason or another. The most famous would probably be flight attendant Gaetan "Patient Zero" Dugas, though later evidence suggests that in his case at least, this is an exaggeration.
- There's been at least one case of a prisoner murdering a guard by jabbing him with a syringe filled with his own HIV-infected blood.
- Tragically (or horrifically), raping victims to deliberately spread AIDS is a tactic used commonly by AIDS-infected militia members in Sub-Saharan Africa.
- Any Bio-terrorist qualifies.
- Some people throughout history have believed that sex with a virgin can cure disease (and no, it doesn't have to be consensual to achieve the supposed effect). Needless to say, this does not work, and often ends with the (now former) virgin getting sick too. Some recent African examples of the myth specifically involve HIV/AIDS (while a Zimbabwean variant calls for an albino instead of a virgin, predictably leading to rape and subsequent HIV infection of Zimbabweans with albinism).
- It was once believed that Komodo dragons hunted by biting prey to infect them with deadly bacteria living in their mouths, then waiting for the prey to be incapacitated before eating them, but this is no longer believed to be the case.
At the very least, I think some of the examples better fit Typhoid Mary.
Also is it now false that komodo dragons use their mouth bacteria to incapacitate their prey?
Cassie | he/they | But will it stop the pain forever? / I just can't be sure
PlasmaPower
Since: Jan, 2015
#9416: Feb 25th 2021 at 2:07:43 AM
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I'm not so sure about How the Mighty Have Fallen's examples. They just seem really complainy and drone on and on. A particularly troubling one is one about Alex Jones.
Real Life
- Subverted in this joke: Three refugees from talk about the old times. First one: "Here I live in a one-room apartment, but in the old country, I had a house with twelve rooms." Second one: "Here I am an ordinary secretary, but in the old country, I was a CEO." Third one (with a Mister Muffykins on his lap): "I'll admit, I'm a poor devil now as well as then. But in the old country, my dog was a St. Bernard."
- People during the Middle Ages and the Renaissance saw Ancient Rome as this.
- The Hudson's Bay Company, once, a real-life MegaCorp. For 200 years, they owned and ruled over more than a third of what is now Canada, even having its own currency, before the British forced them to sell the land to the Canadian government. Now they're just a chain of mid-range department stores, destined for the same fate as many other major retailers.
- Joe Paterno. He retires in disgrace after the horrifying Penn State sex scandal blew up. And after his death, a statue outside the campus erected to honor his achievements gets taken down after numerous pieces of evidence and implications pile up that he was involved in the whole cover-up.
- In the late 1990s, Leeds United emerged as the most likely team to challenge Manchester United and Arsenal in the English Premier League, launching a sustained title challenge and reaching the semifinals of European competitions. However, in doing so, they spent too much money, and after losing their champions league place to Newcastle United, they were forced to offload players to recoup debts. They were relegated in 2004, and again in 2007 after losing the promotion playoff the previous year. They returned to the first division in 2010, but are still yet to return to the top flight.
- The Enron Corporation. They were the fastest growing and most praised technology corporation of the late 90s and into the 2000s. Only for them to surprisingly declare bankruptcy, which later exposed them as a fraudulent operation from the very beginning.
- One of the greatest examples of this in modern American politics is the case of New Jersey Governor Chris Christie. Highly popular and effective after being elected in 2009, he cruised to reelection in 2013 and was considered an early favorite for the Republican presidential nomination in 2016. However, after being implicated in the Bridgegate scandal, his image was heavily tainted, to the point he ended up one of the first candidates to drop out of the running, and (at least according to Christie himself) this is also why Donald Trump didn't select him as a running mate or cabinet selection, despite throwing support behind Trump almost immediately after suspending his own campaign.note After this, he spent the remainder of his term of office only growing more and more unpopular with his constituents (such as when he publicly attended a beach closed to the public during a government shutdown). Ultimately, he left office one of the least popular Governors in state history, and merely being associated with him caused his Lieutenant Governor Kim Guadagno to lose the subsequent election in a landslide.
- Alex Jones, a radio personality from Texas who for years made a living shouting (literally) out conspiracy theories. When the internet took off, he created a website called Info Wars which also focused on conspiracy theories and made several documentaries and he allowed most of them to be watched for free on the internet. He was one of if not THE leading force in pushing the 9/11 conspiracy theory among many others. By the 2010s, Alex Jones became huge, becoming a multimillionaire through his work and sponsors he gained over the years. Then it started to fall apart when Alex Jones accused genuine victims of crimes as being fake crisis actors, verbally attacking anyone who disagreed with him in a manner that incited violence, which sometimes his supporters would create, and that is just the mild stuff. Then it was revealed that he was going through a divorce with his wife and a custody battle for the children. During the hearings, Alex Jones' lawyer admitted that Jones is an actor playing a role and really doesn't believe anything he is saying. His wife claimed he was unstable and dangerous. Not long afterwards, Jones started getting sued by many of the victims of tragic shootings, who he claimed were crisis actors and frauds. On top of that, Alex Jones began supporting Alt-Right personalities who repeated many of his conspiracy theories for their personal agendas. This eventually resulted in Jones getting banned from many of the top social media sites, including Facebook, Youtube, and more. There was a small Hope Spot for Jones when he was able to hold on to Twitter because according to them, he didn't violate any rules. This changed in September 2018, when in a public confrontation with politician Marco Rubio, Twitter banned Jones for breaking the behavior policy. Jones still has his website and an audience, even getting interviews on various social media websites he's been banned off, but comparing his current state to his peak shows a definite fall indeed.
- A lesser version of this in American politics would have to be former President Bill Clinton. Throughout the 90's, 2000's, and the early 2010's, Bill Clinton was an absolute magnetic draw for the Democratic Party, despite his impeachment over Monica Lewinsky, managing to play major roles in helping the Democrats take back Congress in 2006, and playing a major role in Barack Obama's reelection in 2012. Despite increasing concerns over the effects of some of his policies, (though Clinton had cleared the way on some of them by admitting he made the wrong call, such as his decision not to intervene in Rwanda), he was still widely respected and maintained a considerable approval rating. However, in the mid 2010's, concerns about the effects of his 1994 crime bill, and whether or not his gun control law went far enough (at the time, Clinton's bill was incredibly progressive, and it played a partial in his party losing Congress, not to mention he risked losing in 1996 over it) led to his legacy beginning to be considerably questioned, even if there was no questions about the man himself. The 2016 election and the rise of Donald Trump, along with the candidacy of Bernie Sanders, led to many people beginning to look back at his free trade policies with more questions, as to whether they really were as good as he promoted them. The fact that Trump used allegations that Clinton committed sexual harassment and assault before and during his presidency as a shield against his own actions led to many Democrats, especially the party's liberal wing starting to wonder privately if they had done the wrong thing in standing by Clinton during Monica Lewinsky. The Me Too! movement, which revealed the widespread abuse of women in American society, was the final straw, as many Democrats, both from the liberal wing of the party and moderate lawmakers, along with a large amount of the press, even among those who had backed him during impeachment, openly admitted that Clinton either should have resigned over the affair with Lewinsky conceding it was an abuse of power, or that the Senate acquittal vote should not have been as large as it was. The effects of his policies have been even more open; all of the Democratic presidential nominees pledged at least a partial repeal of the 1994 crime bill and a reevaluation of free trade. This even extended to election campainging; Clinton was completly sidelined during the 2018 midterms, as an overwhelming amount of Democrats admitted that the allegations of sexual assault and harrasment leveled against Clinton made him too toxic to be seen anywhere near the party, especially after they kicked Al Franken out of the Senate over sexual harassment allegations, and the 2020 Democratic primary had not a single candidate even try to seek Clinton's endorsement.
- As a video game company, Konami could count as this. When it started, it was one of the best and more well-known video game companies, creating classic series like Castlevania and Contra amongst others, having extremely strong arcade presence, and eventually became well known for the Metal Gear franchise. Come The New '10s, however, there was a change in upper management, in which they decided to focus on either pachinko or mobile gaming, avoiding AAA games in the process, something that their flagship series Metal Gear is best known for. It culminated in them abusing their employees to increase their chances of venture towards pachinko, with particular treatment going towards the Metal Gear creator Hideo Kojima, whom they abused until he resigned and then barred him from getting awards for his last game, all of which did not endear the fandom towards Konami. To rub salt in the wound, shortly after all these happened and they looked as if they could move forward to pachinko, Japan itself, not realizing what was going on, passed a law that practically curbed profits from pachinko, meaning that they had to actually reduce the profits from their venture. And thus, Konami had to return to video game-making, after they had practically made themselves be known as an unforgivable devil of video game companies in a lot of fans' eyes and lost a lot of their manpower, meaning that they could no longer make quality or well-received games again, even if they carry on their franchises' big names (their only successful franchise that didn't attract bile was a soccer simulation, Pro Evolution Soccer/Winning Eleven series); the only thing they could receive an okay reception from fans was whenever they do a Compilation Re Release of their classic titles (but even they had enough sense not to touch Metal Gear again for this). Looking at the past Konami and comparing it to the present day Konami may end up generating feelings of this trope. Just about the thing that stayed in the hearts of people was their cheat code, and even that gets rarely used these days.
- Earlier, Atari was by far the absolute king of video games. Having made its name (and really built the entire industry) with the release of Pong, its Atari 2600 console dominated the industry and it put out far more games than anyone else. But Atari's refusal to change its business plan (lose money on consoles and make it back selling games) as the industry changed around it with the introduction of new consoles and personal computers cost it much business. Its refusal to allow the game designers to be credited for their work caused the best programmers to leave and found Activision. Finally, poor decision making and rushed schedules for the home port of Pac-Man and the adaptation of a certain blockbuster film caused them to release (and overproduce in hopes of selling consoles) what are considered two of the worst video games in history and usher in The Great Video Game Crash of 1983. Millions of cartridges were returned and ended up crushed and buried in a New Mexico landfill. Atari's frontline failure cause a 97% reduction in sales across the video game industry. Its computer division failed soon after and Atari never had another great success in consoles, and despite releasing the handheld Lynx and fifth-generation system Jaguar, neither was a success due to hardware disappointments. After going through a breakup and selloff of the company, it was restructured into a game design company. While it has had several successes, it has never gotten anywhere near the top of the pyramid it once built.
- Pablo Escobar was one of the most powerful drug lords of all time, with his vast fortune and army of hitmen allowing him to essentially make himself de facto ruler of Colombia, by bribing or killing anyone in the government who opposed him, all while living a life of luxury. Eventually, however, the tide turned against him as anti-corruption forces did manage to come to power and start cracking down on his cartel. With the aid of both the American government and Vigilante Militias formed from the loved ones of people killed in Escobar's reign of terror, the Colombians chipped away at his power base, killing or imprisoning all his allies and sending him on the run, eventually reducing him to hiding in a small apartment with only a single bodyguard. At this point, he was tracked down and shot dead while trying to flee across a roof, with his corpse then being used as a showpiece for a victory picture by the soldiers who'd killed him.
GastonRabbit
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
from Robinson, Illinois, USA
(General of TV Troops)
Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
#9417: Feb 25th 2021 at 6:04:16 AM
Which ones? Those mostly involve intentionally spreading diseases for the sake of harming people, which is what Plaguemaster refers to. The second might need to be split with some of it going on Typhoid Mary, since only one part refers to people intentionally spreading disease (they started out fitting Typhoid Mary until they realized they were spreading disease and decided to weaponize it).
Edited by GastonRabbit on Feb 25th 2021 at 8:05:52 AM
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.
PlasmaPower
Since: Jan, 2015
#9418: Feb 25th 2021 at 8:59:20 AM
Should I put How the Mighty Have Fallen in the crowner for attracting complaining and being too common? It kind of feels like Fallen Creator but without the restrictions.
Edited by PlasmaPower on Feb 25th 2021 at 1:00:08 PM
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SkyCat32
The Draftsman of Doom
from NYPD
(Five Year Plan)
Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
The Draftsman of Doom
#9419: Feb 25th 2021 at 9:03:35 AM
Lets see some examples.
PlasmaPower
Since: Jan, 2015
#9420: Feb 25th 2021 at 9:07:34 AM
I posted them right here.
SkyCat32
The Draftsman of Doom
from NYPD
(Five Year Plan)
Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
The Draftsman of Doom
#9421: Feb 25th 2021 at 9:12:17 AM
I can see why that would be somewhat problematic.
Feels good, don't it?
she/her
#9422: Feb 25th 2021 at 10:37:56 AM
Yeah, you can go ahead and add How the Mighty Have Fallen.
PlasmaPower
Since: Jan, 2015
#9423: Feb 25th 2021 at 10:48:12 AM
I think it was going to end up being like this because of How the Mighty Have Fallen being a stock phrase. That, and in real life not really being any sort of scope as to how mighty they have to be to qualify or if they've even fallen.
Edited by PlasmaPower on Feb 25th 2021 at 2:53:01 PM
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Zyffyr
from Portland, Oregon
Since: Apr, 2010
Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
#9424: Feb 25th 2021 at 5:22:16 PM
Too Cool to Live was added with no commentary, no actual RL examples to justify a problem, and a questionable reason - while it might fight under Narrative or even Too Common, it has nothing whatsoever to do with morality.
SkyCat32
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#9425: Feb 25th 2021 at 5:31:53 PM
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Well uh, Plague Master has RL examples.
At the very least, some of the examples better fit Typhoid Mary.
Also is it now false that komodo dragons use their mouth bacteria to incapacitate it's prey?
Edited by SomeLibre on Feb 19th 2021 at 5:38:19 PM
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