Discussion WesternAnimation / MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic

Agreed, along with a direction to the newest show?

The only way that could happen is through fanfiction. Hasbro’s moving on to G5, why redo one part of the last gen?

I asked cleanup, redeemed characters are exempted from Karma Houdini as by definition they've owned/owning up to karma. If audiences digress this isn't a YMMV trope.

The double standards you mentioned are only as relevant to this wiki as we can find tropes for them.

Some questions are never answered, with regard to your concern about the "Alicorn Amulet", although I believe most of us simply accepted it as "gives one power equal to an alicorn", not "gives one the personality of an alicorn". We're told that prior to Flurry Heart, alicorns had to earn their power, and were not born with it, and as such it would seem the amulet doesn't imply anything negative about alicorns so much as it confirms the old adage that power corrupts, especially if it isn't earned. As to the main thrust of your query, whether or not it's worth catching up, only you can make the determination, but I have to say I rather enjoyed most of what you say you've missed. Start by watching "The Perfect Pear", a season 7 episode that you won't have seen yet, and know that there are episodes as good as that afterwards.

Took out the ones with their own buttons.

I've often wondered that myself. Have you watched it at all? I haven't, so I wonder if it's just one of those "you have to see it to understand" things.

Well, a show they like? 'Tis a honest answer; I don't think it's any different from all other works with audiences.

A good place to start; Watch the video 'Smile Smile Smile' (NOT 'Smile HD', for the love of Celestia) to get a good idea of Pinkie Pie's normal personality... then watch the episode 'Party of One'. (Both available on Youtube).

What do people see:

1. Six girls with six different personalities, rather than six girls with six identical personalities.
2. Six girls with six different ways of being a girl, rather than six boy-crazy, makeup-obsessed girls.
3. Lessons about life that indicate different people are interesting, rather than shunworthy.

• The tomboy can learn from the girly girl.
• The jock can learn from the brain.
• The party animal can learn from the quiet homebody.

It is not a perfect show by any means. There are lots of examples of peer pressure, and the occasional bit of Unfortunate Implications, but the silly, pastel-colored ponies really does tend to carry a lot of merit.

Don't ask the Bronies, though. They like the show for ... different reasons.

Please tell me you're confusing terminology Skylite. Bronies are the fans who like the show, and cloppers are, well...

Val — in the circles I travel in, I have seen many times that what you describe as cloppers still refer to themselves as Bronies.

This would be problematic even if they were just boy fans because even the wholesome and kind boy fans ask, "so what are GIRL pony fans called" as if Boy Fans are the default for a show AIMED at girls.

It's honestly better than most other shows (aimed at kids or not) I've seen these days.

You can ask here.

A wee bit early, I would say.

Sorry for the one-month reply, but I don't see why we can't add something like "A feature film based on the series, set for release in 2017, has been announced."

Tirek's episode was not the last episode. There's been a whole season since then.

You mean a whole season planned, right? It comes out in 2015.

I mean, unless you're a time traveller...

No, I just forget which season which finale occurred in is all. They tend to run together in my head if I'm not looking at the episode listing while I'm typing.

Apparently no one did.

Yeah, the show is more White And Grey, if that's even a thing. The heroes really have no grey morality.

I'd disagree. The show goes to some effort to give the Mane 6 and Spike negative traits. Not EVIL traits, but they are Innocently Insensitive and hurtful to each other without realizing it quite a lot.

If you're talking about the Recap Page, that's not uncommon.

Take Transformers: Prime. The only episodes without summaries are the ones that haven't come out yet. MLP is a popular franchise that is coming out while TV Tropes existed. I'm sure if it existed back when Star Trek and Doctor Who first came out, we'd have every episode of them being logged as well.

Moreover, the recapping of every episode was a later development.

I agree with Rosemary. There's Popular and then there's Overboard.

This show, while good, is not the pinnacle of animation it does not deserve this much adoration and special treatment.

As I've recently been told, there are no standard for notability. If a show doesn't have episode recaps, then someone who can be bothered should make them. This show has such people and so it has recaps. Otherwise I don't see what the point of this topic is except to note that the show has fans.

I agree that the show suffers from not being able to live up to its own hype, but that's ultimately an opinion. And last I checked, there's a still a "no such thing as notability" rule on this site.

Also, Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. is an ongoing series that may not even survive its first season and only has three episodes. People are writing recaps. Again, it's not a matter of a show deserving recaps, it's a matter of people be bothered to make them.

1) No such thing as notability. A show doesn't have to be unusually special to get recap pages, it just has to have a fan or group of fans sufficiently dedicated to write it. 2) I agree that it would be overboard if this were the only page with recaps, it is not. While it is one of the most detailed and complete, it is far from unique. See Recap for more examples of works with recap pages

Mystery Science Theater 3000 has it's own recap page. Not everything is recapped, but it does.

There are recaps for different shows, depending on the Tropers and how dedicated they are to maintaining it. Even some Literature has recap pages.

Twilight wasn't socially awkward. She was outright anti-social. And it didn't happen instantaneously. It took the timeframe of the first two episodes (which were the course of a few days).

Dash has developed quite a bit. Not just becoming concerned and caring for her friends, but also becoming less self-centered, and less image-conscious and understanding that you can still be a cool athlete and read, for example.

Fluttershy has learned to become more assertive without employing Iron Will's techniques. I'd say that's valid.

AJ is still stubborn, and her honesty is often of the brutal type. She still tends to blow off things she doesn't agree with or understand, so I'd call her the least developed pony.

Rarity is still self-centered, and is as vain as she is generous, so she is the most balanced pony, if not the most developed.

1) She doesn't have to be able to do it to know what needs done. 2) Ponyville in general seems to suck with organization/management things. As far as I can tell, Mayor Mare is the entirety of the government. 3) The impression I got was that Twilight, due to bouncing around trying to help, was the only one who knew all the processes that had to happen, and what circumstances needed to be met for those processes to happen. The rest of the town couldn't see the forest for the trees. 4) Just because organizing isn't physical doesn't mean it's not "real work". Twilight had a mindset and skillset that was badly needed here. 5) She's been hearing about the problems associated with each job as she looks for something to help with. That's what's going on in the bulk of the episode, she talks with each task group, finds out what they're doing, and attempts but does poorly at it. 6) Twilight's obsession with order is a very good reason that she'd be a good manager. She keeps track of what needs done and when it needs done by already in her own life. All she needs to add now is to keep track of who's in charge of a given task, which isn't that much.

And on an additional note, did the genius notice that in doing so they also cut off access to the Accidental and High Octane pages for fanworks? Seriously, what just happened and whose idea was it?

Probably just a victim of the recent cleanup. It is annoying that the fanwork section was removed as well however, since some of it is actually High Octane Nightmare Fuel.

Honestly, the fandom here went far overboard with the Nightmare Fuel section, doing crazy stunts like giving Lesson Zero its own page and trying to pass off Adult Fear as actual Nightmare Fuel. I appreciate the work the fandom here has done on the TV Tropes pages, but we should be striving to accurately document the show's tropes instead of trying to set new milestones like trying to make the show seems like the second coming of Edgar Allen Poe or trying to make entirely new tropes and saying the show inspired/is the Trope Namer (partially or otherwise).

I think the cleanup just went overboard right back. Someone please undo this so we can trim down the page by normal means.

Oh, and the High Octane page for fanworks is still there, there's just no link to it anywhere. The Accidental one is deleted, though.

Really? Could you link me to it?

Also, it seems High Octane Nightmare Fuel is going through a revamp in general, since the index is no longer available on either its page of Accidental Nightmare Fuel's page.

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/HighOctaneNightmareFuel/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicNonCanon Sorry for the long URL, I don't edit here often.

Accidental Nightmare Fuel seems to be having all its examples- even in YMMV- deleted, which if you ask me is no better than deleting the trope itself. High Octane has lost its index on the main page, but all the sub-pages and examples are still there.

TV Tropes just got 20% less cool.

Can't say much about the nightmare fuel page, but if you want to find the list of fan works, it is linked to from the bottom of the Analysis page at My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic.

Yeah, a lot of Nightmare Fuel pages seem to have been deleted lately... from the page for this, the non-canon pages, the Nightmare Fuel page for Kirby, the Nightmare Fuel page for Power Rangers... what's going on?

Too bad it got deleted. The Changelings would of made a nice addition.

Maybe it has something to do with that fact that Nightmare Fuel for some of these people is laughable. I mean seriously, you were petrified by the Cockatrice?

Just the Wisdom of Crowds and Wiki Magic.

The thing to consider is where in TV Tropes the information comes from. Although the actual articles are for cataloging and describing the observed tropes used in the show, there are other pages (like YMMV and WMG) that aren't supposed to be anything other than speculation and chatter.

The next time someone comes up with something you think is nonsense, just go to the main tropes pages:

So there's no content control. Someone can claim "amniomorphic" means "bowl-making" and you'd all just swallow it up.

And of course, that's one example out of dozens of "references" that don't exist.

Here's a thought: you have an account.

You also know what and where the errors are.

Instead of complaining, why not lend a hand, and fix them?

Editing isn't much harder than writing on the discussion board, and will actually take care of the incorrect information.

No one will thank you, but at least the garbage will be swept out.

Your call.

Considering the page is locked, they can't fix these issues

Tropers may request edits to locked pages in this thread.

The page was also not locked at that time — you're replying to a very old topic.

Yeah, this is unnecessary.

It's been removed.

Edit requests go here. I've posted this one (combined with the one below) for you.

Hmm all the vandalisms...it's no wonder it's locked

I don't think Pegasi actually have families. They seem to have the closest thing Equestria has to a military tradition; I always figured that Pegasi are raised communally and in a fairly Spartan fashion. After all, nobody seems to have even tried to come to Fluttershy's aid after she fell to the ground (and landed on a cloud of butterflies), or tried to convince her to come back to Cloudsdale afterward.

Put it under YMMV.

I think this forum thread is the place for locked page edit requests.

It does have a trope entry.

Well, Wikipedia says "She has been a story artist since Season 3 of The Powerpuff Girls and was head writer on Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends." That's a more accurate picture of her involvement and either. One of the explanations given most often for why MLP: Fi M has had so much crossover appeal is to attribute it to Lauren Faust's involvement in the Powerpuff Girls, which had crossover appeal as well, and I think that this has lead to a tendency to exaggerate that involvement, with "she helped out on these series" being blown up into "she was the main creative force behind them!"

This is apparently a bit of a problem for her, as her faq has a section devoted to it: "Q: Did you create the Powerpuff Girls and/or Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends? No. My husband, Craig Mc Cracken did." Anyway, I think the page should be edited to basically use wikipedias wording, rather than the current "she was the writer and director...", and perhaps mention the actual creator as well.

It is better organize. But arent the NSFW pics are censored in Ponibooru unless you click the pic?

And now Ponibooru has been shut down completely. I'm glad for this, but I know others won't be... Are the links being fixed or what?

There is. You click on the awesome page and they have a link to the music version.

Awesome Music doesn't have an icon on the top bar. You can access it from the sidebar, or from the dropdown menu at the top of the page.

Wait, looks like I accidentally embedded the image. Ah well, hope this helps you guys!

To make it just a link, enclose the URL in [[ ]]. Changing images on work pages is fine unless there's a special note, and quality swaps are free, so thank-you!

You're very welcome. I can't seem to edit the page (it's locked for me), so I just uploaded the image on here.

Also, in case you're curious this is the source of the image: [1]. And for the record, that feller isn't me.

Oh yeah, I forgot this thing was locked. Go here to request the swap, since only mods can edit it.

Have a Wonderful Winter Wrap-Up!

It's called Rule34 and that's not limited to the brony fandom.

I would suggest the sandbox, but even that is locked down!

How about this: let's link to it from the My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic Analysis page.

I'm making this suggestion based on how Dr. Who has both an Doctor Who Analysis page, and a Doctor Who Expanded Universe page that is listed from it which covers additional material about the show.

Not a bad idea. I'll look into squeezing it in there, for the time being.

replied to wrong thing

Okay, I added it to the bottom of the analysis page. If anyone disagrees, then just edit it or take it off. Fair enough, everyone?

Perhaps Equestria is flat.

But that doesn't explain how the sun and moon keep moving.

It's magic being performed on a children's animated program. They don't have to explain anything.

I'd like to assume they're using Archimedes' old idea. Somewhere at the edge of Equestria, there's one really, really big lever...

That odd piece of fanon are called "Shippers". Try not to acknowledge them and you'll be much better off.

how can you NOT acknowledge them? if they are anything like the shippers in other works of media, it is extremely difficult to ignore them, yet equally difficult to take them sereiously.

There's no evidence that Lyra and Bon-Bon aren't dating, either. They're background characters, with very little canon personality. We can give them whatever personality they want.

Doctor Whoves is another example of Fanon about a background character without much basis in actual evidence.

Not only Zecora, but also a number of other characters, as well. Not so sure about Tank, although we should presume we will see him again.

Funny thing about that. Pinkie's so called "4th wall demolishing"... That's a trait that's greatly exaggerated by fans of the show. She doesn't actively do it as much as other characters do. Which isn't too much.

If you really want to write something in her character, just try going off on weird tangents, keep a cheerful attitude and generally make her talk the reader's ears off. That's what really makes up Pinkie's character.

I think Jayson Thiessen has used the term as well I think. Does Word of God overrule actual meaning?

Alicorn means both a unicorn horn and a Unicorn Pegasus, via diferent mythological texts. I don't have them on hand, but I'll do the research if you'd like.

Found another one. Bye-bye computer.

Not true. The Ugly Barnacle, for instance, has no such references.

Not that you're likely to see this, considering your computer is most likely broken at this point.

Well, if you're lookin' to avoid My Little Pony, you've definitely come to the right place.

Dude, I have to put up with this site's TGWTG obsession every time I go to tv tropes, but I just try to ignore that stuff everytime I see it. Now why can't you do that with mlp fim?

Fixed my computer. What on earth is TGWTG?

That Guy With The Glasses, AKA the Nostalgia Critic and his posse.

Oh of course. Well, he is pretty funny.

Pinkamena: Accidental Nightmare Fuel

Twilight Psycho: High Octane Nightmare Fuel

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I say not because no matter how you cut it, it's still My Little Pony and still meant for children.

I really think that fans exaggerate how "scary" the show is. In the same way they exaggerate how sad/awesome/hilarious the show is.

A High Octane Nightmare Fuel page would be superfluous.

Back to the original point, Twilight Psycho is a much better representative of Nightmare Fuel than the actually-kinda-cute Pinkamena. Anybody else think so?

Just because you think she's cute, doesn't mean everyone else does.

But surely you agree that Twilight Psycho is scarier.

The Cheshire Cat grin would be the best page image.

Meh, I got around that with a fillies-laughing-in-hellish-background page image.

Well, I can't agree with her being scarier. Came off as "over-the-top cartoonish" to me. Whereas Pinkamena's twitches and expressions and, uhm, active delusions and disconnect from reality did a good job on the "she has really gone insane" thing, for me. Though I wouldn't call either one "scary", anyways...

From what I can tell its more of a Friendly Rivalry, if such a thing can exist between Fandoms.

not sure, the rivalry is because of an Award Snub.

I'm sure it won't be long before there are weird, illogical crossover toys...

Only thirteen have been announced.

Some people just don't like Cousin Olivers. They probably just find him annoying and think he doesn't add anything meaningful to the episode. Personally, I think he's just tolerable, if forgettable.

I don't see that as enough reason to consider a character The Scrappy, even if that's just the opinion of some. I feel the same way about the Crusaders. and what was annoying about Pip? I don't love him to the extreme like some do but I do really like him.

I think people were miffed that he debuted in Luna's episode, supposedly stealing her spotlight. Personally, I don't think we can consider him to be a Scrappy or a Cousin Oliver. We haven't seen enough of him to determine that yet. I really like him.

Schedules are always subject to change, but yes, that is as solid as it gets short of actually seeing the episode air.

apparently, it's confirmed now, just like the last two episodes that started out as rumors. should I just assume that all the unaired episodes are coming at this point?

MLP had examples of HONF listed on the Western Animation subpage. I moved them to the show-specific subpage. As for how much HONF you're actually going to find...yeah, not much outside of fanwork.

Calm down. What needs to be edited on the main page anyway?

The infodump on the show's popularity on the front page mostly. It has no place on there.

This needs to be added to page, as well:

• Light Feminine and Dark Feminine: Fluttershy (Light) is kind, caring, very much like a mother to the animals. Rarity (Dark) is vain and bratty, though not quite as much so as she seems.

Maybe shove it on the analysis page?

The analysis page should be for essays. Although an essay on this show's impact on the media and why it's so dang popular would be great.

I've been wondering what we should do with the analysis page...

Doctor Who uses their analysis page to dump a lot of stuff that was on the main page like explaining some of the concepts of the show (The TARDIS, sonic screwdriver, companions) as well as some of the pop-culture impact. Maybe we can use our analysis page in a similar manner?

I don't see anything wrong with that. As long as it's clear and concise.

Here's a plan.

1. We copy the article from the top of the main page (pretty much everything above the additional pages listing) onto the analysis page and start editing it in the Dr. Who style Cainos suggested, above.

2a. When the lock comes off the main page we can then reduce the original material to cover only what the analysis page doesn't.

2b. If the lock doesn't come off after the analysis page is brought up to speed, we edit the sandbox instead and let the mods simplify the main page.

Sounds simple, but is it too complex to carry through? It may be. Anyone else have an idea?

Vandal once again, but for now its only the main page.

Oh. Well, that's better than last time.

It's been a week. I think it's safe to unlock it now.

I agree with you, but don't the nsfw images tend to be labled as "qusitionable" so that you can't see the image unless you click on it? Don't get me wrong, I think your right, but woulden't that count as a warning?

We should definitely get a consensus first before deleting links. I've checked the Ponibooru rules page and it disallows any images that are illegal in California (including "sexual depictions of underage humans".) If there are any similar laws against sexual images of underage ponies (or dragons, or griffons, etc.) anywhere within our viewership, then I'd say it would make some sense to remove the links. (though the fact that there is a warning might make things a bit safer.)

If it's a link directly to the image, the questionable/explicit tag will be overridden and you will look at the exposed image. I agree that we should look through the Crowning Moment, Tear Jerker and Nightmare Fuel pages for such fanart.

Actually, in this case he does belong there.

The correct title of that cast page is actually the MAIN cast. The misspelling is a pun (for the mane of a horse, as you said).

He is generally considered to be a main cast member, and so he's there, even though the pun itself would not apply to him specifically.

So if you want to correct it, removing Spike isn't the answer, but removing the pun is. I don't advise actually trying it because someone will probably put it back without a second thought.

Animal Companions? What the hell? Are you implying that Spike is merely a pet? Seriously? Never mind that he's able to talk and is on the same anthropomorphic level as the rest of the main characters...

You know, why don't we put ALL THE CHARACTERS IN ANIMAL COMPANIONS, SINCE THEY'RE YOU KNOW, ANIMALS?

In case you cannot figure it out, animal companions are for characters that are pets that are unable to speak. Spike is more like a little brother/son to Twilight then anything else.

"Are you implying that Spike is merely a pet?" - PDL

Ee-yup.

Seriously, he is often treated as a pet, though, given his Butt-Monkey status. (Remember ep. 24 when he was pretty much working like a dog setting up get-togethers for the mane cast just so he could get some attention from them?)

As for Spike being like a little brother or son to Twilight... that also raises the question of whether or not he belongs in "mane family members" instead of mane cast or animal companions.

In any case, I think I'll bring this up in the MLP:FIM thread in Western Animation, and see what they have to say.

EDITED IN: Here's a link to my post about this in the thread.

Spike is a main character, he's always in group shots like on the main page, his voice actress is listed in the show's credits, and even has a Meet the Video.

If nothing else we have nowhere else to put him with how we've set the pages up. He's certainly not a Princess or a Cutie Mark Crusader. You could argue about putting him in Minor Characters, but again he's not minor as he shows up in most episodes, and someone would put him back on the main cast page anyways.

He's fine where he is.

• Fluttershy's knowledge of fashion & sewing.

Pinkie's Pinkie Sense would count, wouldn't it? It's only ever seen in Feeling Pinkie Keen

You and other G1 diehards are a small minority. I am obsessed with cute things and I can't sit through an episode of the original series. Get over it.

You and other G1 diehards are a small minority. I am obsessed with cute things and I can't sit through an episode of the original series. Get over it.

What is it with you and your judging? I AM NOT A G1 diehard, I JUST Recently watched the old shows with an OPEN MIND and got a honest opinion which is filled with arguments. That you can't handle it isn't saying ANYTHING about the quality. Are you just completly ignoring what I said?

Reread EXACTLY what the passage says. Nowhere does it mention previous incarnations of MLP - it says that girls' cartoons IN GENERAL have historically been terrible and insulting to their demographic's intelligence, and while there are some exceptions, I'd be willing to bet that most tropers who have been subjected to the genre over the years would be more than willing to agree. Additionally, the passage is framed as her opinion and guiding viewpoint behind the show's development, so whether you agree with her or not is irrelevant, it's still a crucial part of the show's DNA.

I think what coconutie is getting at is that having the line "Faust is on record as saying that most cartoons for girls are brainless, sickly-sweet pandering trash" comes off as overly-negative. It's been a while since I read the page's description, and I have to say, that line caught me off-guard as well. I think that the page would not suffer from deleting that line entirely.

I think what coconutie is getting at is that having the line "Faust is on record as saying that most cartoons for girls are brainless, sickly-sweet pandering trash" comes off as overly-negative. It's been a while since I read the page's description, and I have to say, that line caught me off-guard as well. I think that the page would not suffer from deleting that line entirely.

I don't know. Usually, coconutie 's edits just ooze hatred and he/she tends to behave and if TV Tropes were his/her own private webpage where what he/says, stays or else. The last thing I want to see on TV Tropes is an edit war caused by a single person who wants to control and manipulate EVERYTHING what is said here.

Ehm, the discussion wasn't about me, but about the content of the main page. We'll go further in this in PM, ok? I don't want the discussion page to be about a troper, but about the show.

Ms. Faust was almost certainly not talking about the MLP franchise. Furthermore, she has a point in regards to girl shows. Most of them DO patronize their viewers. The line should stay.

It's a quote about the show, from the creator, about the motivation behind it's creation. One or two nitwits thinking it sounds "negative" is not enough of a reason to delete it.

I know this is a old as hell discussion, but I do want to point out that even if lauren wasn't talking about the older series, she is right. Most girl's shows just tried to cash in on the obsessions of younger girls and put little to no effort in making the show good. And yes, she does hate the older shows. She said that all they ever did was have tea party's, giggle for no reason, and defeat the villains by crying, which seems to be pretty acurate from what I've seen of the older Shows.

I am not bashing anyone that grew up with them, but I tried to sit thorugh one of the episodes from the older shows and I could only get to 3 min's before I stoped watching it and went back to watching friendship is magic. Just pointing out the facts here.

Probably won't stick due to its non-indicative name. (Honestly, Pinkie Sense could mean anything if you haven't watched the show.)

To be fair, LOTS of things don't mean anything if you don't know what they're from.

"Chekhov's Gun," for instance. "Companion Cube," "Xanatos Gambit," "Eldritch anything," and "Kafka Komedy" come to mind as well.

Except Pinkie Pie isn't exactly the the starter of this particular trope. I can remember Monty from Rescue Rangers having a similar plot, except his tail indicated the weather and stuff. I'm sure it didn't start there, either.

Well the name didnt stick but here's the trope Pinkie Pie inspired

And now it's unlocked!

Let's hope the parasprites stay away for awhile.

Yes,it would be nice if someone could unlock this page now.The troll is probely gone now to due getting bored, and there are quite a bit tropes that could be added to this page just from the one episode that came out recently.Just imagine if the page was still locked even after all of the season 2 episodes came out. the page would be nothing but old news.And this series dosen't attract as much negitive attention as you would think,so I don't see why this page should be locked forever like uwe boll or sonichu Just because of a troll.

Yeah, it'd be nice to add tropes for season two. Ten seconds in and Discord's already breaking the trend of Anti Villains in the show... a lot of fans think he crossed the Moral Event Horizon with the Fluttershy sequence.

I agree. We have tropes and characters to add.

Well it would seem that this page is finally unlocked, and that people have already added examples involving what little of season 2 their is.About time.

Yeah, sorry about that. The page was locked because it was attracting more vandalism than an anime convention attracts tropers.

For future reference, you can propose changes to a locked page here.

it's cool dude, I already know why it was locked, I just starting to worry that it would never be unlocked because of how long it had been locked. No biggie.

Agreed. Positive edits are being blocked with the bad.

I agree as well.Plus by locking the page,thus preventing fans from editing it, all because of ONE troll, arn't you feeding the troll as well?

This lock is probably beyond Mr. Troll's wildest dreams.

They're currently locked due to persistent vandalism. In the Trope Repair discussion its been mentioned the troll has been dodging bans and even vandalizing the sandbox version of the main page.

Someone does not feel the love & tolerance.

Anyways, I don't know what to tell you if you want to continue to contribute to the pony pages. The Ensemble Dark Horse, Episode Guide, and Crowning Moments sections are still unlocked if you'd like to add things to those.

Personally I think having the pages locked for now might be a good thing. Gives us time to think over how to keep this all organized and readable when Season 2 rolls around and we'll have actual new examples to put up here. We need to plan these things, before the flood gates open!

So when season 2 comes out this page will be unlocked?

I hope so. Keeping the page up to date will be a NIGHTMARE if it isn't!

Check the episode recap page.

You can still edit the sandbox, and the mods will then make the updates to the actual page (expect them to do it when they get around to it, and to pick and choose which edits they will make, however).

Also, keep in the mind that the trolls have tried to attack that, too.

That's already been mentioned in the episode recap page.

Agree. We should really remove that line.

Definately

It just happened again, at about the same time the vandals hit here.

I checked, the Folder tags are in place and no misspellings are there. Its just not splitting it into folders. I guess splitting it into more folders won't work...

I think one thing we can do is make sure we're not putting tropes in that aren't really there. I love this show, but surly not every trope on the net applies to it in some way or another.

Either way, we should think of ways of better organizing the pony pages in preparation for Season 2. We all know things are just gonna explode as soon as soon as the first teaser shows up.

It breaks my heart to see a clean tropes page get all folderized, but... 20,835 words might be a little bit on the long side, I grant you. That's a fair-sized novella.

How do you think we should split it? A-M / N-Z, or something smaller?

A-M works for me. If there's no objections I'll make the folders when I get more time later.

Query. Are you going to merely put folder tags in the document, or are you planning to do something more like Bleach and create REAL new subfolders out of subpages?

Taking a quick look, it seems the reason Bleach has separate sub-pages for it's tropes is the high volume of material covered (each single sub-page is actually as long or longer that the main Friendship Is Magic page, itself). For now, just using folders should be enough, and if the folder contents get as massive as the Bleach example, then we can think about sub-pages.

That's my opinion.

^Correct. Unless the writers go batshit crazy with Loads And Loads Of Characters in Season 2, folders will suffice for now to keep the page less intimidating.

I'll make the changes over tonight.

And it's done. I also moved the Abridged Series entries to the Trivia section. They're funny and I like them, but aren't in-universe and don't belong on the main page.

SPECIAL NOTE!

Over on the WMG page something happened, so I'm noting it here in case it happens on the main page, too.

If a page gets full, it won't matter how many folders it has, because it will refuse to accept some edits.

If the main page starts acting up in this manner, THEN it will be time to split the page in a Bleach-like fashion. Until then, we can (if needed) just split folders that get too big into smaller folders.

PLEASE NOTICE: at the time I am writing this, there is nothing wrong with the main page, it is working just fine, and there is no need to split it. This is being noted for future reference only.

Thank you.

The normally cheerful pony suddenly turning into a schizophrenic wreck is already pretty bad, but the fact that she doesn't seem to change much personality-wise suggests that she's already close to breaking point. In other words, people are creeped out by it because it just seems to make too much sense.

I thought it was funny too. Just another case of the fandumb taking something too seriously.

Isn't Fan Dumb a little strong? She's normally the happiest character, and to see her break so hard was creepy.

It walks the line between creepy and funny. It's Black Comedy at it's finest and as with most Black Comedy, some people can be disturbed by it.

Not to mention the music.

If anypony else had been the nut, it would have been Black Comedy. But Pinkie Pie can make anything cute. Nopony else could make madness look so adorable!

@92.5.19.151

Interesting thought there.

This may be Fanon, but A Precious Rainbow, one of the alternate endings to Cupcakes, claims that Pinkie's crazy scene in "Party Of One" is what caused the "Cupcake Killer" incident.

It moved from "Main/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic" to "WesternAnimation/.MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic."

ninja'd

Has anybody else notice that moving the article to the Western Animation directory created a split in the count of Facebook Likes?

Periphery Demographic ?

Derpy Hooves, Goddess of Periphery Demographics

Wouldn't Derpy fit more as Goddess of Ascended Memes?

I think the page image should be an official image.

EDIT: nevermind, you fixed the link.

I prefer other picture that the one with legless Twilight.

Thebes: That IS an official image. And if it looks appealing scaled down, I think it would make for a much better representation of the cast.

Well, I can still make everyone out after scaling down to current page image's size. But it's awfully cluttered and I don't know if I'd like it, if I didn't already know all the characters.

Also, do we want that "Comic Con 2011" in the middle?

Styx D: there's a version without the comic-con... though I agree, it could be a bit too busy for the main page. Though it would be perfect for the Characters page or the Ensemble Dark Horse page, seeing as how most of the picture consists of the show's Ensemble Darkhorses

I don't know about a page image, but it is a good representation of the more well-recognized characters (mane, support, & background).

Since we have an Image LInks page with only one image linked on it, I'm just going to just add this image there. If I'm doing it wrong, I'm sure someone will correct my error.

I was especially amused by the three characters reacting to the cockatrice in the crowd (on the lower right).

EDIT: Whoops! Somepony beat me to it! go and see for yourselves!

I posted this picture there at same time I started this topic :D

I still would prefer this than current one.

crap, how do I delete this.

For Ensemble Darkpony we need iconic picture of Derpy from first episode.

I found it on one of the recap-pages. Freeze-Frame Bonus is always episode-specific, so I'm fine with that.

I found it on the main page, in the A-M folder, between "Forgotten Phlebotinum" and "Furry Confusion".

I checked the main page's editing history, and it was never deleted (although, like everything else, it has been edited a few times). Maybe it was moved to correct alphabetical order?