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Anything That Moves is supposed to be for characters who have very broad sexual standards; they'll sleep with anyone, male or female, but not to the extent of literally "anything that moves". Unsurprisingly, tropers fail to understand that the title is hyperbole, and misuse it for Extreme Omnisexual. Other times it's used as a synonym for Really Gets Around when the character is heterosexual. According to the wick check of 51 examples, 24 (about half) take the title literally, only 7 are correct, and 20 are other misuse. Propose a rename.

Wick check:

51/51

    Misuse (Extreme Omnisexual) (24) 

     Misuse (just bisexual) (2) 

     Correct use (8) 

    Misuse (seemingly heterosexual) (7) 

    ZCE / Other misuse / Unsure (11) 

Oddly enough, she doesn't actually wear makeup offstage except for media appearances, but she spends enough time on hair care to make up for it.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Mar 14th 2023 at 9:31:36 AM

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#1: Mar 5th 2023 at 11:25:39 AM

To-do list:

    Original post 
Note: This thread was proposed by nw09.

Anything That Moves is supposed to be for characters who have very broad sexual standards; they'll sleep with anyone, male or female, but not to the extent of literally "anything that moves". Unsurprisingly, tropers fail to understand that the title is hyperbole, and misuse it for Extreme Omnisexual. Other times it's used as a synonym for Really Gets Around when the character is heterosexual. According to the wick check of 51 examples, 24 (about half) take the title literally, only 7 are correct, and 20 are other misuse. Propose a rename.

Wick check:

51/51

    Misuse (Extreme Omnisexual) (24) 

     Misuse (just bisexual) (2) 

     Correct use (8) 

    Misuse (seemingly heterosexual) (7) 

    ZCE / Other misuse / Unsure (11) 

Oddly enough, she doesn't actually wear makeup offstage except for media appearances, but she spends enough time on hair care to make up for it.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Mar 14th 2023 at 9:31:36 AM

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#2: Mar 5th 2023 at 11:26:19 AM

Paging ~nw09. Anyway, the current name is based on a Stock Phrase (based on part of it and not all of it), so I'm not opposed to a rename.

Edit: Extraordinarily Broad Sexual Standards already exists as a redirect, so there's a starting point in terms of potential new names.

Edit: See my next post.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Mar 5th 2023 at 4:32:00 AM

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#3: Mar 5th 2023 at 11:37:34 AM

Maybe Broad Sexual Standards if we want something shorter.

Personally, I am leaning on merging with Extreme Omnisexual under a new name (if needed) and broadening because I think they are similar enough to be merged without issue and I am not sure if a rename is going to fix the confusion.

Edited by MacronNotes on Mar 5th 2023 at 2:41:32 PM

Macron's notes
Snicka Since: Jun, 2011
#4: Mar 5th 2023 at 11:39:23 AM

The name Anything That Moves sounds more like Extreme Omnisexual than Extraordinarily Broad Sexual Standards; so I suggest making the name Anything That Moves to a redirect to Extreme Omnisexual no matter what we do with the current page.

Edited by Snicka on Mar 5th 2023 at 8:39:39 PM

amathieu13 Since: Aug, 2013
#5: Mar 5th 2023 at 11:47:41 AM

So, I know this thread is about the trope's name, but one thing that has bugged me about this trope for a while now is that it's definition is broad enough that it encompasses "horndogs who are willing to venture outside of their sexual preferences if it means they can get their rocks off" and people who explicitly identify as bi/pansexual (several on page examples are just identifying that a character is bi/pan for example). And I don't think those two things are actually the same in terms of characterization, considering that "character is bi/pan" isn't a trope.

The discussion page shows that this murkiness regarding if we're talking about genuine sexual orientation or just sex-crazed characters has been a confusing aspect of the trope for some time [1].

I feel like it needs more than just a rename to clarify this.

Edited by amathieu13 on Mar 5th 2023 at 2:51:15 PM

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#6: Mar 5th 2023 at 12:32:18 PM

Anything That Moves sounds like it's basically a more restrictive version of Extreme Omnisexual, so I agree with Macron on merging them. The broader scope also avoids this just being seen as a "charater is bi/pan" trope.

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#7: Mar 5th 2023 at 12:35:06 PM

Yeah, I don't think bi/pan characters should count. The title implies omnisexuality (being willing to sleep with humans, robots, furries, and more) not just "Bob likes people of all genders".

I honestly think lumping "will sleep with anyone because they're excessively horny" and "character has a sexual orientation" together is offensive and nonsensical anyway. Like, that isn't how bisexuality and pansexuality work, and we already have Depraved Bisexual anyway. I mean, most characters who fit the "will sleep with anyone" trait are probably bi or pan anyway, but simply being bi or pan shouldn't be an automatic qualifier.

Edited by WarJay77 on Mar 5th 2023 at 3:39:26 PM

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#8: Mar 5th 2023 at 1:04:46 PM

My instinct is to disambiguate between Extreme Omnisexual (characters who'll sleep with anything) and Really Gets Around (characters who get it a lot — don't think it's limited to hetero characters anyway). I know RGA speaks more to the character's attractiveness/sexual prowess than low standards, but that distinction doesn't seem to show up in examples.

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#11: Mar 5th 2023 at 2:31:38 PM

[up][up][up]Honestly, yeah, changing my vote to that. I took another look at the wick check and saw that the examples that were labeled correct are still not in good shape (they seem a bit lacking in detail to me, and they're very brief), so I don't see much to work with if we rename, so disambiguating sounds like a good idea with that in mind.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Mar 5th 2023 at 4:34:12 AM

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MacronNotes (she/her) (Captain) Relationship Status: Less than three
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#12: Mar 5th 2023 at 2:33:43 PM

Disambiguating sounds fine to me.

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amathieu13 Since: Aug, 2013
#13: Mar 5th 2023 at 7:47:53 PM

I'd honestly prefer a merge with Extreme Omnisexual over a disambig since EO is just The Same, but More of Anything That Moves anyways, but I'd be fine with both options.

Could also add Situational Sexuality to a possible disambig, with the situation in this trope being "I am horny"

Edited by amathieu13 on Mar 5th 2023 at 10:48:38 AM

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#15: Mar 5th 2023 at 11:30:19 PM

Disambiguate between Extreme Omnisexual and Really Gets Around (though honestly I'd love for Extreme Omnisexual to be renamed Anything That Moves if people are already confusing it with that trope. Anything That Moves is a name that sticks in the mind better)

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#17: Mar 6th 2023 at 4:38:36 AM

I'm fine with either the merge or Disambig option.

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#18: Mar 6th 2023 at 5:13:32 AM

Part of the reason why Anything That Moves sounds like Extreme Omnisexual is because it's called Anything That Moves, not Anyone Who Moves, suggesting sexual lust for nonhumans.

Edited by Snicka on Mar 6th 2023 at 2:13:45 PM

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#19: Mar 6th 2023 at 6:41:36 AM

[up]The wording that was used was used because the saying that someone promiscuous will have sex with anything that moves is a preexisting phrase and not something the site came up. I don't know if the "anyone who moves" phrasing is ever used.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Mar 6th 2023 at 8:42:09 AM

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#20: Mar 6th 2023 at 6:58:20 AM

Probably not. I guess the phrase is an exaggeration. I vote for Disambiguation then: Really Gets Around for a sexually promiscuous person, and Extreme Omnisexual for someone who'll have sex with literally anything that moves.

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#21: Mar 6th 2023 at 7:41:16 AM

Merge, but I prefer the name Anything That Moves to be kept.

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#23: Mar 6th 2023 at 11:56:31 AM

[up]Really Gets Around is not necessarily limited to a single sex though; there are bisexual / pansexual characters included in that trope too. It just indicates that the character is extremely promiscuous.

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#24: Mar 6th 2023 at 9:42:08 PM

[up]Then that further points Anything That Moves being redundant with other tropes.

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11th Mar '23 6:19:16 AM

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The previous crowner has decided to merge Extreme Omnisexual and Anything That Moves. What should the new name be? As stated on the aforementioned crowner, both EO and ATM will be crowner options in this Alt titles crowner.

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