"The author reserves the right to have a better idea.
Most of the time, the Word of God
knows exactly what it's talking about. It's consistent. It's, well, Canon
But sometimes, the Word of God
can't quite make up its mind what to say. Maybe the writer hasn't decided what the right answer is, or the audience asked him a question he didn't think he'd have to answer at all
. Maybe he actually changed his mind sometime after he gave the original answer. Sometimes, it's simply that he's a Lying Creator
. Or the "creator" is actually a series of ghost writers as in some franchise series and Depending on the Writer
don't do a great job of keeping the character consistent. Either way, a Flip Flop Of God is when the Word of God
contradicts itself somehow. The fundamental unreliability this reveals — any author, at any time, might commit this trope — can be considered an argument in favor of the Death of the Author
Compare and contrast Shrug of God
, when a creator outright refuses to give a direct answer. Can overlap with this trope if they later do
give a straight answer, or if they contradict an earlier straight answer by saying the detail in question is intentionally ambiguous.
Different from Retcon
, because Retcons
are changes to something that happens in the story, instead of the Word of God
. Also different from a flip-flop worn
by an in-universe god
, or a god that's made of flip-flops.
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Anime And Manga
- The creator of Ah! My Goddess has done some flip-flopping over what the correct translation of the title is (namely, whether the first word should be "Ah" or "Oh").
- Rumiko Takahashi (in)famously replied to the "Pregnant Ranma" problem by saying, "I don't think about that, and neither should you." But then she went and wrote the Musk Dynasty storyline, where animals cursed in the same spring as Ranma were taken as wives and bore children. This answered the first half of the question ("What if Ranma got pregnant...?") and, indirectly, answers what would be needed to avoid the second half ("...and then changed back to a guy?")
- Kazuki Takahashi can't seem to decide when he's gonna stop making Yu-Gi-Oh! spinoffs. First he said GX was the last one, then came 5Ds. Then he said 5Ds would be the last, and then the announce and release of a new one called Ze-X-al.
- Masashi Kishimoto from Naruto fame, first implied in the databooks that Hidan would eventually lose his immortality and die while being buried alive, The other Akatsuki members even explicitly referred to him as being killed in action, however he later backed down on this, and even a resurrected Kakuzu reasoned that since Hidan is not among the ones resurrected by Kabuto, he must still be alive. He is also conflicted about which of the Hokages is the strongest. He first stated that the 4th was the most talented ninja ever, a One-Man Army everyone was ordered to retreat from immediately during the war. Then the third Hokage is claimed to have learned every jutsu in Konoha, shown to be able to fight off the 1st and 2nd Hokage reincarnated plus Orochimaru combined, while his summoning, Enma, remarks that his current state is pathetic compared to what he used to be. And then, much later, he went completely over-the-top with the 1st Hokage and turned him into a walking God thanks to his Wood Element Jutsu and incomparable chakra.
- For many years, Hideaki Anno was very defensive of both of the endings for Neon Genesis Evangelion, despite their highly controversial reputation, stating that he wouldn't change anything. Anno has since announced that the Rebuild of Evangelion movie series will indeed have an entirely different ending, rather than a retelling of End of Evangelion. He however never stated that Rebuild was a remake. According to popular fan theory it is actually a sequel.
- Puella Magi Madoka Magica: It is ambiguous whether or not Sayaka killed the two men on the train for badmouthing their girlfriends in Episode 8, due to multiple Words of God. The director Shinbo has officially Jossed it, the manga writer Hanokage says she did, and Gen Urobuchi (the writer) says it's supposed to be ambiguous the way it was written.
- Marvel goes back and forth over whether or not The Hulk has ever accidentally killed someone during his city destroying rampages. This lead to a notable Retcon at least once; the Hulk was sent into space for the Planet Hulk storyline because a fight between him and the Thing inadvertently caused the deaths of over twenty people. This was later retconned into severe injuries, which made the whole "shoot him into space" thing into retroactive Disproportionate Retribution.
- Deadpool admits that whether or not he's really Wade Wilson depends on who's writing him.
- After the Blackest Night crossover, Dan DiDio famously stated that "Dead means dead" in regards to DC's habit of resurrecting dead characters. In accordance with this, a planned Teen Titans storyline that would've seen the resurrection of Kid Devil was axed. Then came the New 52 Continuity Reboot, where a number of previously-dead characters like Ryan Choi were brought back.
- Joe Quesada was adamant that the mainstream Marvel Universe would never crossover with the Ultimate Marvel Universe, and is on record saying that the idea would be creatively bankrupt. Fast-forward to 2012, where Marvel launched a heavily-publicized crossover between Peter Parker, the mainstream universe Spider-Man, and Miles Morales, the new Ultimate Spider-Man. This was largely done to celebrate Spider-Man's 50th anniversary, as well as cash-in on the success of the The Amazing Spider-Man movie.
- For years, Brian Michael Bendis was adamant that Ronin from the New Avengers was always intended to be Maya Lopez in a new identity, despite early publicity materials strongly indicating that the character was actually supposed to be Daredevil in disguise. Bendis eventually confirmed in the first New Avengers hardcover that Ronin was indeed intended to be Daredevil, and that the decision to have it turn out to be Maya instead was a last minute change.
- James Robinson was initially very defensive of Justice League: Cry for Justice, and even said in a text piece that he had "No apologies" for any of the controversial elements. Then at a convention, he confessed that killing Lian Harper to give angst to her white grandfather was an editorial decision, and not one he agreed with either.
- Is Deckard in Blade Runner a replicant? Director Ridley Scott says yes this week, while actor Harrison Ford claims that he and Scott both agreed not. The screenwriter also says no. The various edits of the film lean more one one way or another.
- The book the film is based off of also very clearly indicates Deckard is not an android. He was only accused of being one as a false pretense for being arrested. Phil Resch is the only character where there is any real question about whether he is a replicant or human and this is resolved very quickly and definitively in the story.
- Director Alain Resnais and writer Alain Robbe-Grillet disagree about whether the woman goes away with the man at the end of Last Year at Marienbad.
- The makers of the Pirates of the Caribbean movies can't decide whether The Stinger for At World's End is happy or bittersweet. Sometimes they say that Will was freed from his duty as Captain of the Flying Dutchman because Elizabeth remained faithful the ten years he was gone, while other times they say no, he's Captain for life, this is just his one day on dry land between tours.
- Star Wars has so many, they might be too numerous to list completely. Some of the more notable ones include why Chewbacca didn't get a medal, and how many films Lucas had originally intended to make. An interesting one being the whole "who shot first?" deal. First Han shoots and fries Greedo. Then Greedo shoots first and misses point-blank. Then they shoot at about the same time. Then a picture turns up of Lucas wearing a "Han Shot First!" shirt... One theory is that Greedo shooting first was just Executive Meddling, and Lucas never liked the change in the first place. Another theory is that he just sincerely hates Star Wars fans. (Most recently, Lucas has started claiming Greedo always shot first, it just wasn't clear in the original print.)
- Total Recall (1990): Director Paul Verhoeven has gone back and forth on the issue of whether the events of the film were real or all in Quaid's mind. His position seems to depend on whether there are hopes of getting a sequel made at the time he is asked that question.
- Christopher Nolan said that at no point in any Batman film he directed would he include any incarnation of the Robin character. He then went ahead and did it in The Dark Knight Rises, albeit not in the way you'd expect.
- Shane Black said there was no way he'd include the Mandarin in Iron Man 3 due to the character's reputation as a racist stereotype. The Mandarin ended up appearing as the film's lead villain, but with a major change; he was played by a half-Indian actor rather than a Chinese one, largely in order to avoid offending Chinese audiences and the movie's own Chinese financial backers.
- There was a twist to this. The Mandarin turns out to be a Decoy Leader played by a British actor. The "real" Mandarin is Aldrich Killian.
- Harry Potter
- In the first few weeks after Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows was released, J.K. Rowling's answers to questions that either went unanswered in the series or about what happened between the end and the epilogue were a bit contradictory. She eventually settled on a single answer for most of them. For a supposedly well planned out series that spanned seven titles and over a decade in real time, it is disappointing that for so many things she only seemed to decide upon an answer after the series was finished.
- Book 7 provided lovely gems such as Grindelwald being alive, Hermione's middle name being 'Jean', and different Secret Keeper rules just to name a few.
- In an interview she did with Pottercast, Rowling and the interviewers became confused regarding Hannah Abbott's blood status - she had always assumed her to be Muggle Born, but had written that a family member of hers was buried in a wizard cemetery. Her final decision: "Oh, let's just split the difference and call her half-blood."
- On a more minor note, Rowling apparently couldn't make up her mind on what year Hermione Granger was born - originally she gave Hermione's year of birth as 1980 (same as Harry and Ron) and later changed it to 1979.
- And now, as if the shipping wars weren't bad enough, Rowling has said that Harry and Hermione would have been a better match in some ways and that Hermione settling down with Ron was just her clinging to "wish fulfillment."
- Anne McCaffrey couldn't seem to make up her mind about, well, anything related to Dragonriders of Pern. For instance, whether measurements given for the dragons are in feet (really the only feasible size, but a bit small for the early descriptions) or meters (an outright ridiculous figure). Or whether greens are infertile from firestone or genetics (at one point she actually said both in the same sentence).
- Whether or not William Gibson's Sprawl is a dystopia seems to depend on what the general outlook on the future seems to be in the SF Community. When Neuromancer first came out in The Eighties, Gibson was adamant that The Sprawl was a dystopia with all the problems of modern urban environments turned up to eleven. Now, twenty years later, Gibson's claiming the exact opposite while simultaneously trying to cosy up to younger, more optimistic writers.
- Bret Easton Ellis, the author of American Psycho, can't ever decide if Patrick Bateman was a Serial Killer or of his killing spree was made up in his twisted mind. In the novel it's intentionally left ambiguous.
- L. Frank Baum explicitly cancelled his "Oz" series several times, only to be forced to resume the series for financial reasons and write his way out of whatever corner he'd previously trapped himself in.
- He managed to start flip-flopping in the first two books. Glinda is happy to send the Scarecrow back to the Emerald City to rule in the first book, but in the second, she refuses to help him regain the throne because the Wizard had usurped it in the first place.
Live Action TV
- Babylon 5:
- On Usenet during the broadcast of season 3, series creator J. Michael Straczynski stated that Valen, the ancient Minbari leader and messiah figure, had no children. In season 4, the episode "Atonement" revolved around Valen having had children. JMS has admitted to outright lying in order to avoid spoiling future storylines, naming Valen as a specific example.
- Also, in a behind-the-scenes documentary made during season 1, Jerry Doyle (who played Michael Garibaldi) said that JMS told him that Garibaldi would never get a girl. In the show, Garibaldi ends up reconciling with his old girlfriend Lise in season 4 and marrying her in season 5.
- Not only that but he also inherits the fortune of her late husband, becoming the head of a Mega Corp..
- The producers said Sylar had lost all his stolen abilities, but the last episode of season 2 showed him using telekinesis. Season 3 shows him retaining other powers... all while official canon and Word of God says he lost all of them.
- The new Word of God attempts to reconcile this, saying he lost all his powers except for his telekinesis and giving a vague rationalization about his previously unknown empathic abilities. His other powers from season 1 were only demonstrated by a version of him from an alternate future.
- The producers also initially claimed back in Season 2 that Bennet, Mohinder, and Ando would remain normal humans and not receive superpowers. Season 3 pretty much threw that out the window with regards to Mohinder (who gets Spider powers) and Ando (who can now shoot Hadokens!). The only non-powered human left in the main cast is Badass Normal Mr. Bennet, who doesn't need any lame powers because he's pretty much The Goddamn Batman.
- The producers of LOST were notorious for making claims about the direction of the series and then going against those claims later. It's not exactly clear whether the producers were intentionally misleading, forced in different directions by the network, simply making things up as they went along, or all three.
- An early season 1 interview said that there would be no Time Travel. Desmond's consciousness-jumping in seasons 3 and 4 could be seen as bending this rule, but season 5 flat out broke it. Script coordinator Gregg Nations claimed that an early season 1 episode, "Solitary," was supposed to hint at time travel and time anomalies on the island, but ABC nixed the idea, afraid that people would stop watching if time travel muddled the plot.
- An interview claimed that Season 3 wouldn't feature Desmond running naked through the jungle, but then there's Desmond running naked through the jungle.
- Damon Lindeloff claimed in a 2005 interview that the show had no supernatural elements, and everything had a scientific explanation. Even if you take that as only referring to things that had already happened, the statement still covers the Smoke Monster, who turned out to be a former human who became what he is through magic.
- Some of us would say that everything, even time travel, smoke monsters, millennia-old humans, teleportation, post-mortem consciousness, and any of the other unexplained events of the series has a scientific explanation: we just don't know what it is.
- iCarly: The week before the "iSaved Your Life" episode aired, a promo aired showing 2 of the main characters kissing. Dan Schneider, in an effort to calm the shippers of a pairing involving a different character, implied it might not be what it appeared. Cue the episode, where they ended up kissing 7 or 8 times, and it was pretty much as it appeared.
- About The X-Files, Chris Carter made repeated statements that there was no hint of a Mulder/Scully romance.
- RDM's flat denial of any possibility of an Adama/Roslin in Battlestar Galactica romance. Turned out about the same way.
- Depending on if you ask Matthew Graham or Ashley Pharaoh, Jim Keats of Ashes to Ashes is either Satan incarnate (according to Graham, sometimes), the Antichrist (Graham again, in different interviews), or a high-ranking agent of evil/The Devil/David Bowie (Pharoah, according to Graham). Don't even start with the fans' opinions. Let's just say, his status is up in the air and leave it at that.
- Doctor Who:
- Producer Russell T Davies refused to confirm whether or not the Face of Boe is really Jack Harkness, calling it only "a theory". In the DVD commentary for "Last of the Time Lords", Julie Gardner (an executive producer) accused Davies of "back-pedaling" on the two characters being obviously the same; Davies had also already added a line of dialog into "Gridlock" that strongly implied the same thing, which he points out on the same DVD commentary. He's since said that it stops being funny if we ever know either way.
- If the writers for Power Rangers ever claim that a certain series takes place either Twenty Minutes into the Future or in an Alternate Continuity, expect a Reunion Show to later shove it back into the present-day main universe.
- Lost Galaxy and Ninja Storm got this, though SPD has been able to keep its 2025 setting so far; team-ups feature Time Travel. RPM is so recent it just hasn't happened yet.
- RPM now explicitly takes place in another dimension (pretty much the only explanation for Samurai not being in a post-apocalyptic wasteland and featuring someone from Morphin'.)
- There's also Jonathon Tzachor's constant flip-flop over the state of the series' continuity. Initially, it was one whole universe except RPM. Then, he decided that none of the Disney-era series happened (Ninja Storm through RPM). Then, he decided that every season happened in different continuities - even the old-school ones that came before the Super Sentai format was picked up! Which makes Mighty Morphin season 3 and Turbo's endings Downer Endings!
- Quantum Leap: One of the house rules according to creator Donald Bellisario, was that Sam would never leap into a real person. For the first four seasons, he didn't; we only saw "kisses with history". But the rule was suddenly dropped for Season 5, which opened with Sam leaping into Lee Harvey Oswald (a story Bellisario particularly wanted to tell as a counterpunch to Oliver Stone's JFK), and continued with a host of others: Marilyn Monroe's chauffeur, Dr. Ruth, and even the King himself. According to Usenet posts made at the time from someone with connections to the production staff, this was Executive Meddling at work: the only way Bellisario could get Season 5 made was by giving the network execs the stories they wanted, which involved Sam leaping into real people.
- Glee has Sam. Sam was originally intended to be gay and his role was partly to develop as Kurt's boyfriend. The writers changed their mind before they filmed anything. They gave the Kurt's boyfriend storyline to another new character, Blaine. Sam was made straight with only extremely nitpicky evidence to suggest he might be bi, but nothing has come of it so far.
- It's easy to forget that Star Trek: Voyager commenced with lots of declaration that it would have as little to do with the other shows as possible, and would feature all new aliens. Oh, and those two Ferengi who got stuck in the Delta Quadrant in TNG would never appear. Also, no Borg. How did that go?
- When Willow's relationship with Tara started budding in season 4 of Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Joss Whedon was cautious to use the word lesbian, because "then it would stop being about these two people," preferring to not use a label and just see them as two women in love. He also stated that if Oz were ever to come back, the situation would be very complicated because Willow had strong feelings towards both. Flash forward to season 7, where in an interview Whedon instead outright says Willow is a lesbian. The writers discussed having her hook up with a man after Tara's death, but went with Kennedy because they didn't want to make her "anything less than gay."
- The Sopranos creator David Chase didn't help the "Did Tony die in the finale" debate by first stating there was no hidden meaning, then saying "anyone who wants to watch it, it's all there", and then later commenting "there's more than one way of looking at the ending." In other words: Tony's dead. Unless he isn't.
- Yngwie Malmsteen has a very well-known instrumental that has been officially known as both "Arpeggios From Hell" and "Molto Arpeggiosa".
- The "excerpt" (which is actually the majority of the overall composition) that gained youtube fame is titled the former, with the overall piece titled the latter
- Starflyer 59 has a few.
- According to the Leave Here a Stranger liner notes, the song "When I Learn to Sing" begins with the lyrics "Because of my genes, a problem I don't need..." According to the official Sf59 fakebook, the song in question begins with "Because of machines, that burn the life out of me..."
- One of the more obscure b-sides is named either "Never Had a Name" or just "Never Had One", depending on whether you consult the liner notes or the label on the disc itself. A slightly less obscure track is named "Magic" on every version released by Tooth & Nail Records, but is named "Majic" on every version released by Burnt Toast Vinyl.
- In of the most confusing events ever, Crypton first described Vocaloids Kagamine Rin and Len as mirror images, then took that back and called them twins. Later, they ended up taking both statements back and ended up leaving it up to anyone's interpretation. This resulted in one of the most annoying situations for anyone in the fandom, where any video involving Rin and Len resulted in a comment war over which is which.
- Try the home game: Have two people send an email to the official Dungeons & Dragons support line, asking the same rules-clarification question about just about anything in any edition. You win the game if both replies are contradictory. Points deducted if you asked about stealth or Polymorph. No points if you used material from Dragon magazine. People say the same thing about Warhammer. The various forums have plenty of examples; basically, if it isn't in the books or the FAQ, it's Cust Serv's House Rules. The FAQ's on DnD's Character Optimization forum are often regarded as house rules and nothing more. Oddly, the proper method of offering optimization on those very boards is to adhere to the person's DM's house rules and nothing else, only offering minor suggestions if the DM hasn't already said otherwise. Not that many people do it the proper way.
- At one point, Official Errata contained two contradictory answers as to whether Immaculate Monk Dynasts got the Enlightened Charms in addition to their 5 Immaculate Martial Arts Charms or not. Both answers were later removed, leaving it completely up to the ST.
- Not to mention all the various contradictions (Zeal, anyone?) that spring up if you read all the Charms that were published since the game's release. Sure, the game evolved, changed a bit and everything that goes with it, but it went too far in many aspects, so much so that many of the original statements about the setting are simply incorrect by the "new" standards. For instance, in the First Edition corebook, it's pretty much treated as fact that the Solars ruled over a Golden Age that was only ended due to a possible horrible future coming from it, with the tales about how horrible the Solars were being latter-day fabrications to discredit them. Later books establish that the Solars were arguably worse than the Dragonblooded claim — although even now, some of the claims against the "anathema" are still outright lies. The Second Edition corebook has codified this darkening of the First Age to the core premise.
- Errata for Dreams of the First Age replaced Zeal with an entirely different charm, banishing that particular issue.
- The Nameless (and place-changing) lair of Ma-Ha Suchi.
- In Illuminati New World Order, it's possible to give a group a temporary attribute, and then give them power-boosts that are only legitimate for that attribute. Such power boosts are normally permanent, but when the attribute goes away, so will the power. The rules say that only permanent power boosts count for victory conditions. So, does a power boost as described above count for victory? Steve Jackson originally said yes. The official FAQ now says no.
- Games Workshop can't decide just who Ollanius Pius is. He went from an ordinary human, to a Terminator (veteran Space Marine), to the Emperor's personal bodyguard, to an ordinary human who just happens to be 30,000 years old.
- Greg Farshtey, the main writer for BIONICLE, has been known to flip flop on certain matters, such as whether or not Zaktan is definitely dead. At first it was a definite "yes", but later he became ambiguous about it. The character seemingly died in an explosion, which for any other character would be a definite kill, but Zaktan's ability to pull himself together made it highly questionable. Apparently, he came out a couple of years after the story had ended to confirm that the character didn't die.
- The issue of Carnivore Confusion in Darwin's Soldiers has been inconsistently addressed. Serris has said that anthro and "normal" animals exist and eating "normal" animals was acceptable. But he has also said to assume that all meat is seafood.
- Sean Malstrom has maintained for years that user-generated content is something that is severely hurting the game industry. But when he wrote in February 2012 about the possibilities of a "New Zelda" (a hypothetical back-to-the-basics game in the same vein as New Super Mario Bros. 1 and its sequels), he mentioned how user-created dungeons might be a good idea.
- He also keeps claiming that a game's quality is determined entirely by its sales and declaring that anyone who thinks otherwise is wrong (citations here, here, here, and here), yet he has admitted in a least one entry that sales are unrelated to how good a game is and many terrible games sold well. He even went as far as to claim that he doesn't consider Donkey Kong Country (the second highest-selling SNES game, no less) to be a good game in the same post.
- Has happened in the past in We Are All Pokémon Trainers as people have changed aspects of their characters.
- Ben 10 featured Gwen gaining obviously supernatural powers from amulets, a bracelet, and a book. Then, in Ben 10: Alien Force it is revealed that, just like everyone else's powers, hers are of alien origin, and suddenly she's a purple lantern instead of the girl who once made tornadoes, stun blasts etc. Way to kill originality there.
- Dwayne McDuffie has stated that other writers can overturn his Word of God.
- But she's part Magic Using Alien. The energy source used for her (and her Grandmother's) powers is described as Mana. She's just been using more innate powers than human-made spells lately.
- It's better to just not think about it too much when it comes to Ben 10 Alien Force and canon. Not only being inconsistent with canon from the previous series (Kevin going from absorbing energy to transmuting into materials he touches, and going from being abandoned by his parents because he was a freak to being the son of a Plumber who still sees his mother) but being inconsistent with it's own canon (the Omnitrix going from containing the DNA of the aliens itself and being able to actually have the aliens escape from it to just being a simple uplink device that just receives the DNA information from Primus). You'll end up pulling your hair out trying to make sense of it all.
- Its sequel, Ben 10: Ultimate Alien, at least rectified some of the flip flops, specifically regarding Kevin. His energy absorbing powers and his radical personality change between series were actually made into major plot points. He absorbs material instead of energy because he doesn't want to mutate into a hideous beast again (which ended up happening again the one time he absorbed the Omnitrix's power again), and he was actually just an estranged kid who ran away from home, not abandoned as he claimed. Also, Gwen begins to use proper 'spells' again.
- Also, there is flip-flopping when it comes to what different creators say. Derrick J. Wyatt is not afraid to contradict Dwanyne Mc Duffie.
- The South Park writers had said that they wouldn't allow Cartman to murder anyone. This was after Cartman murdered Scott Tenorman's parents in "Scott Tenorman Must Die", and before Cartman tried to commit genocide in "The Passion of the Jew" and again in "Ginger Kids".
- From a Certain Point of View they are still true to their word, as a farmer was responsible for the murder of Scott's parents. But Cartman is still guilty of murder, as Cartman intentionally engineered the situation to kill Scott Tenorman's parents. The Word of God talk about it on their commentary, and specifically mention they avoided Cartman actually killing them himself even if he did engineer the situation.
- He ran over numerous people in "Poor and Stupid".
- And in the Coon Vs. Coon and Friends trilogy, he had Cthulhu kill tons of people.
- In the commentary-mini for "The Coon," Trey say they still have no idea who Mysterion is. A year later, in the commentary for "Mysterion Rises," Trey says he and Matt figured it was Kenny towards the end of the first episode's production (though it's possible he meant the first episode in the trilogy, and not the very first Coon episode).
- Disney has flipped flopped between whether Chip 'n Dale are brothers or just friends. Chip 'n Dale Rescue Rangers has them as being unrelated Heterosexual Life-Partners, but in previous years they've been shown to be brothers.
- Are Minnie and Mickey married, or just dating? Walt once stated that they're married but can be shown at any state of romance if the plot demands for it, but the company still flip-flops about this.
- Over the years, Disney's come to like the ambiguity in regards to Mickey and Minnie's relationship; it keeps everything more flexible that way. Back in the mid-1980s, Disney's marketeers actually planned a massive marketing push after the disastrous Totally Minnie campaign note in which, after years of speculation, Mickey and Minnie were finally going to tie the knot in a huge ceremony at Disneyland... and there was a MASSIVE push-back from older animators and Imagineers within the company, who fought tooth-and-nail to prevent it from happening.
- The original head writer of The Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes, Christopher Yost, denied rumors that Ultimate Spider-Man takes place in the same universe, despite Disney XD airing them as part of the same block every Sunday. Jeph Loeb, who became the executive producer for Spider-Man and some episodes from the second season of The Avengers, went on to confirm those rumors. Viewers have pointed out that if Loeb's word becomes true, it would open up a mess of contradictions. (For starters, the title character of Ultimate Spider-Man attends the same high school as Iron Fist and Luke Cage, but Earth's Mightiest Heroes depicts Iron Fist and Luke Cage as older than Spidey). It was also initially reported that Avengers Assemble would be set in the same universe as Ultimate Spider-Man. It's since been confirmed by both Loeb and the creators that Assemble is a sequel to Earth's Mightiest Heroes, albeit with past events only brought up in Broad Strokes, if at all.
- A flashback in Episode 8 clearly shows the characters with their costumes and art style from EMH, making it seem as though they definitely consider it a sequel. However, this would likely only count in the Broad Strokes, since The Falcon's origin directly contradicts the three episodes of EMH he appeared in. The sequence also uses a Thor costume from season one of EMH, but season two garb for everyone else.
- Yost had also flip flopped over whether or not EMH was in direct continuity or not with Wolverine & The X-Men, which he also worked on though not as head writer (which, depending on who you ask, was either Greg Johnson or Craig Kyle, but both of whom were definitely more in control of that series than Yost). Yost initially said that the original intention was for W&TXM and EMH to be in the same universe but the idea was discarded when W&TXM was cancelled. He then turned around and said the two series could still coexist in the same universe if fans wanted them to (Steve Blum voices Wolverine in both for whatever that's worth, along with Fred Tatasciore as the Hulk).
- Partly due to license changes and lengthening the series, Winx Club has flipped-flopped on a lot of aspects of the story — how many transformations there are, whether Sky is a "Crown Prince" or a "King-in-Training" (a major plot point in the first movie), whether Roxy is one of the Winx, etc. The biggest flip-flop, however, was Daphne's background story. Originally, she was Bloom's sister who gave her life to protect her during the Ancestral Witches' attack on Domino. She became a spirit living in Lake Roccaluce. But in season five, Daphne was a Sirenix fairy who became a "disembodied spirit" because of a curse the witches placed on Sirenix. (This story gets modified a bit later in the season.) In the last episode, Bloom breaks the curse, restoring Daphne to her physical form.