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On YMMV.The Last Jedi:

Need to zap the ROCEJ pothole.

On WebVideo.You Can Play This, can the Reddit link in the paragraph “allegations of sexual misconduct and sexual crimes arose“ be zapped? I don’t see any reason to keep this since we aren’t about cataloging drama.

Also, the paragraph “Tragically, however, on January 23, 2014, Justin committed suicide. He shall be missed by family, friends, and fans alike.“ should be in past tense. It’s almost six years since his death now.

Edited by PlasmaPower on Jan 16th 2020 at 2:14:11 PM

Actually, that seems like a legit use, at least if the page is unlocked.

In Horny Devils for the second entry in The dresden files tree please wikword Blood Rites and make it Blood Rites.

Is the page Brother–Sister Incest still have sense being locked, since all the examples are now in subpages that aren't locked?

Anyway, if you don't unlock it yet, I have created a sandbox with the changes I wanted to do, mostly bringing back the contents that are just too small to warrant a subpage.

So, please replace the content of Brother–Sister Incest with Sandbox.Brother Sister Incest

I'll do the clean-up afterward. Thanks in advance.

Done to here, decided to unlock Brother–Sister Incest as in other cases of such "no image" pages the instructions have been followed well enough.

Another one for Music: For Bewitched, please change the link to this.

And for The Darkest of the Hillside Thickets, please pothole "mutilation and death in every land" to here

For the final entry, new link for the title.

Edited by ACW on Jan 17th 2020 at 2:42:14 PM

@ACW A discussion on ATT says otherwise.

Huh, I disagree with that.

Anyway, new quote for Literature at Complete Monster:

EDIT: Two more: first to Anime and Manga; second to Visual Novels

Edited by ACW on Jan 18th 2020 at 7:38:43 AM

On Zerg Rush, please change ZergRush/WebComics to ZergRush/{{Webcomics}} as per the page's recent recreation under the Pages In Accidentally Miscapitalised Namespaces long-term cleanup project. Also, swap out ZergRush.Newspaper Comics for ZergRush.Comic Strips and place in the appropriate alphabetical order, as the former is now a redirect to the latter.

Edited by TurquoiseOwl on Jan 17th 2020 at 4:02:12 AM

Hey with this please:

• Put one on Gundam as a rewrite for the current Zeta entry;
• Two on Anime & Manga;
• Three on the DC section for Comic Books;
• Four as a rewrite for the animated section on Film;
• Five-twelve for the live action section of the same page;
• 13 and 14 on Literature;
• 15-19 on Live-Action TV with 15-18 replacing the current 24 tree;
• 20-23 as rewrites for the BattleTech stuff on Tabletop Games;
• 24 for Video Games;
• 25 and 26 to replace the current The Batman tree on Western Animation;
• 27 for the fan section on Other Media

Cheers!

Edited by 43110 on Jan 17th 2020 at 10:10:10 AM

Here’s something I want to add to Square Peg, Round Trope

• "The Reason You Suck" Speech is when a character tears into another character in-universe about their flaws. However, it has been mis-used to list internet reviewers ranting about a character, work, company or even list drama channels ranting about another person online.

Here’s a pet peeve of mine that happens in this entry on the page:

• Amazingly enough, the word Trope itself has undergone severe Trope Decay on this site. A trope is something that's objectively a part of the work. Audience Reactions and Trivia are specifically stated on these pages to not be tropes, since they occur either in the work's audience or other external materials, not the work itself. Despite this, it's hard to find a page for an Audience Reaction or Trivia item that DOESN'T refer to itself as a Trope, and the YMMV and Trivia subpages for most works contain examples that say "This trope happens" or something similar. Even this very page, supposedly dedicated to correcting misused terminology, contains examples describing Audience Reactions and Trivia as "tropes"! And Playing with a Trope is something that can only be done to actual Tropes since Audience Reactions are very rarely "played" in the first place, so most examples on a YMMV page that are "Subverted" or "Downplayed" are inherently misuse.

The bolded paragraph really bothers me because pointing out your own hypocrisy doesn't make it okay to just let the problem with the page stay. What I would do is remove every instance of Trivia or YMMV being referred to as a trope on this page, so it isn’t misusing the definition of “trope” like everyone else on this site is using, and being an example to follow, not be the bad influence it disowns.

Edited by PlasmaPower on Jan 17th 2020 at 2:04:59 PM

I think someone actually removed as such misused examples of the word "trope" and then added that bolded part. It might make sense to make it all past tense.

Also, should "misused" even have a hyphen?

Big Bra to Fill: At the end of the description, please make it:

"Sub-Trope of Adaptational Ugliness. For inversions, see Adaptational Curves."

ETA: And on the same page, please add to the end of the Witchblade entry: "The series also changed the nature of the Witchblade itself, so that Sara Pezzini didn't lose most of her clothes every time she used it."

Edited by Morgenthaler on Jan 18th 2020 at 6:04:09 AM

On Video Games please wrap Big Bad around "Magic Emperor Ghaleon" instead of having it start with it; on Anime & Manga please delete "Main character" from the ''Seven Mortal Sins entry and pothole Lucifer's name as Villain Protagonist.

Making Big Bra to Fill a Sub-Trope of Adaptational Ugliness presumes that smaller breasts are universally "uglier" than larger breasts. That's... specious.

I want to propose another short paragraph for the TLP Guidelines, since I noticed a discrete number of old proposals for the Administrivia template:

Don't use the TLP to propose new Administrivia pages. If you believe there is the need of another one, ask the mods, or take it to the Wiki Talk.

"If you want to create a new redirect, don't use the TLP. In fact, this is a major cause of Trope Launch Pad duplicates of existing tropes. For redirects, follow instead the instructions here. "

In BIONICLE, please move the quote and place it at the bottom of the picture. Not sure why its above the picture at the moment.

At Marvel Cinematic Universe, for Red Skull, please make it aka the Red Skull

EDIT: Also, for Punisher, please pothole "heroin smuggling" to MCU Criminals Terrorists Military Heroin Smuggling Conspiracy

Edited by ACW on Jan 18th 2020 at 3:14:27 PM

Atomic King Daidogan is making a ghost wick to BlindIdiotTranslation.

...

SoapBoxSadie ghost wicks:

• Doxie Vee
• Jketchum 31

....

You Tuber to YouTubers? The latter is gonna be launched tomorrow, as of this edit.

Move Main.TV Tropes Is Not Censored to Administrivia.TV Tropes Is Not Censored?

Secrets:

Move VideoGame.Cute Knight to VideoGame.Cute Knight 1 to preserve history?

And replace with this?

Edited by Malady on Jan 21st 2020 at 4:43:35 AM

Could you recreate the redirect at Administrivia.Content Policy towards The Content Policy and the 5P Circuit? It says it was cut due to being unused, but I don't see why that would be an issue. Even if it wasn't linked to anywhere in the wiki, it was still useful in the forums, ATT, private messages, etc.

If I want to refer someone to the content policy, it would be a lot easier to have that two-word redirect than to type "Administrivia/{{The Content Policy|andthe5pcircuit}}".

Edited by Zuxtron on Jan 18th 2020 at 7:04:35 AM

I thought I remembered the last time I looked at the entire page, there were some instances of YMMV and Trivia being referred to as tropes.

Also, I really don’t know the proper way of typing it: “Mis-used” or “Misused”?

On Television Is Trying to Kill Us, please remove the Draco in Leather Pants / Monster Fangirl (it now includes the Monster Fangirl entry) and Victim-Blaming entries (we're not supposed to include Useful Notes articles in a work's trope list).

At Criminal Minds, for Wyland, please change "of children" to "of boys"

Some rewrites for that page too (please also remove all spoilers and add !All spoilers are unmarked. You Have Been Warned!):

• Lucy, from the season finale "Supply and Demand", is the psychologically sadistic head of a Human Trafficking ring. She and her gang target stressed-out college students, with Lucy herself scouting the victims. She and her gang then kidnap the young men and women and pimp them out to various sexual deviants, staging live shows in which the victims are raped, tortured, and even killed, by her men and/or clients. At least once, she pretended to be a victim, gaining the trust of undercover agent Renee Matlin, before revealing herself as the leader of the ring. When Lucy discovers that Matlin is an undercover cop, Lucy proceeds to play a game of Russian Roulette with her, then has her savagely beaten, gloating the whole time. Interrupted by the police, Lucy manipulates Max, one of her associates, into being killed by them, planning to frame him for her crimes. She then pretends to be a victim, and when found out, tries to shoot Rossi, but is fatally shot by Morgan first.
• Ben "Cy" Bradstone, from "Proof", is a mentally handicapped man who uses Obfuscating Stupidity to lure women out of the public eye and into his shed where he rapes them and then stabs them to death. He first stabbed their eyes out, but later evolved to using sulfuric acid to burn away their senses, choosing the sense depending on how they react to him. He targets women who remind him of his sister-in-law, whom he attempted to molest when they were both teenagers. When his niece puts on the same homecoming dress her mother—said sister-in-law—wore, Cy kidnaps her and burns her hands. After his arrest, his brother Matt, demanding to know why Cy did this, who tells him that he has always hated Matt and was planning to deafen and then kill him one day.
• Clark Preston, from "A Thin Line", is a greedy, crooked real estate developer and one of the show's most infamous proxy killers. He hired criminals to commit crimes in neighborhoods so people would leave and he could buy up their property at a much lower price, with him not even caring about who gets hurt in the process. During one of these raids, the Mills family had the father and daughter killed and the mother raped and beaten, leaving her in a coma. He later manipulates and recruits the survivor of the family, Trevor, into his mayoral campaign by brainwashing him with racist ideology—which he doesn't even care about but uses it to try to get elected—and using him to help with his mayoral campaign. At Preston's behest, Trevor would launch home invasions and kill entire families of people, including young children and even a baby in one case, and then kill drugged black and Hispanic people with the family's gun and pin it on them in the hopes of supporting his plans.
• Alex Zorgen runs a Human Trafficking ring that has sold dozens of victims, mostly women, regardless of age, to serial killers and other criminals online, with said criminals killing them. In 1993, prior to creating this ring, he abducted a woman named Donna Mangold, repeatedly raping and torturing her for the next 22 years, with one of those rapes resulting in a son named Kyle. As the season progresses, Alex has Kyle stalk the BAU's newest member, Kate Callahan, by posing as an attractive high school senior online to gain their trust of her niece Meg, and her friend, who are both 14 years old. He sends Kyle and Donna and Kyle to kidnap them in the season finale "The Hunt", but Kyle only catches Meg, which results in Alex killing Kyle without any remorse, before selling Meg. When the BAU later arrests him and ask him where Meg's captor is keeping her, he refuses to cooperate and just taunts Kate about the things her captor is going to do to her.

Also, at Video Games: A to F, for Danmachi, please change the Mobile Phone Game pothole to Memoria Freese.

Edited by ACW on Jan 20th 2020 at 1:58:55 PM

I'd like to make some edits to Anatomically Impossible Sex, of all things. Aside from adding some other hard facts that stories get wrong, my main issue is that the "a virgin always has their hymen" exaggeration example wasn't elaborated on (I couldn't even tell if it meant it was exaggerated or not), and misconceptions about the hymen are so common in fiction that I feel it needs a clear explanation (that hopefully won't make people want to puke, if that's the reason this wasn't done earlier).

My proposed edits (all under "Exaggerations", all easy to find as they're already right next to each other):

• Excessive amounts of bodily fluid (a woman constantly gushing out at the bottom, not just people sweating): There's a limit to how much fluid the human body can produce before becoming dehydrated, which typically heralds the end of a love-making session in real life.
• A virgin always bleeds: A very common and very old myth in real life, and thus it's no surprise that it turns up in many works of fiction as well, so prevalent that faking it is a trope in its own right. The reality is that some women's hymens bleed during sex and some don't, sometimes even if it's not the woman's first time, which is all totally normal.
• All women are born with hymens, and a virgin will always still have theirs: This is one of the biggest misconceptions in all of erotic fanfiction. The hymen is not a piece of organic cling-wrap blocking the uterus. It is a thin layer of tissue inside the entrance to the vagina that is loosely donut-shaped like the rest of it, just happening to be susceptible to tearing and bleeding (which as stated above is not guaranteed), and being so close to the entrance means it can be torn by means other than love-making. Conventional sex and even pregnancy with an intact hymen is uncommon, but absolutely possible, so the state of the hymen is not a reliable indicator. And yes, it's rare-but-possible for a girl to be born without a hymen.

And here's a couple of things to add to the "Exaggerations" list:

• The woman feeling hot in her belly after the man ejaculates: This experience is different for everyone. Some women feel it and like it, some hate it or don't feel it at all. Naturally this variance is ignored in fiction.
• The vagina stretching to fit a huge penis: It's shocking but not dire to see the woman's abdomen visibly stretch a little from the girth (this is the same general area that grows to accommodate a baby, after all), but if the stretching from the dick alone approaches the realm of Balloon Belly, then it poses an immediate danger to the pelvis, leg joints, and internal organs.
• By the same token, a vagina not visibly stretching to fit a huge penis: Unless the guy's poor manhood is getting painfully crushed, this is simply not physically possible and is equivalent to thinking the dick plunges into a Pocket Dimension.

EDIT: Page edit done by nombretomado. Many thanks!

Edited by SLthePyro on Jan 21st 2020 at 2:47:17 PM