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The Hindsight tropes, Hilarious in Hindsight, Harsher in Hindsight, and Heartwarming in Hindsight, are among the most misused Audience Reaction tropes on this site. Many people don't understand that the tropes require more than just "This happened, so that happened", and end up adding examples which either lack connection or the substance that makes them funny/serious/not-so-funny/heartwarming. Some of them may be suited better for other tropes (ex: Life Imitates Art), while some may not belong on TV Tropes at all (such as ones involving politicians, due to Rule of Cautious Editing Judgment).

Please report any Hindsight example that you feel are questionable, and we'll analyze them to see if they are actually examples or not.

Remember that the Hindsight tropes are Audience Reactions. That means if an example under review discusses significant fan response pointing out the hindsight, the example can't be cut solely for being too tenuous for this thread.

    Common NOT in Hindsight examples 
  • Creator's character/portrayal dies in work and then creator dies in real life, unless their fictional death is closely similar to their real one (such as Billy Bob Joe portraying a character who dies from pancreatic cancer, then Billy Bob dies from pancreatic cancer himself)
  • Mundane word related to something terrible (such as "corona" or "Epstein") unless there's more to the connection (such as someone named "Corona" having the flu)
  • Creator appears in work then becomes more controversial later on.
  • A common event (such as a typical natural disaster) happens in work, then happens in real life (unless they are closely similar, such as the event happening to the same area in both reality and fiction around the same time) For once, not everything related to disease has to do with COVID-19, not everything related to racism and Police Brutality has to do with George Floyd and Black Lives Matter, and not everything related to sexual abuse has to do with #MeToo.
  • A common/generic concept was used in this work and then later reused in that work (too loose for a connection, unless the concept is so unique it's identified with the work)
  • Two actors appear together then do so in another work
  • Hindsight examples involving recent events, due to them often being shoehorns. Specifically:
    • COVID-19 examples, before 75% of the population has returned to normal
    • George Floyd/2020 Black Lives Matter examples, before protests have declined
  • Examples which fall guilty of Older Than They Think, such as "Make X Great Again" slogans. Aside from violating the ROCEJ, this slogan has been in use since the 1940s.
  • Characters using slurs which are treated as annoying at worst in the work, but is now harsher due to how severe the slur is made now. Discrimination has always existed with that slur. (May qualify for Values Dissonance if work is at least 20 years old.)

Note: As of January 2022, "Funny Aneurysm" Moment is no longer separate from Harsher in Hindsight.
  • The former redirects to the latter and all wicks to the former (with the exception of ones on archive pages and the YMMV Redirects index) must either be moved to the latter (if they're valid) or removed (if they're invalid).
  • The subpages for the former are still accessible from this page. After a subpage for "Funny Aneurysm" Moment has been completely cleaned up, turn it into a redirect to the Harsher in Hindsight subpage for the same medium to preserve inbounds.

Edited by Tabs on Jun 21st 2023 at 11:51:25 AM

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#1976: Nov 8th 2020 at 4:00:06 PM

[up]I was thinking the same.

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#1977: Nov 8th 2020 at 4:03:55 PM

From The Simpsons S4 E22 "Krusty Gets Kancelled". Lots of these seem weak, don't they?

  • "Funny Aneurysm" Moment:
    • Double Subversion. The Deleted Scene where Krusty is arrested by FBI agents for promoting his pornography-laden book while on-air in front of children? Twenty years on, and the allegations against British TV host Jimmy Savile (who was posthumously accused of around 200 sex offenses) and the fallout (the arrest of several other TV and Radio presenters on suspicion of sex offenses, such as children's entertainer and comedian Rolf Harris) makes this scene somewhat more difficult to swallow (not to mention the wave of sexual harassment and misconduct claims that derailed a lot of careers in 2017 into 2018 thanks to #TimesUp and #MeToo). It was never put in the actual episode (the scene was replaced with one where Krusty offers viewers a check for $40 if they watch his shownote  and the infamous "Worker and Parasite" sequence), but was put into the clip show episode "The Simpsons 138th Episode Spectacular", and has been confirmed by the crew members that it originally had been censored before airing.
    • Luke Perry nearly dying after Krusty’s act, as well as Krusty's Imagine Spot about destroying Luke Perry's face, is a lot less funny after Luke Perry's very early death from a stroke.
    • Johnny Carson assumes that Krusty has a lot of money in savings from his years in showbiz (to the point that he has been in the game longer than Carson has) and informs him to save his money this time after his comeback (only to receive a ruby-studded clown nose after he said it). Seeing the money woes that he endures due to his wasteful spending in later episodes "Homie the Clown" and especially "Bart the Fink" make this episode all the more painful.
  • Harsher in Hindsight: As mentioned underneath We Hardly Knew Ye in the "Trivia" tab, shortly after appearing in the episode with the Red Hot Chili Peppers, guitarist Arik Marshall was replaced by Dave Navarro...who went on to be a part of the band's least popular album and is considered a pretty divisive member due to this and his radically different guitar-playing style.
  • Hilarious in Hindsight:
    • Seeing the crazy old man's almost instantaneous rise to fame from doing very little aside from dropping his pants while singing and dancing is rather reminiscent of how popular many people have become in the 2000s and beyond through controversial, ridiculous or unassuming behavior (Kim Kardashian's sex tape, the Duggars' many children and Bhad Bhabie's "Cash Me Outside" to name a few).
    • In leu of Itchy and Scratchy, Krusy is forces to show Worker and Parasie, an incomprehensible Eastern European equivalent, the joke being that a Road Runner vs. Coyote cartoon from the former Soviet bloc would be too esoteric and symbolic to be funny to Americans. This was obviously before anyone in America, let alone the show's writers, had ever heard of Nu, Pogodi!, and actual Eastern European cartoon of that genre from the '70s which most Americans who've seen it will agree is significantly more coherent.
    • Ray J. Johnson actually would appear on the show many years later, and was described by the whole crew as an incredibly nice guy.

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#1978: Nov 8th 2020 at 4:16:23 PM

From The Otherworld

  • Hilarious in Hindsight: The villain of Industrial Magic, a vampire named Edward. The book was published a year before Twilight.

I'm certain that their are more then two characters who are vampires named Edward in fiction.

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fragglelover Since: Jun, 2012
#1979: Nov 8th 2020 at 4:25:35 PM

This is on Madagascar:

Harsher in Hindsight: A tamer example: "the wild" Marty's Arc Words. After one discovers that this was a pre-emptive ripoff of The Wild, it not only feels awkward, but kind of sleazy.

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#1980: Nov 8th 2020 at 4:37:49 PM

He just literally wants to go to the wild. It's not a phrase exclusive to this movie or anything. I know The Wild started production first, but "pre-emptive ripoff" just sounds ridiculous without that context.

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maxwellsilver Since: Sep, 2011
#1981: Nov 8th 2020 at 5:35:10 PM

[up][up][up][up] Wow, those are bad. I think it's safe to cut all of it.

maxwellsilver Since: Sep, 2011
#1982: Nov 8th 2020 at 5:40:49 PM

From The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen Comics:

  • Harsher in Hindsight:
    • In Century: 2009, Judi Dench's M from the James Bond films, who in this universe is Emma Peel, is made immortal. A few months later, she was killed off in Skyfall.
    • The Invisible Man being a sociopath and being more evil then his source material became a lot harsh by the time of The Invisible Man (2020)
  • Hilarious in Hindsight
    • Moore's Grand Finale for Century: 2009 involves an epic face-off between Harry Potter and Mary Poppins. Just a few months after he wrote that scene (and almost exactly a month after the comic hit the stands) a battle between Voldemort and a swarm of Mary Poppinses turned out to be part of the Opening Ceremony of the 2012 Olympic Games.
    • Among many other tidbits, Century: 2009 manages to tie James Bond and The Avengers (1960s) together into one universe with the revelation that Judi Dench's M in the later Bond films is actually an aging Emma Peel. Though we never get to find out M's true identity in the films, Skyfall actually did turn out to include a brief moment where Kincade, Bond's old groundskeeper, addresses her as "Emma" (presumably because he misheard "M" as "Em").
    • Century: 2009 includes a brief cameo from "seasoned fixer Malcolm Tucker" on a television screen, in the same issue that includes several background cameos from The Doctor. Fast-forward to 2013: Malcolm Tucker is now the Twelfth Doctor.
    • A 2005 episode of Extras featuring Daniel Radcliffe mercilessly hitting on Dame Diana Rigg suddenly became Hilarious in Hindsight when ' featured Emma Peel leading the fight to take down a deranged Harry Potter. Maybe she wanted revenge on him for flinging that condom at her head?
    • The final scene of Century: 2009 (and the end of the comic, at least until Tempest) is of Quatermain's grave in Africa, just like the movie.
    • Similarly, though the movie had "the Fantom" (a villain loosely based on Erik from The Phantom of the Opera and Fantomas) the comics did finally incorporate Phantom of the Opera into the plot of The Black Dossier. According to one of the supplementary stories, the League had their final face-off with France's "Les Hommes Mystérieux" at the Paris Opera, where they tried to stop their plot to plant explosives in the Phantom's old lair. The other half, Fantomas, being one of the French team members. Fantomas even detonates an explosion in the Phantom's lair, which was something Erik himself threatened to do in the book.
    • About thirteen years after Alan Moore made Sherlock Holmes' older brother "M" in the first volume of League, the original M's grandson became Sherlock Holmes in Elementary.
    • Alan Moore has long been well-known for practicing ceremonial magic and being an avid student of occultism and the mystic arts, and he (in)famously claimed in 2003 that he worships Glycon, a Roman snake god that was once the center of an ancient pagan cult. In 2011, he attracted a bit of controversy for portraying Harry Potter as a thoroughly unsympathetic Antichrist figure who's also supposedly the epitome of everything wrong with the 21st century. In other words: Moore is an occultist who talks to snakes and has an intense personal hatred of Harry Potter. Voldemort? Is that you...?
    • After all those years of decrying fantasy stories as inherently Satanist, the most well known target, old Potter himself, is literally the Antichrist.

Film:

  • Harsher in Hindsight: Quartermain's death becomes this following the passing of Sean Connery. More so when it was originally intended for Quartermain to rise from his grave.
  • Hilarious in Hindsight:
    • Richard Roxburgh would also go on to play Dracula in Van Helsing a year later, which also featured a Mr. Hyde who was depicted as a Hulk Expy. He also played Sherlock Holmes in a 2002 television adaptation of The Hound of the Baskervilles.
    • When reviewing the 1994 live-action film The Jungle Book, Roger Ebert talked about the In Name Only premise and wondered "What's next? Tom Sawyer with a car chase and a shoot-out?"
    • The team of this comic-book film consists of:
      • Nemo: A man with an unusual beard, untold riches, and access to advanced technology that no one else can duplicate.
      • Quatermain: A legendary old hero in an era that is not his own, who lost someone close to him while working for his government.
      • Mina: A beautiful red-haired woman with a traumatic past who dresses largely in black and is much more dangerous than she appears.
      • Jekyll: A mild-mannered doctor who, at times, transforms into his large, super-strong and ferocious alter ego.
      • An attack on the heroes' cool transport by the pretty boy bad guy and his inside knowledge, and he's working for an even more dangerous foe.
      • And they're all working at the behest of a mysterious government figure. The only ones that don't match are Thor and Hawkeye note , but other than that, one almost expects Quatermain to yell "League, assemble!"

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#1983: Nov 8th 2020 at 5:49:49 PM

Those look, on general, pretty bad. I think The Avengers stuff about the film can probably be transplanted to one of our JFF pages that I can't remember the name for, but most of that can probably be cut.

...Though as someone who considers Moore a Fallen Creator, the bit about him being Lord Voldemort did make me laugh pretty hard.

maxwellsilver Since: Sep, 2011
#1984: Nov 8th 2020 at 5:53:27 PM

From The Simpsons S13 E16: "Weekend at Burnsies'":

  • "Funny Aneurysm" Moment: For a while, When approached about smoking marijuana, Homer notes that the marijuana he has is medicinal, then adds that he could just walk up to the President and blow smoke in "his stupid monkey face" and he'd just be sitting there groovin' on it. note  The line came off as racist with a black man as President (and "monkey," for the sheltered, is a racist slur towards African-Americans) — one who did smoke marijuana in his college days. Though the line is less accidental as now Donald Trump has taken office (though whether or not the line still applies to Trump is debatable and won't be discussed here).

Only entry on the page. The note states it was a reference to Bush, so it seems like it's specifically looking for a controversy.

I also love how the last line (which I deleted years ago, but got added back) discusses Trump, then says that's not allowed (interesting they made a pothole, but used the article's exact title).

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#1985: Nov 8th 2020 at 6:00:10 PM

[up][up] Surprisingly Similar Characters?

[up] There's a few Simpsons examples relating to calling the president a monkey that are now racist because the president is black and I think anything with that kind of logic can go. It'd be racist if they called the president who presided from 2008-2016 a monkey, but this is clearly dated to the show's airdate.

Edited by mightymewtron on Nov 8th 2020 at 9:02:03 AM

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Coolnut Since: Jan, 2001
#1986: Nov 8th 2020 at 6:03:18 PM

[up][up] Nuke it. Too subjective and too hot-button.

Edited by Coolnut on Nov 8th 2020 at 9:04:59 AM

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#1987: Nov 8th 2020 at 6:03:55 PM

[up] I can take care of it.

EDIT: Done. Also added a meme that came from the episode.

Edited by ImperialMajestyXO on Nov 8th 2020 at 6:09:10 AM

fragglelover Since: Jun, 2012
#1988: Nov 8th 2020 at 7:47:28 PM

This is on The Emperor's New Groove under Hilarious in Hindsight:

  • In one scene, Chicha, Pacha's wife, harshly criticizes Kuzco for supposdely not attending his appointment woth Pacha (which was actually a lie Pacha yold to avoid telling them that he'll destroy the village to create a summer house). 20 years later, Chicha's voice actress, Wendue Malick, would go on to star in Disney's The Owl House as the voice of Eda, a witch who a also wants to give her world's emperor "a piece of [her] mind", so to speak.

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#1989: Nov 8th 2020 at 8:43:34 PM

There's like, at least two hoops you need to jump through to find the slightest connection there. Cut it.

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WoodKnapp94 Since: May, 2020
#1990: Nov 8th 2020 at 8:47:15 PM

Well, since everyone else has posted in this thread today..

FunnyAneurysmMoment.FamilyGuy

  • A cutaway referencing how [adult swim] keeps the show's funnier jokes intact in the style of its bumps in "Big Man on Hippocampus" will fall under this in fall 2021, as Turner Broadcasting will lose the cable rights to air the first 15 seasons of the show and move to FXX and Freeform, which use the versions aired on Fox instead of what is on DVD.

Would it count as an aneurysm if it hasn't even happened yet?

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#1991: Nov 8th 2020 at 8:50:20 PM

No Recent Examples, Please! says it needs to wait until the event is already done, which probably means Family Guy needs to officially be taken off [adult swim] before the entry is valid.

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#1992: Nov 10th 2020 at 5:01:47 AM

Would this proposed entry for YMMV.Anna Akana fit any of the tropes?

  • In "How 2020 Ends", the Anna representing November cries that Donald Trump got re-elected. Once November actually rolled around, he ended up losing the Election to Joe Biden.

Edited by dsneybuf on Nov 10th 2020 at 7:02:01 AM

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#1994: Nov 10th 2020 at 6:08:47 AM

Could maybe fit another trope though like Dewey Defeats Truman or something?

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#1996: Nov 10th 2020 at 6:46:13 AM

[up] Nope, that's NRLEP for being impossible.

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#1997: Nov 10th 2020 at 7:08:54 AM

[up] But the video in question is a fictional work. By NRLEP it means real life getting real life events wrong is impossible or something like that.

EDIT: On second thought, this might also fit The Great Politics Mess Up.

Edited by mightymewtron on Nov 10th 2020 at 10:34:57 AM

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#1999: Nov 10th 2020 at 9:10:29 AM

Tropes Needing TRS?

EDIT: Added with a link to these posts.

Edited by mightymewtron on Nov 10th 2020 at 12:43:40 PM

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#2000: Nov 10th 2020 at 9:38:07 AM

The Great Politics Mess Up is confusing, since the image, the quote, and most of the description make it seem like it’s specifically about the fall of the USAR... except that the end of the description and the laconic say that it isn’t. However, the difference between the two seems to be that Dewey Defeats Truman is specifically about future historical events that cant or don’t actually happen in reality, while The Great Politics Mess Up seems to be about just the existence of political entities in works set in times where said political entity no longer exists in reality.

Edited by jandn2014 on Nov 10th 2020 at 12:42:13 PM

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