These were theories formed either during or immediately before the Best Wishes Series which were either subsequently confirmed or jossed, or are just too controversial to be addressed. Please do not add to these theories.
If you have any new theories relating to characters from this arc, put them here.
Spoilers Off for stuff in the Anime up to the end of this saga; items in other adaptations or series will keep their spoilers.
Confirmed Guesses
- I support this idea.
- Confirmed! "Episode N" is the arc following the Unova League.
- N technically appears after the League, though.
- Close! N will apparently make his first appearance in either episode 108 or episode 109... depending on if he shows up at the end of the Unova League or not.
- Semi-confirmed. Team Plasma are getting their own story arc, though it's still technically part of Season 2 of Best Wishes.
- Well, to have an Enemy Mine, you'd have to have more than just a misunderstanding. I'd say it's more like N would make a Heel–Face Turn after fighting Ash for about 20 or so episodes and would form Neo Plasma then.
- Confirmed, By the way.
- With the new ending song, it shows this might be confirmed. The two are even paired together!
- Yep.
- Confirmed: Alder was his idol.
- To continue from this guess, this troper thinks that Trip has abusive parents. This stems from a few hints given in his appearance.
- He gets mad at Iris when he's called a "kid" or being "childish". This can be interpreted as his parents telling him that being a trainer is a childish dream.
- Adding on and may come off as farfetched but the way he acts during the Donamite arc comes off as sexist as he underestimates Bianca when she's chosen as his opponent and then looks down on Iris and Burgundy's match when he was taking pictures of them. It comes back to bite him when he loses to Bianca and when he leaves, you notice that Burgundy and Georgia are making fun of him for being a "poor sport" (He wasn't, he was actually depressed from losing. If Trip looks down on women (and Ash), then that might reflect on his relationship with his mother and how he sees her. If his mom turns out to be an Abusive or overbearing parent (or both), it could explain his attitude toward women as dismissive... but it also applies to guys as well who are trying to talk to him.
- Trip tells Ash he doesn't have time to wait around in Castelia City when it would only take a day to get the Venipede situation under control. This could mean that he wasn't supposed to leave on his journey and staying in one place could result in his parents finding and dragging him back home. This again applies to BW042 when he leaves the tournament after losing instead of staying around to watch the outcome.
- In BW034, Trip is shown as a child to adore Pokemon and the Champion Alder. You notice that his parents aren't around when he tells Alder that he's going to be a trainer. He's also shown to be a Cheerful Child as a kid. Alder tells him he'll be waiting for him to grow up and be a trainer. At the start of the series, he's no longer smiling like he was in the past. Something tells this troper that his parents didn't take him becoming a trainer well and he had to take extremes in order to become one like running away from home but the result made him come out as cynical.
- To add to this portion, in BW054, Alder is shown to not remember who Trip is and constantly forgets his name. While he forgets Ash's name too, it's different with Trip who still remembers the promise and it implies that Alder forgot his promise to Trip. (To be fair, Trip was just another random kid in a crowd of people and Alder just happened to talk to him.) So Trip's minor breakdown midway in the episode comes off as his only person he idolized and probably encouraged him to become a Pokemon Trainer is shown to be a lazy buffoon that can't remember his promise or take him seriously. In other words, his ideal version of Alder is shattered right there when he leaves and he leaves before finding out there is more than meets the eye.
- His camera. He takes pictures of everything whenever he appears in an episode. He tells Ash he's recording his journey, but maybe he's doing that because he's scared that if he's caught by his parents, he won't be able to continue his journey anymore and is keeping his camera to remember his journey by.
- Finally, one of the themes in Pokemon Black and White is how the parents are involved with the children of the series and how they affect them. Bianca for example has an overprotective dad that would not let her go on her journey. She almost was dragged back home but Elisa intervened. There's also N who has his father Ghetsis. Just knowing what Ghetsis did shows how bad a parent can affect their child. Since some themes from Black and White are sliding into the anime, it wouldn't be a surprise if Trip's parents are mentally abusive of him that lead him to be reserved and keeps everything to himself instead of opening up to Ash and co when they have tried to befriend him.
- (another troper) And maybe Trip's parents will finally find him at the Unova League, just after he loses to Ash. It would be either a heartwarming, or a tearjerker.
- He gets mad at Iris when he's called a "kid" or being "childish". This can be interpreted as his parents telling him that being a trainer is a childish dream.
- Whatever the case, I definitely see him becoming a Jerk with a Heart of Gold. Maybe he could become nicer, in a way that reflects Cheren.
- Mind you, Trip is already proven to be a Jerkass, so it would be more of a case of Defrosting Ice King then actually remaining as one.
- The part about parental issues was Jossed, but the rest of this was pretty much correct.
- This is an obvious one and the audience has to wait for a month until the Subway Boss battles to confirm if Meowth was fired or not but it's obvious from the get go that he's lying and that those who really think he pulled a Heel–Face Turn are Genre Blind.
- Original poster here. So... nothing major in today's episode, but the episode airing on September 8 seems to be the most likely of the next few to confirm this.
- OP again, posting on September 9. While yesterday's episode didn't confirm anything, Meowth's apparently not appearing in the September 22 episode featuring Elesa. Here are the possibilities:
- Meowth reveals he wasn't fired in next week's two-parter, rejoins Jessie and James, and doesn't appear similar to how the Lenora episodes didn't have TR.
- Meowth really was fired, and he is Put on a Bus. While he does appear in the current ending song, it's about time for the ending to change so we can't rule this out.
- Meowth wasn't fired, and is caught by one of the main cast. Given the way Pokémon ownership works in the anime, Meowth would essentially turn into a Rocket-aligned version of Psyduck, coming out of his Poké Ball and screwing over Ash & co.
- Meowth was fired, is caught by one of the main cast, and completes his Heel–Face Turn, simply not being used in the first Elesa episode. Unlikely due to Status Quo Is God, but it would be a fitting conclusion to fourteen and a half years of losing to Ash. If you can't beat him, join him.
- This is the troper who replied after the suggestion. It has been confirmed that Meowth pulled a Fake Defector meaning that he wasn't fired in the first place and only joined Ash and the group to let their guard down. Again, people who didn't see this coming are Genre Blind.
- OP here. It took a month, but I Knew It!.
- First? Don't you mean third? Two of Ash's other pokemon have already evolved once. They are Pidove, now Tranquill, and Sewaddle, now Swadloon.
- Original troper and I'm referring to the main starter trio as there is constant debate on which one will evolve first.
- A Spoiler Opening confirms this.
- Original troper who posted this. All she can say is I Knew It!.
- I Knew It!. Ash Krokorok evolved when battling Iris' Dragonite.
- Half-Confirmed: Iris does get a Dragonite and it develops a rivalry with Ash's Charizard in Best Wishes 2: Episode N.
- Confirmed for Iris, Unresolved for Cilan.
The Not-Mild Unprovable and outright Jossed theories of Best Wishes
Characters
- If they want to redeem themselves for making that God-Mode Sue, that's the perfect way to do it
- Tobias doesn't seem that vindictive.....
- He's a high-ranking operative, and TR probably have stolen a few legends in their time
- He's voiced by DAN GREEN!
Meanwhile, the real Ash (who has steadily grown as a trainer from the incompetent buffoon he was starting out to a more tactically-minded veteran who can defeat two legendary Pokemon in the same battle and would certainly never lose to a rookie trainer or make a Pokemon storage exchange in the middle of a gym battle) is catching and training Pokemon somewhere else, blissfully unaware that he has a sycophantic fan or that Team Rocket is wreaking havoc in the Unova region.
- Question: How will he fool Dawn, one of true!Ash's most recent companions?
- I think this is one is "Jossed". Between Ash's appeal and Dawn's appeal in the Wallace Cup, they did a high five. When they meet again in Cythina's villa, they did the same thing: a high-five. If this was another Ash/Satoshi, he would be confused by Dawn's actions.
- Not so, as all of Ash's past accomplishments and Pokemon still exist; the first episode of Best Wishes shows off a lot of his trophies and awards in his room and around his house. Also about Team Rocket; all evidence is to show that Giovanni is using the trio specifically because Ash always beats them, and hopes they'll lure out Team Plasma who will get beat by Ash, so Giovanni can swoop in and invade later.
- Moved it to the Anime page. You're welcome. Also, the Trio was recommended by Giovanni's secretary. While the claim was that it was due to the events in Sinnoh, this claim is not proven. (Meaning the secretary could be a Time Traveler. I mean, there's a WMG in the Johto games section that the Time Machine might have created Missingno and a sundering was necessary...)
- And generally Jossed by Dawn.
- This seemed to be the general direction early BW was taking until the creators themselves decided to Joss it.
- Why would they need him when they have a butler?
- With a matching green bowtie?
- Technically a waiter, but okay.
- With a matching green bowtie?
- While the sentiment is there, the theory itself is Jossed.
- Assuming it follows from the games, Iris' Axew is female (unless the Nintendo Event version is fully indicative). Shaga's is male. That makes her, in this Guess, the Distaff Counterpart to Brock's Croagunk.
- Iris' Axew has been confirmed a male so Jossed.
- Fully Jossed. Hilda doesn't even exist in the anime. Bianca exists, however, and could end up being shipped if both ever meet in the series due to their personalities. Just make sure Bianca doesn't accidentally push Brock into a hard rock.
Perhaps Iris/Reshiram/Kyurem was disguised as a human girl incognito, and discovered that she preferred being a human to a Legendary Pokemon, and is hiding from her responsibilities. She could either be the original Reshiram/Kyurem, or a descendant born when the original perished.
- We have seen most of her (and Axew's) back story.
- Jossed. Reshiram is shown as a separate entity from Iris in Episode N, and M15 shows likewise for Kyurem.
- I wonder what that says about Luke's Zorua imitating Iris' rival Georgia a lot during the Don George Tourney. Granted, Iris used the double often to make fun of the genuine article, but she never outright requested the doppelganger.
- Given Kyurem already had a role in [1], this seems unlikely. Especially since an episode with Vanilluxe seems to have done that.
- Jossed on the Exact Words, she only left the party when she and Ash had an argument enroute to Johto; they had already left Unova by that point. She also returned in that same episode.
- It would explain why he was able to shrug off multiple Ice-type attacks from Georgia's Beartic and Dawn's Mamoswine despite having a double weakness (since he's also part Flying-type) to Ice.
In one episode about the fishing contest it was downright creepy how he kept insisting that there was no longer a need for the fishing tournament to continue if he caught the biggest Basulin in the lake. Despite Team Rocket being badass in this episode, Jessie ACTUALLY looked worried at how persistent Cilan was and eventually told him to wait until the tournament was over to give other people a chance. It was almost like Cilan was going Higurashi on her.
And then there was the time when he got pissed off at Ash and Iris FOR DROPPING A LEAF INTO HIS POT and then telling them that it was there fault for messing up lunch. Of course, his sanity goes back to normal after Iris just pulls out an apple and says "We'll just look for more food." Ash apologizes unlike Iris but the audience sees Cilan's instability at this point. And at the end of the episode, he was pissed that Ash and Iris never came back and he's all "It's waiting in vein time..."
Cilan favors the villain role to the point that Iris thinks that's creepy. Cilan clearly states that the villain makes the plot...but if you take into account that he might be the Shadow Triad, he might be foreshadowing being a member. There's also the fact when Cilan tells Luke to keep filming, he decides to stop being the villain and to play the Anti-Hero...and that might foreshadow him changing to Ash and Iris' side. He also calls Iris his princess in this episode. True they were only acting but Cilan was adamant about Iris being the princess at the end.
During the Don George Battle arc, what Burgundy said about him originally in episode 19 is starting to show. Cilan outright thinks she's annoying which given his personality, annoying doesn't seem to be in his vocabulary. And similar to what he did to Burgundy in battle, he owns Trip in battle but Trip isn't like Paul and doesn't blame his Pokemon. He just tells Cilan he's frustrated but he'll use this loss to get stronger. And then come another episode where he's constantly taunting his opponent Luke...to be fair, he's trying to give Luke some encouragement given his situation with battling. Additionally, he planned on clearly insulting Burgundy when she asked for a Connoisseur battle but he noticed Luke filming the camera when apparently no one in the room noticed but him (which shows that he's very observant and as a member of the Shadow Triad, you have to be aware of your surrounding) and decides to take her up to the challenge, which surprised her given that Burgundy thought she was certain he was going to reject her. No one else seems to notice the switch in Cilan's personality but her.
Then comes BW069-70 concerning Skyla's appearance. Skyla using "air battles" to judge her opponent so she could have time to do her own thing angers Ash but Cilan ends up exploding from this. This can easily be explained when you learn about Team Plasma's motives. The honest members of Team Plasma seriously think that humans abuse their Pokemon and that said Pokemon need to be free from trainers that hurt them. Given that Skyla is a gym leader like him but neglects her duty as a gym leader by not allowing her Pokemon to battle or giving them the time of day, Cilan might have convinced himself that Team Plasma was right about most gym leaders abusing their power and making their Pokemon suffer. He might have been angry not because of the Air Battles but because of her arrogance that shows that she doesn't care about her Pokemon and the trainers that want to battle her. It shows when she taunts him after knocking out his Crustle and Cilan almost crushing his Pokeball in his hand. When he loses to her, he ends up in a minor Heroic BSoD not only because he lost but because as a member of the Shadow Triad, he might have let an "evil" trainer like Skyla get away with it. Naturally, he was cheering for Ash to win and even though he tells Skyla that he's happy that she sees things Ash's way, it doesn't change the fact that he was furious in the last episode. The fact the anger disappeared too suddenly implies craziness.
- Supporting point: While one would think that having Skyla find a way to determine the outcome of a battle without subjecting a Pokemon to harm would be a good thing from Plasma's POV, one should recall how N gave a Humiliation Conga to White in Pokémon Adventures. And that Animal Wrongs Groups, like other extremist groups, are often contradictory as events serve their agenda.
Somehow, the idea of him being a nice guy is shattered if you put this into perspective.
Which leads to...
- Alternatively, Cilan will pull a Heel–Face Turn due to traveling with Ash and Iris for so long and will convince his brothers to leave Team Plasma.
- That's going to be hard, considering their leader is Ghetsis Harmonia.
- Hey, he could be lucky if someone actually tries to defend him like say Iris who would say something along the line of, "I know the real Cilan and he's definitely not a member of Team Plasma!" Cue heartwarming and possibly Love Redeems without thinking of the consequences despite knowing what type of person Ghetsis is.
- Somebody from The Old Country is coming over around the time of Ash's 8th badge (Dawn). Perhaps the Anime is following in the Game's lead in "shaking things up" [by changing, among other things, the gender balance of the party.
- Pokémon Black 2 and White 2 proves this to be Jossed. If that wasn't enough, Episode N (featuring Team Plasma) lacks the Shadow Triad, and they are therefore not shown as them.
- Fits in with the Shadow Triad WMGs Considering who that Trio directly reports to.
- Jossed. Cilan and Brock actually TEAM UP in a special episode.
- Jossed in the episode they first appeared in. They got blasted off for being jerkass ducks.
- As of BW072, the original troper can say Jossed.
- Note that these above were all Grass-Types.
- Jossed, although his Roggenrola evolved during the gym battle.
- Jossed by BW077 in which Ash's Tepig finally evolves into Pignite.
- Jossed, 8th Gym Leader in animé is Roxie
- Possible, and epic, but seems to be Jossed by the clips showing it as a Krookodile still have it's glasses on it. Of course, it could just get another pair after evolving.
- More like if it evolves...
- Ash Ketchum
- Accelgor/Escavaliar, given the future episode being about a link trade between the two
- Heatmor. Note that Ash has gotten a second Pokemon of his starter type(Oshawott-Palpitoad, Snivy-Leavanny) except for Tepig. Heatmor can fit this role
- Onix. He says in the preview that he wants to capture one, and one of them happens to be Shiny.
- PLEASE let him catch that Meloetta...
- Iris
- Deino. She is a dragon type trainer, and when Axew evolves, someone will need to replace his spot.
- Cilan
- Deerling. He is a grass type trainer.
- Durant. If Ash gets Heatmor, it would be funny for him to get Heatmor's natural enemy.
- James
- Maractus. It's a staple for him to get grass types which hurt him.
- Jessie
- Tynamo. It will eventually evolve into Eeletrik, which fits Jessie's use of serpent Pokemon. Plus it combines Irony with Took a Level in Badass.
- Bianca
- One of her Pokemon from the game. I'd go with Musharna
- Female Frillish. We already have a male Frillish, so it'd be nice to see a female example.
- Trip
- Larvesta. Alder is his hero.
- Burgundy
- Pokemon that counter/rival Cilan. For example:
- Gothitele to parallel Stunfisk. One is Rule 34 bait, the other is Rule 34 deterrent.
- A Pansear to counter Pansage
- Pokemon that counter/rival Cilan. For example:
- Georgia
- Cryogonal, just to piss off Iris.
- Luke
- Klink. Gear, machinery...
All of these are Jossed, by the way. Though, Georgia did have a Vanilluxe as of BW083.
- Note the word "if"...
- Could easily be another Pokémon breaking it. It was Gible who destroyed Barry's bike.
- And... The Camera never breaks on-camera.
- Cilan did have a Blue with Shock moment when Iris called him childish, but that's as far as it got. Instead, the writers had Iris and Ash fighting in a Filler Ep.
- Nope. At least, not on camera,,,
- And Giovanni will be very glad to see Team Plasma destroyed.
- (Later Theory): They saved Giovanni's life during the Meloetta fiasco, and the opening for Season two depicts them fighting Team Plasma. Either of these could net them a promotion at some point.
- Doesn't seem Confirmed, but they seem to be in Good Standing with Giovanni at least.
Comrades from another Continent
- Let's hope so, I'd pay to see that.
- But in order to prevent everyone from chasing after him, he'll have to either A) Switch out Croagunk for a Gen V Pokemon that knows the same move, or B) Hang around Lacunosa Town, Undella Town, and Black City/White Forest.
- He did show up in Best Wishes. However, only on a special episode with Cilan and not in the Unova region. Alder and Miles would get alone with him.
- Misty: Luvdisc/Dewgong, Starmie, Gyarados, Corsola, Azumarill, Politoed.
- Forrest: Steelix, Crobat, Golem, Ludicolo, Rhyperior, Swampert.
- Norman: Slaking, Blissey, Linoone, Spinda, Exploud, Zangoose. Would've given him Snorlax, but remembered May has Munchlax.
- Okay, who changed the title of this?
- Thus setting them up to be the new punching bags of the anime.
- Jossed. It would be funny if Botch and Steven... errr... Butch and Stephan duked it out.
- No it's not, Bitch.
- Sadly, Casualty and Bob didn't make an appearance, even during the Forces of Nature arc(s).
Now that they both exist, they'll fuse, and become the true ultimate Pokemon, with a Base Stat Total of 800: 150 in HP, and 130 in everything else, which they will do at the end of the 16th movie.
Plots
I think it went down like this; Sometime during the episodes when the events that got them postponed were going on, a Pokemon's life was in danger. Ash goes to save it, but he can't... unless it's in a Pokeball. He convinces it to go along with this with the intention to release it when it's safe, but it likes him enough that by the time he can get the chance, it decides to stay with him.
The reason that other episode was postponed as well was because he sent out that Pokemon during that episode and they didn't want to ruin the surprise.
If this guess is right, than I'd further suggest it might be the Venipede he saved from the pipe. It seemed to really like Ash, as much as some of his own Pokemon.
- Makes sense
- Jossed, it was never shown and the series has moved to Kalos.
- Team Plasma are in the Pokemon Black 2 and White 2 games. (As shown in the promotion anime). So if they don't show up, it wont be because the show is following the game story arc.
- Jossed, thankfully.
First N had an abusive father who he still voluntarily works with for most of Pokémon Black and White. Ergo N probably has some pretty strange ideas on how people are supposed to treat kids. So if Ash and friends mess with Team Plasma's plans he might not be as nice to them as he was to the player character in the games. Since they can't explain all that the first time N shows up that would make him appear somewhat unsympathetic, and all the media N has been in so far seems to be working to make him as sympathetic as possible.
Second, Ash and friends always doing everything is getting a bit annoying. The anime could use some Colonel Makepeace types, or references to other people doing important things that Ash had nothing to do with. Things like redeeming N.
Third, a lot of people really want to know what happened to N, and having the person who got him to leave Team Plasma move to another region and run into N there would just be wierd.
- Nope.
- These are so depressing WMG ones...this troper thinks we should be more optimistic and pray that he'll show up soon and that the writers are hiding all information away just to surprise the audience when he does appear...
- Jossed, he had his own arc.
- Or alternatively, Kappei Yamaguchi, for the sake of Death Note jokes.
- Jossed. He's voiced by Yūichi Nakamura.
- Sadly, no...
- COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY JOSSED. Hilbert and Hilda are nowhere to be seen in the anime: N joins Ash's part for the arc instead. (And Hilda as Tomboy to Iris' Girly Girl makes no sense since Iris is far from a Girly Girl as you can get.) And while Ghetsis is the Big Bad, not only does he do less in comparison to his Dragon-in-Chief Colress, but he does pretty much no horrific deeds to speak of (the only thing he actually does at all is summon Reshiram), and his worst actions are only alluded to in N's backstory episode while still being, if anything, more offscreen then in the games. Ghetsis in the anime doesn't even come close to CM status. Now his Pokémon Adventures incarnation, on the other hand, depending on where the BW2 arc takes him, that one might have a chance.
- Given how N is being portrayed, I'd bank on Ash, N, and Reshiram batting against Ghetsis and the Zekryurem fusion.
- And both were a miss...
- Seems to be more of a straight-up B2/W2, though N is mistrustful of our heroes at first.
- I don't know, Giovanni wasn't exactly a bed of roses to Silver.
- He's still a saint compared to Ghetsis. It's more Parental Neglect. Plus Silver was dickish even before this.
- Presuming we actually see Ghetsis.
- Death is too good for him. Ghetsis will suffer a Fate Worse than Death, or And I Must Scream. Courtesy of Kyurem.
- (Original Poster of WMG) Or Arceus could deal with him. Mummification via Cofagrigus also works. Bonus points if that Cofagrigus evolved from James' Yamask.
- That would be a Karmic Transformation: after being mummified, Ghetsis would become a Yamask. Thus allowing an extra storyline with him, just in case we need it.
- (Again, Original Poster) Being turned into a Pokemon is a nice Ironic Hell for Ghetsis...yeah, I like this idea!
- To make it even sweeter, that Yamask will end up in N's care. Being reduced to an impotent Yamask, completely dependent on the child he's manipulated...nothing could be a greater Hell for him...
- (Yet again, Original Poster) If that does happen, James better get a Bond One-Liner when Ghetsis is mummified.
- (Original Poster of WMG) Or Arceus could deal with him. Mummification via Cofagrigus also works. Bonus points if that Cofagrigus evolved from James' Yamask.
- Again, this presumes that Team Plasma is or was active in Unova during or prior to Ash's tenure there. Given that we haven't seen Plasma in the Anime yet, Ghetsis' Anime existance is still not guaranteed.
- He could appear in the next series.
- Nope, he was arrested.
- Jossed.
- I thought that the Victini movies were like that because Reshiram and Zekrom were version exclusives. None of the legendaries on the upcoming movie are version exclusives, making this theory unlikely, unless they try to have continuity with the Victini movies, in which case the likelihood of this theory being true dramatically increases.
- Technically true due to Fake-Out Opening and Meowth's Mandatory Line.
- M15 already has Kyurem, sans Volcarona. And with Generation VI on the horizon, it's safe to say this is Jossed.
- Assuming the guy from Zoroark's movie wasn't supposed to be Hilbert's counterpart, he and Hilda will probably show up challenging the battle subway.
- Assuming the guy from Zoroark's movie was supposed to be Hilbert's counterpart, Hilda will get a scene against N.
- Cheren will have a scene battling Bianca.
- Leaf will have a scene battling Wally.
- Wes will battle Michael.
- Sadly, true. Oh, so true...
- Alternatively, he'll be in the top 2. And lose to N, setting up the Team Plasma arc.
- Jossed. But that's to be expected.
- Jossed. Ash doesn't even get to the top 2, and N doesn't show up at the league. So no "Plasma strikes the league" plot.
- Jossed.
- Jossed on the first part: Ash doesn't win the league (as is the norm). No word on the supposed experiment aspect, though given that Iris and Cilan were swapped out for Kalos people. That part may be considered a "success". The trend continues with Sun and Moon, as well as Journeys as a trend.
- Jossed. The ideas, however carried on to the XY series, where they heroes fight the Big Bad after the tournament.
This way it would stick to the games AND give Ash a legitimate reason to go to a new region, instead of winning the League and staying in Unova as the new champion. WITHOUT stupid defeats by some random -sons and cheating Devils ex Machina.
Something else? Yes, add Team Rocket invasion to the mix!And, if we're going to be absolutely unrealistic, let Ash EVACUATE from the region because of the invasion! MWAHAHAHA!
- Or Ash gets second place, because he lost to N. With the championship, N will be able to summon Reshiram/Zekrom/both.
- All this and more are Jossed. Ash loses. AS USUAL.
- Or he'll have a Break the Haughty/Break the Cutie (depending on the on WMG on whether or not he was told thing and misinterpreted it or he was seriously told that and then told something else) that will make him realize much sooner that he was wrong.
- Nope, it was the Eevee guy, Virgil. But Trip did lose to Alder as his "reward" for winning the Junior Cup.
Crying Mightyenna! Other Jossed Endtime prophesies!
- Different troper. So we got 49 and 50 (the two parter) 51 being Elesa vs. Bianca, 52 will be Ash vs. Elesa, 53 being Subway Bosses vs. Ash and Cilan and 54 is implied to be the Pokemon Musical. I think you got the episodes wrong if you're using Bulbapedia as the episode reference.
- Both of us have been disproved, apparently. 52 is going to be Ash vs. Alder. I'm still holding out for the season finale involving N and/or Team Plasma, though.
- You mean episode 54 right?
- Unless you're counting the unaired Team Plasma two-parter, it's 52. The two-parter was 47-48, Bianca vs. Elesa was 49, Ash vs. Elesa will be 50, and Ash and Cilan vs. the Subway Bosses will be 51.
- Yeah, this troper doesn't like how Bulbapedia moved all the episodes up making it very hard to find the episode online because people are getting it mixed up.
Iris left a Fraxure that refuses to evolve in Drayden's care. Her Axew wants to evolve but for some reason is unable to. After An Aesop about the two Dragon's differing opinions Axew will warp into a Haxorus when Ash has Iris in a pinch...but still lose so Ash can go on to the league. N won't show up, so the final gym will be a shout out to him. Ash will become a champion. Then become a hobo in Generation Six.
- Jossed: In the XY season he's in the Kalos region, still catching Pokemon. Also, N did appear after the tournament.
- Jossed as far as B2W2 is concerned, there was no second tournament. As for 15 years, well, according to Kaoz, that makes 9 and a quarter years to go...
- Generation Six has already been announced... But there was be a Filler Arc between Episode N and then.
- Except Orre is not part of the main series.
- And those games are how old?
- There's a unconfirmed rumor that there's going to be an RPG for the Wii, and many speculate that it's going to be based on Orre. If that's true, there's probably going to be some reference to it in the anime, as the Ranger series did, and the Mystery Dungeon games did get their own mini-series.
- Jossed, though it would've been better to go there than to a non-specific Ocean of Filler.
- Why the hell would Team Plasma be making Shadow Pokémon?!?!? If Shadow Pokémon are going to show up, it has to be Cipher that's responsible for them. No exceptions.
- Gethsis' next project after Plasma falls apart, maybe? OK, unlikely, but it's definitely in his character.
- Note: This Guess was written before full plot details were known.
Gaining the Championship title, N will be able to summon Zekrom. His castle will rise, and it'll be up to Ash and co to convince N of what he's doing is wrong. In order to counteract the N'd of the world as they know it, Ash will end up allying with Reshiram. All the meanwhile, Giovanni is heading to the castle, having enough of this "saving the Pokemon" bulls***. He has come to the conclusion that Reshiram and Zekrom are inherently tied to the object of his desire. He will arrive just to see Reshiram defeat Zekrom.
Then Ghetsis appears. Being enraged that his plans are foiled, he'll insult and maybe even hurt N. And, infuriated, will eliminate Ash with his Hydreigon's Focus Blast. All of a sudden Jame's Cofagrigus appears, and takes the blast in stride! This is because James and Jessie ordered this, since outright MURDERING the twerp is just plain awful. Irritated by this, Ghetsis orders Hydreigon to give their Pokemon a Curb-Stomp Battle. However, Giovanni prevents this.
And so begins evil vs eviller. Giovanni will tell the weird-looking man that he knows what he's doing is nothing but a lie. Laughing maniacally, Ghetsis fully admits he's been using N all this time, so he can conquer Unova itself. Cue Giovanni being shocked at this, and a subtle reference to Madame Boss. Ghetsis will use his Hydreigon, and Giovanni his Rhyperior. In the end, Giovanni will win.
What happens to Ghetsis after this is unknown. He won't simply be jailed, since he deserves worse. It'll either be a (perhaps his own Pokemon turn on him?), or he'll wish he was killed then and there. Or maybe a Karmic Transformation courtesy of Cofagrigus. Or all of the above. Cue Tear Jerker between Ash and N, and some farewell scene.
At the end is a Sequel Hook: that Giovanni has found the source of the power he needs, and without Team Plasma there's nothing in the way over his Take Over the World scheme. He will tell the trio to keep close eye on Ash, due to his experience with Reshiram. Setting us up for what we've wanted since the very beginning: the fight against Team Rocket!
- A different troper and as awesome as this plot is, you're giving the writers of Pokemon too much credit to think of something this cool.
- They're bringing out Giovanni and his crew for the first time in years. My idea may be better than what they plan, but I bet there's some truth in it.
- Who says he'll have to lose before Plasma crashes the party? I'd say they make their move either during or just before Ash's Semi-Final match against an unnamed opponent. (He'll have beaten Trip in the Quarters.)
- Perhaps Ash makes it to the finals, however N is part of it for his plan and beats Ash in a close battle. Thus gearing up for the climatic battle to stop Team Plasma.
- Jossed. However, the "respect" part wasn't far off... He got some at the start of the next series.