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Today I found out an interesting fact from troper Ironeye:

Don't ever make the mistake of using the Laconic version as the canonical trope meaning—the laconics are often written by people who don't actually understand the drop. In this case, the laconic only corresponds to one possible cause of Darkness-Induced Audience Apathy.

The Laconic Description for DIAA states as follows:

The thing is, these descriptions are supposed to make it easier to understand what the page is about. If they can't be accurate as well as short and sweet, then there's a problem.

So for starters, what would be a better description for DIAA?

Edited by MacronNotes on Jan 29th 2023 at 6:23:45 AM

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#2126: Nov 24th 2022 at 10:36:24 AM

[up]Ok and can I use your suggestion?

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#2127: Nov 24th 2022 at 1:44:41 PM

[up](X6) Battle of the Planet’s laconic has been changed.

Also, I found this beast at Medaka Box:

Self-Insert Fic, TV Tropes conveniences, writers, archetypes, and psychoses turned manga/anime series in a good way.

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#2128: Nov 24th 2022 at 2:42:14 PM

[up][up] I mean yeah. I suggested here because I wanted to suggest it as a Laconic.

Why waste time when you can see the last sunset last?
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#2129: Nov 24th 2022 at 2:45:40 PM

[up][up]Ok and I agree that the current for Laconic.Medaka Box is awful. Here's my suggestion for a replacement:

A Slice of Life and later action series about a student council completing requests and fighting villains.

[up]Thanks and I just wanted to make sure.

Edited by RandomTroper123 on Nov 24th 2022 at 4:01:06 AM

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#2130: Nov 24th 2022 at 3:35:41 PM

[up] Big Bad is currently being cleaned up due to massive misuse. Change it to Arc Villain or Monster of the Weak.

Edited by TheLivingDrawing on Nov 24th 2022 at 6:41:15 AM

Why waste time when you can see the last sunset last?
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#2131: Nov 24th 2022 at 4:00:48 PM

[up]I was just going by what the main page said because I'm unfamiliar with the work. I'll try to fix it anyways, though.

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#2132: Nov 24th 2022 at 6:01:55 PM

[up][up][up] Medaka Box has been replaced!

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#2133: Nov 25th 2022 at 7:02:41 AM

Glitch Entity:

Character that exists because of a glitch.

The trope's definition includes more than just characters. Anyone have a better fix than just appending "or item"?

Also, the "go back" stinger joke thing is filled with Zalgo — that's not allowed, right?

Trouble Cube continues to be a general-purpose forum for those who desire such a thing.
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#2134: Nov 25th 2022 at 7:40:31 AM

[up]Zalgoified text is banned outside of the pages about Zalgo, yes.

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#2135: Nov 25th 2022 at 11:30:10 AM

[up][up]Yes, it's not allowed, and I fixed it.

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#2137: Nov 26th 2022 at 3:18:14 PM

[up]

Here's my first suggestion, which is for Laconic.Call Of Duty Black Ops:

A CIA operative has Interrogation Flashbacks regarding his adventures.
Next up is Laconic.Candy Crush Saga:
A Match-Three Game involving candy and a girl exploring the world while assisting other characters.
I'm not too sure about Laconic.Cheshire Crossing, though here's my suggestion anyways: Before I show my suggestion for Laconic.Cinemare Sins, I want to say that yes I know that I nitpick too lol (especially when I edit pages): Here is my attempt at Laconic.Clueless:
A teen comedy about a wealthy Bratty Teenage Daughter helping others.
My rewrite for Laconic.Coconut Freds Fruit Salad Island:
The odd adventures of a reality-warping coconut and other anthropomorphic fruits.
Maybe this for Laconic.Cool As Ice:
The adventures of a rapper who also falls in love with an honor student.
My attempt to rewrite Laconic.Crash Nitro Kart:
Several members of the Crash Bandicoot cast get abducted by a Russian-accented alien who challenges them to a race.
Lastly is my rewrite for Laconic.Creamed Cherries:
Bambi has to tell Faline many lies to have a successful date with her.

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#2138: Nov 26th 2022 at 4:54:10 PM

[up] and all done!

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#2139: Nov 26th 2022 at 5:19:59 PM

[up]Ok and also, I missed Laconic.City Building Series, so:

A video game series involving building cities in ancient civilizations.

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#2140: Nov 29th 2022 at 9:54:09 AM

How’s this Laconic for Evil Is Petty

A villain who engages in petty acts of Jerkassery alongside grander acts of villainy.

Why waste time when you can see the last sunset last?
Wyldchyld (Old as dirt)
#2141: Nov 29th 2022 at 4:13:04 PM

[up] I'm not sure about this suggestion:

A villain who isn't just evil, they behave like a jerkass over even the most minor, unimportant things.

If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.
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#2142: Nov 29th 2022 at 10:22:48 PM

Laconic.My Friend Cayla is just "Talky Tina 2.0."

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#2143: Nov 29th 2022 at 11:35:56 PM

[up][up] and [up](x3) I prefer the current; the fact those versions use the term jerkass suggests one of the requirements is the character just being rude. However, Evil Is Petty also involves acts of villainy that are both small yet are still worse than just being impolite.

[up]I'm thinking this:

A brand of Internet-enabled fashion dolls.

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#2144: Nov 30th 2022 at 3:38:17 AM

[up] I agree with Random here on Evil Is Petty, also that laconic for [up][up]looks good.

Edited by Ayumi-chan on Nov 30th 2022 at 7:40:44 PM

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Wyldchyld (Old as dirt)
#2145: Nov 30th 2022 at 5:02:36 AM

Yeah, I don't think the current laconic is great, but I don't think we've suggested anything better yet either.

I agree with the My Friend Cayla suggestion.

Edited by Wyldchyld on Nov 30th 2022 at 5:07:46 AM

If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.
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Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#2147: Nov 30th 2022 at 11:00:36 AM

Is it really "A brand", when there's only 1 of them? nevermind Swapping.

Cayla is available in 3 styles: Blonde, Brunette and African American. The UK saw a limited release of a Princess Edition.

Edited by Malady on Nov 30th 2022 at 11:04:33 AM

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#2148: Nov 30th 2022 at 11:19:58 AM

Here’s a more accurate laconic for With This Herring

A hero is sent on an important mission by an authority figure, who gives them poor equipment far below what they’re capable of supplying.

Why waste time when you can see the last sunset last?
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#2150: Dec 1st 2022 at 3:36:59 AM

[up][up] looks good


Anyways, heres some more laconics via the X Meets Y wicks on my Sandbox

    lol 

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