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Edited by nombretomado on Jul 21st 2018 at 11:06:45 AM

lakingsif Relationship Status: Wanna dance with somebody
Feb 22nd 2018 at 7:06:44 PM

  • 17398: Sure to the first two, nay on the last.
  • 17399: Created the disambig, but not the redirect, since the disambig hinges on two works actually named that - are there works named Gods Own County?
  • 17400: Done.

lakingsif Relationship Status: Wanna dance with somebody
Feb 22nd 2018 at 7:39:22 PM

[up] re. Gods Own County, no there aren't.

Silverblade2 Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Feb 23rd 2018 at 8:16:46 AM

Is it possible to make She Had A Name a redirect to He Had a Name?

DemonDuckofDoom from Some Pond in Hell Relationship Status: In my bunk
Feb 23rd 2018 at 2:40:52 PM

Please add this to the Western Animation folder of Quotes.Complete Monster:

"People of Earth, I am Darkseid, Lord of Apokolips! Here is your savior, cowed and broken. I have crushed him as easily as I have crushed all who have dared to oppose me throughout the cosmos. I am power unlike any you have ever known: absolute, infinite, and unrelenting. You have no choice but to prepare as a long dark future as my subjects and my slaves."

edited 23rd Feb '18 2:41:26 PM by DemonDuckofDoom

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Feb 23rd 2018 at 5:01:43 PM

[up] The Quotes subpage isn't locked. You don't have to bring it through the thread.

Feb 23rd 2018 at 5:09:17 PM

  • 17401: Did the first one. Let's see if that helps searchers before adding the second.
  • 17404: Ehhhh, it doesn't really improve searchability.

edited 23rd Feb '18 5:10:03 PM by nombretomado

Feb 23rd 2018 at 6:50:17 PM

Sorry to bug, but nobody commented on my previous post (17365); is it an acceptable edit or not?

Feb 23rd 2018 at 6:54:53 PM

I could have sworn you had said you were debating the wisdom of adding it to a controversial page or something like that? But it's not there. Sorry about that, I'll take a look later tonight.

Feb 23rd 2018 at 10:28:21 PM

@17409: Were you addressing me? Because, the post I was referring to, I just wasn't sure if the Mary Suetopia example was valid or not.

Speaking of which, also for Black Panther (2018), would it be appropriate to edit the Memetic Mutation entry to mention the "Wakanda isn't Real!" negative meme that has caused so much fire amongst the community since Ben Shapiro said it in his review?

ACW Complete Monster Editor from Arlington, VA (outside of DC) Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Feb 24th 2018 at 1:58:48 AM

At Fullmetal Alchemist, for Father, please remove the first sentence and then pothole the Father in the second sentence to Big Bad.

Please remove the Kiss the Girls entry from Film K to R and replace the Alex Cross entry at Film A to C with this:

  • Alex Cross films:
    • Kiss the Girls: "Casanova" is a Serial Killer and Serial Rapist who, as a self-proclaimed "collector of loves", kidnaps young women and locks them up in an underground dungeon in the woods to create a captive harem he can use to act out his twisted fantasies. Any girl who breaks his rules or tries to escape is either murdered by lethal injection or tied to a tree to die of starvation and exposure. He admits that his motive for all this is purely the thrill he gets in possessing other human beings and breaking them down completely through rape and torture. His allegiance with the "Gentleman Caller", a fellow serial killer from the West Coast, is similarly self-interested as he sees him as expendable. Near the end he visits the only girl who escaped by herself to complete his attempted murder of her. When detective Alex Cross arrives on the scene after having figured out Casanova's real identity, Casanova taunts Cross by pointing out how he molested Cross's niece, one of his last victims, for more than a week.
    • Alex Cross: The sadistic "Picasso" is an assassin who was hired to eliminate Giles Mercier and his associates Fan Yau Lee and Erich Nunemacher who hired him? . After being invited to Fan Yau's house, he proceeds to sedate her with a paralyzing drug. Afterwards, he murders all of her bodyguards and tortures her to death by cutting off all of her fingers. He later goes after Nunemacher, but fails to kill him due to Alex Cross and his partners Monica and Tommy interfering. As punishment for their interference, Picasso breaks into Monica's apartment and tortures her to death, shortly before sending a photo of her body to Cross's cell phone. Picasso then makes it personal by murdering Maria, Cross's pregnant wife, and later calls him after her funeral, telling Cross that the only reason why he killed her instead of him was so he could make him suffer. Picasso then goes after Giles Mercier, attacking his convoy with a rocket and killing several police officers, along with Nunemacher and Mercier's double. During Picasso's final confrontation with Cross, Picasso subdues Cross and attempts to inject him with the same paralyzing drug as well.

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Feb 24th 2018 at 11:13:57 AM

  • 17410: Yes, I was talking to you. The Mary Suetopia example has been added. The Memetic Mutation suggestion sounds fine, just provide a write-up.
  • 17411: Done.

Feb 24th 2018 at 6:24:03 PM

Proposed addendum to the Black Panther (2018) Memetic Mutation entry list:

  • "Wakanda is Real", a meme celebrating the titular nation's symbolism of African pride and Afrocentric utopianism, or at least its rejection of colonialism.
    • This, sadly, has led to the predominantly alt-right-fueled backlash meme "Wakanda Isn't Real", triggered by Ben Shapiro's criticism of the Wakanda Is Real meme on his show.

I'm not really certain if this addendum is written well, but I'm unsure of how better to articulate it:

ACW Complete Monster Editor from Arlington, VA (outside of DC) Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Feb 24th 2018 at 6:30:51 PM

At A Song of Ice and Fire, please get rid of the note for Aerys's entry. Please also remove the note for The Bloody Judge at Film A to C.

Please also take care of this for the RWBY examples under Fan Works (Web Original). Brigit goes before Marcus.


edited 24th Feb '18 6:40:14 PM by ACW

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keyblade333 Door Opening Master Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
Door Opening Master
Feb 25th 2018 at 12:40:30 AM

Any chance of adding to the Black Panther (2018) about the Special Effects Failure. It currently reads;

  • Special Effects Failure: Particular ire has fallen on one pre-released fight scene, with many people feeling the CGI looks off. Some have even made comparisons to The Matrix Reloaded in terms of its quality, and others saying it looks like it came straight out of a video game.

Having seen the movie, I wanted to add to this with;

  • Special Effects Failure: Although the movie on a whole looks impressive, the CGI looks far more dated and obvious then several of the more recent Marvel movies. The scenes involving the rhinos in particular have been criticized for how jarring the rhino's look, since they clearly do not look natural. The fight scenes involving the Black Panther suits also suffer from the CGI overuse, resulting in the scenes of intense action scenes looking janky and hard to follow.

Feel free to give critiques or suggestions.

The best things in life are in life.
AlleyOop Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
Feb 25th 2018 at 1:18:45 AM

Seconding the request for the Black Panther YMMV page about the rhinos. It's functional enough, but man does it look dated.

Anyway I was hoping to add an entry to the Memetic Mutation for that page:

  • People making comparisons between Killmonger and Vegeta due to the distinctive chest plate he wears resembling Vegeta's Saiyan armor, as well as speculation if it's an intentional shout-out due to Michael B. Jordan's known love of anime.

Also is it OK to ask for this? Don't have to if it's a bit too self-indulgent.

ACW Complete Monster Editor from Arlington, VA (outside of DC) Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Feb 25th 2018 at 2:17:23 AM

The note for Aerys was removed; what about the other 2 things (Bloody Judge; RWBY fan works stuff)?

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Feb 25th 2018 at 2:40:14 AM

edited 25th Feb '18 2:42:28 AM by hegelvonaxel

ACW Complete Monster Editor from Arlington, VA (outside of DC) Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Feb 25th 2018 at 6:26:24 AM

At Marvel Literature, for the header, please add "unless noted" after "works are listed by publication date".

For the first 90s group, please replace the current stuff with this (re-ordered, pothole removal, condensing some):

Novels for adults, copublished by Berkley Boulevard, in rough chronological order Continuity Note 

  • Untold Tales of Spider-Man anthology: In the short story "Deadly Force", by Richard Lee Byers, Spider-Man has to deal with a sadistic Serial Killer named the Rooftop Ripper, a few weeks after the death of Gwen Stacy. Spidey is enraged at the Ripper due to his M.O of kidnapping young blonde women, torturing them to death and then throwing their bodies off of a rooftop. Spidey confronts the Ripper, who brags about killing a woman earlier in the night and describes how he gruesomely murders his victims. The Ripper then states he will kill another woman if Spidey fails to stop him. The Ripper uses his super strength and fighting skills to defeat the exhausted and emotionally distraught Spidey who awakens to find the mutilated body of a blonde woman draped over him. Later, Spidey meets a cop at the scene of another of the Ripper's gruesome murders, with the cop saying this is the third victim this week. Spider-Man believes the Ripper is such a vile foe, he considers breaking his oath against killing. However, Spidey ultimately decides against that and is better prepared for the Ripper when he kidnaps another woman, threatening to rip apart the woman and throw the body parts at Spidey, who saves the woman and has the Ripper on the ropes, causing the latter to flee and try to throw the woman off the roof to get Spider-Man off his tail.
  • The Incredible Hulk: What Savage Beast, by Peter David: The Maestro is a corrupt future version of the Hulk and the dictator of a post-apocalyptic world. Hailing from an alternate timeline where the Hulk did not end his reign, this Maestro is just as cruel as the original Maestro was, killing anyone who opposes him and taking any woman who catches his fancy as a Sex Slave. Maestro kidnaps Skooter, a freedom fighter who works for an elderly Rick Jones. Maestro subjects Skooter to a device that forcibly scans Skooter's mind, allowing Maestro to learn the location of Rick's encampment, where he kills every man, woman and even child. Maestro then breaks Skooter's legs and performs taxidermy on Rick for defying him, and takes from Rick a gem called the Timeond, which used to belong to Doctor Strange and allows one to visit other times and dimensions. Maestro uses the Timeond to visit a different dimension, where an intelligent Hulk lives with Betty Ross in secret. Maestro turns back into his Bruce Banner form, murders an elderly scientist named Amos Trotter and takes his place. Maestro, as Trotter, offers to cure the Hulk, in order to get close to Betty, who is about to give birth. Betty gives birth to a child named Brett and Maestro reveals his true colors, kidnapping Brett and returning to his own dimension, where he raises Brett to be as cruel as he is. When the Hulk comes to the Maestro's dimension and gets help from another rebel encampment, Maestro orders everyone in the rebel camp to be slaughtered. Maestro has been using the Timeond to recruit Hulks from various timelines to become his army and plans to go to the Hulk's dimension to ravage it, killing millions in the process. When Brett opposes this genocidal scheme, Maestro tries to kill him.
  • Fantastic Four: To Free Atlantis, by Nancy A. Collins: Warlord Kreeg is introduced having captured a human, and would have executed said human if not stopped; he has apparently taken humans from boats before, and is notable for his hatred of humanity. His main role is taking part in a conspiracy along with Namor's cousin Byrrah to overthrow Namor and place Byrrah in charge. Kreeg manipulates Byrrah into signing several death warrants, and enjoys watching as an execution is taking place. He later has opponents killed and their heads placed on pikes. He plans to "purify" the undersea kingdoms of non-Atlanteans, and declares were on the surface world by, among other acts, having his forces attempt to blow up all the ships (at the least) of 5 major world harbors, including New York Harbor. He also decapitates a subordinate who fails him. While appearing to have good intentions, the fact that he is willing to work with a "surface-dweller" such as Doctor Doom shows that he is nothing more than, as Namor himself says, "a fierce and bloody-minded savage".
  • Iron Man: Operation A.I.M., by Greg Cox: After the supposed death of the original M.O.D.O.K. (Mental Organism Designed Only for Killing), Advanced Idea Mechanics (A.I.M.) creates a new version of this monstrosity to help fight against their creations the adaptoids (androids who can copy anyone) who have turned against them. After one of A.I.M's scientists volunteers to undergo this experiment, he is dubbed Modok 1.5 and quickly turns against A.I.M., throwing in his lot with the adaptoids and becoming their master. Modok goes to an A.I.M undersea base looking for the aforementioned experimental energy chip, destroyed around 2 weeks prior, slaughtering the hundreds of A.I.M. scientists who were present. Iron Man and his allies, Captain America, Black Panther and War Machine, go around the world to stop Modok from acquiring the ingredients to make a new energy chip. One of Modok's adaptoid minions, disguised as the Mandarin, attacks an A.I.M space station, brutally massacring everyone on board, and tries to cause the space station to crash into Miami to cover his escape. Modok takes over Stark Enterprises and uses its resources to complete the chip. Then he tells Iron Man his terrifying plan: he will use the chip's power to increase his mental powers and wipe out all of humanity and replace them with adaptoids. He then plans to wipe out all life on Earth—including the adaptoids—before going to space and slaughtering any alien civilization he finds. Declaring himself an "Angel of Death" who has transcended humanity, this new Modok is even more vicious then the original.
  • Spider-Man: Carnage In New York & Goblin's Revenge: Cletus Kasady, the Serial Killer who was psychotic even before he became the chaos-loving creature known as Carnage, ends up in possession of a Psycho Serum which causes anyone subjected to it to go mad with bloodlust. Carnage, after torturing the serum's creator, Dr. Eric Catrall, goes to a party where he violently murders some 20 or so people, and forces Spider-Man to save more. He then cuts a swath through people at a public event to feed the homeless, and attempts to drop the serum in the food for the homeless, which would cause massive casualties. He is stopped, but while escaping attempts to kill a dozen or so people before Spidey saves them. He is captured, but is broken out by a mercenary team and shows his appreciation by playing "the old skin game" with the leader—we are later told he killed 30 or so of the mercenary team—and on his way out cuts one guard's nose off and cuts off the hands of another. He later brutally kills several more people, and threatens to kill hostages if Spidey doesn't show up. Finally, when Carnage's rescuer attempts to launch a pumpkin bomb containing a few drops of Catrall's serum at Spidey, Carnage redirects it into a crowd; the only ones affected are a team of 51 mercenaries hired by Catrall's ex-employee to retrieve the serum. As Carnage watches in delight, the men brutally tear each other apart, while the final 5 are shot by the police.
  • X-Men: Smoke and Mirrors, by eluki bes shahar: Mr. Sinister is once again presented as a heartless Mad Scientist obsessed with eugenics. Mr. Sinister takes the guise of a scientist named Arnold Bocklin and claims to have devised a way to "cure" mutants and take away their powers. However, Sinister covers up the fact that this treatment results in death for the subject half of the time. Sinister has the mistress of a prominent US Senator killed by a mutant, so that the Senator will support a bill that will make this treatment mandatory for all mutants. Sinister also has a team of mercenaries called Black Team 51 kidnap some mutant teenagers from Ohio so that he can experiment on them. Sinister has also been helping the Canadian government revive the Weapon X program and helps them transform an innocent Inuit woman into a killing machine. Sinister later explains his plans to use this cure to commit genocide against the world's mutant population and when that is done, he plans to destroy humanity with a race of new superhumans he will created from the DNA of the mutants he has subjected to his "cure". When the X-Men foil his schemes, Sinister sets his lab to explode before escaping and orders his men to fight the X-Men, not caring if they die in the process.

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Feb 25th 2018 at 2:11:20 PM

I believe we're caught up.

Feb 25th 2018 at 2:15:00 PM

  • At Monster Song Of Ice And Fire page, please replace word "hands" in Books!Joffrey entry with "fingers"

Feb 25th 2018 at 2:18:10 PM

[up] This was already done on A Song of Ice and Fire, unless you meant the entry for Joffrey in the Game of Thrones folder.

edited 25th Feb '18 2:18:47 PM by nombretomado

Feb 25th 2018 at 4:08:46 PM

All-Blue Entry:

"[[{{Sinkhole}} them]]" to "[[Administrivia/{{Sinkhole}} them]]"

Are Lord Of War and The Warlord / Warlord similar enough phrases for disambigs?

They mean the same thing... -ish, but other than that, they're verbally distinct?

And we have no tropes that use any of those names, so we shouldn't make a disambig just for works, IIRC?

An Officer and a Gentleman:

''An Officer and a Gentleman'' may refer to:

* The [[Film/AnOfficerAndAGentleman film]].
* The OfficerAndAGentleman trope, for a cultured, refined, polite, and honorable military officeholder.

If a direct wick has led you here, please correct the link so that it points to the corresponding article.

Kung Fu:

''Kung Fu'' may refer to:

* The [[Series/KungFu television series]].
* ThisIndexKnowsKungFu, for our martial arts related tropes.

If a direct wick has led you here, please correct the link so that it points to the corresponding article.

Never Dead:

''Never Dead'' may refer to:

* The [[VideoGame/NeverDead video game]].
* The NotQuiteDead trope, for when you thought they were dying/dead. Not so.
* One of the other ResurrectionTropes.

If a direct wick has led you here, please correct the link so that it points to the corresponding article.

New Girl:

''New Girl'' may refer to:

* The [[Series/NewGirl series]].
* The NaiveNewcomer trope, for when you don't know anything 'cause you just got here.

If a direct wick has led you here, please correct the link so that it points to the corresponding article.


''PJs'' may refer to:

* The [[WesternAnimation/PJs the animated series]].
* The PajamaCladHero trope, for when heroics are done in sleepwear.

If a direct wick has led you here, please correct the link so that it points to the corresponding article.


''Pyramid'' may refer to:

* The [[Series/{{Pyramid}} televised gameshow]].
* The film called ''Film/ThePyramid''. [=* The PyramidPower trope, for when pyramids tend to possess unique power, or house something that does.
* The BuildLikeAnEgyptian trope, for pyramids and the Sphinx in Ancient Egypt.
* The FuturisticPyramid trope.

If a direct wick has led you here, please correct the link so that it points to the corresponding article.

Pyramid Scheme, a redirect for Ponzi, is too different? Or do we turn Pyramid into a Search-Generated Index?

Space Cowboys:

''Space Cowboys'' may refer to:

* The [[Film/SpaceCowboys film]].
* The SpaceWestern trope, for where The Old West was a frontier, so is Space.

If a direct wick has led you here, please correct the link so that it points to the corresponding article.

The Saboteur:

''The Saboteur'' may refer to:

* The [[Film/TheSaboteur film]].
* VandalismTropes, which holds all the sabotage tropes.

If a direct wick has led you here, please correct the link so that it points to the corresponding article.

Space Colony:

''Space Colony'' may refer to:

* The [[VideoGame/SpaceColony video game]].
* The SpaceStation trope, which encompasses all forms of habitation in outer space.

If a direct wick has led you here, please correct the link so that it points to the corresponding article.

Unsolved Mysteries:

''Unsolved Mysteries'' may refer to:

* The [[Series/UnsolvedMysteries television series]].
* The TheUnsolvedMystery trope, for a mystery without a solution.
* The StockUnsolvedMysteries trope, for unsolved mysteries from history.

If a direct wick has led you here, please correct the link so that it points to the corresponding article.

Stock Unsolved Mysteries and The Unsolved Mystery?

edited 26th Feb '18 5:58:04 PM by Malady

Help with possible disambig and redirect issues!
Feb 26th 2018 at 12:44:28 AM

Request for another entry in the Alternate Character Interpretation section on the Black Panther 2018 YMMV page:

  • Was W'Kabi's decision to commit a Face–Heel Turn and side with Killmonger motivated by T'Challa's supposed betrayal? Or was W'Kabi fueled by his expressed desire for Wakanda to wage war against other countries, which T'Challa had no interest in pursuing? Or was his motivation somewhere in between?