Character-Specific Pages (CSPs) are created when individual characters have so many trope examples that they can't reasonably be included on a shared page.
The Administrivia Character-Specific Pages policy details the rules that apply to these pages. All Character-Specific Pages must also follow the basic How to Create a Character Page policy, as well as the wiki's more general policies about spoilers and examples.
This cleanup thread handles the following tasks:
- Reviewing and approving new CSP proposals. All new potential CSPs must be reviewed and, if necessary, cleaned up before they're created.
- Agreeing on page names for new CSPs.
- Ensuring that wicks are updated when a new CSP is created.
- Reviewing existing CSPs if there's a concern that they need cleanup, or if it's believed that the character may no longer qualify for a page.
- Merging existing CSPs into other character pages when necessary.
- Ensuring that wicks are updated when a CSP is removed/merged.
- Creating, updating and cutting redirects, as necessary, to reflect these splits and merges.
Crowners are not normally required but, where appropriate, can be used to formalise decisions on any of these points.
If a character no longer qualifies for a CSP, it's often more practical to turn the CSP into a redirect than to cut the page entirely. This keeps the page history visible to users, and also helps to steer offsite 'inbound' traffic (search engine results) to the right place. With that in mind, cut requests for CSPs may be declined and referred to this thread if they don't have a clear consensus.
Comments linking back to this thread can be added to CSPs when needed - e.g. to confirm their creation was approved, to warn tropers that a cleanup is in progress, or to note the date and outcome of a more recent review.
We also have some more general threads for character page help -
- Character Page Cleanup
: for trope misuse, zero-context examples, spoiler tagging issues etc.
- Are these character tropes?: for queries about whether particular tropes belong on a character page or on the work's page.
This is not a policy discussion thread, it's a cleanup thread — any requests for policy changes need to be raised in Wiki Talk.
Mod update 07 Mar 2024, reflecting new CSP policy, updated again 22 Mar 2024 to mention redirects for removed CSPs
- Other options must have been tried first, like splitting pages into further groups.
- The character's folder is cleaned up beforehand, fixing any Zero-Context Examples and Wall of Text entries and removing any outdated, misused, or non-character tropes.
- A character's folder is at least 6,000 words/40,000 characters (with spaces). Here is a byte counter.note
- The current character page bypasses technical limitations and requires a split up.
- A single character takes up the majority of a page or is disproportionately bigger than other folders.
Splitting a character into their own page is a major change and needs to be run by the community before it is enacted. Even if you believe a character meets these requirements, they should be run through this thread first. Having other tropers take a look can help spot issues you may not notice or believe to be issues.
Per How to Create a Character Page, character-specific pages should only include tropes that describe the character. These tropes should fall under Characterization Tropes or one of its related indexes, unless they're recurring character traits (distinctive things that the character does repeatedly). If you're unsure what counts as a character trope, you can ask the Are these Character Tropes? thread.
If you have concerns with a general character page, they have their own separate cleanup thread, as do the self-demonstrating character pages.
Edited by Mrph1 on Mar 22nd 2024 at 10:22:03 AM
the Retromancer
For future reference, Characters.Hololive
- hololive Japan note — 24,295
- hololive Japan - Original Talent/Uncategorized note — 53,723
- Hoshimachi Suisei Ch. note — 87,580
- hololive Japan - Generation One note — 49,453
- Shirakami Fubuki Ch. note — 37,272
- Akai Haato Ch. / Haachama Ch. note — 91,727
- hololive Japan - Generation Two note — 94,053
- hololive Japan - GAMERS note — 43,471
- Inugami Korone Ch. — 59,159
- hololive Japan - Generation Three -Fantasy- note — 76,243
- Usada Pekora Ch. — 55,562
- Houshou Marine Ch. — 64,048
- hololive Japan - Generation Four note — 96,601
- Kiryu Coco Ch. — 42,325
- hololive Japan - Generation Five note — 100,952
- hololive Japan - Generation Six -holoX- note — 92,640
- holoX MEEting! — 10,775
- hololive Japan - Original Talent/Uncategorized note — 53,723
- hololive DEV_IS note — 24,969
- hololive China note — 14,214
- hololive Indonesia — 5,161
- hololive Indonesia - Generation One note — 50,973
- hololive Indonesia - Generation Two note — 54,150
- Kureiji Ollie Ch. note — 75,475
- hololive Indonesia - Generation Three note — 56,335
- hololive English note — 21,029
- hololive English - Generation One -Myth- — 17,911
- Mori Calliope Ch. note — 162,071
- Takanashi Kiara Ch. note — 93,177
- Ninomae Ina'nis Ch. note — 60,435
- Gawr Gura Ch. note — 78,339
- Watson Amelia Ch. note — 91,969
- hololive English -Promise- and -Council- note — 75,236
- IRyS Ch. — 47,701
- Ouro Kronii Ch. note — 74,231
- Nanashi Mumei Ch. note — 48,054
- Hakos Baelz Ch. note — 64,707
- hololive English - Generation Three -Advent- note — 69,667
- hololive English - Generation One -Myth- — 17,911
- holostars — 3,615
- holostars Japan note — 11,324
- holostars Japan - Generation One note — 62,406
- holostars Japan - Generation Two note — 88,104
- holostars Japan - Generation Three note — 46,522
- holostars Japan - UPROAR!! note — 26,355
- holostars English — 5,878
- holostars Japan note — 11,324
- hololive - Minor Characters note — 74,650
- hololive English - Mythbreakers note — 33,770
- hololive ERROR note — 83,061
Unofficial Wiki Curator for Complete Monster
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Holy hell that's a lot ![[lol]](https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/lol2v12_4863.png "[lol]"){kind=small}
Weird for Muzan to not have his own page while lesser demons do, but whatever.
Good freakin' griefer
On Characters.Aqua Teen Hunger Force:
- The page is at 116,267 bytes.
- Characters.Aqua Teen Hunger Force Master Shake is 42,660 bytes.
It seems alright to merge back, would be at about 157,975 bytes.
Your receipt. You can keep the freakin' change.
The Formatter
So Omni-Man got merged back into Invincible (2021): The Grayson Family, but Invincible (2021): The Empire was left as it is. it's only 21,360K to Invincible (2021): Supervillains 120,224K. Is it being kept separate for spoiler reasons or should it be merged back?
It's gonna be fun on the bun!
Hi! :3
Merge
Maybe ?
low-poly Shinri
It's just a suggestion, if it's not fine then I won't be going on ahead.
Here it was approved that Patrick and Plankton would be merged back to the main page, but it was only done with Patrick. Shall I go ahead and do the same to Plankton?
Animu
Merge Plankton too!
As for hololive, merge Suisei into hololive Japan - Original Generation and merge all CSPs of hololive Japan - Generation One while keeping the folders for Haato's alternate personas.
Edited by animuacid on Mar 29th 2024 at 1:36:55 PM
Hi! :3
4x Steven Universe is tricky, how many bytes the characters have ?
Edited by StalkerGamer on Mar 29th 2024 at 9:51:22 AM
My turn.
- Velma — 60,154 characters
- Velma - Titular Character — 56,134 characters
Merging her back shouldn't be a problem.
Hello, I'm the American Cinema Critic, I remember because the majors don't.
Animu
Yeah, especially because her CSP had an awkward name.
Hi! :3
Easy merge
low-poly Shinri
- Characters.Steven Universe Steven Quartz Universe is 226,502 characters
- Characters.Steven Universe Garnet is 52,081 characters
- Characters.Steven Universe Amethyst is 55,537 characters
- Characters.Steven Universe Pearl is 88,366 characters
- Characters.Steven Universe Rose Quartz is 90,002 characters
- Characters.Steven Universe Connie Maheswaran is 110,013 characters
- Characters.Steven Universe Peridot is 116,928 characters
- Characters.Steven Universe Lapis Lazuli is 85,159 characters
- Characters.Steven Universe Yellow Diamond is 73,073 characters
- Characters.Steven Universe Blue Diamond is 89,957 characters
- Characters.Steven Universe Pink Diamond is 145,496 characters
- Characters.Steven Universe White Diamond is 84,803 characters
- Characters.Steven Universe Jasper is 66,707 characters
- Characters.Steven Universe Spinel is 83,992 characters
- Characters.Steven Universe Greg Universe is 40,694 characters
Edited by Ayumi-chan on Mar 29th 2024 at 9:34:27 PM
She/Her | Currently cleaning N/A
Hi! :3
Has anyone discussed My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic ? Might be tricky too like Steven Universe
Hi! :3
Okay, here my thoughs:
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for Sandbox.Steven Universe Crystal Gems Initial Members, leaving only Steven's CSP intact for obvious reasons.
- for Sandbox.Steven Universe The Main Diamonds
- Tentative for Sandbox.Steven Universe Crystal Gems Human Allies and Sandbox.Steven Universe Crystal Gems Later Members.
- Leave Pink Diamond intact for now
Edited by StalkerGamer on Mar 29th 2024 at 10:48:28 AM
"Cool. Coolcoolcool."
Merged back Garrison. I will do the Kingdom Hearts ones tomorrow. What did we decide with the Scream ones?
Fan-Preferred Couple cleanup thread
low-poly Shinri
What about RQ, Jasper and Spinel?
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I don't think "Main Diamonds" will be a necessary title. You can just call it "Steven Universe - The Diamonds".
Unofficial Wiki Curator for Complete Monster
I don't think we ever came to a formal decision on Scream.
There's other South Park merges that can probably be done. Like merging Randy back to the family members (about 200k total) and combining all the antagonists (around 220k).
Kenny could probably be merged back to the boys, but I'm fine keeping him separate.
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Hi! :3
4x Honestly I don't know. I'm having second thoughts about Steven Universe CSPs, I would leave all of CSPs intact for now.
Edited by StalkerGamer on Mar 29th 2024 at 4:29:22 PM
Unofficial Wiki Curator for Complete Monster
Sigh...Ghost Recon Wildlands:
- Ghost Recon Wildlands US Personnel: ~42k
- Ghost Recon Wildlands Santa Blanca Cartel: ~107k
- Ghost Recon Wildlands UNIDAD And Kataris 26: ~25.2k
- Ghost Recon Wildlands DLC: ~27.2k
- Ghost Recon Other: ~4.3k
About 205-206k total.
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So about this post, should I go ahead or leave some other pages intact?
Unofficial Wiki Curator for Complete Monster
Go ahead with the merges, but I say keep Muzan's page separate.
If someone wants to try , please. I'd do it, but I'm not sure of the proper formatting.
Edited by ACW on Mar 30th 2024 at 11:48:39 AM
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I was going through Characters.Demon Slayer Kimetsu No Yaiba's page, and found the following:
- Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba: Main Characters (82,656 bytes)
- Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba: Tanjiro Kamado (67,387 bytes)
- Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba: Zenitsu Agatsuma (76,202 bytes)
Both Tanjiro and Zenitsu could be merged back with resultant page becoming 226k bytes.- Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba: Demon Slayer Corps (177,135 bytes)
- Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba: Hashira (225,277 bytes)
- Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba: Yoriichi Tsugikuni (47,515 bytes)
Yoriichi's page could be merged back with resultant page becoming 224k bytes.- Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba: Demons (88,970 bytes)
- Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba: Muzan Kibutsuji (96,637 bytes)
Muzan could be merged back with Demons' page becoming 185k bytes.- Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba: Twelve Kizuki (22,184 bytes)
- Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba: Twelve Kizuki: Lower Ranks (62,375 bytes)
- Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba: Twelve Kizuki: Upper Ranks (153,531 bytes)
- Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba: Kokushibo (50,703 bytes)
- Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba: Akaza (46,578 bytes)
- Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba: Hantengu (57,681 bytes)
Lower Ranks could be safely merged back, whereas only Akaza could safely be merged back to Upper Ranks, otherwise adding Kokushibo would send it close to 250k bytes. Every Demon Slayer character page has an overhead of around 2k bytes, so the above calculated pages could be barely smaller after the merge. Should I go ahead?Edited by kuchiki222 on Mar 28th 2024 at 8:38:17 AM