The Hindsight tropes, Hilarious in Hindsight, Harsher in Hindsight, and Heartwarming in Hindsight, are among the most misused Audience Reaction tropes on this site. Many people don't understand that the tropes require more than just "This happened, so that happened", and end up adding examples which either lack connection or the substance that makes them funny/serious/not-so-funny/heartwarming. Some of them may be suited better for other tropes (ex: Life Imitates Art), while some may not belong on TV Tropes at all (such as ones involving politicians, due to Rule of Cautious Editing Judgment).
Please report any Hindsight example that you feel are questionable, and we'll analyze them to see if they are actually examples or not.
Remember that the Hindsight tropes are Audience Reactions. That means if an example under review discusses significant fan response pointing out the hindsight, the example can't be cut solely for being too tenuous for this thread.
- Creator's character/portrayal dies in work and then creator dies in real life, unless their fictional death is closely similar to their real one (such as Billy Bob Joe portraying a character who dies from pancreatic cancer, then Billy Bob dies from pancreatic cancer himself)
- Mundane word related to something terrible (such as "corona" or "Epstein") unless there's more to the connection (such as someone named "Corona" having the flu)
- Creator appears in work then becomes more controversial later on.
- A common event (such as a typical natural disaster) happens in work, then happens in real life (unless they are closely similar, such as the event happening to the same area in both reality and fiction around the same time) For once, not everything related to disease has to do with COVID-19, not everything related to racism and Police Brutality has to do with George Floyd and Black Lives Matter, and not everything related to sexual abuse has to do with #MeToo.
- A common/generic concept was used in this work and then later reused in that work (too loose for a connection, unless the concept is so unique it's identified with the work)
- Two actors appear together then do so in another work
- Hindsight examples involving recent events, due to them often being shoehorns. Specifically:
- COVID-19 examples, before 75% of the population has returned to normal
- George Floyd/2020 Black Lives Matter examples, before protests have declined
- Examples which fall guilty of Older Than They Think, such as "Make X Great Again" slogans. Aside from violating the ROCEJ, this slogan has been in use since the 1940s.
- Characters using slurs which are treated as annoying at worst in the work, but is now harsher due to how severe the slur is made now. Discrimination has always existed with that slur. (May qualify for Values Dissonance if work is at least 20 years old.)
Note: As of January 2022, "Funny Aneurysm" Moment is no longer separate from Harsher in Hindsight.
- The former redirects to the latter and all wicks to the former (with the exception of ones on archive pages and the YMMV Redirects index) must either be moved to the latter (if they're valid) or removed (if they're invalid).
- The subpages for the former are still accessible from this page
. After a subpage for "Funny Aneurysm" Moment has been completely cleaned up, turn it into a redirect to the Harsher in Hindsight subpage for the same medium to preserve inbounds.
Edited by Tabs on Jun 21st 2023 at 11:51:25 AM
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Small cleanup on the Total Drama page:
Is this shoehorned inclusion?
Edited by DookieIdiotNimrod on Apr 4th 2021 at 10:16:53 AM
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That's Fan Myopia. I was a hardcore Total Drama fan but not an SCP fan, and I never saw anyone connect that scene to SCP.
Edited by mightymewtron on Apr 4th 2021 at 10:35:57 AM
I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
Berserk Button: misusing Nightmare Fuel
This was added to YMMV.Jojos Bizarre Adventure Stardust Crusaders under Hilarious in Hindsight:
- The fact that the second half of the part takes place in Egypt and that the credits music for the first half of the anime adaptation is "Walk Like an Egyptian" becomes rather funny when realizing that for Stone Ocean's anime adaptation, the person cast to voice Jolyne, who is Jotaro's daughter, was Fairouz Ai, who was born to a Japanese mother and an Egyptian father.
This feels like a bit of a stretch to me.
Definite stretch. Delete.
From YMMV.Atlantis The Lost Empire.
- Hilarious in Hindsight:
- Rourke referring to himself as an AdVenture Capitalist.
- James Garner is revealed to be the villain while in the previous Disney film, David Spade played a Jerkass who Took a Level in Kindness. The two would eventually star together on the sitcom 8 Simple Rules as characters who hate each other.
- This wouldn't be the last time we hear of a sarcastic Italian by the name of Vinny.
Those are all terrible to a genuinely upsetting degree. Cut.
Edited by nrjxll on Apr 4th 2021 at 12:38:31 PM
I'm Sad Frogerson.
Okay, there's been this entry on Heartwarming in Hindsight that's been bugging me for a while, so I figured I'd bring it up here. It's an entry from South Park, specifically from the episode "Mr. Garrison's Fancy New Vagina".
- In the infamous "Mr. Garrison's Fancy New Vagina", Ms. Garrison finds herself disappointed that her GRS doesn't make her able to get pregnant. Now, uterus transplants might allow trans women to do just that in the next decade or so.
So, a few things. First of all, this procedure is still in the experimental phase and not available to the public. It's more speculation at this point than anything. But what troubles me more is that the entry neglects to mention the context of the scene. Specifically, Garrison wasn't upset that henote couldn't get pregnant, he was upset that he couldn't experience an abortion.
I know it's a touchy subject, but the show is clearly aiming for shock value with that scene (Garrison uses the phrase "scramble its brains out" a few times). It ultimately leads to Garrison realizing that he's "not a woman" but "a guy with a mutilated penis", and I think the episode wants to portray Garrison as in the right in that scene?
Needless, this episode is kind of hated by the trans-community, and I don't think you could really look at that scene and think it's sweet because it might be possible for transwomen to get pregnant someday. Should we cut this? Or am I off-base?
As a trans girl, slash it.
"Listen up, Marina, because this is SUPER important. Whatever you do, don't eat th“ “DON'T EAT WHAT?! Your text box ran out of space!”
Coffeenix! (She/Her)
Harsher in Hindsight:
- In the end of "The Big Problem," Timmy (after becoming a 10 year old again) is released from jail because according to the guard, it's "for creepy adults, not kids." In the past few years, quite a few kids Timmy's age and even younger have been sentenced to adult prison. "In the past few years" Examples Are Not Recent, I'm pretty sure kids going to adult prison was a thing way before this episode aired.
- "Channel Chasers" features a live-action parody of Blue's Clues wherein the Steve expy requests the audience ignore his obvious signs of age. Turns out Steve left the show the year prior because he felt the same about his career. If he left the show prior then it isn't hindsight, if it was then this would fit FAM more anyway.
- On the topic of Butch Hartman's controversies, his recent behavior has been accused of being, among other things, narcissistic. Thus, some may think it's rather fitting to see him voicing Dr. Rip Studwell, a ridiculously vain character that looks just like him. This would go under FAM if it wasn't complainy and slightly dodgy in terms of ROCEJ.
Hilarious in Hindsight:
- In one episode, the President had a button that blew up Pluto. Cosmo pushes it... and nobody cares. There's another instance of this in another episode, one of the things on Timmy's to do list is checking out the moons of Pluto. I have no idea what this entry is referring to.
- The Dinkleberg meme, you know, the one where Dinkleberg is blamed for everything? Well, try to watch the episode where Dinkleberg pretends to actually be evil and try not to laugh harder. Not sure.
- One of the (minor) wishes Timmy's made has been for a unicorn, which is a lot funnier when you remember one of the later roles his voice actress wound up taking. Bonus points for both shows having a character named Trixie. Actor related shoehorning.
- Hilarious for the same reason, in the first Crimson Chin episode, Timmy wins a costume contest at the comic con due to his Cleft outfit, the prize he wins being "Pretty Ponies" issue 2 and 3. More actor related shoehorning.
- Double points is that in the first Crimson Chin episode is one of the shows many Superhero Episodes and the title "Pretty Ponies" might lead to this episode. This is a big stretch. The Pretty Ponies aren't superheroes, they just happen to be brought up in a superhero episode, also more actor related shoehorning.
- In "Nega-Timmy", the poof cloud whenever Timmy does opposites from his parents says "Foop". Cue the first episode of the seventh season. Too loose of a connection to the character. Foop is an Evil Counterpart to Poof, but that's the only other similarity this episode has to him.
- In "When Losers Attack", Foop, Crocker, and Dark Laser team up and call their group the League Of Super Evil Revenge Seekers (LOSERS). Those who are familiar with their forgotten Cartoon Network shows will recall a show they ran called League of Super Evil. LOSE came out in 2009, When LOSERS Attack aired in 2011, not hindsight.
- In the episode where Timmy visits Atlantis, the mermen eat crabs, sea-stars, and the occasional underwater squirrel. Guess who experienced Seasonal Rot before the other. Spongebob was a thing long before this episode aired, this episode was an intentional reference, and this example is unnecessarily snarky.
- This line from "Tiny Timmy": "Emotions are controlled by little people in chairs." Not to mention a later episode in which Timmy wished away all his emotions after being publicly humiliated at a community swimming pool, where said emotions were represented as an uncontrollable hoard of tiny, colorful, anthropomorphic spirits designed accordingly to the individual feelings they embodied (i.e. an anthropomorphic pink heart representing "love"). Pretty sure Anthropomorphic Personification of emotions was a thing before this episode.
- Cat Man, anyone? Also, both the April Fool and the Inappropriate Comedy Tree like to say "What's up with that?"
- For certain Five Nights at Freddy's, South Park, and Wanda Vision fans, Sparky's name and species can be seen as this. I have no idea what this entry is talking about, more Fan Myopia. This example is a shoehorn anyway because Sparky is a common name for a dog.
- One of Timmy's more minor friends on the show was a kid named Sanjay. Sanjay from FOP has nothing to do with Sanjay and Craig.
- One of the timeline differences listed by Jorgen at the end of "It's a Wishful Life" was the Chicago Cubs winning the World Series. Guess who won the World Series in 2016. Eh, leaning towards delete. The Chicago Cubs would've won at some point.
- There's one episode that is titled and features a Show Within a Show called The Odd Squad. By sheer coincidence, an edutainment show on PBS would end up having the same name. The FOP episode is a stereotypical action series, the PBS show is about math. They have similar names but they don't have anything in common besides that.
- The episode "Pipe Down" partially revolves around charades. Then you realize this may have been inspired by Butch Hartman's time as a contestant on the CBS game show Body Language, which revolved around charades. (On a side note, Dee Bradley Baker's co-star from another Nickelodeon show, Legends of the Hidden Temple, Kirk Fogg also appeared as a contestant on Body Language.) If it was inspired by something then it isn't hindsight. The bit about random Nickelodeon stuff is also unnecessary.
- The Boy Who Would Be Queen was first aired in 2002, but Chester's panicked insistence that boys and girls have different bathrooms because they're different, and his meltdown at seeing Veronica in the boys' room with him, is even more topical more than a decade later as it resembles the transgender bathroom panic. Pretty sure the trans bathroom panic was a thing before this episode.
- The general theme of this episode was a deconstruction of gender norms with the moral of "Boys shouldn't be ashamed for liking girly things, and girls shouldn't be ashamed for liking boyish things." It became a lot more topical in The New '10s with the rising Brony fandom (male fans of My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic) and more girls being into video games that were normally aimed at boys. Boys liking girl things and vice-versa was already a thing before this episode, even if it wasn't nearly as prominent. Wasn't this entry deleted before?
- The plot of "Just the Two of Us" is a guy arranges it so that the girl he likes will be trapped with him in a world where they're the only two people around, only for her to eventually snap and turn on him. In 2016, someone decided to turn this 10-minute cartoon episode into a feature length film. Eh. Probably not.
- In the otherwise lackluster "Timmy's Secret Wish", we find out the titular wish was for Timmy and everyone else to stay the same age, even after 50 years. Fast forward to 2017... Characters staying the same age happens all the time in cartoons.
- The debut episode of the Nega-Chin has Timmy summon all the alternate versions of the Crimson Chin to fight the entirety of the Chin's Rogues Gallery in that episode's climax. Wait, that sounds familiar... Pretty sure plots like this existed before FOP.
- When Pokemon X and Y introduced the Fairy-type, thus proving Fairies R Real in the Pokemon universe, the fandom had a field day with making Denzel Crocker references. Fairies were a thing in fiction long before FOP aired.
- This would not be the only time a show would have a character named Vicky who loves to torture and blackmail people. Feels too loose of a connection.
- Shrek 2's villain is the Fairy Godmother, who resides in a Hollywood-like kingdom, has celebrity prestige and a cynical businesswoman attitude reminiscent of the Fairies in this show, and acts as My Beloved Smother to a spoiled manchild prince. It's almost like she originally came from Fairy World.
- The episode Power Mad! has Cosmo and Wanda act out many programs inside the TV keep Vicky distracted. One of the segments is a parody of the 50s sitcom I Love Lucy called "I Love Wanda" with Cosmo saying "Wanda, you've got some splainin' to do!". Just shy of two decades later, the short clip perfectly captures the essence of Wanda Vision. "X has some explaining to do" is too common a phrase. Even with the loose connection of both characters being named Wanda, I'm 99.9% sure this scene has nothing in common with the series.
- Also from that same segment, Wanda is seen taking care of a baby. She and Cosmo would have their own baby in season 6. Characters having babies happens all the time. Poof looks nothing like that baby.
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...Wow. That's a lot. Too much, actually. Let's do it example by example:
FAM:
1. Someone's trying to start an edit war. Slash it again, and if it comes back, interrogate the person who keeps adding it.
HARIH:
2. You're exactly right. Slash it.
3. As a Blues Clues fan, that's not why he left. He left because his hair was balding and he didn't want to go bald on live television. Cut it.
4. Very complainy. That doesn't count as a FAM. I would say edit it, but there's really no way to edit the complaints out without removing the entire thing.
HIH:
5. Reading it multiple times, I feel like it's saying "Pluto was mentioned twice in the show." Remove.
6. As someone who has never seen the series, I don't feel like I have the right stance on it, but it feels shoehorned.
7. Yeah. That's the definition of a shoehorn. Cut it.
7B. ...I can't even call that a shoehorn. That's just...I don't unrderstand it at all. Definite cut.
7C. I'm lost. Cut from me, just because I understand jack shit at this point.
8. IIRC, Hindisghts cannot be intentional by the creators, which this one was. Cut.
9. Slash it. Not only is the only connection a funny acronym...but it's out of order.
10. Bashing something over a cross reference. Remove it.
11. Maybe we should make it a rule that, "Just because [X] did it and is famous for doing it doesn't mean they're the only one who did it." Maybe if you're optimistic, you could give it a pass for getting the colored spirits and chairs right? I dunno on this one, actually.
12. The fuck's a cat man? This example makes no sense. What's up with that? Jokes aside, this is fan myopia at it's worst. It's both a ZCE and assuming that "What's up with that" isn't a common saying. Slash it.
13. Another fan myopia. A dog named Sparky isn't uncommon, and even if all of the dogs were named something like "Donnacheeto" or something, it would still be myopia. Cut it.
14. While Sanjay isn't a common name like Timmy, Bob, or Kevin, just because one person is named Sanjay, and there was another cartoon with another Sanjay isn't enough connection.
15. On the fence for this one. Like you, leaning towards delete, but it could hold some merit. When was the episode made? If it was somewhere from 2013 - 2016, I guess it could count.
16. I've seen the term "Odd Squad" be thrown around in numerous books, TV Shows, and Shows within shows. Just search up "The Odd Squad Book" or 'Odd Squad Book Series". Cut it.
17. Correctamundo. "Inspired" isn't hindsight. In fact, it's the opposite of it. Slash.
18. Trans bathroom panics were there before 2002, and the whole "Girl in the boys room" thing doesn't always equal transgender people. Sometimes, it just means 8 year olds scream when they see a girl in the boys room (or vice versa). Cut it.
19. Yeah. deconstruction of gender norms have been there since the 60s. And again, if it was deleted before, slash it again, and if it somehow returns, call the person over here and ask them why they want to start an edit war.
20. I'd actually say that this one is pretty ok.
21. I don't understand this one. Not only is the "otherwise lackluster" part just complaining, but you're right. Cartoon characters staying the same age is nothing special. Cut.
22. One thing these examples need to do is clarify what the other thing making the moment hilarious/heartwarming/harsh is. If they don't do that and just say "hat sounds familiar", it's fan myopia to people who don't know the work they're referencing. Slash.
23. Just cut it. FOP didn't invent faries.
24. WHO THE HELL IS THE OTHER VICKY? I don't know, and I should be able to if they're just going to say nothing about it. Anyway, cut.
25. That's a Stretch Armstrong level stretch right there. Slash it, if it's added again, bring the person starting the war over here.
26. Besides there being two Wandas, the only connection is "Explaining to do" and "Sitcom". Cut it.
27. If it only happened once in a TV Show, it could stay around. But if it has hapened multiple times, maybe cut it.
Welp...seems this page has gone to the 27 club. Rest in spagetti, let us please forgetti.
Edited by DookieIdiotNimrod on Apr 5th 2021 at 11:02:31 AM
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I said on the cleanup thread that the "Timmy TV" entry is valid if you cut the Crocker part (too much of a stretch to complain as the show's not actually about Crocker).
The Hindsight thread also decided we could keep the WandaVision example on the basis that it's a pretty common joke among people who like FOP, so it is documenting the audience reaction. Not sure about the baby part though.
EDIT: As for the Chicago Cubs thing, while it was made in the early 2000s, I also remember multiple viral fandom posts and tweets about it ("we'll be living in the world where Timmy was never born!"), so it could be the same situation as the WandaVision one: worth keeping on the basis of recording an audience reaction.
I think the first part of the Pluto one is fine if written more clearly, but not the "moons of Pluto" part which is just a shoehorn.
Edited by mightymewtron on Apr 5th 2021 at 11:33:13 AM
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I'm Sad Frogerson.
Regarding the Pluto entry, I'm pretty sure that's supposed to be a "Pluto's no longer a planet" thing. Still a pretty weak connection though.
MLPEG: Digital Series:
- Hilarious in Hindsight:
- A few regarding the existence of a YouTube-exclusive Equestria Girls show.
- The initial announcement for the spin-off back in 2013 — four years and four months ago! — was as a "companion series" to the main Friendship Is Magic show. It turned out to be a movie (and then a series of movies. And then an actual, episodic series.)
- Back when Rainbow Rocks was announced and set for release, a French toy magazine reported that the Kazachok Licensing Show 2014 event had (supposedly; the entire thing is very Epileptic Tree worthy) details on a new Equestria Girls series titled L'Equestria Academy, l’école de tous les succès note , and that it would debut on that year's Kidexpo (except it didn't, and was never mentioned again).
- And, of course, the insanity of EQUESTRIA GIRLS, which predates the first filmnote .
- The concept of a guerrilla street artist going by the name of Flanksy, as a reference to Banksy, was already explored in the fan fiction Exit Through Canterlot, though it was Octavia who used the moniker and it took place in the pony world.
- A few regarding the existence of a YouTube-exclusive Equestria Girls show.
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- Sounds like the animated show is just the culmination of the initial announcement's promise to make a series. I don't think that's hindsight.
- I don't see the connection. Equestria Girls was likely going to have a series no matter what, especially if the original announcement already implied one was in production as well as the movies.
- How is this hindsight? It's a parody of the concept based on promotional material, when we already knew the franchise would exist. They didn't predict the existence of the franchise. Unless it predicted something specific about the events of the series, it's no more hindsight than making a Shallow Parody of a film trailer before the film comes out.
- That's Hindsight for the fanfic not the webseries.
So yeah, cut all of them.
Edited by mightymewtron on Apr 5th 2021 at 12:06:28 PM
I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
Gonna do it.
"Listen up, Marina, because this is SUPER important. Whatever you do, don't eat th“ “DON'T EAT WHAT?! Your text box ran out of space!”
Berserk Button: misusing Nightmare Fuel
YMMV.Blaz Blue Cross Tag Battle has a huge Hilarious in Hindsight section, most of which looks like shoehorning, especially since very few of them are about the game becoming Hilarious In Hindsight, so most should be on the other work's page, if it belongs at all.
- Hilarious in Hindsight:
- To those familiar with his home series, Hyde is jokingly considered to be the love child of Ragna and Yu. Now he's in a crossover fighting game with both of them.
Um, maybe this could go on UNIB's YMMV page?
- RWBY has been noted as taking several cues from Arc System Works games, be it through story elements or just blatant references. Now Ruby is in an Arc System Works fighting game, and her Japanese voice actress even voices one respective character in two of the crossed-over series! note
This looks like a huge stretch, plus it's about RWBY, not this game.
- This video from 2015 crosses RWBY's battle with Roman Torchwick's Paladin mech in Volume 2 with the Persona 4 battle GUI and normal battle theme, "Reach Out to the Truth." Considering that that theme is also Narukami's Leitmotif, it will be playing in many battles between him and any of the RWBY cast.
Stretch.
- The first gameplay footage of Ruby shown off has her in her default color palette teamed with Ragna going against another Ruby in her blue color palette teamed with Jin. It's Red Vs Blue all over again!
Stretch, plus it's about Red vs. Blue, not this game.
- A BlazBlue webcomic known as Blazen!, which already crossed BlazBlue over with sister series Guilty Gear at times (being, in part, a continuation of the author's work on a previous webcomic, Holy Zen!), started doing Persona 4: Arena crossovers when the assets become available. Perhaps if they show up to the fight, this means Hazama and the Boundary Bros. note can meet some of Persona 4 (and possibly Persona 3)'s "fair maidens"!
- And now that Hazama's been confirmed, we are reminded of this gem from Blazen!'s "Back in the Saddle"...
This belongs on Blazen's page, not here. - BlazBlue has a Nico Nico Douga radio show known as BlazBlue Radio (BlueRadio or BuruRaji for short) hosted by Tomokazu Sugita (Ragna), Kanako Kondo (Noel) and Asami Imai (Tsubaki). Before this game was announced, Saori Oonishi (Phonon) and Showtaro Morikubo (Yosuke) had already made appearances on the show.◊ Mikako Takahashi (Heart) had also appeared on the show prior to Arcana Heart being added to the roster.
This belongs on BBR's page, and even then it looks like a stretch.
- Es was one of the characters in Central Fiction with a color palette based on RWBY, Ruby Rose in her case. Now she and Ruby are both playable in the same game, and Es still has her Ruby palette.
- And now, Weiss has seemingly copied Es's hairstyle (sans ahoge) in her home series
The first point looks like a stretch, and is about CF. Second point is a big maybe. - This video that came out in 2015: a BlazBlue: Chronophantasma combo music video set to "Time to Say Goodbye" from RWBY.
HUGE stretch.
- With Aegis's inclusion, she can finally have a re-match with Noel after their first encounter. It also means that, with Tager at her side, this can now happen.
Maybe the first part of the example could go on HilariousInHindsight.Death Battle. The second part could maybe stay.
- It's been a running gag among the RWBY fandom about the argument whether it counts as anime or not. Now, RWBY will be animated in anime-style thanks to the cinematic intro.
- Amusingly, in BuluRaji NEO, Ami Koshimizu refers to RWBY as an anime.
Another huge stretch, definitely cut. - There's a Super Smash Bros. for Wii U mod that gives Pit a skin based on Ruby Rose. That was released long before Ruby had her own fighting game debut here.
Stretch.
- Modding in Dissidia 012 Final Fantasy made it possible to have Ragna cross swords with Yu and Ruby before this game made it happen for real.
Stretch.
- In the fifth volume of RWBYnote , it was revealed that the headmaster of Beacon Academy, Ozpin, is an immortal who jumps to a new host every time his old one dies, which is a very similar situation to Linne's.
- Even better, Volume 6 revealed that his enemy, Salem, is not only someone he used to be close with, but also indestructible and immortal, much like Linne's relationship with her brother Kuon.
Stretch, is about RWBY, and Ozpin isn't even in the game. - Jubei's inclusion here means that, ironically, he's the first of the Six Heroes to make it into the game after years of being snubbed from BlazBlue's character roster. (While Hazama and Platinum were announced before him, it is heavily implied that Hazama was not hosting Terumi for this game, and it was not announced at that time if Platinum would be hosting Trinity, which she does.)
Um, maybe this one?
- Weiss has been noted to be based off Snow White, being an heiress with white hair, white clothes, and ice abilities. This game then decides to go one further by making one of Weiss's palette swaps◊ be based off the Disney version of Snow White.
This isn't HIH. Maybe Shout-Out?
- In Persona 5, Joker can wield Izanagi (aka Yu's initial Persona) if one buys the DLC to do so. Come to this game, one of Yu's color palettes have him dressing up like Joker himself with Izanagi looking like Arsene (aka Joker's initial Persona) causing Yu and Joker to both wield each other's Personas in a way.
Another stretch.
- This fan art of Ragna wearing the Yasogami High School uniform manages to be this given how Chie states a line about him wearing the school uniform in the P4A trailer of the game.
Maybe this is keepable too.
- In Episode P4A, Kanji was extremely disappointed that he couldn't pet Jubei. Later, Kanji was announced to be in Persona Q2: New Cinema Labyrinth with Morgana from Persona 5, giving him a second chance at petting a talking cat.
A stretch, but at least this one is actually hindsight for this game.
- Speaking of Morgana from Persona 5, that cat has gotten an infamous reputation for constantly telling Joker to go to sleep. In Linne's interaction with Mika (who has the same English voice actress as Morgana), Linne told Mika that it is past her bedtime. So, in a way, Morgana got told to go to bed after all the times he told Joker to go to sleep.
Don't know what to make of this.
- Yang's battle theme "I Burn" has lyrics comparing her to a Super Saiyan and saying that the Human Torch and Johnny Blaze are posers compared to her. This becomes pretty funny when one considers the relationship between this game, Dragon Ball Fighterz (made by the same company), and Marvel vs. Capcom: Infinite (direct competitor and Johnny Blaze is in that game's roster). For bonus points, her theme song in BBTAG uses the portion of "I Burn" that includes those lyrics, and they're left intact to boot.
This feels like a stretch, and I'm not sure what the hindsight is.
- Flash Games once hosted an official April Fool's Blazblue x Arcana Heart Crossover. With Heart's addition, it has become reality.
Maybe? Still feels like a bit of a stretch.
- You'd never expect Seth and Labrys to get married, did you?
This feels like a stretch too.
- A long time after this part of the Persona 4 Endurance Run became a thing, when Blitztank gets released, you can, once again, make Chie Satonaka Galactic Punt a tank into orbit.
I'd move this to the Endurance Run's page.
- Casey Lee Williams cosplayed as Neo before she became her voice actress.
This might be okay? I don't know.
- A promotional stunt involved Heart going on a date with Ragna. Here, shippers can consider this game as them becoming a full on Battle Couple.
Also a maybe.
- To those familiar with his home series, Hyde is jokingly considered to be the love child of Ragna and Yu. Now he's in a crossover fighting game with both of them.
Coffeenix! (She/Her)
Might stop after this one so we can go through the other examples that have been piling up in this thread. I admittedly am not into MLP so I can't be the best judge on these.
From YMMV/Cupcakes:
- Harsher in Hindsight: One episode of the actual show involves Pinkie Pie having a psychotic break and being in a room alone with Rainbow Dash. The fic became more disturbing thanks to that coincidence. This is a very loose connection. Pinkie in Party of One is depressed and schizoid, Pinkie in Cupcakes acts like she normally does, but with murder. Party of One also doesn't have any torture (obviously).
- Naturally, this one ('Party of One') is relied on for the trailer. Incorrect indentation aside, I have no idea what this example is getting at.
- "Green Isn't Your Color" becomes unsettling after reading this fic. The creepy stalkerish thing is bad enough, but she also threatens Twilight Sparkle by taking a bite out of an apple. And shortly afterwards we're treated to a closeup shot of cupcakes. Eh, not sure. Something about this doesn't feel right.
- Hilarious in Hindsight:
- Albeit moreso in a Gallows Humor sense, this video was made two years before Cupcakes was ever written. People have seem to take notice in the comments. If the video came before the fic then it isn't hindsight.
- There's a pony named Cupcake, who loves cupcakes, in the toy line. She's one of the older ponies, if not the oldest, to be in every generation, not to mention that Mrs. Cake's first name is "Cup" Massive stretch, the character has no similarities to the fic besides name.
- There's also this scene from 'Call of the Cutie' where Applebloom warns Scootaloo not to eat a cupcake. This feels shoehorned. I'm pretty sure the cupcake was poisoned or something, it obviously has nothing to do with cannibalism.
- You know it's implied that Pinkie turned Luna into cupcakes? Well, even though she was pretending, we saw how scared of her Pinkie could be. What is this trying to say? "Lol, in the fic she murders her, but in canon she's a scared lil' bitch" There was likely going to be a contradiction with the fic considering this fanfic obviously isn't canon anyway.
- This webpage features a recipe for Rainbow Dash cupcakes.
- Cupcakes itself predates a certain horse meat scandal. Aside from not going into any detail on what the scandal was, Horsegate was about horse meat being sold as beef, not being stuffed into cupcakes. It is a weird coincidence, but it still feels like a shoehorn.
- The episode "Party Pooped" reveals that Canon!Pinkie actually does have a secret basement under Sugarcube Corner. Coincidence, or Fandom Nod? Eh. Feels too loose. Also, why was this spoiler tagged? This doesn't seem plot relevant.
- Pinkie Pie is depicted as a Psychopathic Manchild in this story. Pinkie Pie's voice actress, Andrea Libman, would go on and voice Brightwing on Heroes of the Storm... who is an adorable Psychopathic Manchild. Pretty sure this is actor related shoehorning.
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The only one that could be valid is the "Rainbow Dash cupcakes" one, just because anybody with a cursory knowledge of the fandom would see something like that and go "oh nooooo." Though that belongs on another page not for the fanfic.
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Here's the "badly-shoehorned example of the day", for Miranda Cosgrove: (deleted, for obvious reasons)
- Hilarious in Hindsight: Miranda and her iCarly co-star Jennette are often mistaken as Disney stars. After the show ended, both of them are known to often hang out together... in Disneyland. — …wat
Edited by RobertTYL on Apr 5th 2021 at 9:08:06 PM
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If you go to Disneyland then you become a Disney star and Disney officially owns your soul.
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From Logan:
- This certainly won't be the last time that an adaptation of a marvel comicbook, set in the 2020s featuring the actor of a character fights themselves.
I didn't watch Wanda Vision, but this looks forced as hell. Are there any strong similarities between these two works other than the fact they are both owned by Marvel?
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Endgame also did it. 
But yeah, that's so pointlessly specific and only exists to draw an arbitrary connection.
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Edit: NVM, I fixed it.
Edited by RainbowPumpqueen on Apr 5th 2021 at 11:00:40 PM
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Just null-edit and add a reason.
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Brainy Baby has been a trope for a long time, zap it.
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