Do you have trouble remembering the difference between Deathbringer the Adorable and Fluffy the Terrible?
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Not sure if you really have a Badass Bookworm or just a guy who likes to read?
Well, this is the thread for you. We're here to help you will all the finer points of example writing. If you have any questions, we can answer them. Don't be afraid. We don't bite. We all just want to make the wiki a better place for everyone.
Useful Tips:
- Make sure that the example makes sense to both people who don't know the work AND don't know the trope.
- Wrong: The Mentor: Kevin is this to Bob in the first episode.
- Right: The Mentor: Kevin takes Bob under his wing in the first episode and teaches him the ropes of being a were-chinchilla.
- Never just put the trope title and leave it at that.
- Wrong: Badass Adorable
- Right: Badass Adorable: Xavier, the group's cute little mascot, defeats three raging elephants with both hands tied behind his back using only an uncooked spaghetti noodle.
- When is normally far less important than How.
- A character name is not an explanation.
- Wrong: Full Moon Silhouette: Diana
- Right: Full Moon Silhouette: At the end of her transformation sequence into Moon Princess Misty, Diana is shown flying across the full moon riding a rutabaga.
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Edited by Synchronicity on Sep 18th 2023 at 11:42:55 AM
Showtime!
Took a closer look at that The Un-Favourite entry and it includes Horus as one of the unfavourites when Horus was the favoured son right up until the Antichrist shit happened so I'm definitely cutting it
Absolute destiny... apeachalypse?
On Characters.Hirogaru Sky Pretty Cure, there are a few examples of Entitled Bastard that I feel don't fit the trope at all.
Entitled Bastard means a jerkass or villain who does horrible things to other only to expect those they harmed to help them.
These are the examples I'm taking issue with:
Under Kaboton's folder:
- Entitled Bastard: Constantly belittles everyone and makes lofty claims which only benefit him.
Under Battamonda's folder:
- Entitled Bastard: Big time. His motivation against Sora was simply because she scared him shitless right after he had both cursed Elle's parents and almost got away with kidnapping Elle.
Would these fit the trope at all?
Also, the examples were added by Tropers.Valentine Meikin and Tropers.Cookieman, respectively.
Musician/Composer
On Characters.Star Wars Emperor Palpatine:
- Greater-Scope Villain: Of every single work in the franchise tied to the Skywalker Saga, which spans 67 years of stories in-universe, alongside some works set before the events of The Phantom Menace. While he's often behind everything that "transpires", occasionally things go wrong without his help. In these cases he usually lays back and waits for an opportunity to use these events to further his own agenda, especially in the Original Trilogy, where he doesn't have much of a role compared to Darth Vader and Tarkin.
- Several episodes of The Clone Wars deal with events and villains who operate outside of his plans, though they're all fundamentally thriving in a conflict he created and manipulated. A notable example is featured during the Umbara arc, where he entrusted Krell with taking over the leadership of the 501st from Anakin because he recognized that the Besalisk Jedi had fallen and was curious to see what he'd do. Another example is the Nightsisters and Brothers arc since aside from accidentally setting off the crisis of Darth Maul's return, he remains completely uninvolved in the events right up until Maul becomes an actual threat to his plans.
- The Bad Batch has his subordinates running things while he remains in the background as an overarching presence. Palatine's one in-person appearance, where he swiftly discards the Big Bad for the series up to that point then reverses the heroes' victory by twisting its narrative into public support for his plan without missing a beat, establish him as something FAR beyond what the heroes have any hope of directly contending against.
- He's barely present in the first three seasons of Rebels, aside from a HoloNet broadcast and a holographic conversation with Vader (and we don't even get to see his hologram), he's indirectly responsible for the Empire's actions and all the misery they've brought to the protagonists. By Season 2, he knows who they are and ordered Vader to deal with them. Season 4 spices things up by ending the series with a confrontation between him and Ezra, although Ezra later challenges and defeats Thrawn after the climax.
- He serves as this for most of the Original Trilogy. The Emperor is only mentioned in passing in A New Hope and appears in one scene as a hologram in The Empire Strikes Back to tell Vader to turn Luke to the dark side, though he outranks Darth Vader and Grand Moff Tarkin and is responsible for the paths they took. For the first half of Return of the Jedi, Jabba acted as the Big Bad whom the heroes had to defeat in order to rescue Han.
- He even serves as this trope posthumously in works set immediately after Return of the Jedi — specifically, the Aftermath trilogy and Shattered Empire. Palpatine operated on something of a Taking You with Me philosophy, and therefore had contingency plans for the Empire to wreak havoc on everybody in the event that he died.
- He seems to have become this retroactively for The Force Awakens, based on info from Empire's End. His contingency plan involved sending groups of handpicked Imperials into the Unknown Regions and possibly away from the galaxy, where they will establish a new empire elsewhere. This is what happened at the end of Empire's End, when Rae Sloane and Brendol Hux found Palpatine's personal Super Star Destroyer, the Eclipse, stationed in the Unknown Regions, and from there they proceed to found the First Order, the main antagonistic faction in The Force Awakens.
- In The Rise of Skywalker, he reveals to Kylo Ren that he had created Snoke. And thus making him this to the Sequel Trilogy too.
Palpatine/Darth Sidious: [to Kylo Ren] My boy, I made Snoke. I have been every voice [in his own voice] you have ever heard [in Snoke's voice] inside your head [in Vader's voice].
Given the character's involvement in the plot of Star Wars, does this entry count?
Edited by gjjones on Jul 11th 2023 at 11:02:51 AM
He/His/Him. No matter who you are, always Be Yourself.
Bumping this and this. I know it’s getting annoying but I would like more opinions on both of them.
CorruptedCharacterCopy.Fan Works
- Monster Chronicles: Cedric von Túfeice is a dark and more dangerous version of Dr. Facilier from The Princess and the Frog. Both of them made a deal with a loa for power, and both of them wore suits and hats. The difference is that Dr. Facilier is a Con Man looking to become rich, while he Hates Rich People and is looking to take all the souls of New Orleans, he's also looking to live comfortably as a rich man. Cedric, however, is a Serial Killer that loves to cause mass destruction; he is also a Misanthrope Supreme that is looking to end the world because of his hatred for humanity.
Can he really be a corrupted copy, if both are complete monsters.
Lovely Legilimens
Reposting from the previous page.
It's misuse.
Found this on The Adventures of Bottle Top Bill and His Best Friend Corky
- Germans Love David Hasselhoff: The show appears to be more popular in Brazil than in Australia or the rest of the English-speaking world - the show's Portuguese Wikipedia page is significantly more detailed than the English one, and, as of 12 March 2022, statistics reveal that Brazil has had the leading number of visits to the show's wiki over the past 30 days.
Putting aside the unnecessary use of bolding, is using the show's Wikipedia page an actual way of measuring popularity?
REALITY IS AN ILLUSION, THE UNIVERSE IS A HOLOGRAM, BUY GOLD BYEEEE! | She/Her
@ Greater-Scope Villain - no, the evil emperor to be defeated has been known since the first installment. He is the Big Bad, not the GSV.
@ Corrupted Character Copy - those just seem like two different types of bad people
@ Germans Love David Hasselhoff - Not necessarily, as that could just be the work of a couple dedicated campers. Sales, event attendance, anything that involves a large scale of fans are the usual metric
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I normally wouldnt be pushy about this but we already have a Germans Love David Hasselhoff thread. Please use it. Its almost deserted and I will help you out if you post there. There are almost no other posts and you are likelier to get help there.
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16835368600A14898200&page=2#42
For https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/YMMV/Chuggaaconroy:
- Questionable Casting: Episode 26 of the Pokémon Platinum LP has Tama Hero (then known as Tamashii Hirkora) guest star to show off some multiplayer features. This is in spite of Tama being well known for her vocal dislike of Sinnoh, having ranked Gen IV as the worst Pokémon generation as a result. Tama’s lack of enthusiasm throughout the video compounds this feeling, causing several viewers to question why she agreed to appear.
Edited by Mariofan99 on Jul 12th 2023 at 9:58:04 AM
YMMV.My Little Pony Equestria Girls Holidays Unwrapped
- Improved Second Attempt: The general consensus is that it is far more enjoyable than the infamous My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic (IDW) Holidays 2014 comic, thanks in no small part to forgoing the cyberbullying plot and instead focusing on the Christmas season and portraying it in a optimistic light. Case in point, there is Manic Expression's review on this movie.
This was previously deleted from Surprisingly Improved Sequel as not a sequel. I'm fuzzier on the limits of ISA but I still think this might be misuse as:
- The 2014 comic was about cyberbullying such that as Holidays Unwrapped doesn't take another crack at that, it's a completely separate story that just happens to also be set during the holidays.
- The comics had a 2015 Holiday Special which was better for the same reasons. Unwrapped seems less an example if it technically wasn't the second attempt, especially since it came from a different enough creative team the improvements seem coincidental rather than deliberate.
- I've never heard of that creator before so I don't think it's an overall representation of the fandom, whom I believe see Unwrapped as a completely separate thing rather than a second attempt.
My question comes down to the scope of ISA.
- How similar/connected do they have to be to be Second Attempts as opposed to separate stories with some shared aspects?
- If it is the third or higher attempt does it not count?
- Does it have to be seen as an intentional effort to improve on the source material as opposed to incidental?
Speaking of, do fanworks not have Improved Second Attempt examples because they're not licensed?
I mainly fix indentation issues
Other than the fact that they are both essentially a Christmas Episode, there doesn't seem to be much overlap between the two works. I say it doesn't count.
Edited by SoyValdo7 on Jul 12th 2023 at 8:36:00 AM
Valdo
Am I a weirdo?
I agree that doesn't actually seem like a second attempt.
That doesn't seem like it's casting. I'd say it's misuse.
Edited by CompletelyNormalGuy on Jul 12th 2023 at 7:41:06 AM
Bigotry will NEVER be welcome on TV Tropes.Bumping this and this yet again. I know it’s getting annoying but I would like more opinions on both of them.
Hello
Characters.Bang Dream Afterglow:
I'm not sure if Himari Uehara does fit the Genki Girl trope, seems like it was never editted in or out at any point according to page history, but considering some of these facts:
A plenty of websites that provide Bandori character profiles does describe Himari as quite cheerful.
, Character Introduction in season 2 of the video game, Episode 7 of Garupa PICO FEVER. Based on my guess, she doesn't play this straight (meaning it should not be listed), or might be downplayed (similar case with Hina Hikawa, in Characters.Bang Dream Pastel Palettes, who also does not list this trope). Any help on opinions? Everyone's got their unique qualities.
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
Genki Girl is not about being cheerful necessarily, it's about being hyperactive. A Genki Girl is fast, impulsive, emotional and wild.
Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure Pureness
I'm wondering if this list from the Mendoza folder on Hitman 3 is more an example of Continuity Nod than Continuity Cavalcade. From what I understand, the latter requires that a bunch of Continuity Nods happen back-to-back in a short span of time or simultaneously and these all happen over the course of an entire level it seems. Also, should this trope get its own page since it's so long? There are other examples of both CN and CC on the main page that could be moved as well.note
- Continuity Cavalcade: This level is filled with continuity nods, and it's bordering on Continuity Porn. The nods towards past events and people turn up in very unexpected places in the level too:
- To Hitman: Blood Money:
- The level takes heavy influence from the first sandbox level of Blood Money; "A Vintage Year", as 47 kills a white-suited old man on their South American vineyard during a public event (referring to Don Fernando Delgado), and even notes that this isn't his first visit to a winery ("A Vintage Year" is based around a winery in Chile).
- The Yates's marriage was in 2006, which is also when Blood Money first released.
- The phrase "A vintage year" is written on a sticky note as a clue for the wine freezer's vault passcode lock (1945).
- When going round the party for a second time, Tamara may ask if 47 killed Alvaro D'Alvade (Target of "Curtains Down" in Blood Money).
- To Hitman: Absolution:
- 47 narrates the Mission Stories in this level, as there's no handler to do so otherwise, something 47 did in the logs section of Absolution where he'd comment on a target or mission and how it affects him.
- Pointing a gun (or the camera) at Diana will make her comment about having Déjà vu, a reference to the start of the game where 47 shoots her as per Travis' request for her apparent betrayal of the ICA.
- When going round the party, Tamara will ask about Blake Dexter to Diana and she will instantly give a Cryptically Unhelpful Answer of either that it was a parallel universe or that it explains a lot.
- To Hitman (2016):
- You can run in front of the camera and Pam Kingsley in the car park as she's reporting on Vinedo Yates. You can do the same thing to another reporter back in Paris that's covering the Sanguine Fashion Show.
- One of the party planner waitresses on the phone will be surprised at the number of orders for the Bare-Knuckle Boxer at the party. This was the drink Viktor Novikov wanted back in Paris's "The Showstopper" mission, one you could make and poison him with.
- When walking around the party a second time, Vidal may ask if 47 killed Viktor Novikov and Dalia Margolis (the targets from "The Showstopper"), Nicholai Kamarov (The FSB chief whom Grey killed before the events of 2016 that was mounting a case against Novikov; Novikov subsequently hired Grey to kill him so the latter could get his hands on the IAGO Dossier), Dino Bosco (Target of "The Icon"), Craig Black (Primary target of "The Author" in the "Patient Zero" Campaign), and Richard Ekwensi (from "The Ex-Dictator").
- Helmut Kruger has a reservation on a table at the party. The man himself, sadly, does not appear, but according to Martin Ansdel (level designer for Mendoza) in this Discord conversation, there were plans to get Portman and Kruger to finally meet each other, but they ran out of character budget.
- One of Don Yates' guards used to work for Silvio Caruso and was aware that he kept hair and skin samples inside his safe.
- A man near the dance floor admits that he got Richard Ekwensi elected so Providence could use the South African Rhodium Mines he controlled.
- A pair of party guests talk about the murder mystery of Thornbridge Manor, and how one of them managed to get the author of the "Jack Sparta" novels to write up a dramatised book of events from the PI assigned to the case. The "Jack Sparta" novels are in reference to the "Nick Sparta" novels written by the school headmaster in Marrakesh; Shahin Abdul-Barr Maalouf, albeit with the name changed.
- The asado chef has a story about inviting multiple celebrities to a barbecue for a series he creates; among them being Craig Black (from "The Author" in the "Patient Zero" campaign), Jordan Cross (from "Club 27") and Viktor Novikov (from "The Showstopper"). They then explain that Novikov in particular didn't like his Hair-Trigger Temper being on display, and attempted to stall the production company for six months until it was all settled out of court. They also hang a lampshade on how all three are now dead.
- Dexy Barat returns, alongside Heidi Santoro, and both can be found on the upper courtyard of the vineyard talking about why they're there (The Class has a large Argentinian following and Monumental Records, the record label, wants them to be there).
- One method of killing Don involves using a Branson-MD2 microphone set to a high voltage when they make a dinner speech, the same microphone that could be used to kill Jordan Cross.
- Don Yates was the business partner of Ken Morgan, the "Club 27" mission's secondary target. He can also be pushed off a balcony by his wife during a confrontation, exactly like how Morgan could be by Jordan Cross.
- Yates’s fixer, Corvo Black, was initially mentioned by Ken Morgan in a phone conversation in Bangkok's "Club 27".
- After his speech and eating asado, Don Yates will mention Ken Morgans' death to a patron at the party, and then Valentina will mention that they had adopted Kens' dog, Pickles, when Ken died. If 47 holds Ken at gunpoint, he will mention Pickles as a bid to let 47 spare his life.
- One of the women seen dancing during the ball is Ellinor Westrup, the IAGO model that was Zaydan's Honey Trap girlfriend sent to spy on him from Marrakesh's "A Gilded Cage".
- Constructing the Bartoli on the workbench downstairs has 47 recite the mantra of "A place for everything, and everything in its place", a line said by both Sean Rose and Dr. Ito from Colorado and Hokkaido respectively.
- Disguising as a Providence member unlocks the challenge "The Hidden Hand"; in reference to what 47 says in the Colorado's storm shelter when describing Providence.
- To Hitman 2:
- After you kill Vidal, one party guest will talk about taking the position of Rupert Pierce, the head of Dynasty Global that was assassinated by Mr. Donovan on the order of Alma Reynard in Hawke's Bay. She mentions how he passed Mr. Donovan in the hallway on the day Rupert died.
- On the second loop round the party, Tamara will ask if 47 killed Mark Faba ("The Undying"; a disgraced MI6 agent who kept coming back from the dead, despite various confirmed ICA assassination attempts).
- Orson Mills is mentioned going rogue after the Militia disbanded, and after ETHER interrogates him, he becomes a Providence member. You next see him on the train in the final level.
- Rico Delgado and Andrea Martinez's assassinations are mentioned, and Hector Delgado is now in charge, now being referred to as "Mad Dog" by the patrons.
- The asado chef mentions being blindfolded at a party in the middle of the arctic sea, referring to the Isle of Sgàil and "The Ark Society" gathering. Seems that they were in charge of making food for its members, and apparently they had to barbecue while blindfolded, and mentions being blindfolded on the way in and out of the island; the only part of the story which isn't an unreasonable claim as it is a secretive and remote island, and the band on the island were blindfolded specifically for the purpose of keeping it a secret). The asado chef also mentions doing an episode of his TV series in a balloon with Blake Nathanial, a treasure hunter and adventurer from that level.
- Two party guests are talking about De Waal, ETHER'S CEO, being accidentally killed, and mentions his escape via Providence soldiers not long after the events of Mumbai. De Waall, understandably, gained PTSD from the whole experience. This is in reference to the hostage tape the Militia released before the events of Mumbai that Diana mentions in the briefing for "Chasing A Ghost"; you can even hear Pam give a reading of it on Mumbai's TVs.
- One party guest discussing the ICA data leak to his friend tells him to hire Agent Stone, and explicitly mentions his nose bandage ("Don't mention the nose!"). Agent Stone was one of the two multiplayer characters from the previous game's Sniper Assassin mode.
- If the sniping path is followed, Vidal will be in a conversation about how they'd like to die, and mentions that cold history has to happen, and she doesn't fret about the fallout, which has Diana say "It's a dangerous thing, having a conscious" in response, a direct quote from the last line said by Grey in the "Precautions" cinematic.
- Flowers and another wine keeper are musing about unlocking the 1945 Grand Paladin from the vault at Yate's request. He mentions the story of how Yates got his hands on it, and his description suggests the wine is extremely rare (as in, less than six bottle kind of rare), and they remember seeing logos for "The Ark Society" on the crate when it arrived, but were clueless to the details. Not only is this a reference to "The Ark Society", a doomsday club for the social elite, but said society collected potential art and historical pieces of culture of humankind's accomplishments for when the rapture hits — the implication here is that the Society has the remaining bottles back on the island.
- Two men near the asado pit discuss the deaths of Zoe and Sophia Washington from "The Ark Society", and how their father Byron Washington correctly believes they were killed in a plot to obtain the Constant. Blake Nathaniel is mentioned as a potential candidate for Chairman alongside Eddie Engelhorn, who was Janus' original pick.
- To Agent 47: Birth of the Hitman:
- When conversing with Tamara Vidal on the subject of Corvo Black, Diana will remark how they never took any of his contracts due to being a "nasty piece of work", and admits that her fellow colleagues were not as picky. While it's been implied in the games for a while now that ICA Handlers pick contracts based on more than just professional intuition, and often take out contracts they themselves may be invested in personally (even if it's not for personal gain); this is the first time the games have actually acknowledged this fact. This was first explicitly shown in issue 6 of the comic, where Robyn Gore chooses Diana's first contract to be a handler on: a hit on Franklin Marchand and Brickolage Technologies. Robyn knew Diana would take the contract as a similar company (Blue Seed Pharmaceuticals) ruined her life, and so would want to exact personal revenge.
- Disguising as Aron Ford Jr. (The lawyer outside the party) and then meeting with Don Yates to give him his case file filled with research done on Diana has 47 give a cliff notes introduction of their bio, in that she was orphaned when she was young and tried to fight back against Blue Seed pharmaceuticals with various exploits, and notes that her rap sheet is "quite extensive". He will then also rattle off two of the hits from the past two games (Whittleton Creek, then either Dubai, Sapienza, or Bangkok). Ford Jr. will also discuss all of the contracts against Providence (the aforementioned ones alongside Marrakesh, Hokkaido, Miami, Isle of Sgail, and Dartmoor).
- In the cutscene after the mission, Diana repeats similar sentiments from one of the last pages of the comic, about how she saw him as a blank page, and that she could use him however she saw fit. Here, Diana says she saw him as a blank slate and told herself that that's what you needed, and that people are not meant to be controlled, essentially bookending her statement from the comic.
- Miscellaneous:
- Disguising as the Wine expert and finishing the tour has 47 note that the security in the Barrel room prevents access to some of the more precious wines on display and that you'd have to be "the Sparrow" to get in. The Sparrow is the codename of Kalvin Ritter, who was a thief so notorious that the ICA made a training simulation based on one of his handoff events that functions as the tutorial for this and the past two games.
- On the first loop around the party, Tamara will recall all the Providence-affiliated targets, as well as Greys' Militia heads, that 47 killed in the trilogy, and notes Yates won't be happy about Ken Morgan's death.
- When going round the party for a second time, Tamara will ask if 47 killed Lord Winston Beldingford (Target of "Beldingford Manor" in Contracts).
- Once Tamara is eliminated, Diana will proceed to engage in friendly conversations with the other guests. One of them is Dolores Powell, an ex-ICA handler who was forced to leave after a disastrous contract. Her agent (Jaguar) thought it would be a good idea to try a 47-esque kill during a hit at a Christmas party, but managed to kill everyone but the target! This is a reference to Overachievers, a side story made in 2017 that is all about this exact event from the viewpoint of ICA Cleaners.
- To Hitman: Blood Money:
I wanted to know before I added it, could Sequel Gap be used for something that isn't a "media piece" in a sense? I wanted to add it to the Monster Cereals page, as Carmella Creeper is the first wholly new cereal in 35 years, so I was wondering if a non-media thing, rather an actual product, can count as a "sequel" in this sense.
the Retromancer
- Adaptation Displacement: Adam is strongly coded in European Catholicism despite originating among the Hebrews. He and Eve are blue-eyed blonds with pale skin rather than a more tawny color, his design makes several references to Renaissance-era artistic depictions of him (i.e. The Creation of Adam, his half-lidded eyes), and The soundtrack for his scenes in the anime incorporates choral and organ like in a traditional Latin mass.
This feels like a misuse of Adaptation Displacement and also isn't subjective. Is it Artistic License – Religion?
TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup
I don't think it would be artistic license religion either, adam is a christian figure aswell as a jewish figure and as the example itself says he's accurately referencing christian depictions, atleast visually.
Looks cutworthy to me
Friends forevermore
I recently added an example to VideoGame.NBA 2K, but I probably should have checked its validity here first because I'm not sure what Name Order Confusion is supposed to be once real people get involved. (The series consistently orders his name "Yao Ming" which is correct, but the menus use "YAO MING" as if Ming was his surname.)
- Name Order Confusion: Although the Announcer Chatter gets it right, the in-game menus tend to refer to Yao Ming as if Yao was his given name, not his surname.
Another repost, but a bit different.
- Contrasting Sequel Antagonist:
- She could be considered one to Toriel's Undertale counterpart. Both well-meaning maternal figures go to extreme lengths for what they think is best for those under their care, but while Toriel has traditional motherly mannerisms and could be considered old-fashioned in some areas, Queen speaks in a lot of modern technology-themed lingo and strongly follows a technological motif. Toriel's smothering nature only seems to extend to her children, while Queen seems big on smothering anyone under her rule. Toriel only chooses to fight you as a last resort to persuade you, and begins holding back to make sure you don't actually die from it, but Queen encourages fighting against her and actually intends to defeat you to execute her plans.
- Couldn't be more different from the King, being an Affably Evil goofball met at the start who periodically shows up throughout her Chapter as opposed to the King's No-Nonsense Nemesis who stays in the background until the end. Unlike the King, she's firmly an Anti-Villain; all of her actions were fueled by the belief that they would make Noelle (and by extension, all Lightners) happy, and even encourages her to do what she wants to do when she realizes Noelle won't find happiness just doing what she tells her to. The King was set on defending his fountain and lashed out at Lancer for befriending the Lightners. Queen had no idea about the disastrous consequences that would occur had more Fountains been created, and had only gone off of what she inferred from the Knight's actions. After it's sealed, she appoints herself Lancer's (un?)official mother and treats him well.
Contrasting Sequel Antagonist is about a sequel’s antagonist being different from the previous one. Since Deltarune is currently an incomplete game (being more or less a demo with 2 chapters) and the chapters are intertwined rather than being full blown sequels, I feel like the first bullet is valid while the second might be misuse.
YMMV.The Legend Of Heroes Trails Into Reverie that I’m unsure of:
- High-Tier Scrappy: Gaius is considered to be the best character of the game due to his S-Craft, "Howling Heavens", which inflicts "Absolute Delay" to all enemies in the field; that means delaying enemies will always work. He's very absurd that he can even solo the post-game content with the Abyss difficulty with the +100 levels to enemies modifier (though he can't solo the Final Boss as the final boss has three phases) with the proper equipment.
I remember someone on the Tier Induced Scrappy TRS that High-Tier Scrappy is exclusive to multiplayer games (like fighting games) since the player has to worry about getting their ass whopped by a powerful character. Reverie is single player throughout. So safe to remove?
Any thoughts on both of them and responses I made?
She/Her | Currently cleaning N/A
Does Beloved count as an example of Starring Smurfette? The main character is the only woman out of the six slaves at Sweet Home in the flashback sections (well not counting babies), though in the main timeline sections there are more women.
Car Fu: Its a stretch. I wouldn't count it, personally
Invisible Block: page description specifically says it does not require a way to make them visible, no
Murder by Cremation: Im ok with the bull example. its not quite central but its a clear variation
Edited by Tremmor19 on Jul 11th 2023 at 5:17:16 AM