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Mr. L is Luigi's shadow.
Coming off of watching MatPat's theory about Luigi being darker than we realize, this is the conclusion I've come to. In his video, Mat Pat points out that hypnosis (such as what Nastasia uses on Luigi) cannot make someone do anything they wouldn't otherwise do- it only removes inhibitions. He surmises that Mr. L is a part of Luigi that he seals deep within himself, and that all Nastasia had to do was to unleash him. So here's this troper's two cents.

Mr. L is a part of Luigi- the darkest part, the part that the poor lad in green hates to admit exists. He does truly love and care for Mario, but deep down, there's a part of him resentful towards his brother for always standing in the limelight, while he's eternally left in the shadows. It eats the poor guy up inside, and he does everything he can to deny those feelings- but, as Persona has taught us, that's never going to really solve the problem. Deep in Luigi's psyche, it created Mr. L, his shadow, who embodied all the things the man in green struggled to deny.

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Now this troper is imagining Luigi being threatened by Mr. L, needling him with all the things he doesn't want to acknowledge that he feels, until Luigi speaks those fateful words..... 'You're not me!'

  • There's a page on this very site that points out the flaw in Mat's argument - if Nastasia's hypnosis is "real" enough to only make people do things they're predisposed to doing already (as opposed to just being magic or video game logic that brainwashes them into doing anything she wants), then she shouldn't have been able to make Peach speak her wedding vows at the start of the game, something she was adamantly against doing until forced to.

Mario released all the Catch Cards after this adventure.
We joke, but he's still Mario.

Mushrooms are unable to withstand interdimensional travel!
This is the only Paper Mario game where healing mushrooms don't exist as carry-on items - similarly to how space food works, maybe travelling between dimensions renders mushrooms inedible and useless in terms of healing. This explains why they've all been replaced by vacuum-sealed Shroom Shakes, and the only ones that haven't are Dried, Poison, Life, and Ghost Shrooms, all of which don't heal you normally or have special attributes.

Castle Beck is actually the same castle the Tribe of Darkness lived in
Carson mentions that it's rumored that the Tribe of Darkness lived in a castle deep in a forest. After Blumiere became Count Bleck, he all but destroyed the dimension, killing everyone and making it the void-like place we see.
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  • This is disputed by dialogue claiming the castle is actually situated in the center of The Void itself. While it's possible the Tribe of Darkness could've been living in The Void all along before they were wiped out, it's unlikely any humans (like those from Timpani's village) would've done so alongside them.

Tippi is actually one of the original Pixls from Carson/Garson's stories.
Admittedly, I thought this might be better suited for the Fridge page, but there's no actual confirmation of it, so I'll just leave it here...In Carson/Garson's story about the Pixl Queen, it was mentioned that the Ancient who defeated her did so with the help of one of the 12 original Pixls, who was able to see through the illusions the Queen used to protect herself, which is just like how Tippi is able to sense and reveal invisible objects. Also, the story describes how the Pixl in question was damaged beyond repair after the battle - after Tippi falls unconscious, Merlon laments that her Pixl body can't sustain her for much longer. Since the creation of new Pixls was outlawed after the Queen was defeated, it's possible Merlon's only means of saving Timpani when she appeared in Flipside was by transferring her soul into the damaged remains of the Pixl from the story, which he happened to have on hand.

Dimentio isn't as dead as he seems.
Now hear me out here, This Troper isn't just in denial about their favorite character getting Killed Off for Real, but because his death scene, the way it's presented, doesn't make sense. Think about it: when Super Dimentio dies, Luigi gets ejected while Dimentio goes down with it. Except that Super Dimentio consisted primarily of Luigi as a vessel for the Chaos Heart's power. Dimentio just added himself in so that he'd be the one in control of that power (Luigi was already under his mind control at this point). So knowing that, wouldn't it logically be Dimentio who was ejected while Luigi fell alongside it? Not to mention that the particular manner in which Super Dimentio "died" was similar to how he "killed" the protagonists earlier.
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