- This would explain why he thought he could get away with controlling the Shadow Queen, he was used to controlling things stronger than himself. She just happened to be FAR stronger than he anticipated. Oh, and he didn't summon anything bigger than his Xs when facing Mario because 1) he underestimated the plumber and 2) if he called anything else he'd risk collapsing the Palace of Shadow.
- The X-Nauts were probably looking for a new home and intending to land close to the Mushroom Kingdom, but then Grodus got a good look at the place via orbital scans. Princesses getting kidnapped? Magic users on par with him? Plumbers stomping on every baddie in sight? Of course he'd decide the moon was a better place to prepare for a full invasion.
- At least he had more foresight than the Shroobs...
- They have the same basic design.
- Further supported by the fact that Queen Jaydes, mistress of The Underwhere (the Marioverse's Hell) follows along a similar design track, thus implying that the Shadow Queen is just one of the Underwhere's less scrupulous entities.
- Isn't this pretty much canon? The Shadow Sirens seemed to be sent out to make sure the Thousand Year Door was opened one way or another. (That's Beldam in the opening cutscene giving the map to Peach, by the way.)
- After their marriage they end up in a place with 'regular' (as close to it gets, anyway) looking trees and such. In the context of SPM, there is only one place that looks like this, the Mushroom Kingdom.
- Someone in the original Paper Mario mentions that Rowf's wife used to sell badges with him. Ms. Mowz in the sequel is a badge thief/salesmouse, and their names are somewhat similar.
- Probably ex-wife then.
- Similar sounding names? Faces look alike? Both inspire Nightmare Fuel? Do you see where I'm going with this?
- Those aren't rubees...She was a Homonculus who could shapeshift (a prototype of Envy?). And her true form is a monster, who spits red stones...
Mimi probably somehow got a Spy's disguise kit (or a Your Eternal Reward) and uses it all the friken time. My guess is she (somehow, for some reason) lived in the world where TF2 takes place and her 'father' (if she had one) taught her how to use the disguise kit, making her the first (or second

- When they are released, what do they do? They specifically cover the front of the screen, serving as a wall that blocks off everything except for Mario himself. In addition, they are the only characters who know that everyone is paper-thin, and how to use this knowledge to your advantage. Now, are they truly forced to keep up bad publicity, or is their "evil" nature a side effect of knowing too much?
- Possible, but it's unlikely their "evilness" was from insanity (at least insanity induced by meta-knowledge). My bet is that acting "evil" while laying the curse was a condition to breaking their own curse.
- Tippi somehow recognizes Dimentio when seeing him in Chapter 1. Dimentio was the assassin Blumiere's father sent after Timpani all that time ago. It's also sort of implied that Dimentio wrote the Dark Prognosticus.
- As it was never established what the Pure Hearts do, this is plausible. The Pure Hearts only suppressed the Chaos Heart.
- If so, when it was suppressed, it went straight to the only suitable host: Luigi.
- It follows that this will manifest as a Super-Powered Evil Side later on, and may in fact be responsible for his creepy Final Smash in Super Smash Bros. Brawl.
- If so, when it was suppressed, it went straight to the only suitable host: Luigi.
- Perhaps Doopliss was banished to the region to prevent him from spreading his sick pranks further across the land. Think about it...a demon who keeps his name secret for his most potent magic to work wouldn't write it down on himself, therefore Doopliss would never be able to use the Warp Pipe to leave. of course, once Mario exposed his name to get his identity back, Doopliss could freely write his name down and flee Twilight Town, and consequently he appears in later chapters.
- Look at Merlon's mustache. Those little circles at the bottom look suspiciously like fingers and his arms are never shown. His mustache also appears to move unnaturally most of the time.
- OK, he was insane, but he obviously opposed Count Bleck's plans about destroying all worlds. Yet, many say that, after his final defeat, he tried to destroy everything in a Taking You with Me attempt. Wrong: what is said is that he leaved a shadow behind him, so that it could control the Chaos Heart into destroying everything...I add, everything except the Heart and the shadow themselves. Then the shadow clone could have created an universe for himself and ensured his existance beyond the original's death. Basically: "I'll follow the Count's false plan...or at least another myself will."
- There's also the mindset of "If I can't rule the multiverse, then no one will", which would still equate to wanting to make the multiverse cease to exist. Besides, technically, he left a shadow of his power behind, not a shadow of himself, and it was also explicitly stated that it will last long enough to destroy all existence.
- Alright, since this is Wild Mass Guessing I made, I believe it to be true...Count Bleck mentioned that Dimentio left a shadow of himself. Shadoo is still alive and controlling the Chaos Heart! And why did Shadoo want to be the heroes of prophecy? Well, because he wanted to destroy everybody! And where is the real Dimentio? Somewhere in the Underwhere most likely...
- Also supported by Super Dimentio, who looks almost exactly like Dimentio.
- The game sort of implies this to be true...Then again, there are several pieces that imply a much, much deeper plot at hand. Dimentio is Merloo, the Ancient sage who is never mentioned outside of the stain-glass picture of him, which when tattled, says had similar abilities to Dimentio and was also involved in writing the Light Prognosticus. If this is the case, Dimentio wrote both books, plotting things to go exactly how he wanted for many years.
- I can believe that. Very plausible. But why would Dimento change his name?
- If Dimentio really is Merloo, then his entire plan would probably rely on changing his name. Merloo's depiction in the stain-glass picture indicates that he is a recognizable historical figure, meaning that anyone with knowledge about the Tribe of Ancients/Darkness would know exactly who he was once they heard his name. That includes Count Bleck. Dimentio's gambit relied on Bleck thinking of him as an Affably Evil fool, and that wouldn't have been possible if everyone knew Dimentio had written the Prognosticus.
- How else does he make it all the levels in the Pit of 100 Trials? And perhaps he got those rare badges by fighting in far away place...
- He probably knows alternative routes through the pit.
- She gives someone a look, a flash of red light appears, and they follow her orders. Sound familiar?
- Xel'lotath is a girl, dude. Unless you think he BECAME a girl after whatever his ultimate fate was at the end of Super Paper Mario.
- I'm surprised no one has come up with this one yet. Dimentio posesses strange powers dealing with other worlds, he's a manipulative bastard that subtly brings harm to every living creature, and behind the mask of sillyness his mind is completely alien. Perhaps Dimentio was yet another of Gnarlys many masks, sent to bring destruction and ruin to mankind.
- According to an interview with Miyamoto, Mario and Luigi only have one name.
- That and it was Grubba who came up with Great Gonzales as a name, not Mario.
This explains why you have an audience cheering you on in the battles - it really is all just happening on a stage, and "Star Power" is part of the gimmick to keep the audience involved.
- ...And Hooktail eating the audience?
- And for that matter, Cortez eating the audience's souls, Lord Crump sucking the audience into a giant mecha and using them as cannon ammo, and the Shadow Queen absorbing the audience into her own body.
- Don't worry...they all signed release forms.
- And it's all part of the show anyway. If you want, you're free to believe that nobody was hurt.
Incidentally, the end credits somewhat support this theory, since Flurrie is shown on stage with Mario in the theatrical reenactment of "his" quest.
- Not only that, but the first shadow in the credits is Luigi, not Mario.
- If I recall correctly the "Mario" on stage in the credits is actually Doopliss.
The prophecy never said anything about using the 'dark power', though, just being protected by it, which means that there is a third candidate. Considering the fact that the final battle presumably killed Dimentio, but did absolutely nothing to Luigi— who, logically, should have been hurt, since he played the role of 'host'— it's a distinct possibility that he was protected by the Chaos Heart, as per the prophecy. Of course, since he's still alive, one has to wonder about the void, too— hence the WMG.
- Considering the Void went away at the end, it may be that the Purity Heart will serve to keep it benign until Luigi dies on his own.
- Or it could still be Dimentio. Destroyed and killed are not really the same thing, and the Dark Prognosticus probably would have said "killed" if that's what it meant. That means that Dimentio will actually have to cease to exist entirely for the Void to collapse and vanish forever.
- If the series will still take the Darker and Edgier route, there will be an graveyard-esque level, (Not necessary one, but close to one) and one of the tombstones there would say something about the "Whacka" species being gone. and as an Continuity Nod, is you jump straight up from the tombstone, a hidden block will appear with an Whacka Bump.
- No tombstone, but there is indeed no Whacka in Paper Mario: Sticker Star.
- Is because when she was erased, she technically died and thus went to the overthere.
- Actually, Luvbi is the White Pure Heart. She wasn't erased, because we saw the Pure Hearts appear and stop the Chaos Heart. It's more likely that when the Void was stopped, Luvbi went back to the Overthere.


The reason she played favoritism with Marilyn was because one) she felt sorry for her. She couldn't talk and she was rather big, and so Beldam felt somewhat bad for her. And two) she needed her on her side. She was the strongest out of the Shadow Sirens - possibly one of the thee strongest - and Beldam knew if she mistreated her like she did with Vivian, which would've caused a Mistreatment-Induced Betrayal, this could've very well screwed her over.
The reason she worked so hard to revive the Shadow Queen was because of an inferiority complex. She felt that her only purpose in life was to serve the Shadow Queen. And she secretly felt inferior to her, so she may've been planning on becoming the next Shadow Queen over Vivian or something.
And the reason she was mean to Doopliss... was because she liked him. note
- Very likely, as he says he met Raphael the Raven once, long ago.
- In Paper Mario he is either the Magikoopa who follows Twink and attempts to ambush Mario at the end of the prologue chapter.
- Alternatively he is the Magikoopa who guards the switch in Bowser's Castle and commands the three Koopatrols.
- In Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door he is the Magikoopa who reports to Kammy Koopa that Princess Peach was captured by the X-Nauts.
- In Super Paper Mario he is the Magikoopa who stands at Bowser's side when he and his army prepare to invade Peach's Castle.
- Carson mentions in his story that the Ancient who took out the Pixl Queen was the inheritor of a Pixl who could "see the truth", and that that Pixl's power allowed him to see through the illusions cast by the queen. He also states that the Pixl was killed in the ensuing battle, and that as a result of the Pixl Queen's rise to power, the creation of all new Pixls was outlawed after her defeat.
- If this were true, Merlon couldn't have created a new Pixl to house Timpani's soul, not to mention, he probably wouldn't have known how - his only other option would be to use one that he already had on him.
- Merlon states at one point that Tippi's Pixl body doesn't have long to sustain her, which could work if it had been damaged during the battle against the Pixl Queen, leading to its original occupant's death.
- Tippi also has the power to see through illusions and glimpse invisible objects, just like the Pixl was said to.
- At the end of Super Paper Mario, at some point in time after becoming Super Dimentio, the jester used his powers to create an illusion where the heroes defeated him. In reality, he was doing this to give everybody a false sense of hope...So that he could crush it at the last minute. The truth is, he really did destroy all worlds. "But how" you may ask, "are there still Paper Mario games?" Well, after SPM, that's when the Paper Mario games got...iffy. cuter, cuddlier, funnier, less serious, and definitely less story-oriented. There was a radical shift in tone and plot that everyone is aware of, and none of the previous games are even mentioned at any point in time. Well, you know how Dimentio said that - after he erased every existing world - he'd replace them with "perfect" worlds? These are his worlds. First, a world themed around stickers, and then a world themed around colors. It fits with his silly personality a little, as well. He did this both to cause misery to Paper Mario fans after seeing how negatively they reacted to change in Super Paper Mario, and to destroy the unity of the four heroes by making Bowser the "villain" so as to create discord and enmity amidst the heroes and heroine. This is because not only are they are powerless unless in unity, but creating anarchy will obviously power something called the Chaos Heart. He doubled down on the story because he knew that if things got too complicated, then the characters would start to think more about their situation...Which could lead to them figuring out too much. And think about it - Where is Luigi in these games? Paper Luigi? In Sticker Star, he was a mere hidden extra, and not even as his paper self like the rest of the cast! But rather as his old 8-bit sprite from Super Mario Bros.. In Color Splash, he's mostly the same, albeit at least paper this time. And in Paper Jam, he only gets ONE cameo! All of these are also suspiciously mute...Almost as if Dimentio is not only trying to hide him, but also silenced him so that he couldn't tell Mario the truth of what was going on. Fortunately, Luigi's roles seem to be slowly growing. He had a cameos as an NES sprite in SS, appeared as his actual paper self in PJ (probably only to distinguish him from regular Luigi) albeit only in one cameo, but got upgraded back to several cameos again in CS. Maybe he'll eventually get an expanded role and reveal everything...? Oh, and this whole thing doesn't just apply to Paper Mario. Perhaps when Paper Jam happened, Dimentio gained control over the Mario & Luigi universe as well, and seeing Luigi - even if not his paper self - he panicked and stopped the M&L timeline from progressing after this crossover, which is why the only Mario & Luigi games following this one ever since have only been remakes. He's afraid that if time continues to flow after PJ, then Luigi will eventually notice that he has no paper counterpart which will have an undesirable domino effect for the now-almighty jester.
- That one seems to be jossed; the trailer for Paper Mario: The Origami King shows only the enemies (or variants thereof) that were in Sticker Star and Color Splash.
Alternatively, the hiding spot might've actually been the Moon all along - it IS featured on the map, after all. A third possibility would be that the Crystal Star never actually was hidden in the first place - it was always in Beldam's possession, and that's how the X-nauts managed to obtain it.