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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 16th 2023 at 5:37:57 PM

LenoreLynchfast Since: Nov, 2021 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#16126: Nov 28th 2021 at 12:15:09 PM

Here is another:

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For Emperor Lemon/Funny:

Edited by LenoreLynchfast on Nov 30th 2021 at 9:12:43 AM

Drago491 Kaiju Fanatic from Within this universe Since: Sep, 2019
Kaiju Fanatic
#16127: Nov 28th 2021 at 8:32:09 PM

Can Someone edit Ultraman Trigger, Awesome Page, for me as I have been suspended? Here is what I wished to add:

Episode 18 The clash between Trigger, Tiga, and Kyrieloid as both Tiga and Trigger work in perfect harmony tag-teaming by changing forms and performing finishing moves simultaneously to match up to and beat Kyrieloid.

Edited by Drago491 on Nov 28th 2021 at 4:33:32 PM

Melinda Since: Dec, 2019 Relationship Status: Puppy love
#16128: Nov 28th 2021 at 8:47:01 PM

@ Final Destination

  • Two moments in 3 stand out (although the first is only in an alternate version present in a Story Branching bonus feature on the DVD).
    • Ashlyn manages to escape from her burning tanning bed and saves Ashley from hers before the two girls get electrocuted anyway.
    • When Julie is simultaneously being dragged behind a horse and hanged (the rope is around her neck), Kevin grabs a sword that's being used as a fair prop and cuts the rope as the horse passes him, saving Julie.
@ Man of the City
  • Cheating Death: Those That Lived: Mizar and Bear (the first victors of District Nine and Eleven respectively) spend most of their lives devoting themselves to philanthropic efforts to help the poor and suffering in their district, as well as rebel activities meant to end their suffering and oppression at the hands of The Capitol. Due to his past as a ruthless bully, it takes a long time before Bear's neighbors appreciate his efforts, but Mizar is pretty beloved by his neighbors. Both of them also work hard to help and comfort the tributes under their care (although they are hardly unique in that respect).
  • The End of the World: In the years after winning the 2nd Quarter Quell, Haymitch seems to know most of the people in District 12 in the years after winning the 2nd Quarter Quell. He works hard to try and save his tributes and limit the amount of abuse that the Capitol heaps on District 12. However, this lessens a bit as he becomes more cynical and withdrawn later in the story.
  • Encanto: Alma and her magic helped the local village grow from nothing. She and her family use their magical gifts to keep the community safe and prosperous in the decades that follow (sometimes at the cost of their happiness) and are beloved by the townspeople in return.

@ Cheating Death: Those That Lived

  • The Hermit: Skinner lives alone on the outskirts of District Ten and prefers hunting Mutts to socializing with humans. Even after he wins the 69th Hunger Games, he only maintains a cursory presence in the victor's village and mostly goes back to being a hermit at his old haunts.
  • Hunting the Most Dangerous Game: Multiple chapters mention that a few wealthy Capitol thrill-seekers make a sport out of "district hunting," when they travel outside of the Capitol to hunt and kill citizens of the the Districts.
  • Senseless Sacrifice: Ron Stafford volunteers as tribute to save his brother during the 68th Hunger Games, and at that stage in the games, even if he wins, he'll be exposed to a lot of danger and hardship in the coming years even if he survives to be crowned victor. Minutes later, his brother is shot by a trigger-happy peacekeeper while approaching Ron to say goodbye. Ron is understandably distraught and bitter about this.

@ The Last of Sheila

  • Ms. Fanservice: Christine wears bikinis for a large amount of her screen time and has a good body for it.
@ Lights Out
  • Moe: Between his Extremely Protective Child moments toward mom, bonding moments with his older sister, and the scene where Becca finds him asleep in a bathtub with a flashlight in his first night away from the Haunted House, Martin inspires a lot of warmth and protectiveness.

@ The Man Who Knew Too Little

  • Blackmail Backfire: After learning their their plot due to pillow talk, Hooker with a Heart of Gold Lori is trying to blackmail Embleton and his fellow Spooks about their assassination plot. Predictably, they send an assassin to kill her, but she survives due to Wallace and the assassin accidentally getting each other's instructions.
  • Noble Top Enforcer: Soviet assassin Boris "The Butcher" (who works part-time as an actual butcher) shows a fair amount of respect for Wallace, treats his men well, and is unhappy about being told to kill people without knowing why. Eventually, he gets a Heel–Face Turn unlike his employers.
  • Screw This, I'm Outta Here: During the climax, Wallace has the bomb and seems poised to either discover it or prematurely detonate it in full view of the conspirators and dozens of VIPs. Defense Minister Embleton hurriedly flees the ballroom, to the frustration of his coconspirators.
  • What Happened to the Mouse?:
    • Wallace's sister-in-law Barbara is last seen when the police raid her house looking for Wallace. She is never shown reuniting with her husband, finding out what happened, or being released from custody.
    • Daggenhurst's aide Hawkins disappears during the climax and isn't present when his boss and Sergei get blown up.
@ The Three Musketeers (1973)
  • High-Heel–Face Turn: Milady's maid seems to be privy to her criminal scheming, but provides assistance and information to D'Artagnan after having sex with him.
  • Karma Houdini: The spy in Queen Anne's court who betrays Constance's hiding place in the second movie is never found out or punished.
  • Mean Boss: Milady slaps her maid for supposedly sleeping on duty, and later repeatedly hits her for taking too long to help Milady get out of a locked room.

@ 24 He's Just Hiding

  • Even Michelle has occasionally turned up alive in fan fiction stories, having survived her wounds and reuniting with Tony.

Edited by Melinda on Nov 29th 2021 at 7:28:34 AM

kawaiineko333 Since: Nov, 2010
#16129: Nov 28th 2021 at 9:05:01 PM

[up]Drago491

If you're looking to get your Ultraman edit noticed, you have to link the page as well like this.

Ultraman Trigger Ep 18: Smile Operation No. 1.

Minorica Rhythm Heroine from Earth Since: Dec, 2019 Relationship Status: It's so nice to be turned on again
Rhythm Heroine
#16130: Nov 29th 2021 at 6:08:57 AM

For NightmareFuel.Art Other:

Edited by Minorica on Dec 2nd 2021 at 10:00:17 PM

"No matter how bad the heroes can get or how bad the situation is, we're sure we can overcome it and get our happy endings..."
Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#16131: Nov 29th 2021 at 8:18:10 AM

From page 645 @ElJuaco

...Heather proposes that her teammates to not vote Gwen off after the Awakeathon' as...

Anne Maria accuses her of being a "cruddy leader" after the Killer Grips lose two...

^ Changed a verb from past tense to present tense as per How to Write an Example - Write in Historical Present Tense.

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#16132: Nov 29th 2021 at 8:34:33 AM

From page 645 @orrink

^ These are all Zero Context Examples because you don't say how the character(s) fit the trope.

Emmick is the more reasonable voice during the 12-hour interrogation, <- comma while...

The show is very specific to Washington D.C., <- comma but virtually all of it was shot in California.

Also, kindly let me know how to insert in the code for show titles and how long you recommend the entries be.

^ Work titles examples:

^ Length of entries: see How to Write an Example - Keep it Brief, ... But Not Too Brief, Cut Out the Cruft and Avoid Detail Bloat.

If I just list the names like Saved by the Bell or Heterosexual Life Partners is that sufficient?

^ It's sufficient for this thread, but I would format the work titles and trope names as they will appear in the example, as it's a good habit to get into.

Edited by Arivne on Nov 29th 2021 at 8:42:05 AM

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#16133: Nov 29th 2021 at 8:41:05 AM

[up] @Lenore Lynchfast

Mother of God, it's all toilet sounds!

...only for a horse's butt"HORSE'S ASS." "DELICIOUS!"

^ "Only for a horse's butt..." to do what?

Lightning falling into a canyon Wile E. Coyote-style.

Edited by Arivne on Nov 29th 2021 at 8:41:13 AM

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#16134: Nov 29th 2021 at 8:44:05 AM

[up] @Drago 491

...Trigger, Tiga, and Kyrieloid, <- comma as...tag-teaming Kyrieloid by...beat him.

Edited by Arivne on Nov 29th 2021 at 8:44:16 AM

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#16135: Nov 29th 2021 at 9:03:27 AM

[up] @Melinda

She is poised to swim to safety, <- comma before a car...

...is simultaneously being dragged behind a horse and angel (the rope is around her neck), <- comma Kevin...

^ If she's being being simultaneously dragged behind two things, it's being simultaneously dragged.

^ "..behind a horse and angel..." is not correct.

Mizar and Bear (the first victors of District Nine and Districts respectively) spend...

^ "of District Nine and Districts respectively" is not correct.

In the years after winning the 2nd Quarter Quell, Haymitch seems...District 12.

Christine wears bikinis for a large amount of her screen time <- no comma and...

Between his Extremely Protective Child moments toward mom...Haunted House, Martin inspires a lot of warmth and protectiveness. <- period

After learning about it due to pillow talk, Hooker with a Heart of Gold...their assassination plot.

...Boris "The Butcher" (who works part-time as...a Heel–Face Turn <- no comma like...

...hurriedly flees the ballroom, to the frustration of his co-conspirators. <- period

^ Did you mean to write something after this?

...and isn't present when his boss and Sergei get blown up.

Milady's maid seems to be privy to her criminal scheming, <- comma but provides...

...supposedly sleeping on duty, <- comma and later repeatedly does this to her...

Edited by Arivne on Nov 29th 2021 at 9:05:53 AM

Melinda Since: Dec, 2019 Relationship Status: Puppy love
#16136: Nov 29th 2021 at 9:07:20 AM

Thanks.

@ Cheating Death: Those That Lived

  • Heel–Face Turn: Several tributes in the Capitol Games start out as kids who've been fans of watching District kids kill each other for years and have few compunctions about committing murder to save themselves in the arena. However, several of them show better sides during the Games. Goldie's only act of violence in the Games is to nonfatally beat up someone who attacked her best friend Ponty. Ponty is moved by Cupid's appeal to pacifism when she reluctantly prepares to attack him and Melodie, and instead becomes their ally. Even Miles Templesmith, who starts out as a fairly unpleasant guy, spends his last moments warning Cupid to run for his life.
@ The Ninth Gate Impoverished Patrician
  • Victor Fargas is a proud and elegant man whose possessions are all expensive and fancy. However, as he freely admits, he doesn't have many of those possessions left (e.g. owning only a single set of wine glasses). His house also lacks any servants, and he's sold over a fifth of his proud library of rare books (which he calls his only reason for living) to pay the taxes on the mansion that he's too proud and sentimental to sell.
Fargas: [O]ld families are like old civilizations, they wither and die.

Edited by Melinda on Nov 30th 2021 at 7:36:18 AM

Melinda Since: Dec, 2019 Relationship Status: Puppy love
#16137: Nov 29th 2021 at 9:08:04 AM

I meant to say dragged behind a horse and hanged, not angel.

Edited by Melinda on Nov 29th 2021 at 9:12:56 AM

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#16138: Nov 29th 2021 at 9:18:00 AM

[up] @Minorica

In one picture, <- comma a...girl <- no comma and shel falls in love with him....girls bringing that spaceman to the...shows them killing him and eating him...All except one of them gather together and...love with him, cries...

Another picture has a schoolgirl listening to music on...classmate with a pair of scissors and stuffing her into...

...and murders a woman who attempts to call police offscreen.

^ If the murder occurs offscreen: Murders offscreen a woman who attempts to call police.

Edited by Arivne on Nov 29th 2021 at 9:18:45 AM

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#16139: Nov 29th 2021 at 9:21:03 AM

[up] @Melinda

...for years <- no comma and have few compunctions about committing murder...

Bullman "Cool. Coolcoolcool." Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
"Cool. Coolcoolcool."
#16140: Nov 29th 2021 at 9:59:34 AM

For Literature:

  • The Maze Runner has Newt, who is shipped with every character from the series. The most popular is him with Thomas, but he is also often shipped with Minho, Alby, Teresa, Brenda, and Gally, along with OT3 pairings with Thomas and Minho or Thomas and Teresa. He has even been shipped with Stiles from Teen Wolf.

For One True Threesome:

  • The Maze Runner has Thomas/Newt/Minho as its most popular threesome pairing with tons of fanfics for it. The three are the most popular characters, share lots of Ho Yay all around, and have great chemistry with each other. It is made up of three popular ships Thomas/Newt, Thomas/Minho, and Newt/Minho, and helps to avoid any shipping wars. Fans have also been known to either throw Teresa in or have her replace Minho.

Any corrections?

Edited by Bullman on Nov 29th 2021 at 12:00:52 PM

Fan-Preferred Couple cleanup thread
kawaiineko333 Since: Nov, 2010
#16141: Nov 29th 2021 at 10:09:18 AM

This is just a small addition to add to Dragalia Lost One Starry Dragonyule.

Theme Song: WON - Arikitari

Usually when an original event (that isn’t a repeat) in Dragalia Lost goes live and has a theme song, they usually place down the song's name.

ElJuaco Since: Aug, 2019
#16142: Nov 29th 2021 at 1:18:15 PM

Hi fellas. It's me again. Let's have another try.

Character tropes for Despair Island:

  • Adaptational Backstory Change: While it's implied in canon that Staci's stories about her ancestors may actually be true, here Staci's stories are confirmed to be nothing but lies.
  • Adaptational Nice Guy: His alternate personality Mal. Whereas the canon Mal was a Hate Sink, here he takes over Mike's mind after he suffers a mental breakdown due to Zoey's execution, targeting B, Scott and Sam because of their role in voting Zoey off and making Mike miserable.

orrink from Louisville Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
#16143: Nov 29th 2021 at 6:14:51 PM

For reference, this is my last entry

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=b9tcd2k65789p1pglrd92nvr&page=645#comment-16122

Unsupervised (2012):

Rasputinian Death: Reggie in the series finale. He gets hit by a car, attacked by a pack of rabid dogs, and electrocuted before finally dying from falling from the second story of a house.

Last Night in Soho (2021):

Eldritch Abomination-As Eloise descends further into madness, she sees more of these.

The Bully-Cami is pretty harsh to Eloise.

Promising Young Woman (2020):

Playing Drunk-The protagonist dangerously uses this methodology to teach amoral men a lesson.

Seven Pounds (2008):

Secretly Dying-In Ben's case, it's both to the audience (for those who didn't view the trailer) and the people in-universe

Kate (2021):

Rasputinian Death-In this case, it's done so that the plot can be prolonged through an extra two or three climaxes.

Mutual Kill-Although in Kate's case, she comes out on top knowing she's going to die anyway.

Will (2017): Ho Yay-Marlowe exhibits a lot of this in many of his interactions with people, particularly when he attempts to be intimidating to rival males.

Brigadoon (1955): Townwitha Dark Secret-Although the blessing/curse is not an inherently dark thing, the town makes an effort to keep it secret from the two visitors.

Blow the Man Down (2020): Townwitha Dark Secret-The brothel in this idyllic harbor town of Maine is certainly something that the elderly ladies don't want Priscilla and Mary Beth about.

Princess Bride (1987): Minion with an F in Evil-Although Fezzik is intelligent in other ways, he's certainly not very good at doing Vizzini's bidding.

Edited by orrink on Nov 29th 2021 at 9:15:28 AM

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Melinda Since: Dec, 2019 Relationship Status: Puppy love
#16144: Nov 29th 2021 at 8:28:03 PM

@ News of the World

  • Race Lift: Almay's two companions are Native Americans in the book but are white men in the movie.
@ Black Tide Rising Take That!
  • Liberation Day (which was written in 2019 or 2020) features a Jerkass Conspiracy Theorist who won't take the zombie vaccine even though this is putting the whole community at risk. Eventually, his exasperated neighbors physically hold him down while he gets vaccinated. The scene is a pretty blatant criticism of people who won't get vaccinated against COVID-19.
@ Dead Before Dawn
  • Bait-and-Switch Comment: At the end of the movie, Jerk Jock Patrick tells two girls that he's not interested in having a threesome with them anymore. Then he clarifies that he's asking them to join him in a foursome instead.
  • Pom-Pom Girl: The Eagles cheerleading team are portrayed as being heavily invested in their team and during the championship game, they all turn and lift up their skirts at the opposing team (the Wildcats) while wearing Goofy Print Underwear that says "Wildcats suck." Lucy, the only cheerleader to have a name and significant role, is a Brainless Beauty, but doesn't go out of her way to be mean. While she reacts with disgust and annoyance when Cool Loser Seth crudely hits on her, she reacts the same way toward Handsome Lech and Jerk Jock Patrick later on.
@ Pom-Pom Girl
  • 1632: In an early scene, the Grantville High cheerleaders chant to welcome the Scottish cavalrymen, and a few of them have more prominent roles later on.
    • Julie Simms becomes the series' premier Friendly Sniper by the time she turns 20.
    • Missy Jenkins becomes a librarian and marries the son of the local stoner.
    She hadn't really been a ditz, he now realized. That had just been his prejudices at war. She'd been a cheerleader because everyone expected Chip Jenkins' sister to be one. She'd been one of those four girls every squad needs. The indispensable ones who made up the base of the pyramid. The one who held up six perky, bouncy girls. Without wobbling.

Edited by Melinda on Nov 30th 2021 at 7:43:31 AM

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#16145: Nov 30th 2021 at 7:24:36 AM

[up] @Melinda

...man whose possessions...possessions left (e.g. owning only a single set of wine glasses).

Lucy...field, is a Brainless Beauty, but doesn't go out of her way to be mean. While she reacts...

^ "field" is not correct.

In an early scene, the Grantville...cavalrymen, <- comma and...later on. <- period

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#16146: Nov 30th 2021 at 7:28:26 AM

[up] @Bullman

The Maze Runner has Newt, who is shipped with every other character in the series.

^ Presumably he isn't shipped with himself.

The Maze Runner has Thomas/Newt/Minho as its most popular threesome pairing, <- comma with...three popular ships: <- colon Thomas/Newt...

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#16147: Nov 30th 2021 at 7:31:30 AM

[up] @El Juaco

Whereas the canon Mal is a Hate Sink...

^ Changed a verb from past tense to present tense as per How to Write an Example - Write in Historical Present Tense.

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#16148: Nov 30th 2021 at 8:01:08 AM

[up] @orrink

  • Eldritch Abomination: <- colon As Eloise descends further into madness, she sees more of these.
  • Playing Drunk: <- colon The protagonist dangerously uses this methodology to teach amoral men a lesson.
  • Secretly Dying: <- colon In Ben's case, it's both to the audience (for those who didn't view the trailer) and the people in-universe. <- period
  • Rasputinian Death: <- colon In this case, it's done so that the plot can be prolonged through an extra two or three climaxes.
  • Mutual Kill: <- colon Although in Kate's case, she comes out on top knowing she's going to die anyway.
  • Ho Yay: <- colon Marlowe exhibits a lot of this in many of his interactions with people, particularly when he attempts to be intimidating to rival males.

^ More Zero Context Examples.

^ Any time you're tempted to say things like "more of these", "this methodology", "it's done", "exhibits a lot of this" or anything like that, please don't. Always explain.

^ Changed your dashes to colons (again) because that's the standard formatting followed on almost all TV Tropes pages. You also need to put a space between a colon (or dash) and the following word.

Since you are determined to write Zero Context Examples and use dashes instead of colons even though I have advised you not to, I will not be commenting on them in the future. I will only say that adding Zero Context Examples to an existing TV Tropes page (like a trope or work page) is considered to be a serious rules violation that could cause the moderators to suspend you from editing.

Edited by Arivne on Nov 30th 2021 at 8:03:03 AM

Bullman "Cool. Coolcoolcool." Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
ElJuaco Since: Aug, 2019
#16150: Nov 30th 2021 at 8:55:59 AM

Hi fellas. It's me again. Let's have another try.

Character tropes for Despair Island:

  • Nice Mean And In Between: The between to Sam's nice and Scott's mean.
  • With Friends Like These...: Despite helping out Sam with his depression, B is less willing to console him when Sam's depression returns following Zoey's execution due to having made it too far in the game.
  • Nice Mean And In Between: The nice to Scott's mean and B's between.
  • Nice Mean And In Between: The mean to Sam's nice and B's between.
  • With Friends Like These...: Despite joining Sam and B in an alliance, Scott doesn't seem interested in helping Sam out with his depression folowing Zoey's execution and makes things worse with his negativity and jerkassery, even convincing Mal to eliminate Sam to ensure his own survival.
  • Morality Chain: She's this towards Mike, but it's not exactly prevalent until she dies, as her death leads Mike's alternate personality Mal to resurface and target anyone involved in Zoey's execution for making Mike miserable.


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