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GastonRabbit Sounds good on paper (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
#1: Jan 15th 2023 at 8:46:50 AM

'Note: This thread was proposed by Azorius 24.

I'm reasonably convinced that this page is an X-rated Chair. The page is almost entirely descriptive, and contains absolutely no commentary on characterisation or narrative related issues. Much in the same way that we don't have the page "Strippers Exist", we shouldn't need "Cam Girls Exist".

The wick check did find that the vast majority of examples (36/50) were correct usage of the trope... But this isn’t the problem, as the definition is such that the borderline-ZCE "this character is a cam girl" is valid.

Oh, and the page was also created by now-permabanned troper JIKTV. I don't happen to know what they were banned for but the last page I sent to TRS had an author who had been booted for persistently creating low quality trope pages.


Potential solutions:

  • Cut trope entirely.
  • Rewrite to add tropeworthy content, which might be possible.

Wick check:

This page will cover a wick check for the trope Cam Whore.

Progress: 50/50.

Why?: I am reasonably confident that this trope is an X-rated Chair: there appears to be nothing more to it beyond "cam girls exist" with little mention of narrative or characterisation relevance.

Comments in bold.


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     Character is a cam girl (36/50) 
  • America's Next Top Model: Subverted with Cycle 12 and Cycle 17's Allison Harvard aka "Creepy-chan" (one of 4Chan's favorite "chan girls"). Her popularity on 4Chan was never acknowledged on the show. Ascended Meme entry sub-bullet
  • Yours Trudy: She posts saucy pictures and videos of herself on WhoaMeFans (An Expy of OnlyFans) for income before the sites terms of service changed too much to prevent that as a viable source of income, much like its real-life counterpart, and she got a job in a pancake restaurant. In folder for Sandra Tang
  • The Girl in 6E: It's how she makes a fair share of money without leaving her apartment.'
  • Contractual Purity: Zig-zagged on RuPaul's Drag Race. While it doesn't matter if a contestant acted in porn before appearing on the show, contestants are forbidden from doing so afterwards for as long as they're under the Drag Race contract (usually a period of five years since their last appearance on the show). Canada Season 1 contestant Ilona Varley spoke candidely about becoming homeless during the Covid pandemic when she couldn't perform onstage yet wasn't allowed to run an OnlyFans page for income.
  • Waiting for a Break: In addition to working as a waitress, Alice has a gig as a stripper, Cam Whore, phone-sex operator, or prostitute. Sub-bullet under Exaggerated
  • Nerf NOW!!: Anne-Marie does this to get a game for free and embezzle the money that Jo gave her to buy it.
  • Unproblematic Prostitution: Alice is a Cam Whore or phone sex worker, and thus never has any actual contact with her clients. A sub-bullet under Exaggerated, again
  • Summertime Saga: She makes a living as a web creator, providing sexual content for money. Entry for Jenny under "The MC's home and immediate circle"
  • Vlog: Brooke. She makes all of her vlog posts in her lingerie in order to attract subscribers, and even refers to herself as a 'cam girl' at one point.
  • EVERY SIMS MACHINIMA EVER (Parody): Downplayed with Ella's mother after her husband dies. She looks sexy while gaming so guys on Twitch will donate money.
  • The Boys (2019): Supes: The once famous supe now earns her money doing private webcam shows in the style of OnlyFans. In folder for Crimson Countess
  • Vampire: The Masquerade – Coteries of New York: Hope operates a cam show where she performs vampire stunts instead of sexual content to entertain her loyal audience. The player character will note that this is a flagrant breach of the Masquerade, but Hope doesn't seem to care much about the risk of severe punishment. That's because the show isn't actually being streamed to the internet, and Hope is playing the parts of all the audience members. In folder for Hope
  • Shameless Fanservice Girl: Nerf NOW!!: Anne-Marie is a shameless Cam Whore who is quick to resort to fanservice or show skin for money.
  • Devil Survivor: First introduced by Atsuro as a "famous camgirl." In folder for Midori
  • Deep Space Waifu: One of the girls in the original, Arouse-Chan, whose final layers of clothing are actually donation bars that need to be shot to fill up.
  • Ballad of a Sex Worker: While prostitutes are the most common subject for this song, it can also be about a stripper, Cam Whore, dominatrix, etc.
  • Disposable Sex Worker: Bob murders Alice, a phone-sex operator or Cam Whore. Sub-bullet under Exaggerated
  • Crow Cillers The two make money doing, um, photoshoots where their guts are being eaten while they act out ridiculous scenarios. Their feelings on this are mixed. In folder for Sour Gummy
  • The Internet Is for Porn: Projekt Melody is a Virtual Youtuber whose very existence is the result of this trope. Being infected with a "sexy porn virus" back when she was a simple mail-sorting AI. Considering all of this and her "other job", she also unsurprisingly subscribes to this belief, claiming "The internet is amazing!".
  • Nerf NOW!!: Pretty much her schtick. In folder for Anne-Marie.
  • Digimon V-Tamer 01: She implies that she regularly did a toned-down version of this on the internet before being recruited by Neo. 'In folder for Mari.
  • Fate/Grand Carnival: Pyrrhic Victory: Osakabehime and Ereshkigal start a popularity contest as You- sorry, Servatubers. They are pretty evenly matched for most of it, until Okkie brings out her trump card: she pulls out her swimsuit and starts camwhoring. She wins the contest, and promptly gets her channel banned.
  • Euphoria: After Roy and Troy circulate the video of her losing her virginity, she successfully becomes one to make money. In folder for Kat.
  • Bosch S 3 E 04: Sharkey's mom does this for a living.
  • Will & Grace: Downplayed. She really wants to have a baby and only works as a webcam girl until someone puts a baby in her. In folder for Jenny.
  • Ingrid the Plague Doctor: Issue #113, "Donations", shows that E-Leech is a toned-down version, while contrasting her with a more stereotypical example.
  • Parental Sexuality Squick: Bob learns that his mother used to do porn before he came along, or even does cam shows or answers for an adult phone chat line now to supplement the household income. He has her murdered for it.
  • Bound For New Horizons: Uses OnlyFans to help her with living expenses. (Rulue)
  • Popularity Polynomial: ...It's still by no means the porn industry's primary product, but with different studios sometimes rushing to get out their own parody first (Game of Thrones alone has five or more) and more independent content creators than ever also releasing cosplay content, it's clearly back on the ascendancy. Entry regarding porn parodies.
  • American Vandal: Mackenzie not only runs a successful Twitch channel, but exposes herself on there, although whether money is involved in these transactions is not really clear.
  • Louis Theroux: Louis visited a camgirl as part of his documentary Twilight of the Porn Stars. The girl in question (Kagney Linn Karter) was also a porn starlet who appeared in conventionally distributed adult films, which is a pretty common form of crossover in the industry.
  • BoxxyQuest: The Shifted Spires: The name of what's effectively harpies is Camwhore. The ones that are fought can't be talked to, but there's one living in Skype that's friendly.
  • Drag Race España Season 2: Two valid references in folder for Juriji Der Klee.
  • Spinnerette Villains: After she turns 18, she becomes a camgirl with a sizable following... and Heather Brown is one of her patrons — ostensibly just to keep tabs on her. Alexis takes a moment to flirtatiously mock Spinnerette when she shows up for an autograph acting like a tsundere. Folder for "Evil Spinnerette"
  • Joe vs. Elan School This is the fate of a girl who'd arrived at Elan 8 at about the same time as Joe. A few years after Joe leaves Elan, someone on an Elan forum links to a porn video of the girl stripping, and Joe recognizes her. Joe is immediately saddened and disgusted, and angrily calls out the other forum members for exploiting her and making fun of her. Elan Inmates — In General
  • G.I.R.L.: Based on the belief that There Are No Girls on the Internet. Some forums, particularly male-dominated ones, will be the victim of a special breed of Troll who will pretend to be a girl just to rile up the boy nerds in the community. They display obvious Cam Whore traits and may even steal photos of attractive girls off MySpace or Facebook and claim that they are them.

     Character makes money off sultry pictures of themselves (2/50) 
  • Degrassi The Next Generation Season 9 Graduates: In Eyes Without A Face, she took racy photos for a guy online with Peter for money for uniforms and general attention. 'In folder for Darcy
  • Model Shop: Possibly the Ur-Example of a trope more commonly associated with the internet. Gorgeous women pose for creepy dudes who take their pictures.
     Cam girls are involved in some other way (1/50) 
     Indexes (3/50) 
     ZCE & misuse (9/50)  

Edited by GastonRabbit on Jan 20th 2023 at 3:59:58 AM

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GastonRabbit Sounds good on paper (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
#2: Jan 15th 2023 at 8:47:12 AM

Paging ~Azorius 24 to the thread. Anyway, I think I'd rather cut this.

Edit: Hold on, with that many inbounds, we might have to redirect or disambiguate this. Maybe we could redirect it to The Oldest Profession or Show Business (both being indexes it's on); leaning toward the latter. Still, I'm in favor of deprecating it either way.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Jan 15th 2023 at 10:50:20 AM

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MadAboutLove97 Since: Jul, 2019 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
#3: Jan 15th 2023 at 8:53:56 AM

I think making it a redirect to The Oldest Profession makes sense since cam girls are online prostitutes.

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Amonimus the Retromancer from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the Retromancer
#5: Jan 15th 2023 at 9:23:16 AM

Would this be a modernized Intimate Telecommunications?

As for tropeworthiness, it kinda feels like it could be a trope if some other aspect was added. Like similar to Compensated Dating someone having a secret income by selling photos/videos of themselves.

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Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#6: Jan 15th 2023 at 10:05:35 AM

I think I've seen that too, built around online prostitution just being less regulated on the whole. Secret Sex Worker maybe doesn't need to be cam/only fans exclusive, though, IIRC Euphoria is a recent work that did it the old fashioned way.

[tup] to cutting in the meantime.

Edited by Synchronicity on Jan 15th 2023 at 12:07:41 PM

BlackMage43 Since: Jun, 2014 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
#7: Jan 15th 2023 at 10:39:40 AM

[tup] To either redirect to The Oldest Profession or disambiguate with other tropes.

Azorius24 Accumulating Filibuster Counters from the Office of Naval Intelligence Sword Base (Troper Journeyman) Relationship Status: Non-Canon
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#8: Jan 15th 2023 at 2:42:29 PM

[up][up][up] I did feel that there could be a trope here, but at present it's a straight-up Chair, and isn't exactly saturated with examples either.

Disambiguating would make sense, I think, though I would also suggest adding Attention Whore to the list, as it has been confused with this trope, due to being a possible literal interpretation.

Edited by Azorius24 on Jan 15th 2023 at 11:58:44 AM

"The only thing which is certain, is that something will happen".
selkies Professional Wick Checker Since: Jan, 2021 Relationship Status: Star-crossed
Professional Wick Checker
Amonimus the Retromancer from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the Retromancer
#10: Jan 15th 2023 at 3:59:43 PM

Camera Fiend for disambig for same reasom as Attention Whore?

Edited by Amonimus on Jan 15th 2023 at 3:00:10 PM

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amathieu13 Since: Aug, 2013
#11: Jan 15th 2023 at 6:17:21 PM

one idea that might make this tropeworthy is "Secret Cam Girl", i.e. a character is a cam girl/boy in private and keeps that fact from their friends and families out of shame/knowing it'd be disapproved of. I've seen versions of this idea with prostitution and escort services, but the fact that 1) you don't have to engage in sex with a stranger if you don't want to, 2) camming doesn't even require the person to expose themselves or their identity, 3) all you need is a camera which most phones and laptops/tablets have nowawadays seems to make it somewhat distinct. I think Kat from Euphoria would be an example.

That said, since there are few examples like that i'm fine with disambig-ing or redirecting and yarding the above concept.

Edited by amathieu13 on Jan 15th 2023 at 9:18:09 AM

Azorius24 Accumulating Filibuster Counters from the Office of Naval Intelligence Sword Base (Troper Journeyman) Relationship Status: Non-Canon
Accumulating Filibuster Counters
#12: Jan 15th 2023 at 11:52:14 PM

It would need to be created from scratch essentially, so yarding makes sense.

"The only thing which is certain, is that something will happen".
MorganWick (Elder Troper)
#13: Jan 16th 2023 at 12:21:50 AM

If the trope were about fictional depictions of this sort of thing and the attitude fiction has towards it (I would have expected a term with the word "whore" in it to be pejorative), it might be worthy of staying on the wiki. As it stands it's practically written like a Useful Notes, except it would need to be substantially rewritten to be a Useful Note (for one thing, I don't think we should be using "Cam Whore" as the neutral, descriptive name for it - see previous parenthetical - and I think I see "Cam Girl" as more common), to the point of possibly not being worth it.

Yindee Just stoic wisdom. from New England Since: Jul, 2016
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#14: Jan 16th 2023 at 8:47:34 AM

[up] Agree that if something gets salvaged of this, to go with the name Cam Girl.

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#15: Jan 17th 2023 at 7:17:23 AM

+1 to redirect to The Oldest Profession and yard the concept in 11.

GastonRabbit MOD Sounds good on paper (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
#16: Jan 17th 2023 at 11:23:08 PM

Hooked a crowner so we can get this one out of the way.

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GastonRabbit MOD Sounds good on paper (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
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#17: Jan 19th 2023 at 11:39:53 PM

Calling in favor of redirecting to The Oldest Profession. I'll take care of that so dewicking can be done soon.

Edit: Done. Not too many wicks to take care of.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Jan 19th 2023 at 1:42:50 PM

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GastonRabbit Sounds good on paper (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
#18: Jan 20th 2023 at 2:23:11 AM

Done here, so locking up.

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Trope Repair Shop: Cam Whore
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There are concerns that Cam Whore is not a trope. What should be done with it?

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