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The Silmarillion and The Saga of the Exiles are redundant subsets of the Tolkiens Legendarium and the Galactic Milieu entries respectively. Could be merged/eliminated.

To be revised for the new system

• Chronicles Of Amber
  • Type -1: Pretty much all shadow-dwellers and chaosites
  • Type 2: Corwin, Amberites in general
  • Type 3: Oberon, Brand, Merlin, Benedict
  • Type 4: Dworkin, Ghostwheel
  • Type 5: The Pattern, The Logrus, The Unicorn

• The Chronicles of Prydain
  • Type -1: Taran (In Book 1), Gurgi, Prince Rhun, Glew
  • Type 0: Aeddan, Llassar, Llonio, other peasantry of Prydain
  • Type 1: Taran (starting in Book 4), Coll, Fflewddur Fflam, King Smoit, Ellidyr, Adaon, Most Kings and War leaders
  • Type 2: Gwydion, Eilonwy, Achren, The Horned King, Medwyn, Doli and other Fair Folk, The Cauldron-Born, The Huntsmen of Annuvin, Morda, Adaon, Taran with Adaon's brooch in Book 2 and with Dyrnwyn in Book 5.
  • Type 3: Arawn Death-Lord, Dallben
  • Type 4: Orddu, Orwen, and Orgoch, Gwyn the Hunter

• The Chronicles Of The Kencyrath
  • Type -1: Most Highborn women, especially Lyra
  • Type 0: Kendar artisans and laborers, most Mooks, most ordinary humans
  • Type 1: Thieves' Guild Thieves, most Kencyr and Wasters, Merikit warriors
  • Type 2: Most Shanir and Highborn lords, wolvers, Jame (can go up to Type 3 in a bad mood), Torisen, Kindrie, Shade, Brenwyr, Bane.
  • Type 3: Arrin-ken, Tai-tastigon godlings, Darkling Changers, Rawneth, Jamethiel Dream-weaver, Gerridon (might actually be a Type 4- not much has been revealed about his abilities so far, other than that he's very powerful)
  • Type 4: The Four (Earth Wife, Burnt Man, Falling Man, and Eaten One), the River Snake, potentially Jame, Torisen, and Kindrie, if/when they realize their destiny as the Tyr-ridan
  • Type 5: The Three-Faced God, Perimal Darkling

• The Chronicles Of Thomas Covenant
  • Type -1: Covenant in the real world, the jheherrin
  • Type 0: The Land's humans, Cavewights
  • Type 1: Haruchai, ur-viles, ordinary Giants
  • Type 2: Giants with battle training, Bloodguard-grade Haruchai, ur-vile loremasters on their own, gravilingases and lillianrills
  • Type 3: Lords, ur-vile loremasters at full power, Ravers, Kasreyn, Insequent, Drool Rockworm, Sandgorgons
  • Type 4: Covenant with White Gold, Lord Foul bound, Elohim
  • Type 5: The Creator, the Worm of World's End, Lord Foul unbound

• Codex Alera
  • Type -1: Tavi in the first book
  • Type 0: Ordinary Aleran holders and Canim Makers, Vord wax spiders
  • Type 1: Aleran legionares, Canim raiders, Marat, Vord warriors, Tavi in books 2-3, Ehren the Scribe.
  • Type 2: Knight-level Aleran crafters, Canim warriors and ritualists, Vordknights and immature Vord Queens, Tavi in books 4-5, Kitai, Maximus Antillar (High Lord-class in most areas, but with several lame areas).
  • Type 3: High-blood Alerans, mature Vord Queens, Tavi in book 6
  • Type 4: Great Furies, the original Vord Queen, Alera

• The Cornerstone
  • Type 0: Max pre Wordsmith, ordinary humans
  • Type 1: Most Chapter Wordsmiths
  • Type 2: Imelda Harrington, Merelie, Chapter Lords
  • Type 3: Max post Wordsmith, Possessed people.
  • Type 5: The Writer

• The Dark Tower series
  • Type -1: Oy
  • Type 0: Jake, Eddie, Susannah (at first)
  • Type 1: Roland, Jake, Eddie, Susannah (after some time spent in Mid-World)
  • Type 2: The Breakers
  • Type 3: The Man In Black*
    a.k.a. Randall Flagg
    ]], Mordred Deschain
  • Type 4: The Crimson King*
    well, allegedly; sadly, by the time he actually appears in the books, he's been reduced to a gibbering lunatic, more comical than menacing
    ]]
  • Type 5: Stephen King, The Dark Tower, Gan*
    assuming the two aren't one and the same
    ]]]]

• Death Gate Cycle
  • Type -1: Cadavers, Gegs
  • Type 0: Mensch
  • Type 1: Hugh the Hand, the Unseen Guard, ordinary mensch wizards
  • Type 2: Most Sartan and Patryns, most Labyrinth monsters, mysteriarchs
  • Type 3: Lord Xar, Haplo, Samah, Alfred, lazar, common dragons, tytans
  • Type 4: True dragons, blood dragons, serpents, the Labyrinth itself
  • Type 5: The cosmic balance

• The Discworld
  • Type -1: Twoflower, those with the lowest social status just about anywhere
  • Type 0: Rincewind, Brutha, Colon and Nobby
  • Type 1: Sam Vimes, Captain Carrot, Cohen the Barbarian, the Librarian
  • Type 2: Most competent witches and wizards, Susan Sto Helit, elves, typical vampires, zombies, werewolves and banshees, lesser anthropomorphic personifications
  • Type 3: Esmerelda Weatherwax, and presumably Nanny Ogg (as the most powerful witch in the world), most gods, the Queen of Elves, noble dragons
  • Type 4: Death, serious gods (Fate and The Lady), Sourcerers, the Creator(s); the Auditors of Reality
  • Type 5: Azrael and the other Old High Ones

• Dragaera
  • Type -1: Normal humans
  • Type 0: Dragaeran noncombatants, Loiosh
  • Type 1: Vlad, Cawti, Dragaeran soldiers and fighters
  • Type 2: Daymar, Mario
  • Type 3: Morrolan, Aliera, Adron, Tazendra, Orlaan, the Emperor/Empress
  • Type 4: The gods, especially Verra, the Jenoine, Sethra, probably Devera

• Dragonlance
  • Type -1: Gully dwarves, goblins, gnomes (actually can vary from this all the way up to Type Two, depending on if their tech blows up them or their opponent)
  • Type 0: Humans, elves, dwarves, kender, hobgoblins etc.
  • Type 1: Tanis, Riverwind, Sturm, Caramon, Kitiara, Solamnic Knights in general, ogres, minotaurs, draconians
  • Type 2: Raistlin (Chronicles Trilogy), Goldmoon, Crysania, wizards and clerics in general, Verminaard
  • Type 3: Fistandantilus, Raistlin (Legends Trilogy), the Kingpriest, Emperor Ariakas, Lord Soth, dragons
  • Type 4: The gods, dragon overlords, Raistlin (alternate timeline)
  • Type 5: The Highgod and Chaos

• Dune
  • Type 0: Normal humans
  • Type 1: Sardaukar, Fremen, Thufir Hawat, Gurney Halleck, Duncan Idaho
  • Type 2: Bene Gesserits, Bene Gesserit trained males, Honored Matres, Mentats
  • Type 3: Kwisatz Haderach (Paul & Leto II)
  • Type 4: God Emperor Leto II, sandworms

• The Elder Scrolls Novels
  • Type -1: Hobs, Annaig's father, Wemreddle
  • Type 0: Annaig, Mere-Glim, Slyr, Attrebus
  • Type 1: Radhasa, Colin, Lesspa, Qijne, werebears
  • Type 2: Sul, Toel, Arese, Daedra
  • Type 3: Vuhon, Umbra
  • Type 4: Clavicus Vile*
    Previously a Type 5, but has been robbed of a portion of his power by Umbra and is no longer at full strength.
  • Type 5: Hircine, Malacath

• Forgotten Realms
  • Type -1: Folk living in "safe" areas, such as most cities, with a lot of exclusions.
  • Type 0: Most humans, demihumans and goblinoids, most faeries.
  • Type 1: Adventurers, natives of rough places like Hill's Edge, characters with a lot of military or criminal experience, unimportant magelings and priests.
  • Type 2: Major arcane or divine magic-users, great warriors (e.g. Azoun IV, Piergeiron, Gareth Dragonsbane, Jarlaxle, Zaknafein, Drizzt), unusually empowered chosen heroes (later Jherek), powerful extraplanars (genies, stronger fiends).
  • Type 3: Major High Magic or dragonmagic users, ancient archmages (Larloch, Halaster), old creatures of power (dragons, Iakhovas), semidivine beings (Chosen and Seraphs of gods, the Magister), least of gods (Finder) and planar lords (minor archdevils).
  • Type 4: Most gods.
  • Type 5: The "Overgod" Ao and presumably his peers (Fate)

• Endymion (second two books in the Hyperion series)
  • Type -1: The inhabitants of Heaven's Gate., Many Ousters, Martin Silenus
  • Type 0: Most humans, Father De Soya, Cardinals Mustafa and Lourdasamy
  • Type 1: Raul Endymion, The Chitchatuk, Sergeant Gregorius, Corporal Kee and Lancer Rettig
  • Type 2: A. Bettik, Rhadamanth Nemes (depowered), Councilor Albedo, Fehdman Kassad, Rachel Weintraub
  • Type 3: Nemes (full power) Gyges, Briareus, Scylla
  • Type 4: The Shrike, Jesus, A. Bettik, The Ultimate Intelligence (human and machine versions), the "Lions and Tigers and Bears"
  • Type 5: Aenea. *
    Basically, imagine Haruhi
    with knowledge of her powers and a bit nicer.]]

• Illuminatus
  • Type 0: George Dorn, Joe Malik, Saul Goodman
  • Type 1: Hagbard Celine, John Dillinger
  • Type 2: Any of Eris's mortal incarnations
  • Type 3: Malaclypse the Elder, The Dealy Lama
  • Type 4: Leviathan, the Lloigor, Eris

• Journey to the West
  • Type -1: The monks that start the journey with Xuanzang
  • Type 0: Xuanzang
  • Type 2: Most demons, Sha Wujing, Yulong Santaizi (Xuanzang's horse)
  • Type 3: Most gods, a few demons
  • Type 4: Sun Wukong, a few gods
  • Type 5: The Buddha

• Lensman
  • Type -1: Almost anybody on a civilian ship that gets boarded by pirates.
  • Type 0: Most Boskonians, most human-type Patrol personnel below Lensman rank.
  • Type 1: The Valerians (physically).
  • Type 2: Lensmen in general (mentally), Rigellians and Velantians (physically, when they are not Lensmen), and Palainians (mentally). Kimball Kinnison in Galactic Patrol.
  • Type 3: Second-Stage Lensmen: Kimball Kinnison, Tregonsee, Worsel, and Nadreck. Later, Clarissa.
  • Type 4: Arisians, Eddorians, the Ploorans, and the Children of the Lens

• MagisterTrilogy
  • Type -1: Sufferers of the Wasting, witches who have burned up most of their soulfire
  • Type 0: Ordinary humans
  • Type 1: Andovan, Salvator, High King Danton, Rhys, most Guardians
  • Type 2: Witches, Lyr
  • Type 3: Magisters, Souleaters, humans who've bonded with Souleatears

• Night Watch
  • Type 0: Normal humans
  • Type 2: Anton in Night Watch, The average member of the Night Watch or Day Watch
  • Type 3: Svetlana Gesar, Zabulon, Edgar *
    and functionally all other members of the Inquisition- they need to be powerful enough to take down any member of the Watches
    , Arina Anton by Twilight Watch
  • Type 4: Nadja, Kostya after becoming an uber-vampire, Anton by Final Watch

• RiftWar
  • Type 0: Roo Avery (at first)
  • Type 1: Roo Avery (trained), Jimmy the Hand, Arutha, most Dasati (some verge on type 2)
  • Type 2: Tomas, Lesser Mages.
  • Type 3: Varen, Valheru at full power, Greater Mages.
  • Type 4: Demon kings, Dreadlords, Pug/Milamber, Miranda, Macros the Black.
  • Type 5: Nalar, various other gods

• The Saga Of The Noble Dead
  • Type -1: Peasants, Most Aged Father (physically)
  • Type 0: Wynn, most nobles
  • Type 1: Leesil, Darmouth, Chap, most Anmaghlahk
  • Type 2: Ordinary vampires, Chane, Magiere normally
  • Type 3: Welstiel, Li'kan, Sau'ilahk, Ubad, Most Aged Father (magically), Magiere at full power
  • Type 4: The Fay, il'Samar

• A Song Of Ice And Fire
  • Type -1: Margaery Tyrell, Sansa Stark, Samwell Tarly (at first), Bran Stark without his warg powers
  • Type 0: Arya Stark, Cersei Lannister, Tyrion Lannister, Catelyn Stark, Hodor, Samwell Tarly (later on) Jaime after losing his hand
  • Type 1: Eddard Stark, Jaime Lannister, Sandor Clegane, Robb Stark, Jon Snow, Loras Tyrell, Renly Baratheon, Khal Drogo, Brienne of Tarth, Oberyn Martell, Asha Greyjoy, direwolves
  • Type 2: Melisandre of Asshai, Thoros of Myr, Jaqen H'ghar, Gregor Clegane, giants, the Others, Bran Stark with his warg powers, Targaryen dragon-riders.
  • Type 3: Dragons

• Stationery Voyagers
  • Type -1: Erasaxo Herrick, Stella-Marie Jenkins, Pinkata Casamada.
  • Type 0: The Rubblindos, the Goldsens, the Bovinezes, Hidicky Delft, Melanie Horquetza, and (usually) the Voyagers themselves, though they sometimes border on a Type 1.
  • Type 1: Garret Nobee, Katrina Mantalone (even while pregnant!,) Althorpe, Cybomec (Consto-Cybomec in particular), Astrabolo, most Whiteouts are either this or Type 0, Pentacko, Eveninger, Alhox, General Bluque, the Metallic Voyagers, several Yehtzig pirates, Niklo, etc.
  • Type 2: Liquidon Ethereteel (before beginning to suffer from Power Degeneration), most wizards, most Mosquatlons (even with their Weaksauce Weakness), Aviatets (actually more of a Type 1.5,) Molly Liechtish.
  • Type 3: Liquidon (after his Mikloche goes bad), Syuthan, the Lightning Zebra, Thestor.
  • Type 4: Most angels and demons, Levio, Filforth, Gabon, Maurice, Dolondri, Martarel, Vile Chameleon, Dark Wanderer, the Artificial Reincarnation process, etc.
  • Type 5: Minshus, the Muellex, the Definition Essentials, Outer Reality, the Dandelion Effect, the Web of Destiny, Vocational Destiny, Volition Dilemma, Phantomitics, and most forces of (super)nature.

• Twilight
  • Type -1: Bella Swan (In first three books)
  • Type 0: Mike Newton, Jessica, most humans
  • Type 1: Charlie, werewolves in human form
  • Type 2: Edward Cullen, Jacob Black, most werewolves in wolf form and Vampires
  • Type 3: The Volturi, Children of the Moon, Bella as a vampire

• Young Wizards
  • Type 0: Most non-wizards
  • Type 2: Typical wizards (Nita and Kit included)
  • Type 3: Senior Wizards, Dairine in books 3 and 4, Darryl, Nita with peridexis
  • Type 4: The Powers That Be, including the Lone Power
  • Type 5: The One

Gamebooks

• Lone Wolf
  • Type -1: Anyone under Lone Wolf's command or on the same ship as Lone Wolf. Zombies, Szalls.
  • Type 0: Vassagonian soldiers, bandits, Sommlending soldiers at a safe distance from Lone Wolf, Giaks, ordinary Shadakine.
  • Type 1: Kai Lords*
    They have Psychic Powers, but that's not unique in Magnamund
    , Drakkarim, Knights of the White Mountain, military officers, Kundi, Eruan Pathfinders, average Cener Druids, Lord Barraka.
  • Type 2: Kai Masters, Kai Lords with the Sommerswerd, residents of the Daziarn, Darklords, Vakeros, Kezoor the Necromancer, Magicians of the Crystal Star, Vonotar the Traitor, Grey Star (with the Lesser Magicks), King Ulnar the First, Shadakine Wytches, Helghasts.
  • Type 3: Archlords Haakon and Gnaag, Darklord Zagarna, Kai Grand Masters, Archdruid Cadak, Demoness Shamath (on the Plane of Darkness), the Beholder of Yanis, Lorkon Ironheart, Guildmaster Banedon, Elder Magi, Shianti, Grey Star (with the Greater Magicks), Zakhan Kimah, Kektaag the Avenger, Alyss, Wolf's Bane, Demonlord Tagazin, Wytch-King Shasarak.
  • Type 4: Supreme Master Lone Wolf, the Chaos-Master, Darklord Vashna, Deathlord Ixiataaga, Demoness Shamath (on Magnamund), Agarash the Damned.
  • Type 5: Kai, Ishir, Naar.

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For Narnia, the Emperor Over The Sea is literally God (Type 7).

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