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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 16th 2023 at 5:37:57 PM
Here's something I want to add to the Hanna-Barbera version of Charlotte's Web...
- Dreadful Musician: Henry Fussy is shown practicing the violin in his introductory scene. His violin music is shrill and off-key. It's somewhat justified in that Henry is a beginner and does not enjoy playing the violin. Henry feels much better later on after his grandfather accidentally breaks his violin.
For add on YMMV recap of "Gabriel Agreste":
- Broken Base :
- While fans can't deny the visual of Nathaniel and Marc about Marinette save Adrien like typical Disney Princess-esque (where Adrien act like Damsel in Distress with Marinette as his "prince charming") is good, some of fans especially Adrien fans despise this scene because they feel that its only to tell the viewer that Adrien is nothing but Marinette "Boyfriend Trophy" with lack of real character development. Some tumblr user also mention this scene is nothing to do with Love Square development and only have this "to be praised for breaking boundaries".
- They Wasted a Perfectly Good Character:
- Due to titled of the episode, Adrien supposed to be has larger focus on this. Since Felix and Kagami also there, fans expecting him has bonding time with his cousin thus will slowly lead Adrien suspicious over his father secrets or try to repair his relationship with Kagami just like how Marinette and Luka do in "Crocoduel". Instead Adrien absolutely do nothing important in the episode aside muttering about "his friend is important for him" to Nathalie which feel just empty for fandom.
- Fans also disappointed due to Lila Rossi didn't appear on this episode since she is one of Gabriel ally and new model for his fashion line. Fans also feel having Chloe attempt to isolated Adrien from his classmate just not fit for her giving that it is one of Lila biggest motivation why she accept Gabriel alliances.
- They Wasted a Perfectly Good Plot :
- When the title of the episode informed via voice-actor live streaming,fans expecting this episode is about Agreste family past and their mystery. When the episode aired, Fandom put their disappointment on this episode because 60% of episode is focused on "Marinette and her friends try to stop Chloe for sake to save Adrien" subplot which is clearly pointless instead of focusing on the Big Bad itself as civilian and Felix figure out about Shadowmoth identity.
Edited by Teekah on Jan 9th 2022 at 1:58:34 AM
I want to add an entry to Go Lion https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Anime/GoLion
- Serendipity Writes the Plot: World Event Productions, the people behind Voltron, originally wanted to make an adaptation of Mirai Robo Daltanious. Thru a poorly worded request for a mecha anime, "the one with lions", Toei Animation mistakenly sent over Beast King Go Lion instead. They ended up liking Golion more than Daltanious, so they just kept going with Go Lion... and ended up successful beyond their expectations.
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... I might need some help with the formatting. Normally I format by going into the edit page and copy pasting the format for the previous entry and just following that.
Edit: HELP. PLEASE HELP! I think that the spelling of "Go Lion" is confusing the page. Should be avoidable by typing it as Golion, but I'm not sure if that's the proper solution. How do I do this? BTW, I think that my problem is more a formatting issue than my English, but I was directed to post my entry here after a suspension, so I'm just following instructions.
Edited by jasonred79 on Jan 9th 2022 at 7:40:19 AM
Hi fellas. It's me again. Let's have another try.
Some character tropes for The Dark Knight Trilogy: The Mob and Other Criminals:
- Uncertain Doom: He is last seen holding a canister that the Joker put on his mouth, but it releases fumes of an unknown nature rather than exploding. Whether the fumes killed him or not, the Joker told him that "whatever doesn't kill [you], makes [you] stranger".
- Ambiguous Situation: Before being whacked by Carmine Falcone's assassin, Chill swears that he regrets having gunned down the Waynes. After his death, Bruce is told by Falcone that Chill bragged how Thomas Wayne "begged like a dog" in his last moments, implying that Chill may not have really regretted what he did. However, given that this isn't true and that it's heavily implied Chill robbed the Waynes out of desperation, it can debated whether this is true or if Falcone just liked to spite Bruce.
- Locked Out of the Loop: He wasn't aware that Happy was gonna kill him, so he seemingly was unaware about the backstabbing plan.
- Locked Out of the Loop: Him asking "Bozzo" what happened to the rest of the robbers apparently shows that he wasn't aware that all the robbers would backstab each other.
From page 666 @Lili LC
While only a minority of the fandom do it, <- space some have...
^ When you use a comma in the middle of a sentence like this, it's always followed by a space.
...no one but him expresses the...which explains the...Token Good Teammate <- no comma for...his Character Development.
From page 666 @Melinda
...only have to worry...because of an...wrong trail, refusing...
Passive-Aggressive Kombat: She...and her role mentoring doomed kids...
^ Need another "g" in "aggressive".
{{Sadist}}: Cora is...the Games are, <- comma but still enjoys them.
^ You used a square bracket instead of a curly bracket.
...government cog <- no comma while aiding...
^ Eu -> Et
Cora mourns having to wear five-inch...
Edith seems to be a Red Shirt Dracula victim...succeeds in turning her...
Her mother committed suicide when Edith was four due to trauma from a vampire attack.
...she horridly asks if they'll be OK.
^ "okay" and "O.K." are also correct.
In the tenth issue, a group of elites Dracula tries to intimidate/recruit...
...Dracula gets himself invited on a...tries to submit Dracula, he gets thrown overboard. Unusually for the trope, <- comma everyone...
^ "tries to submit Dracula" is not correct.
One pulls a gun on him, <- comma and just when it seems like...
Issue 70, where the paraplegic Quincy...
When Dracula menaces a lighthouse keeper's family and kills one...
Edited by Arivne on Jan 9th 2022 at 12:06:44 PM
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@Bullman
...Hook was even jealous at how close the two seemed...
However, it was sunk when Neal is Killed Off for Real...
Belle/Rumplestiltskin <- no comma (whose members are married) <- parentheses seems...
I don't see any English errors in that example.
Thank you.
@Teekah
A lot of my changes below are pure guesswork based on what I think you meant to write. I have no idea if what I changed is true to the work.
...the visual of Nathaniel and Marc about Marinette save Adrien like typical Disney Princess-esque (where Adrien acts like a Damsel...his "Prince Charming") is...some of fans, <- comma especially Adrien fans, <- comma despise...that it's only...but Marinette's "Boyfriend...with no real...Some Tumblr users say this scene has nothing...only has this...
^ "the visual of Nathaniel and Marc about Marinette save Adrien like typical Disney Princess-esque"
^ This is Word Salad. I have no idea what you're trying to say.
Due to the title of...Adrien is supposed to have a larger...Kagami are also...him to have bonding...will expect Adrien to be suspicious...his father's secrets...Kagami, <- comma just as Marinette...Instead, <- comma Adrien does absolutely nothing...aside from muttering...Nathalie, <- comma which just feels empty to the' fandom.
Fans are also...to how Lila...appear in this...of Gabriel's allies and the new...to isolate Adrien...classmate is just...her, <- comma given that...of Lila's biggest motivations for accepting an alliance with Gabriel.
...episode was released via...streaming, <- space fans were expecting...episode to be about the mystery of the Agreste family's past....aired, the fandom was disappointed in this...of it is...for the sake of saving Adrien" subplot, <- comma which...pointless, <- comma instead...as the civilians and...out about Shadowmoth's identity.
@ElJuaco
...put in his mouth...that "Whatever doesn't kill [you], makes [you] stranger".
^ Did the Joker actually say "stranger", a misquoting of the original phrase?
...After Chill's death...just wanted to spite Bruce.
- The Mumbai enclave. Since they have some inkling of a prophecy about El, they could be hoping to make her a scapegoat.
- Liesel. The way she seems to avoid the enclaves in her home country while reaching out to powerful ones elsewhere could be some kind of strategy. Also, in the extremely unlikely event that someone inside the Scholomance was able to use magic to bring down Bangkok without leaving the facility, who is more likely to have that kind of skillset than a valedictorian?
- A California enclave out to undermine New York.
- One of the British enclaves like Manchester, trying to get back on top.
- Sudarat (possibly in a brainwashed state, as she seems genuinely innocent and confused), given her status as a survivor of the Bangkok enclave.
- New York. They could have taken out Bangkok to weaken the Asian enclaves, just like Shanghai fears.
- Shanghai or another Asian enclave, as a Pretext for War.
- One or more of Liu's relatives, trying to increase the power of their family.
- Some adult paranoid about the balance because of the lives Orion is saving.
- One of the maleficers from three years ahead of Gwen, having faked his or her death and spent the years since plotting revenge.
- A Sharma Black Sheep.
- Zanzibar, Seattle, and Santa Barbara. All of them have briefly featured notable but at least slightly unpleasant characters (Khamis, Victoria, and Myrthe). Taking one of them out might be a way to show the stakes are high while avoiding a lot of angst.
- Sydney. They are the only mentioned enclave on their continent so far, and that isolation may work against them.
- Paris. It's in a very important city, but few if any students from Paris have been directly mentioned. Killing them could be a sign of seriousness while also avoiding any of the characters we know.
- New Orleans or Atlanta. In the first book, El says Aadhya might be going to one of those. If they are destroyed before she gets a chance, that could cause her to stick around El instead.
- New York, with or without most of its people, as a Sacrificial Lion entity.
- Moe: Nurse Melba Benson, Parker's Distaff Counterpart and Girl of the Week, due to being a Cute Clumsy Girl who has a delightful Meet Cute moment with him.
- Fanfic Fuel: Since the team is already established and fighting Red Flag in the pilot (having already met people like Skylar and Marcus), it's interesting to speculate about their unseen earlier adventures.
Edited by Melinda on Jan 10th 2022 at 1:51:17 AM
Hi fellas. It's me again. Let's have another try.
A Headscratcher for Spider-Man 2:
- Where does exactly that tentacle of Doctor Octopus drags the female doctor with the super nails that can scratch the floor even with the gloves on?
And a Headscratcher for Spider-Man 3:
- Does Eddie Brock, prior to being claimed by the Venom symbiote as its host, posses amazing view and hearing senses? When he finds Peter trying to take off the symbiote from himself at the church's belltower, he immediately recognizes Peter even when Peter has never screamed in front of him (so he couldn't know what his screams are like) and is at the top of the belltower.
- Serendipity Writes the Plot: World Event Productions, the people behind Voltron, originally wanted to make an adaptation of Mirai Robo Daltanious. Through a poorly worded request for a mecha anime, "the one with lions", Toei Animation mistakenly sent over Beast King GoLion instead. They ended up liking GoLion more than Daltanious, so they just kept going with GoLion. It ended up successful beyond their expectations.
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... like this? ... but then every use of the word Go Lion ends up becoming a hyperlink??? ... someone told me I overuse "..." and I think they have a point... erk. Used it so much in this notes phase. Anyhow, I decided to not use them, as above.
Edited by jasonred79 on Jan 10th 2022 at 1:13:46 AM
@Melinda
...it seems unlikely that any of them are the people responsible, but...
^ "personnel" is normally used in an official sense, such as government or company employees. Are the people involved official in nature?
Since they have some inkling of a prophecy about El, <- comma they could be...
...who is more likely to have that kind of skillset than a valedictorian?
Sudarat (...), <- comma given...
They could have taken out Bangkok to weaken the Asian enclaves, <- comma just...
...in the third book <- no comma or that may have been destroyed...
All of them have briefly featured notable but at least slightly unpleasant...
...if/when El makes it back to rescue him, <- comma but will have lost a limb or two doing so.
@ElJuaco
Where exactly does that...Octopus drag the female doctor...with her gloves on?
...host, possess amazing sight and hearing senses? When...to remove the symbiote...Peter, <- comma even though Peter...
^ "view" is not a sense.
Thanks
- Anthony looking at souvenirs of Mr. Miyagi while experiencing guilty flashbacks about how he's been bullying Kenny is surprisingly somber.
- Dangerous 16th Birthday: While she's already been exposed to loss and terror before that, Rachel mentions that her sixteenth birthday was marked by Dracula showing up to try and seduce and kill her.
- What Happened to the Mouse?: "And From Order There Will Come Chaos," a story in the second series, involves Dracula developing a mutually damaging psychic connection with the daughter of a woman Drake and Rachel saved from him about fifteen years ago. The girl's half-brother is a notable character early on but then inexplicably vanishes from the story while his mother and stepfather remain prominent.
- One True Pairing: A lot of people ship Frank and Rachel even though subsequent comic series don't have them end up together.
- They Wasted a Perfectly Good Character: Edith can feel underused, given how her growing up with Rachel as a foster sister and her trauma about Dracula causing her mother's suicide are either ignored or relegated to brief flashbacks.
- Vanilla Protagonist: Playboy turned determined, gunslinging Vampire Hunter Frank Drake is the central protagonist throughout the original run and is by no means a Flat Character. Nonetheless, he is often if not always eclipsed in popularity by his love interest Rachel (due to her Badass Family background and Improbable Aiming Skills), Daywalking Vampire and Hunter of Their Own Kind Blade, tragic Handicapped Badass Quincy Harker, Friendly Neighborhood Vampire Private Investigator Hannibal King, constantly reincarnated Tragic Villain Lilith, the angelic Janus, mute Scarily Competent Tracker Taj Nital, and Dracula himself (due to his Magnificent Bastard moments).
- The Woobie:
- Quincy. His wife commits suicide after a vampire attack that maims him and he has to raise his daughter alone and while dealing with his paraplegia. His loved ones are constantly menaced and endangered by Dracula and he has to Mercy Kill his infected daughter.
- Rachel spends almost her entire life being menaced by Dracula, who kills her biological family. She outlives many friends and her efforts to kill Dracula constantly come to naught. And if you acknowledge the X-Men crossover after the original run, after she retires to live in peace she's turned into a vampire, forced to be Dracula's consort, and is left begging for a Mercy Kill due to the absence of a known cure.
- the 2004 miniseries has two scenes that stand out.
- The samurai Michiyo Watanabe fighting the vampire that killed her mother.
- In the last issue, a group of hooded archers arrive as The Cavalry. They belong to the Mortuus Invitus, a group of vampires who shun their nature and want to kill Dracula. The American branch of the group had earlier aided the heroes but declined to join their assassination mission against Dracula due to fear that he could compel them into turning on their allies.
Groza: [H]ere in the enemy's backyard, we are made of sterner stuff.
- In Moonbase Alpha (by Stuart Gibbs), the base's psychiatrist psychiatrist, a former self-help guru, is a quack who "got his medical degree from a sixth-rate school in the Bahamas." He only got the job because NASA wanted a celebrity as part of the crew for good press.
Dash: But he's famous.Chang Hi-Tech: That's doesn't mean he's good.
Notable Molls, Moles, Thugs, and Other Secondary Criminals
Molly
- Played by: Jill St. John
- Evil Redhead: She has red hair and actively assists Riddler in his plans against the heroes.
- Killed Off for Real: She falls to her death while running away from Batman.
- Sweet Polly Oliver: Molly disguises herself as Robin in one scene, using his costume and a Latex Perfection mask.
Eivol Ekdal
- Played by: Jack Kruschen
- Alliterative Name: Eioval Ekdal.
- Mad Artist: He's a little too cheery about one of his traps being poised to kill Batman and Robin.
- Poisonous Friend: He acts friendly to Zelda, but he's the one egging her into increasingly illegal schemes.
Blaze
- Played by: Myrna Fahey
- Hyper-Competent Sidekick: She's just as skilled in disguise as False-Face and is also more resourceful than him.
- Kaleidoscope Hair: She has a different color of wig or hair dye (red, blonde, green, purple, etc.) in each scene she's in.
- Worthy Opponent: She respects Batman and Robin as impressive enemies, which leads to her saving them from a Death Trap.
The Grand Vizier and the Scrivener
- Played by: Don "Red" Barry and Frank Christi.
- Bantering Baddie Buddies: The two are close friends who share a lot of humorous dialogue, some of which pertains to how whacky Tut's cult is.
- No Name Given: Their real names are never mentioned.
- Not So Above It All: They quietly deride the gang's Egyptian trappings, but they take one ominous tarot card seriously enough to whack a seemingly unconscious Bruce Wayne over the head.
- Only in It for the Money: They don't buy into Tut's mindset and mainly follow him because his plans promise monetary rewards.
Lydia Limpet
- Played by: Francine York
- Alliterative Name: Lydia Limpet.
- Brainy Brunette: She's dark-haired and is quite observant and crafty.
- Decoy Damsel: She poses as a kidnapping victim to feed the Dynamic Duo false information. They see through her deception, but she figures out that they've seen though her and adapts to this.
Mr. Van Jones
- Played by: Francis X Bushman
- Anti-Villain: He endangers the heroes' lives by hiring Riddler, but he just wants to make another silent movie, doesn't seem to think that the heroes are truly in danger, and happily congratulates and pays Riddler after nostalgically watching the finished film.
- Evil Is Not a Toy: He hires a super villain to produce a piece of entertainment for him and ends up being robbed for real at the end of the episode.
- What Happened to the Mouse?: Whether Batman figures out that Van Jones hired Riddler is unclear, and his fate is unknown.
Edited by Melinda on Jan 11th 2022 at 8:33:17 AM
Rhythm Heroine
For Genshin Impact:
- Living Memory: Unlike the ghosts in Liyue, the faceless "ghosts" in Inazuma's Tsurumi Island are just afterimages containing certain memories and illusions of the original civilians due to magic. Strangely enough, they have personalitiesnote and can communicate with the living ones, especially Traveller and Paimon. In Enkanomiya, a few of them are fragmented souls of dead people. It's heavily implied that some Enkanomiya civilians (whose afterimages are created from that place) are still alive and moved to Watatsumi Island.
Edited by Minorica on Jan 20th 2022 at 3:24:12 AM
"No matter how bad the heroes can get or how bad the situation is, we're sure we can overcome it and get our happy endings..."
"Cool. Coolcoolcool."
For Once Upon a Time (One True Threesome tree):
- A lot of fans who ship Emma/Regina are also big fans of Ruby and like to include her. It helps that Emma has chemistry and Les Yay with both of them, as does the fact that Ruby is bisexual in the show. Ruby's canon relationship often being seen as Strangled by the Red String also helps. This pairing is referred to as "Red Swan Queen".
- When Elsa was introduced in Season 4, Elsa/Emma/Hook has become very popular among shippers who shipped Official Couple Emma/Hook. It helps that Elsa is the one to help Emma control her magic and also become close friends with both Emma and Hook. These shippers refer to it as "Captain Frozen Swan".
- In an interesting case, at the end of season 5, Regina separated her Evil Queen half from her and allowed for the Evil Queen persona to interact with both her and Emma at the same time. Fans who ship Fan-Preferred Couple "Swan Queen" (Emma/Regina) took this as an opportunity to ship both the Foe Yay version from the first two seasons and Les Yay that quickly became popular later seasons at the same time. This is helped by fans also shipping the two versions of Regina (called "Mayor Queen") together. This threesome pairing is called "Mayor Swan Queen".
- A lot of Regina/Robin Hood shippers love Maleficent and will often include her in their fanfics. It helps that while Robin Hood is Regina's conical soulmate, she has a close friendship and great chemistry with Maleficent. These shippers often refer to it as "Dragon Outlaw Queen".
Any corrections?
Edited by Bullman on Jan 10th 2022 at 12:51:13 PM
Fan-Preferred Couple cleanup thread
- Serendipity Writes the Plot: World Event Productions, the people behind Voltron, originally wanted to make an adaptation of Mirai Robo Daltanious. Through a poorly worded request for a mecha anime, "the one with lions", Toei Animation mistakenly sent over Beast King GoLion instead. They ended up liking GoLion more than Daltanious, so they just kept going with GoLion. It ended up successful beyond their expectations.
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I think it's ready this time!!! I forgot to check whether Daltanious had it's own page, but I checked and it does, so I linked to it. Is this version good to go?
Edited by jasonred79 on Jan 11th 2022 at 2:12:10 AM
@Melinda
While she's already been exposed to loss and terror...birthday was marked...
^ You could also change it to "While she's already been experienced to loss and terror...".
Quincy...and he has to raise his daughter alone and paraplegic.
^ Who is paraplegic? Quincy or his daughter?
Played by: Jill St. John
He acts friendly to Zelda, <- comma but he's the one egging her...
He endangers the heroes' lives...watching the the finished film.
@Minorica
...afterimages containing certain...due to certain magic. Strangely enough, <- comma they have...
Cleaning up some Once Upon a Time Ship Sinking entries to move to the main page:
Any corrections?
Fan-Preferred Couple cleanup thread