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The Hindsight tropes, Hilarious in Hindsight, Harsher in Hindsight, and Heartwarming in Hindsight, are among the most misused Audience Reaction tropes on this site. Many people don't understand that the tropes require more than just "This happened, so that happened", and end up adding examples which either lack connection or the substance that makes them funny/serious/not-so-funny/heartwarming. Some of them may be suited better for other tropes (ex: Life Imitates Art), while some may not belong on TV Tropes at all (such as ones involving politicians, due to Rule of Cautious Editing Judgment).

Please report any Hindsight example that you feel are questionable, and we'll analyze them to see if they are actually examples or not.

Remember that the Hindsight tropes are Audience Reactions. That means if an example under review discusses significant fan response pointing out the hindsight, the example can't be cut solely for being too tenuous for this thread.

    Common NOT in Hindsight examples 
  • Creator's character/portrayal dies in work and then creator dies in real life, unless their fictional death is closely similar to their real one (such as Billy Bob Joe portraying a character who dies from pancreatic cancer, then Billy Bob dies from pancreatic cancer himself)
  • Mundane word related to something terrible (such as "corona" or "Epstein") unless there's more to the connection (such as someone named "Corona" having the flu)
  • Creator appears in work then becomes more controversial later on.
  • A common event (such as a typical natural disaster) happens in work, then happens in real life (unless they are closely similar, such as the event happening to the same area in both reality and fiction around the same time) For once, not everything related to disease has to do with COVID-19, not everything related to racism and Police Brutality has to do with George Floyd and Black Lives Matter, and not everything related to sexual abuse has to do with #MeToo.
  • A common/generic concept was used in this work and then later reused in that work (too loose for a connection, unless the concept is so unique it's identified with the work)
  • Two actors appear together then do so in another work
  • Hindsight examples involving recent events, due to them often being shoehorns. Specifically:
    • COVID-19 examples, before 75% of the population has returned to normal
    • George Floyd/2020 Black Lives Matter examples, before protests have declined
  • Examples which fall guilty of Older Than They Think, such as "Make X Great Again" slogans. Aside from violating the ROCEJ, this slogan has been in use since the 1940s.
  • Characters using slurs which are treated as annoying at worst in the work, but is now harsher due to how severe the slur is made now. Discrimination has always existed with that slur. (May qualify for Values Dissonance if work is at least 20 years old.)

Note: As of January 2022, "Funny Aneurysm" Moment is no longer separate from Harsher in Hindsight.
  • The former redirects to the latter and all wicks to the former (with the exception of ones on archive pages and the YMMV Redirects index) must either be moved to the latter (if they're valid) or removed (if they're invalid).
  • The subpages for the former are still accessible from this page. After a subpage for "Funny Aneurysm" Moment has been completely cleaned up, turn it into a redirect to the Harsher in Hindsight subpage for the same medium to preserve inbounds.

Edited by Tabs on Jun 21st 2023 at 11:51:25 AM

delayedboom she/her Since: Sep, 2021 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#4801: Nov 17th 2021 at 10:29:40 PM

From G-Saviour:

  • Harsher in Hindsight: The fact that this estabilishes that the Earth Federation will eventually collapse a few decades before the events of the film may cause this while viewing the Universal Century shows.

I don't see how this fits Harsher in Hindsight, wouldn't that go under the entries that chronologically take place before G-Saviour? (Also, it doesn't mention any specific moments in previous entries)

I could see why the RGM-196 Freedom and ZGMF-X10A Freedom having the same name combined with the theme song could be Hilarious in Hindsight. Not so sure that the similar looks between the GINNs/Bugus and actor trivia qualify.

If this was clearer/reworded, maybe?

  • Guess which of the generic characters from another anime gets a similar denial-based reactions (albeit ironic) from fans?

I don't know Love Live!, so this reads like Fan Myopia to me. Anyone know what this entry is talking about?

"Actor goes on to play another role in a popular franchise" doesn't sound like Hilarious in Hindsight to me

  • Sunrise announced that they're working on another live-action adaptation of Gundam as announced in 2019.

I don't really know about this one, I'm leaning towards "not a valid entry" because an unsuccessful adaptation in another medium doesn't mean the companies/rights owners won't try for another one. (See Super Mario Bros and the upcoming Mario animated film)

Edited by delayedboom on Nov 17th 2021 at 10:30:09 AM

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Dramatic Since: Jun, 2012
#4802: Nov 20th 2021 at 10:00:31 AM

Welcome to San Andreas, I'm CJ from Grove Street...

    Examples 
"Funny Aneurysm" Moment:
  • One of the random (female) pedestrian lines is, "Where's the Russian mafia when you need them?" Definitely a lot funnier before the Darker and Edgier Grand Theft Auto IV happened. I think this counts: the Russian Mafia doesn't play a big role in San Andreas, so this throwaway line is more amusing after IV revolved around them. I think this is more Hilarious than Funny Aneurysm though.
  • The several counts of sexual harassment against Andy Dick in the wake of the Harvey Weinstein scandal make several of the nudity jokes in "Gardening With Maurice" rather cringeworthy. For context, Andy Dick voices Maurice. This could maybe count, though he was known for this kind of behaviour even before 2004, so the "Hindsight" criteria is in question.
  • The guard in the mission "Madd Dogg's Rhymes" lamenting the game he was playing (specifically, DRIV3R) for being a broken mess becomes ironic when playing the aforementioned mission in The Definitive Edition which was notorious for being prone to glitches at launch. I actually do think this fits; the joke in its original context is making fun of another contemporary game for being buggy and unpolished, and so feels hypocritical when you are playing it in the notoriously buggy and unpolished Definitive Edition.
    • Similarly, Big Smoke's line "Same things make us laugh, make us cry" can now apply to the GTAIII trilogy itself, as while the original versions are some of the most beloved video games of all time, the Definitive Editions had a bad enough launch to be some of the lowest-rated games on Metacritic, while the originals are some of the highest. This one just feels like a big stretch though.

Harsher in Hindsight:

  • Though the riots at the end of the game are obviously based on the Rodney King riots, a police officer being let off the hook for a lack of evidence causing riots in town can nowadays bring up uncomfortable memories of Ferguson, Missouri, and the riots that took place there following Darren Wilson not being indicted by a grand jury for shooting Michael Brown. This part basically explains itself why it isn't hindsight: "It's based on a historical event but something more recent makes it hindsight somehow".
    • Then came the George Floyd protests in 2020, where a fatal choking by law enforcement lead to protests that had a tendency of turning violent and spreading to cities outside of Minneapolis, one of which was Los Angeles. It also didn't help that the line "Take it off, please, I can't breathe, please!" said by CJ as he was inside Tenpenny's police cruiser sounds disturbingly similar to the one George Floyd said when he was pleading for his life while resisting arrest (although it was Eric Garner who originally said it). A BLM shoehorn that argues with itself as to what exactly it's even meant to be referencing.
  • An In-Universe example: After Carl Johnson robbed Salvatore Leone's casino, it results in him being increasingly paranoid and distrustful towards everyone after a while. This eventually ends in Salvatore's untimely death at the hands of Claude nine years later in Grand Theft Auto III, after his paranoia lead him to set up an ambush for the otherwise-loyal Claude. GTA III came before San Andreas, so this is just a prequel setting things up for later.
  • Seeing Grove Street controlled by the Ballas in the mission “Home Coming” considering what becomes of Grove Street by 2013note . Double points as a Heartwarming in Hindsight as Lookalikes of CJ and Company appear in the game too. This could maybe count, as the Grove Street Families are defunct in V and Grove Street itself is Ballas territory.

Hilarious in Hindsight:

  • At one point, The Truth starts rambling about mind-control satellites and religious artifacts. The plot of Assassin's Creed involves religious artifacts being used in mind-control satellites. Fan Myopia
  • Early on, Officer Tenpenny gives you missions from an obvious expy of the famous Randy's Donuts shop. Around six years later, his voice actor would meet with Tony Stark at the real thing in Iron Man 2. Fan Myopia and actor shoehorn
  • Also, Tenpenny's "I got my eye on you" line is a bit hilarious given Jackson's Nick Fury also likes saying similar lines. Actor shoehorn, plus claiming a common phrase isn't common
  • After five years on the East Coast, it was time to go home. This is a quote from the opening cutscene. If it counts, it needs that bit more context.
  • This wouldn't be the last time that Samuel L. Jackson would portray the main antagonist in a work that featured the song "Free Bird." Actor and music shoehorn!
  • "When I'm gone, everyone gonna remember my name...Big Smoke!" At the time the rather tragic delusion of a dying, drug-addled man. Nowadays, thanks to the internet, damn near everyone knows who Big Smoke is. Also maybe a valid example. Big Smoke absolutely is well-known for the memes he spawned.
  • Two years after this game, another crime-themed Wide-Open Sandbox game featuring a gang dressed in purple is released... except its members are the heroes instead of the antagonists. Even more amusingly, they would end up dealing with a gang dressed in green that embraces dealing hard drugs another two years after that. This one is a little complicated, as it appears that the Green/Purple conflict was intentional in Saints Row to some extent. We know for example the Saints went from wearing green to purple in the first game's pre-release period, so I'm unsure how this falls.
  • "Are You Going to San Fierro?" has CJ burning The Truth's huge marijuana garden with a flamethrower. Eight years later, Far Cry 3 has Jason Brody do the exact same thing in the iconic mission, "Kick the Hornet's Nest". Fan Myopia

This is my first attempt at doing one of these cleanups; I hope all this is easy to understand.

[up] As for the above stuff, I agree that the bottom two points are not examples; You Look Familiar is a trope for actors playing multiple roles in a single franchise, and things are allowed to have more than one adaption. I don't know enough about Gundam to speak on the rest.

RobertTYL Since: Oct, 2019 Relationship Status: Holding out for a hero
#4803: Nov 22nd 2021 at 12:29:08 AM

Man, what an essay...

Cut and change as necessary, although I'd agree that the Andy Dick one is a borderline keep. Just, barely, but the rest's gotta go

Edited by RobertTYL on Nov 23rd 2021 at 4:29:32 AM

MissConduct (Lucky 7)
#4804: Nov 22nd 2021 at 3:28:58 PM

The Music subpage of FAM is a miserable mess and I can't wait to see it die in a fire once I get the TRS thread up and running. In the meantime, let's cut some shoehorns (also, all of these are on FAM but not funny, therefore if we keep them it should be on Harsher).

  • Many songs were hit by Hurricane Katrina, including:
    • "When The Levee Breaks", by Kansas Joe McCoy and Memphis Minnie, later versioned by Led Zeppelin on Led Zeppelin IV. The song refers to one of the most destructive river floods in United States history, though New Orleans was largely spared. It becomes harsher post-Hurricane Katrina. While levees did break before that, it was never quite on that scale. Spike Lee used the song title for a documentary about Katrina. Although there is the Spike Lee connection, the original song fails the hindsight test 'cause it was about a different flood.
    • The blues song "New Orleans":
      "where the magnolia blossoms fill the air
      Oh, you ain't been to heaven till you've been down there!" Shoehorn - you do realize New Orleans still exists, right?
    • "Proud Mary", whose aftermath covers omit the second verse. The second verse talks about the singer working grueling and demeaning jobs in Memphis and New Orleans and it has nothing to do with Katrina. I also can't find any covers post-'05 that cut it.
    • Chris Thomas King's "Flooding in the Delta". Maybe, King is from New Orleans, but Katrina is far from the first time there's been flooding in the Mississippi delta.
    • Canadian rock band The Tragically Hip did this twice, in 2003 with "If New Orleans is Beat" and in 1989 with the disturbingly prophetic "New Orleans is Sinking". Maybe?
    • The standard "Do You Know What It Means to Miss New Orleans?" (note marking) Now that we know, many find it intolerable.(end note) Shoehorn - again, New Orleans wasn't wiped off the map like Pompeii. Also has that smug, pearl clutching tone that makes it seem like it's saying "You should be offended by this too!"
    • Even a band name got hit by this trope - Katrina and the Waves. People can't stop themselves from making this comparison. It's here, on K&TW's YMMV page, and on their main page. It's the poor woman's given name, leave her alone!

There's also: "New Orleans based metal band Down had a song on their 2002 album titled "New Orleans is a Dying Whore." Oops. They play it live as of 2009, but one imagines they took it out of rotation for a year or two following Katrina." Clearly, they aren't too fond of their hometown, so clearly they don't think it's FAM/Harsher. There's also a bit of that pearl clutching here.

Edited by MissConduct on Nov 22nd 2021 at 6:48:08 AM

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#4805: Nov 22nd 2021 at 3:54:00 PM

Katrina and the Waves is the only one that I would maybe count. The name Katrina is tied to the hurricane, unlike some other names used for hurricanes, and "waves" can likewise bring storms to mind. The rest are a shoehorned as "any disease = COVID." Some would fit Distanced from Current Events instead.

Edited by mightymewtron on Nov 22nd 2021 at 6:54:26 AM

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Dramatic Since: Jun, 2012
#4806: Nov 22nd 2021 at 8:23:40 PM

I agree that almost all the Katrina examples can go. I think the way the Katrina and the Waves example was written on their page is fine, as it acknowledges that Katrina herself knew the connection would be brought up.

I find this kind of nitpicking kinda fun, so screw it, it's Grand Theft Auto IV time!

    Examples 
Hilarious In Hindsight (It's own page even!)
  • Princess Bubblegum, eh? This is a reference to a Show Within a Show named "Princess Robot Bubblegum", which is your standard anime Magical Girl parody. Given that this entry needs to omit the "Robot" part to make this comparison work, and the fact that the two characters don't have anything else in common, I think this doesn't count.
  • The I'm Rich Show Within a Show, features a guy named Tony Mctony, who is a 5 foot, rich African American male who brags about wasting his money on sports cars and pimping out his mansion. He even has an official logo, TMT. Anyone who follows boxing, knows that TMT is the label for superstar boxer Floyd Mayweather's Jr. business, The Money Team, which came about years after the game was released and before Floyd changed his nickname from 'Pretty Boy' to 'Money'. Floyd is even known for buying a lot of sports cars and pimping out his mansion in Vegas, which he shows off to the fans through online pics and videos. He is also 5 foot tall. The TMT connection could maybe count by itself, but most of this feels like trying to say an example of broad satire predicted the thing it's satirizing. This one could maybe stay with a bit of rewording.
  • One of the many in-game websites is a fan page for tablets, essentially a massive Take That! at the early 2000s incarnations of the devices, which were bulky, hot, and had abysmal performance and worse battery life. Fast-forward to today, and tablets (and phablets) are so popular that some are seriously predicting that in the longer run they may well kill off traditional PCs. Technology Marches On rather than Hindsight.
  • If the player tries to visit the website littlelacysurprisepageant.com, they'll be greeted with a white page informing them they've just been busted in a police sting and an instant five star wanted level. While it was originally spoofing the moral panic about child sex predators on the internet whipped up by To Catch a Predator, it has taken on a new dimension in the wake of the FBI MoneyPak Ransomware, which seems to have been specifically designed to target people who are visiting parts of the internet they shouldn't be. Given that the ransomware cited isn't part of a police sting, this connection seems strenuous.
  • U.L. Paper associating homosexuality with the in-universe FBI, if Clint Eastwood's depiction of the most famous Director of the FBI is to be believed.note  Aside from trying to ascribe a general historical question to a specific work, this example also argues against itself by acknowledging that the supposed "Hindsight" has a basis that predates the work.
  • The game includes a vehicle manufacturer named Pegassi, which is a composite of Lamborghini and Ducati. Four years after the release of the game, Lamborghini acquired Ducati, making this a case of Accidentally-Correct Writing. With the disclaimer that I wrote this one, I think this counts.
  • The fact that the game has an entire station devoted to reggaeton. This one is hilarious because of how much the music industry has tried to forget about the "reggaeton bubble," but it also illustrates just how long the development process can take. Reggaeton was enormous on US airwaves in 2005 and 2006 when Rockstar licensed its music, but it was a different story by the time the game came out. Rockstar picked the wrong horse there. Though given the fact that Reggaeton blew up again in the late 2010's, perhaps Rockstar were just a decade too early. I also added the final sentence of this example because even then I found this one a bit weird, but I'm proposing to just cut the entire thing. This is more Unintentional Period Piece than Hindsight (and I'd honestly argue that it's not even an example of that: GTA IV is pretty intently a time capsule of pre-recession America), and as I implied it's also pretty short-sighted considering "Despacito" exists and reggaeton and latin influence is all over pop music today.
  • Jodeci's "Freek'n You" can be heard playing on The Vibe 98.8. It wouldn't be the only time the song was played in a setting revolving around crime, drug trades, and the mafia. Fan Myopia and music shoehorn

Harsher in Hindsight:

  • Early in the game Niko, an Eastern European immigrant, triggers a six star wanted level if he leaves Broker or Bohan due to a terrorism scare mentioned on the in-game GTA Radio. In April 2013, the cities of Boston and Watertown were locked down hunting for an actual Eastern European immigrant terrorist. As the Boston police response expanded to include helicopters and armored vehicles, internet commenters took it upon themselves to declare Dzhokhar Tsarnaev's "wanted level." I don't know where to start with this one, but I think it's pretty obviously a huge stretch, especially since the entry itself acknowledges that Niko isn't a terrorist (in-story anyway).
  • The game's satire of various political issues (the Jingoism Act, the LCPD slogan "We see it all, we know it all") becomes a lot more cutting after the revelation of NSA surveillance and other such programs. These kinds of examples feel like they're trying to devalue the original work's satire just so you can say "look, this work wasn't nearly as relevant until this happened!"
  • The Fox News Channel Expy, Weazel News features a commercial that touts their diversity by introducing an Asian news anchor with an oriental gong sound. In October 2016, The O Reilly Factor correspondent, Jesse Watters, filmed a segment in New York's Chinatown that many people saw as extremely racist. Here is a rebuttal from The Daily Show. Oddly placed pimping of The Daily Show, and the segment itself doesn't have anything to do with the original joke beyond involving Asian people and the news.

I honestly did not write this with the intent of concluding with "the only one that should stay is one I wrote", but that's how it turned out. Oops.

Edited by Dramatic on Nov 22nd 2021 at 8:25:32 AM

GoldenCityBird from the UK Since: Oct, 2018
#4807: Nov 23rd 2021 at 12:11:32 PM

Bringing up this example from Johnny English:

Between the Covid reference and the tabloid newspaper link, I really think something's fishy about this.

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#4808: Nov 23rd 2021 at 12:29:41 PM

Turn the United Kingdom into what?

Either way, torch that.

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Shadow8411 Since: Jul, 2019
#4809: Nov 27th 2021 at 6:06:51 AM

Here's an example I put on South Park: Post Covid. Do you guys think it sounds reasonable, or would it still be considered a shoehorn?

  • Harsher in Hindsight: Fans assumed Kenny would die of COVID during the first pandemic special and were surprised he didn’t. Turns out he would experience dying from COVID forty years later in-universe. Even worse, he dies of a new variant of COVID, just as it seems that the pandemic is finally coming to an end. The day after this special aired, a new variant of COVID (dubbed "Omicron") was detected in South Africa, and was believed to have already spread beyond the country.

bwburke94 Friends forevermore from uǝʌɐǝɥ Since: May, 2014 Relationship Status: RelationshipOutOfBoundsException: 1
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#4810: Nov 27th 2021 at 6:26:19 AM

[up] It's COVID, and it's just another Kenny death. I don't see this one as valid.

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Shadow8411 Since: Jul, 2019
#4811: Nov 27th 2021 at 6:53:52 AM

Fair enough, I just thought I should amend the example to be more fitting than what it was before, which was this (and I fail to see how it's even remotely "hilarious"):

  • Hilarious in Hindsight: Fans assumed Kenny would die of COVID during the first pandemic special and were surprised he didn’t. Turns out he would experience dying from COVID forty years later in-universe.

BigJimbo Since: Dec, 2017
#4812: Nov 27th 2021 at 7:01:49 AM

This entry in YMMV.Baby Looney Tunes is rather... iffy to me:

  • Harsher in Hindsight: In Baby Pepe’s debut episode, Baby Sylvester tries to get rid of the little skunk, but grows fond of him. At the end, he becomes sad when he leaves. As of 2021, Moral Guardians have forced Warner Bros to get rid of Pepe, believing him to promote sexual harassment. In way, Sylvester got his wish.

Shadow8411 Since: Jul, 2019
#4813: Nov 27th 2021 at 7:30:27 AM

That's definitely a shoehorn (the reason why Sylvester wanted to get rid of Pepe has nothing to do with the reason the studio actually "got rid of him"), and it was added by a troper who was suspended for similar edits (before they were bounced for attempted ban evasion). I've cut it.

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#4814: Nov 27th 2021 at 9:10:00 AM

[up][up][up] That better fits I Knew It!, and Kenny's death is Played for Drama in this special. The Omnicron variant is more of a "bad timing" thing and doesn't really count as Hindsight.

Edited by mightymewtron on Nov 27th 2021 at 12:10:37 PM

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Dramatic Since: Jun, 2012
#4815: Nov 27th 2021 at 10:30:28 PM

It's a work about a zombie apocalypse, that means easy COVID shoehorns!

Dead Rising 2, which is easily one of the stranger ones I've encountered:

  • Harsher in Hindsight: In the game, Carl Schliff is a mailman who's trying to deliver the mail during the outbreak and he attacks Chuck under the belief that he was the terrorist of Fortune City. That, and Carl felt the need to defend himself from Chuck after he threw Carl's bomb back at his cart and blew up the contents. During the Covid-19 pandemic of 2020, postal workers were listed, among many other jobs, as essential workers/frontline workers and they bravely continued their work despite the risks. This makes the fight against Carl all the more tragic, as the likes of Carl would have been lionized for choosing to risk their lives to help others since Carl was delivering essential supplies during a zombie outbreak. It also paints Chuck in a negative light since he was trying to take the Zombrex vaccine for Katey, something that did actually happen during the Covid-19 pandemic since there are multiple incidents of people stealing Covid-19 vaccinations in order to vaccinate themselves.

Carl Schliff, the crazy postman (a well-known character archetype), is harsh because him trying to continue his regular rounds in the middle of the zombie apocalypse would be praised if it was COVID, I guess? This entry also weirdly misrepresents the scene to try and paint Carl as the good guy in order to make the "postmen = heroes" angle work: Chuck wasn't trying to steal Zombrex from him (which isn't even a vaccine btw, just medicine which delays zombification), Carl is the one that instigated the fight by knowingly handing Chuck a live bomb, and since Carl was delivering his parcels to nobody, Chuck isn't denying the Zombrex from anyone when he scavenges his parcels after the fight. Plus Chuck isn't keeping the Zombrex exclusively for his daughter, as there are a few other survivors who need the drug to live. Overall, this entry twists several things to try and make this comparison work, topping it off with a truly bizarre case of Draco in Leather Pants. Cut?

Edited by Dramatic on Nov 27th 2021 at 10:32:05 AM

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#4816: Nov 27th 2021 at 11:42:37 PM

Yeesh. Set it alight.

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TantaMonty Since: Aug, 2017
#4817: Nov 28th 2021 at 8:15:34 AM

Bringing up these examples from Ice Age 2: The Meltdown:

  • Harsher in Hindsight: The entire plot of the film became this in the mid-to-late 2010s, with the effects of global warming and climate change becoming much more noticeable now than they were over a decade before. To say that global warming only became noticeable in the 2010's is blatantly incorrect. The effects of said phenomenon have been studied for over a century, and climate change being classified as a matter of international concern led to the establishment of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change in 1988.
  • Hilarious in Hindsight: The Lone Gunslinger would end up being the first of two vultures voiced by Will Arnett in a Blue Sky Studios film. Actor voices this character in this film, then this other character in this one.

Permission to cut both?

bwburke94 Friends forevermore from uǝʌɐǝɥ Since: May, 2014 Relationship Status: RelationshipOutOfBoundsException: 1
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#4818: Nov 28th 2021 at 8:53:08 AM

[up] Both are cutworthy.

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SkylaNoivern Since: Sep, 2016
#4819: Nov 28th 2021 at 1:43:54 PM

Hilarious In Hindsight on YMMV.Saints Row The Third. The indentation being wrong is how it is on the entry.

  • Hilarious in Hindsight:
    • During an Idle Animation, Caucasian Female Boss will say she may go into politics once the conflict with the Syndicate was over. Guess what happens in the next game. Keep. The Boss being president in IV is a central part of the game.
    • The news report following "Air Steelport" mentions that the explosions were not due to an alien invasion. Guess what. Unsure. Leaning on cut? Seems a bit coincidental.
      • On a related note, there's also the fact that thanks to Jimmy Torbitson, the Boss gets a full taste of power in the final mission for The Trouble With Clones. Yeah, about that... No context.
      • Russian Boss openly admits to wanting to have sex with Pierce in front of a live studio audience. As of the fourth game, Boss can romance Pierce, along with the rest of the Saints (though the Russian Boss option is unavailable in that game). Keep.
    • Boss is, evidently, a Top Gun fan and has a huge crush on Burt Reynolds. Not only is Archer also both of these, Reynolds would later appear in the episode The Man From Jupiter. Seems like Fan Myopia?
    • The paralyzing fear one quest giver has of mascots almost seems sane and rational in the light of Five Nights at Freddy's. Cut? Being afraid of mascots isn't something new, and the series always pokes fun at them.
    • While Deus Ex: Human Revolution came out a few months before Saints III (and even had a sequel that was sadly an Acclaimed Flop), it wouldn't be until Cyberpunk 2077 where Matt's and the Deckers' fashion sense would finally catch on again. Cut. Cyberpunk fashion has always been around.
    • Zimos is voiced by Alex Desert, who was a regular in the 1990 live-action adaptation of The Flash, and reprised his role of Julio Mendez (albeit as an alternate-universe/alternate-timeline counterpart) in the 2014 Flash series. Shaundi's VO for The Third onwards, Danielle Nicolet, began appearing as Cecile Horton later on in that show's run. Unsure.
    • After completing the City Takeover gameplay in Deckers territory, Kinzie will call and tell you that she got pancakes from Smiling Jack's in an attempt to be normal. Pancakes, you say? Fan Myopia.

Dramatic Since: Jun, 2012
#4820: Nov 28th 2021 at 2:53:52 PM

[up] Agree with all of these.

  • Boss is, evidently, a Top Gun fan...
If the Boss and Archer both behave in a similar way towards Burt Reynolds then this might count, but I don't know enough about Archer to confirm.
  • The paralyzing fear one quest giver has of mascots...
Creepy Mascot Suit is a trope, and the horror potential of mascots has been around for a long time; it's not just a FNAF thing.
  • Zimos is voiced by Alex Desert, who...
This one's an actor shoehorn without any connective tissue beyond 'actors in this game were also in this other thing'.

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#4821: Nov 28th 2021 at 7:16:49 PM

On YMMV.Futurama, for "Funny Aneurysm" Moment:

  • One of Calculon's lines in "Thief of Baghead" had him insisting he could kill anyone he wants because of his celebrity status. In recent years, on-set kills have become much more common, such as Alec Baldwin facing backlash for killing Haylyna Hutchins with a loaded gun.

I'm pretty sure onset kills existed long before the Rust incident. Just off the top of my head, two other arguably most famous onset deaths — Vic Marrow and Brandon Lee, the latter of which being an accidental murder similar to the Rust case — long predate this episode.

(Speaking of Futurama, keep an eye on that page — the Omicron variant has attracted a lot of "Omicron Persei 8" jokes, and while it's a common joke, I don't know if it's HIH yet, since it's apparently an existing letter of the Greek alphabet and we don't yet know how much of an impact this variant will have on the connotations of "Omicron.")

Edited by mightymewtron on Nov 28th 2021 at 10:19:22 AM

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#4822: Nov 28th 2021 at 7:22:46 PM

What's Omnicron?

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#4824: Nov 29th 2021 at 9:11:28 AM

we should add a new algorithm that prevents people from adding examples related to recent events.

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#4825: Nov 29th 2021 at 10:05:57 AM

[up] There's no feasible way to do that. Blocking the word "omicron" would give too many false positives, even without any risk of a Scunthorpe Problem.

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