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Welcome to the Trope Pantheons thread! Please read the rules:

    Rules 
Rules. The following are not suggestions or tips, but things that have to be followed:
  • When writing a profile, take note of the following:
    • Gods cannot be followers or high priests for obvious reasons. The 'gods' have ascended meaning there is no need for said character to be a follower of another if they have ascended.
    • No hype profiles, please. 'Hype Profiles' are profiles that have been made out of ongoing events and have not been around for a long time. This creates 'hype' due to popularity and certain elements either through certain scenes, memes, dramatic acting or considered overly awesome. They are not bad tropes but building a portfolio solely for that is a bad idea, as they do not say a thing about representing the trope best (unless it's those trope concepts that they are trying to embody for a long time)
      • You can see one if the profile is only showing off how awesome they are or suddenly pushing how 'significant' they are thanks to the just very recent events rather than respecting the longstanding good representations of the trope. And usually having... minimum portfolio or flavor texts and being a bit too generalized or self-contained to events from within their home series instead of interacting with other Pantheon members.
  • When posting in the forum, take note of the following:
    • When you suggest a God, please explain why they fit the trope. Not everyone is going to understand just "X should be the God of Y because they exemplify the trope" off the bat, especially if they're unfamiliar with the work.
    • You must use the Trope Pantheons discussion thread in the forums if you wish to add a new deity, story, something else of importance to the Trope Pantheon canon, or reworking an existing deity (be it simply improving their existing profile or changing their title).
      • For new and reworked deities, 3 [tup] means the profile will have a one week waiting period.
      • For new and reworked deities, 4 [tup] is a 3 day waiting period.
      • 5 [tup] is an automatic ascension for new and reworked deities.
      • Speaking of reworks, for anyone that wants to improve such profiles, they have to review the current trope the character(s) has and see if it still holds up or if there is a better rep for their trope.
    • For adding new Treasures to The Great Treasury or new Dominions to the Dominions, the following rules apply:
      • For new Treasures or Dominions, 3 [tup] is a 3 day waiting period.
      • 4 [tup] is an automatic addition to the Great Treasury or Dominions.
    • Do not repost a profile in the forums more than twice in a day if noticeable changes have not been made in between. If a profile is posted a third time in a row without noticeable alterations, it will be downvoted. This is so spamming of no-effort profiles is less frequent and to prevent tropers from getting aggravated seeing the same profile over and over. The minimum acceptable change has to be a single flavour text.
    • The Pantheon is not a mouthpiece for you to voice your opinions on certain characters. You may like certain characters more than others, but do not make the mistake of making profiles for characters you like look like Character Shilling.
    • Tropers new to the Pantheon are barred from approving or downvoting profiles until they have ascended at least two profiles.
    • Do not include fan reception in any profiles. It has nothing to do with the character themselves and will create unnecessary conflict.
    • Write a detailed explanation on why the character is the best candidate for deity of that trope. If people disagree with you, do not force it on the people.
    • Keep in mind that if you still want to try to find a trope for a particular character, you are only given three chances to find a particular trope for them. If a suggestion goes past three possible tropes, then it will come off as shoehorning a character into the Pantheon just for the sake of that character to be there.
      • On a related note, even if a character does have a free trope being suggested, there is still a limit of three attempts for suggesting that character for that trope. If no one responds to that certain proposal after being posted three times, then it will get to the point where the idea will be seen as being shoehorned into the Pantheon. In addition, the idea needs to be considered acceptable and approved because they are good, not for the sake of pitying others because no one is responding to their idea.
  • When posting Pantheon related stuff to the wiki, take note of the following:
    • Do not put a link to these Pantheon pages into the main wiki page. The moment you want to add in a main Characters page that the character is a God of this trope, do not do it. If you see leftovers of this practice, inform the forum and use the cutlist. This also goes to the Trivia page. The only exception to this rule is if a page in the Pantheon could be confused for a page in Main, like Good Colors, Evil Colors and Good and Evil Colors.
    • Rule of Cautious Editing Judgment ALSO applies here. Do not bring things that would incite fights, even if it is what is currently the hot topic and might be 'urgent'. For example, the political scene and some really bad politicians. We are not here to fight at each other, so don't suggest things that go to that direction, this is a fictional Pantheon after all.
    • To add a Pantheon page for a certain work, 4 or more characters coming from the same series/franchise should be ascended before adding the page. For Creator specific pages, 4 deities coming from the same creator and 2 individual work pages coming from the same creator is the minimum to warrant a page.
    • Do not create a trope page for a story until the story is fully completed.

    Instructions and Tips 
Here are some tips one should keep in mind when editing:

  • Preparing to write:
    • First thing to do before present a profile is to go to the Trope Pantheons discussion thread. In the forums, you must discuss with other users on adding ideas and seek their approval with sound reasoning. You can also get some assistance in the forum thread by either asking for help and those interested asking if they can help. Submissions that are added without discussion are likely to be deleted and those who violate those rules by adding Pantheon content without discussion will get reported to the mods.
    • If you feel the need to remove a character for some reason (poor quality, outdated titles, etcetera) and replace him/her with another or outright rework, please see what the other tropers think about this in the discussion thread before doing anything hasty. Use good reasoning to see if your idea can easily replace the character present without drawing out your statement or giving too ambiguous claims most do not understand.
    • Please be sure to consult others in the discussion about what you want to work before making the profile. This is done to see if your proposal is the best representative and so, in case your profile is turned down, you do not waste time writing something that others might not find suitable.
      • In the same vein, if you adopt a profile from another troper, it is recommended that you make an announcement that you have done so on the discussion thread. More often than not, a trope that was reserved for something was given away to someone else. Check the Related tab on the top of a page to see if a trope or character has been reserved by a user.
    • If, for whatever reason, you are writing about a God who just happens to be a person in real life, just try to be very careful about what you decide to say. Do not try to make the editing seem too meta (self-referential) and use the aformentioned creativity to create hypothetical scenarios towards fictional characters.
  • When writing a profile for a character, here are a few things to note:
    • All deities should be sorted by their divine ranking. Put Overdeities on the top of the page and Quasideities on the bottom. Also be sure to add them in alphabetical order by their first/given name (can be reversed if it is Eastern ordered). For a group, if there is no official name for them all list down all their names by order of relevance or (if too long to list) title them as Insert Name Here Main Characters or some other identifiable title along the same lines.
    • The maximum number of tropes that a god can have is two, but do not try to abuse that fact. If you need to use a second trope to specify a certain thing about their position, that can be excused either because said character represents their trope choice very well alongside the first trope. It is still generally encouraged to only have one trope.
    • A trope can only belong to one profile at a time. The only time two profiles can share a trope is if there are explicit variations listed in the trope page proper (e.g. Muscle Angst is held by both Biscuit Krueger and Chihiro Fujisaki as the former represents "Too Much Muscle" and the latter represents "Not Enough Muscle")
    • If the character you are about to add to a House already exists in another, make sure to mention that this person has spots in other House as well. Up to 2 places can be made for a deity, with the sole exceptions being those at the Main House to highlight those characters’ importance to the Pantheon’s lore.
    • For a character's theme song, try to avoid calling it "Theme of God X" or "Theme of (Show where God X originates from)". If possible, try to find out if the song has an actual name through research. Most importantly, it has to be part their series’ official soundtracks from media. Do not list songs that are made by fans or outside sources. If they were not specifically used as music for that specific character, then they do not count. Furthermore, it has to be a general theme specifically made for that characters’ appearances, not some generic music that plays for many other instances not related to the character in question.
    • For images, when adding an image for your chosen character, it is highly recommended to use a stylized image that embodies the character or renders that also highlights a character’s behavior (such as cool poses). Most images should be from the main adaptations of the character, unless the images from the other media are of a higher quality than the adaptation. Unless it is needed, do not use fanart for images. If you are, please attribute to the original artist. Due to the website’s dark mode, removing white backgrounds from an image is paramount. This website is suggested to do the background removal. If an image you have takes up too much bytes, it is suggestible to use this site to reduce the byte size. If the byte is still too big, put the compressed image to other sites (or even the same one) to compress even further. Use wikias to look for better images, as even wikias for the series might not contain good official images.
    • Creativity is your friend. While it is not recommended to get too ditzy at your ideas, it is best that when writing a profile for a certain character, do you think of capable scenarios between X and Y. Tip: do not use shallow examples (X wields a sword and Y wields one too) and try to think of relationships that makes sense (i.e those characters that are shout-outs for another).
  • Pantheon Content:
    • Some series or genres will eventually have greater representation in the Pantheon than others. This is unavoidable, but a little diversity helps to make you not look like a shill per say. Try to ensure that if you add a deity from a popular series, make sure that it is because they are a good representative for the trope in question, and not just because they are connected to another deity in their respective canon.
      • As far as deities from actual mythologies, there is generally expectation to build the profiles off interactions from fictional portrays rather than basing it entire from the actual myth. Therefore, a mythological deity should be more of a Composite Character whose main identity is from the actual myth.
    • Occasionally there will be Gods that carry a title without a trope. This is not forbidden, but it is well advised not to abuse them. The only house that a tropeless profile are wholly allowed is the House of Food. Mainly due to most food items lacking tropes, and adding tropes about said foodstuffs is slightly unnecessary. However, the character being ascended for their choice of a food, or food-related thing must be a decently good representative of said item. (i.e their Trademark Favorite Food, or something that they are closely associated with In-Universe, or both).
    • For Dominions and Treasures profiles, always consider what made those places/objects popular in the first place. Were they plot-important, identifiable imagery or have a unique aspect of it? Do not just bring regular objects under the basis of following a certain canon.
  • For Profile Standards:
    • Flavor text is used to describe certain things about a character, place or object. To avoid short ones, it is recommended to write flavor text with 4-7 sentences that can fill around 2 lines each. Be warned that adding too many sentences does not equal good flavor text as it is not an essay of sorts (unless words are substantial and do add to the overall line).
    • Character Profiles of a certain person should have the following:
      • A portfolio that contains at least 7 (at the minimum) tropes describing their character.
      • Flavor text count for a deity profile should have by minimum, 10 (depending if the character in question has enough relationships/characterization) to 15 with a maximum of 20-25 for an individual profile.
      • On the other hand, group profiles (profiles of a group that has 4 or more members) have their maximum flavor text count to 15 minimum, giving individual lines for the other members of the group (unless the members are not as characterized) up to 30 at max.
    • Dominion profiles of a certain place should have the following:
      • A portfolio that contains at least 5 (at the minimum) tropes describing the context of the place.
      • Flavor text count should range at least 10 to 15.
    • Treasure profiles (inanimate objects without a trope) should have the following:
      • A portfolio that contains at least 6 (at the minimum) tropes that describes the object itself.
      • Flavor text count should be at least 7 flavor text up to 12 to constitute a treasure profile.

    Divine Ranking System 
  • Overdeity: Omnipotent-level Reality Warpers capable of manipulating the entire universe (or at least the world) at will. Within their own universe they are believed to be omnipotent, or at least impossible-to-completely-destroy embodiments or concepts.
  • Greater Gods: High-level Reality Warpers and that are extremely powerful (capable of destroying or changing anywhere from a large city to a planet at will) and very strong non-reality warpers capable of doing the same thing.
  • Intermediate Gods: Deities at this level are capable of strong but specialized powers such as hydrokinesis, pyrokinesis, etc. without major drawbacks and low level Reality Warpers capable of affecting their immediate area at will.
  • Lesser Gods: Capable of highly specific or little power on their own, or suffer from Power at a Price. However, they may be able to ruthlessly exploit their power or combine it with just being badass enough to make up for it.
  • Demigods: Basically the Badass Normals of the pantheon, making up for their lack of abilities with strength, strategy, and/or planning.
  • Quasideities: Any otherwise normal human, human equivalent, or below without any special powers or training will fall here.

    Templates 
Template for adding a new deity:

God X, God/dess of (Insert Trope Here) (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

  • An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
  • Rank: This can range from Quasideity, Demigod, Lesser God, Intermediate God, Greater God, to Overdeity, based on representation of power mentioned above.
  • Symbol: An image or icon used to represent the deity.
  • Theme Song: Official song (in other words, no fan music, regardless of quality) that usually is used in affiliation with the character. If the deity is a musician this will most likely be their Signature Song. If possible, give a link for reference, preferably on either a website like Soundcloud or YouTube.
  • Alignment: Good, evil, neutral etc. Forget about The Great Character Alignment Debate here, the Pantheon is one of the few places where you can assign Dungeons & Dragons alignment to characters that don't have alignment system. After all, the Pantheon is based on D&D and is made for fun.
  • For Pokémon deities only:
    • Gender: Defines the gender of the Pokémon; if genderless, it instead defines what gender they identify as.
    • Ability: Provides the Pokémon's ability. If they can Mega Evolve, the new ability is listed as well.
    • Moves: Defines the four moves used by a Pokémon. A Z-Move may also be listed.
  • Portfolio: Tropes associated with the character.
  • Domains: Things that the character has influence over.
  • Herald: Non-ascended loyal character that is from the same series as the ascended character.
  • High Priest: Non-ascended like heralds, but not from the same series, and can serve as a worthy replacement in case something would happen. They can be served as part-time workers in case the originals are busy with some jobs. Co-Godhood is accepted depending on the approval of the originals, usually if the co-deity is from the same series.
  • Followers: Non-ascended characters that are not part of the Pantheon, but would probably worship this character by the fact that they share the ascended character's trope.
  • Relationships between ascended characters go here with your chosen character, it goes something like this:
    • Allies: Members of the Pantheon that are allies, those that share the same values as them and would theoretically be friends with them.
    • Rivals: Members of the Pantheon that are rivals, people who may look at your character with suspicion or a challenge.
    • Enemies: Members of the Pantheon that are foes, those who would see your chosen character as a threat, either on their pespective or yours.
    • Additional Character Relationships: Members of the Pantheon that do not fit in various relationships (examples include Enemy Mine, Vitriolic Best Buds, Teeth-Clenched Teamwork, Headbutting Heroes, Friendly Enemy, Friendly Rival, Just Friends, etc.), allies, rivals, or enemies.
    • Partner: Defines a partnership with an ascended deity and Mon-type. (if any)
    • Feared by/Fears: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon notably fear or are feared by.
    • Respected by/Respects: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon respect or are respected by.
    • Opposed by/Opposes: Not necessarily the same as "Enemies", but this is used for any deity whom the members of the Pantheon directly opposes or is opposed by (basically the opposite of "Respects") terms of certain viewpoints, regardless of alignment.
    • Pitied by/Pities: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon feel pity for or are found pitiable by.
    • Conflicting Opinion: Sometimes, the Deities argue over specific themes and philosophies.
  • Add the Intro. The intro is made up of two trivia, the Ascension Text (or just the Ascension) and The Bio. Both are necessary, but which order you use for them may vary depending on the profile in question. It may be better for one profile to have The Bio first and the Ascension second or vice-versa, although for the most part the order is irrelevant:
    • The Ascension Text: This the story of how the character got into the Pantheon and/or was ascended. There are many ways for this to happen. They may be tricked into it or have simply wandered into the Pantheon, they may have had an already ascended character bring them in, they may already be in the Pantheon (via being another deity's Herald or sharing a trope) and got "promoted", or some combination of the above. Anything is possible in the Pantheon, so use your imagination, but try to incorporate their trope into the story, if possible.
    • The Bio: A brief synopsis on the character's backstory. No need for the character's entire life/production history, but just give enough that those who don't know the character can get an idea of how the character works.
  • Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
  • And some more trivia/facts.
  • And a couple of more.
    • Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Deities/Characters is 10-15 (15-20 for group profiles) at minimum to 20-25 (30 for group profiles) at maximum.

Template for Dominions profiles:

Place X, Place of (Insert Trope Here) (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

  • An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
  • Theme Song (Optional): Not important as compared to Deity and Dominion profiles but a notable mention if there is an accompanying song in use with the object.
  • Alignment: Refers to the dominion's role in their story, be it those used by villains or used by the Player Character.
  • Portfolio: Tropes associated with the dominion.
  • Domains: Things that the place has links to.
  • Relationships (Optional): Unless the location has a connection with a specific deity, relationships are optional and may not be required. However, if there are deities linked to the same series as where the dominion is linked to, note them using the relationships, this includes deities that theoretically have interest with said dominion, good or evil otherwise.
  • Add the Intro. Here the introduction of the Dominion is added with some tidbits regarding the origins of its' creation and usage in the story. You can also add what made it popular/iconic/important here.
  • Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
  • And some more trivia/facts.
  • And a couple of more.
    • Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Dominions is 10 at minimum to 15 at maximum.

Template for Treasure profiles:

The name of the item in here (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

  • An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
  • Appearance: A shortened description of the item's looks with some notable features also mentioned.
  • Class: Refer to the Treasure Classification System in the Great Treasury.
  • Alignment: Refers to the objects' role in their story, be it those used by villains or used by the Player Character.
  • Theme Song (Optional): Not important as compared to Deity and Dominion profiles but a notable mention if there is an accompanying song in use with the object.
  • Museum Check: A note that says whether the item is viewable by the public.
  • Portfolio: Tropes associated with the item.
  • Domains: Things that the item has links to.
  • Relationships (Optional): Unless the item has a connection with a specific deity, relationships are optional and may not be required. However, if there are deities linked to the same series as where the item is linked to (especially the original owner of the item), note them using the relationships, this includes deities that theoretically have interest with said object, good or evil otherwise.
  • Add the Intro. Here the introduction of the Treasure is added with some tidbits regarding the origins of its' creation and usage in the story. You can also add what made it popular/iconic/important here.
  • Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
  • And some more trivia/facts.
  • And a couple of more.
    • Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Treasures is 7 at minimum to 12 at maximum.

Edited by Willbyr on May 24th 2021 at 7:52:09 AM

HamanaHamanaHamana Dog or Oni? (Bitroper)
Dog or Oni?
#188051: Dec 15th 2021 at 7:16:05 PM

@SMT [tup] go ahead with the removals. I'm tired of SMT/Persona hogging the entire spotlight for once (and don't think that other franchises should also take that spot, keep that in mind).

I swear Loid, you can't draw worth shit!
Bazzardreturns The Marked Prince from Canada Since: Jun, 2016 Relationship Status: In love with love
The Marked Prince
#188052: Dec 15th 2021 at 7:17:48 PM

[up] Of course not. Gotta keep things fair and distributed.

Time to explore the world!
RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from Australia Since: Feb, 2015
#188053: Dec 15th 2021 at 7:25:41 PM

[tdown]for removing them...at least for now. While some are pretty poor, a lot aren't or could potentially be regrouped. At the very least salvage them somewhere so they can be re-evaluated if necessary

VengefulBale Dagded Dujardin from The Universe (it's his room) Since: Feb, 2016 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Dagded Dujardin
#188054: Dec 15th 2021 at 7:27:12 PM

[up] I literally said in the post that I am pointing these profiles out so people can tell me if they want to salvage anything from the list, RJ.

"Bingo! If two species hate each other, they will wipe each other out on their own."
Bazzardreturns The Marked Prince from Canada Since: Jun, 2016 Relationship Status: In love with love
The Marked Prince
#188055: Dec 15th 2021 at 7:27:46 PM

[up] Exactly! Sort through and clear out the worst of the worst and rework the salvageable ones. That way more tropes are freed.

And before I forget, [tup] for the cleanup of SMT.

Edited by Bazzardreturns on Dec 15th 2021 at 7:33:15 AM

Time to explore the world!
CrimsonShark Mr. Tahiti Plan der Linde from The Internet of Loneliness and Beyond Since: Nov, 2018 Relationship Status: One Is The Loneliest Number
Mr. Tahiti Plan der Linde
#188056: Dec 15th 2021 at 7:34:16 PM

@Bale - Welp, this turned out to be a sizable nuke.

Anyway, sure to the deletions [tup], considering just how bad and messy these profiles are. That said if you're willing to save up whatever profile interests you, mention them right now and store the draft into your sandbox or personal document.

@TPPR - Can I really be honest for one moment? You. Are. Not. Helping. Your. Case. Seriously, all you do at this point is make short comments and complaints which either are ignored or are debunked because your reasoning honestly seems weak and then you can't even devote some energy to making a profile draft, which speaking of, is really bereft of content quality and you've been doing nothing in regards to general contribution or aid. And to me, that's a detriment to the Pantheon.

I'll be nice for a moment; you can pick yourself up and make a vow to do better and better your content because I don't like to state that you should give up. But if you're not going to change, well then I don't have a comment to make.

Edited by CrimsonShark on Dec 15th 2021 at 3:36:28 PM

"Money is the goddamn plan! Have some faith, y'all!"
Rmpdc Ghoulish Brain Worm from Philippines Since: May, 2015 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Ghoulish Brain Worm
#188057: Dec 15th 2021 at 7:53:02 PM

[tup] for the SMT cutlist, but reduce it to the bottom of the barrel profiles.

"We are gonna sit here and take it! You hear me!? We're gonna take it!"
RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from Australia Since: Feb, 2015
#188058: Dec 15th 2021 at 7:55:21 PM

@ Vengeful Bale: Apologies for misinterpreting. Here is my opinion piece with SMT. Though I should point out I feel more of the complaints are related to their impact on the story side

OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#188059: Dec 15th 2021 at 8:01:20 PM

Fine with [up] dropping section as well. Shekinah could be incorporated into YHVH all things considered since she’s just him but female.

Edit: Tiamat could definitely be a composite profile covering her across multiple franchises.

Edited by OmegaRadiance on Dec 15th 2021 at 8:22:46 AM

Every accusation by the GOP is ALWAYS a confession.
TPPR10 Shocking Gun! from out of nowhere Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Shocking Gun!
#188060: Dec 15th 2021 at 8:02:06 PM

[up]x4 You really want to get personal with me? Then I will say it: maybe the "old Pantheon" was better than whatever it is now. Back then it was true Just For Fun activity. You come in and suggest your thing, draft up something and submit and there, that is that. Maybe it wasn't that simple, but it was still fun. But now there are too many houses, too many gods and just too much everything. Everyone is demanding so much more and are not satisfied with what is already there. This thread already had one phrase where it was trying to make a hard limit to gods per work, but that was shot down. But now people are are thumbing up deleting like 90% of gods from one work.

I admit that I have had a bit of a fatigue of working on Pantheon stuff before this point, and I do admit that there are bunch of things I really should do, in general. But at the same time, it feels like none of the things you guys are pushing particularly motivates me. Like I would try to rework some stuff, but then I feel like none of you guys would actually approve any of them.

If I'm being frank, the only reason why I am still sticking around is because I am like the last of the "old guard" this thread still has. I was there when these discussions happened in page discussions. The only one who isn't a mod who posts here is like Magnum, and none of you guys seem to really like them that much. I don't have much else to do what doesn't involve everyone saying to me to "git gud". In a sense I probably should just jump ship and leave since there isn't much I can provide anymore. But I guess this place is fun to look back on? I don't know.

Edited by TPPR10 on Dec 15th 2021 at 6:02:27 PM

Continue the bloodline, Fujimaru!
WhirlRX Since: Jan, 2015
Necromancer10 Buddy from Crakcarz, the Continent of Wacky Necromancers Since: May, 2019 Relationship Status: Browsing the selection
Buddy
#188062: Dec 15th 2021 at 8:17:57 PM

[tup] for the SMT cleanup. If some of the profiles removed really warranted staying, they'll find their way back in anyway. It's not like we're banning SMT characters from being re-added with current Pantheon's standards.

Edited by Necromancer10 on Dec 15th 2021 at 11:22:06 AM

Beep-beep
Excessive-Menace uwu from the Velvet Cage (Not-So-Newbie) Relationship Status: Dancing with myself
uwu
#188063: Dec 15th 2021 at 8:18:52 PM

@Vengeful

Out of the list, I'd like to reserve the Demifiend, Labrys, Nanako Dojima, Vincent Brooks, and the Devil Survivor cast.

@TPPR

To be honest, if you feel like you're having a hard time catching up with the new standards, have little-to-no motivation/time/energy to work on the project, and keep getting into arguments with others here, it would be a good idea to just retire from the Trope Pantheons. Sometimes a project just outgrows you in scope, or you just lose much interest in working on it, and that's okay. It's fine to let go of something you're once fond of and find something else to occupy your time if it doesn't give you much joy anymore.

Edited by Excessive-Menace on Dec 15th 2021 at 8:21:49 AM

THE GOLDEN AGE WILL RETURN AGAIN!
HamanaHamanaHamana Dog or Oni? (Bitroper)
Dog or Oni?
#188064: Dec 15th 2021 at 8:22:25 PM

@TPPR You forget Faso and rlock are part of the old guard. Oh and if I have to be quite frank, not all of us like each other in the project like you think it is. Personally speaking, I have a habit of calling out terrible ideas/annoying users in the project with blunt precision and I'm fine with it not to mention the whole nepotism some of us have to deal with. The Pantheon can't be sunshine and mirrors, and honestly, which thing isn't at this point, even the website itself changed to the point it becomes tedium at times.

Edited by HamanaHamanaHamana on Dec 16th 2021 at 12:23:38 AM

I swear Loid, you can't draw worth shit!
WhirlRX Since: Jan, 2015
#188065: Dec 15th 2021 at 8:27:35 PM

[up]The Old Guard comment is that TPPR was here from the beginning. Faso and Lock came such later but they are season makers. Its like TPPR is the Original X-Men and Lock/Faso are the New X-Men of the 80s.

VengefulBale Dagded Dujardin from The Universe (it's his room) Since: Feb, 2016 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Dagded Dujardin
#188066: Dec 15th 2021 at 8:34:42 PM

Alright. Before anything else here's the update list with reserved deities-to be. I got approvals for the deletions already so this is a last minute call for any more changes anyone wishes to make. If anyone wants to update/rework profiles, take your chances to back them up now.

    Murder List 

  • Shin Megami Tensei
    • Matador (RJ, reserve)
    • Alice (RJ, reserve)
    • Stephen (Azure, reserve)
    • Marie
    • Nanako Dojima
    • Satan (Azure, reserve)
    • Metatron (RJ, reserve)
    • Mara
    • Kazuya
    • The Fiends (Azure, reserve)
    • Naoki Kashima/Demi-Fiend (Excessive, reserve)
    • Aleph (RJ, rework)
    • Stephen
    • Reaper
    • Chiaki Hayasaka, Isamu Nitta and Hikawa
    • Jack Frost
    • Nyarlatholep
    • Philemon
    • Reaper
    • Ryoji Mochizuki (RJ, reserve)
    • Labrys (Excessive, reserve)
    • Sho Minazuki
    • Zen and Rei
    • Thomas Mutton
    • Vincent Brooks (Excessive, reserve)
    • Embryon Tribe

  • Shin Megami Tensei Strange Journey
    • Jimenez (RJ, rework)
    • Tadano Hitonari
    • Shekinah
    • Mem Aleph
    • Zelenin

  • Shin Megami Tensei IV
    • Nanashi and Dagda
    • Burroughs (RJ, reserve)
    • Isabeau (RJ, reserve)
    • The White
    • The Divine Powers

  • Persona 4
    • Nanako Dojima (Excessive, reserve)
    • Tohru Adachi (Excessive, reserve)
    • Ameno-Sagiri
    • Izanami (RJ, reserve)
    • Marie (RJ, reserve)

  • Persona 5
    • Sojiro Sakura
    • Chihaya Mifune
    • Hifumi Togo
    • Yalbadaoth

  • Devil Survivor
    • Kazuya & Hibiki (Excessive, reserve)
    • Naoya (Excessive, reserve)
    • Yamato Houshin (Excessive, reserve)
    • Alcor (Excessive, reserve)
    • Admins (Excessive, reserve)

Edited by VengefulBale on Dec 15th 2021 at 11:14:47 AM

"Bingo! If two species hate each other, they will wipe each other out on their own."
CrimsonShark Mr. Tahiti Plan der Linde from The Internet of Loneliness and Beyond Since: Nov, 2018 Relationship Status: One Is The Loneliest Number
Mr. Tahiti Plan der Linde
#188067: Dec 15th 2021 at 8:35:22 PM

Old Guard, New Guard, it doesn't matter. Things and circumstances change, it is inevitable, and all we can do is to either adapt and get used to our new surroundings or give up.

And if we're going to apply this to the Pantheon, well, you can say that to just about every other thing in the universe. Rules and quality standards were added and heightened, we had to take action. Some endured, some dropped out for varying reasons, and new contributors joined in. And if the newer users are shown to be better at applying the rules and standards that have been provided, then we're to be the mascots and to inspire others to join along.

Sure, the old days are fun, but you know the old saying, nothing lasts forever. And yeah, just make the most of it.

[down][down] Just letting you know, I didn't call myself a mascot, just stating that that's how things work in life.

Edited by CrimsonShark on Dec 15th 2021 at 4:48:38 PM

"Money is the goddamn plan! Have some faith, y'all!"
Excessive-Menace uwu from the Velvet Cage (Not-So-Newbie) Relationship Status: Dancing with myself
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HamanaHamanaHamana Dog or Oni? (Bitroper)
Dog or Oni?
#188069: Dec 15th 2021 at 8:39:38 PM

[up][up]I'll be blunt but if you are saying that someone should be a mascot, it most definitely isn't you. r-lock and wootzits are more qualified thanks to their catalogue being well researched and well chosen.

[down]Neither is having favoritism among the ranks of the project.

Edited by HamanaHamanaHamana on Dec 16th 2021 at 12:44:21 AM

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Bazzardreturns The Marked Prince from Canada Since: Jun, 2016 Relationship Status: In love with love
The Marked Prince
#188070: Dec 15th 2021 at 8:42:00 PM

[up] Ouch man. We ain’t no mascots. Just people. And we’re all equals in our own rights. All that matters to me is that we at least treat people with respect. But we shouldn’t be afraid of critiquing others of their follies.

But of course. Hence why you have trouble swallowing your pride and aiding us. Also. You do realize that A. Crimson didn’t say he was a mascot and B. You just pointed out your favouritism right then and there.

Edited by Bazzardreturns on Dec 15th 2021 at 8:48:05 AM

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227someguy I hate spoilers Since: Jul, 2018
I hate spoilers
#188071: Dec 15th 2021 at 9:02:08 PM

@Clovis I noticed that you're currently working on Funny Valentine's rework. I would recommend The Phantom Thieves of Hearts as enemies. FV is the leader of a country who is implied to be a Not-So-Well-Intentioned Extremist, a Big Bad, and has an Attempted Rape on a teenager. It brings to mind two Complete Monsters in Persona 5.

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AzureLegacy Since: Sep, 2018
#188072: Dec 15th 2021 at 9:12:40 PM

@Vengeful Bale I actually have The Fiends currently reserved, but I'd also like to reserve Stephen, and SMT Satan.

Edited by AzureLegacy on Dec 15th 2021 at 12:21:33 PM

VengefulBale Dagded Dujardin from The Universe (it's his room) Since: Feb, 2016 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Dagded Dujardin
#188073: Dec 15th 2021 at 9:15:11 PM

Guess that's the last of it. Anymore opinions before the page ends and I start the purge?

"Bingo! If two species hate each other, they will wipe each other out on their own."
M1gamiTensei The Scrappy of the Trope Pantheon, God of Thumps from Punished “Brainwashed” M1gami Since: Oct, 2017 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Scrappy of the Trope Pantheon, God of Thumps
#188074: Dec 15th 2021 at 9:17:38 PM

The Divine Powers, Nanash and Dagda, the White guys, Mara whose dick jokes I like. Might as well take all of them and give myself a new load. Im not even done with the Hunterxhunter stuff and gotta push back all the reworkings of old profiles I made to next year I guess. Theyll all still their tropes (Divine Powers are boomer religions who got shafted by Abrahamic folk, Apocalypse’s protags are about saying both traditional SMT alignment sucks, White Guys want to give depression, Mara is a chariot dick) but I got ideas for reworks that will be vastly different from the original ideas. Dunno if saving these profiles for reworks are different from proposals.

Speaking of which, three proposals.

Mother Goddesses Members , Deities of Motherly Villain Names (Feel like Mem Aleph’s trope can encompass all of her progeny too. They are mother goddesses in mythology. They think being mothers they can eliminate all of Earth. Doesnt get badder than that.)

Philemon and Nyarlathotep, Deified of Despicable Good and Evil Deities (Philemon and Nyarlathotep arent nice people. One would rather sit back and have horrible things happen while one tries destroying existence. Nobody likes either one.)

Yaldabaoth and EMMA, Personifications of Villainous Order (Yes, Yaldy is a YHVH clone who thinks humans dont want to think anymore and thinks that living in the same miserable world is paradise. It isnt until you notice. EMMA has similar thought and is an unoriginal clone of Yaldy. But she’s SIRI, so she’s programmed to make sure humans dont make choices for themselves. One is society, one is technology. Persona is so deep guys)

Also, random ideas that was already taken but recommending these ideas anyhow to the reservers.

Naoki Kashima, God of Superbosses (Every game where you fight Demifiend and I know its two which is not a lot, Demifiend is a complete psycho to fight. He can end the battle in his opening attack, so its a puzzle in of itself to not get killed by him in one go. You get broken abilities when beating him, but beating Demi Fiend is seen as a feat in of itself. Like this trope change than the one Demi Lavato has now)

The FiendsMembers , Demons of Vulnerable Death Entities (I dont know why Matador and Alice are separated when theyre Fiends too. The Fiends in SMT represent Death most of the time, with an assortment of skills to emphasize that. But they are still killable and though the herald the end of times, its a point that you gotta murder them whenever they show up. Also, yes, I know Matador and Alice are reserved but again, they are the same race as Fiends. Yes, this was taken and I got an outdated list. But I feel its more consistent to fuse all of these Fiend members.)

Edited by M1gamiTensei on Dec 15th 2021 at 9:33:55 AM

Pantheon server for all who click here. Freaking lost $410 and I am hunting down for a nuke to reign down.
OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#188075: Dec 15th 2021 at 9:20:55 PM

Now I don’t think that’s entirely fair to Yaldy.

His oppressive regime would ensure people are at least clothed, fed, and will, well, live. He can’t rule over them with an iron fist if they all die! Emma leaves them lobotimized and would over time kill them just from not covering their basic needs to live.

I agree they could both be combined. She’s essentially his shoddy knockoff successor, and hilariously would be bad at the very job she believes people want from her.

Edited by OmegaRadiance on Dec 15th 2021 at 9:23:42 AM

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