The Place for Purging Porn and Pedo-Pandering (AKA P5 flag evaluations)

Quite a long fic to get through. I will take a look when I get my computer back. That said, cut that example it's incorrect.

Can we just get Zoe The Vampire out of here already? Not just because it's graphic porn of a character who just turned 18 while she looks like she's 13, but the page is terribly written and borders on being a stub anyway.

I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.

Just needs one more vote, if someone wants to jump on.

Huh, I thought that one was already done for how blatant it was. Sure, threw it in.

Edited by Adannor on Feb 24th 2021 at 1:15:49 PM

Dope. Cutlisting it as it's at three devilheads.

I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.

Closed the report. Good work everyone.

Except for the fact that no lock requests, requests to update the list of cutlocked pages etc. were sent, I guess...

Anyhow, if the 5P tool works again I'll compile a list of things that need processing:

• Two devils: Spaceship Agga Ruter (see below), Breakfast With Sister, Brogulls (see below), Bumrape Island, Dawn Of The Silver Dragon (see below), The Human Centipede Love At First Bite, Porno Superstar, Spy Of Darkness (see below), Tales Of Schlock
• Two devils and one angel: Breakfast Club, Fish In The Trap (see below)
• One devil: Amat Omnes, Here Comes The Three Angels (see below), Jiburiru (see below), Makunouchi Deluxe (see below), Masou Gakuen HXH (see below), Microcosm, Mr. Arashi's Amazing Freak Show (see below), Pink De Pink, Pro Heros Muscular Harems, Sad Satan, Saikin Imouto no Yousu ga Chotto Okashiinda ga, Stockholm, Creator.Suehiro Maruo, Tsugumomo
• No icons: The Ass Goblins of Auschwitz, Body Bags (see below), Cuties (see below), Dark Elf Historia, Enzai (see below), Eromanga Sensei, Everybody Loves Marinette (see below), Female Transfiguration 101, Hammered Down, Himegoto, Holey Matrimony, Infernal Tales A Helltaker Story, Intercourse with You (see below), In the Realm of the Senses, Izukus Pro Hero Harem Life, The Journal Entries, Kaede The Eliminator, Killing Stalking (see below), The King Of The Hill Episode 1 Peggys Revenge, Knight of Lolicon (see below), Magna Clades, Moshi ASMR (see below), Off the Cuff, Omujo Omutsu Joshi, The Power of Seven, Quirk: Incubus, The Ribald Tales of Robin Hood, Shredded Moose, Sin Kids AU, Slave From Heaven (see below), Summertime Saga, Uchi no Maid ga Uzasugiru! (see below), The Vagina Ass of Lucifer Niggerbastard, Villainous Love, WATATEN!: an Angel Flew Down to Me, Way of the Samurai 4, With Pearl and Ruby Glowing, The World's Breast Tropes (see below), Yamatogawa (see below), FanficRecs.Yuru Yuri (see below)
• One angel and one devil: Caillou Finds a Dildo (see below)
• One angel: Bountiful Boobs, Cibus Esculentus Madoka Magica, Jailbait2014, Kichikuou Rance (see below), Characters.Made In Abyss (see below), Tendies Stories, Demonseed, Mogeko Castle, Uchi no Musume ni Te o Dasu na! (see below), Where the Dead Go to Die, Yandere I Love You So I Want To Kill You
• Two angels: Emmanuelle, F.A.T.A.L., Gokujou Drops, Interspecies Reviewers, The Last Sovereign (see below), The Phoenix of the Wasteland, Sensual Trigger, Squid Ops, Umibe no Onnanoko
• Three angels, needs a disposition: Baldr Sky, Literotica

Some comments on specific works:

• Body Bags was already discussed and cleared as "keep" if memory serves, but I am not certain.
• Brogulls was already cut. Not locked, though, so people can recreate it ... we'd need a 5P disposition to lock it.
• Caillou Finds a Dildo is just one page long. Not porn and I would hesitate at calling it paedo-pandering given that the sex toys are only mentioned - the kid is killed before using any of them.
• Cuties isn't being flagged just because of the controversial Netflix cover; apparently there are content issues too.
• Dawn Of The Silver Dragon was already cut. Not locked, though, so people can recreate it ... we'd need a 5P disposition to lock it.
• Enzai was already cut. Not locked, though, so people can recreate it ... we'd need a 5P disposition to lock it.
• I read through Everybody Loves Marinette and it's a) not even remotely interesting to me and b) pretty clearly porn with little or no plot to speak of. Perhaps also paedo-pandering since we are talking about school-aged people.
• Fish In The Trap was already cut. Not locked, though, so people can recreate it ... we'd need a 5P disposition to lock it
• Here Comes The Three Angels is flagged^{First flag} Possibility of implied lolicon pandering, according to reviewers of the first episode. Keep in mind that the original light novel is from the same author as Ro-Kyu-Bu!, which was cut according to the policies of the site. I hope this report is useful. twice^{Second flag} This is my second report regarding this work. After seeing the second episode, I wonder if this can be evaluated as paedo-pandering. I'll put what I saw: - In the first part of Episode 2, it was clarified the part of the innuendo from the previous episode by saying they want him to touch their instrument. - ...but then, it seems like an objectionable part came like 5:45 minutes into the episode, because it seemed like the main character was having some skeevy thoughts about her little sister (another loli), and that character even lampshaded it. I think that's going to be a turn-off and a clear red flag. - Also, there were innuendos here and there during the second half of the episode, and even... ugh... skeevy suits in the little girls... and panties in the tsundere girl... isn't that even more of a red flag already? I dunno. I only checked the chapter in a quick pace, maybe this should be given a quick consideration? Or should be wait until the next episode?, by the same troper, and has one devilhead for each flag.
• Intercourse with You is a trope and ~Ms Random 303 apparently wants it cleaned rather than cut.
• Jiburiru was already cut. Not locked, though, so people can recreate it ... we'd need a 5P disposition to lock it.
• Kichikuou Rance was already cut by someone who surmised that since the rest of the franchise was cut this one would be cut as well. It has, however, one angel, so a full review is needed IMO.
• Killing Stalking is now Killing Stalking
• Knight of Lolicon was extensively discussed in 2012 per thread.
• Characters.Made In Abyss was flagged^Rationale Movie is full of creepy pedo-pandering fanservice scenes, anime has uncomfortable pedo overtones, too, haven't read the manga myself and don't plan to, but apparently it has much more prepubescent nipples in it than the anime. by ~Pig_catapult; I am guessing they wanted to flag both film and manga.
• Makunouchi Deluxe was already cut. Not locked, though, so people can recreate it ... we'd need a 5P disposition to lock it.
• Masou Gakuen HXH is now Hybrid X Heart Magias Academy Ataraxia
• Moshi ASMR was already cut. Not locked, though, so people can recreate it ... we'd need a 5P disposition to lock it.
• Mr. Arashi's Amazing Freak Show was discussed somewhere, I think, but I don't know if that was before or after the most recent flag. [1], [2], [3], [4], [5] and [6] are links to past discussions.
• Saikin Imouto no Yousu ga Chotto Okashiinda ga is now Recently, My Sister Is Unusual
• The flag on Slave From Heaven doesn't really read like a 5P issue, but maybe ~My Own Heaven can specify.
• Spaceship Agga Ruter was already cut. Not locked, though, so people can recreate it ... we'd need a 5P disposition to lock it.
• Spy Of Darkness was already cut. Not locked, though, so people can recreate it ... we'd need a 5P disposition to lock it.
• I am pretty sure we already discussed and cleared The World's Breast Tropes, especially considering that the page is locked.
• Uchi no Maid ga Uzasugiru! is now UzaMaid: Our Maid Is Way Too Annoying!, just for the record.
• Uchi no Musume ni Te o Dasu na! is now Don't Meddle with My Daughter!
• Umibe no Onnanoko is now A Girl on the Shore
• Yamatogawa was already cut. Not locked, though, so people can recreate it ... we'd need a 5P disposition to lock it.
• The flag on FanficRecs.Yuru Yuri isn't about the page itself but about the two fics listed on it ... except that it's now three.

Edited by SeptimusHeap on Feb 25th 2021 at 12:27:15 PM

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman

As the one who reported With Pearl and Ruby Glowing just to be safe more than anything, I should reiterate that it's more of a psychological horror fic that uses rape and sexual assault as its premise, and it is very clearly anti-rape and anti-pedophilia, so there's no titillation. However, a lot of the fic is made up of these rape scenes, and many of them involve children.

Even if we keep the page, it might need a look over just to make sure the disturbing material isn't described in too graphic detail for this site. I remember discussing some examples from the page and other tropers remarked that they were written in a somewhat uncomfortable fashion.

(Sidenote, pretty sure a lot of the page was edited by its co-author, chelonianmobile, so there may also be some auto-erotic troping to clean up, though they have since stopped editing the YMMV pages except for sections they didn't write.)

Edited by mightymewtron on Feb 25th 2021 at 1:48:13 PM

I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.

I'm standing by that we should keep Made in Abyss, it's a popular anime that's constantly discussed in the community. If it had pedo-pandering then Crunchyroll or Amazon Prime wouldn't allow it and the BBFC would have banned it in the UK, but instead the show is rated 15+.

Plus I'm pretty sure the manga is also sold as a 16+ in the US and UK, which is the one that contains a bit more nudity and exposed female nipples of Riko.

Edited by ReynTime250 on Feb 25th 2021 at 7:34:09 PM

Agreed, that's a fairly mainstream title or at least it was a few years back.

With Pearl and Ruby Glowing is safe to trope provided we're careful about it, as someone familiar with the fic I can take a look at any concerning entries

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I agree that Made in Abyss should stay.

Zoe The Vampire I requested a lock for and requested it be added to the list

It'll be deeply amusing if Here Comes The Three Angels gets three devils.

Okay, let's this a productive comment. As for Cuties, while I'm less inclined to defend it than I was when the controversy was high, I still don't think it needs to be cut. From what little I know of the film, the children's dancing is not meant to be titillating, but uncomfortably over-the-top. It does seem to have pretty creepy sexualized dancing, but I don't think there's any nudity, and I don't think the sexualized scenes take up a lot of the movie? The one that sparks concern is at the tail end. Plus, as far as I know, it's still legally available on Netflix. The page has more of an issue with complaining than lewdness.

Edited by mightymewtron on Feb 25th 2021 at 7:31:57 AM

I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.

^^I've actioned these.

Remind me, how many of the 5P are currently active? I know Dr Psyche is and Harmonious Fusion aren't, but ~Adannor and ~Discar?

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman

I am around, but RL is extremely exhausting to deal with so time to look through fics is limited.

Previous discussion on Body Bags, for the record.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman

I'm still around, technically, but for some reason people expect me to actually work for a living? Pretty sure I'm being scammed somewhere, but the point is I'm low on time.

There was talk at some point about phasing out the P5 for a more general forum discussion, since we're not in panic mode any more and maybe don't need a few select judges.

Sorry to add to the pile, but I just reported Living As I Please As A Loli Demon King. The title concerned me, so I found a copy of the story on Wattpad. Only a few chapters in, and I'm admittedly skimming the work, but I think it might be pedo-pandering.

The premise is that a teenage boy gets transformed into the body of a "loli demon." If this is the Stripperific character on the book cover that's seen on the page image, that's extremely concerning. When first describing this "loli" body, the narrator makes a mention of her developing breasts. And a few chapters in, there's a scene where one of the other "loli demons" (they're Really 700 Years Old but you know how well that excuse flies by now) sits naked in the bath with the main character, who explicitly denies being a lolicon but it's implied he's aroused by his own naked body and the other loli.

EDIT: Okay, getting further, there's a sex scene with the two lolis in Chapter 4. Yeah, this needs to be nuked.

Edited by mightymewtron on Feb 26th 2021 at 1:22:13 PM

I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.

Out of the flagged works, the one that's intriguing me the most is Sad Satan. On the one hand, there are clean versions of this game. On the other hand, the most infamous version allegedly appears to have actual real life child porn in it, as well as real snuff content. On the other other hand, this seems to be a sort of ARG experience with a lot of content difficult to verify. The version alleged to have illegal content also apparently have very bad computer viruses attached, so anybody who wants to verify this thing should probably be careful.

Personally, if any version of this game has real-life child pornography in it, I don't even want to entertain the idea of a clean page, especially when it's apparently plotless and relies more on shock value and disorientation anyway. If nothing else, we should ban troping any version of the game with illegal shit.

Oh yeah, I'm taking the allegations with a grain of salt, but it doesn't seem to have a lot of tropable content beyond that creepypasta stuff anyway. Of course, I also refuse to delve any deeper into this conspiracy crap.

Edited by mightymewtron on Feb 26th 2021 at 5:18:13 AM

I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.

I feel like Sad Satan having actual child porn will forever be a mystery and the actual child porn may not ever exist or be found, making it more of a creepypasta.

That said, I understand not wanting to take the risk if that isn't the case.

I think we should keep Sad Satan, but scrub all mentions of the child porn/snuff versions.

back lol

That feels misleading, given that those rumors seem to be the only reason anybody knows or cares about the game. We should at least mention there are versions of the game rumored to have illegal content.

I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.

Looking at the Body Bags discourse. There's no sex in the comic. Main character has a lot of fanservice, is 14, but looks much older. Seems like an angelhead; lot's of anime and comics seem to have similar content to them.

Given the Tsugumomo manga's increasingly graphic sexualization of underaged and underaged-looking characters, I'm frankly surprised it only has one Devil Head. Should the page and its offshoots be purged or can it be salvaged to focus exclusively on the Bleached Underpants & Bowdlerised version of the anime?

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The first book in the Their Bright Ascendancy trilogy contains a rather explicit sex scene — the only explicit sex-scene in the series, though others are alluded to. The kicker is that it's between two sixteen-year-old girls, presented as a combination of Intimate Healing and Must Not Die a Virgin. However, the book is commecially available both in book stores and on Apple Books, so... yeah.

Edited by Arawn999 on Mar 1st 2021 at 7:47:22 AM