Is this an example?

Hi there. Would anyone consider the relationship between Dracula and Lisa in Castlevania (2017) a Beast and Beauty couple? Dracula is an inhuman, misanthropic vampire who doesn't like visitors and for what it's worth IS a beast of legend, while Lisa was a doctor and knowledge seeker who brought out the best in him from what I've heard and who also didn't take snuff from anyone.

I do see parallels between Castlevania's Lisa and Belle from Disney's Beauty And The Beast.

From the Characters page in The Penguins of Madagascar:

• Bi The Way: [Kowalski] dated a female dolphin once, but in "Pet Peeved" he shouts out "I love you" to Skipper when he is taken away.

Has it been confirmed in the series or by Word of God that Kowalski's indeed bi? If not, then this might instead fall into Ambiguously Bi.

edited 23rd Dec '17 4:07:50 AM by TroperNo9001

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I don't think Dracula is beastly enough. The trope is about the significant physical difference.

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Castlevania Dracula has always fit the older Bishōnen character type, with a really sexy hammy voice by Norio Wakamoto. At most you could label him Bastard Boyfriend but that’s about it.

They went so far with it with a retooling and reincarnated him as a hot teenager.

edited 23rd Dec '17 3:49:22 AM by Memers

Reposting from the previous page, so it doesn't get lost:

Is the following example from Freaky Friday (2003) being used correctly?:

• Unintentional Period Piece: All the gizmos Tess puts in her purse and has to juggle on a daily basis would definitely not have been included had the film been made in The New '10s. Even just entering the next decade, she would have had a single smartphone to replace all of it, which might have made the theme of her workaholism keeping her away from her family harder to convey.

Honestly the thing they always struck me on that one was the teenage daughter referencing the Cryptkeeper. Though that seems to date the writers more than anything.

Also reposting my In Spite of a Nail, since it was the page bottom:

• In the Red Panda Adventures episode "The World Next Door", a time traveler from an Alternate Timeline secures the Red Panda's aid by offering the full case file on an upcoming Villain Team-Up that, in his universe, killed the Red Panda's sidekick the Flying Squirrel. How useful the case file would be was up in the air, as the two universes have vast differences. A trusted friend in one is a supervillain in the other, the Red Pandas' costumes are different, and there are at least two confirmed Gender Flips between counterparts. Despite that, when the day comes and the Red Panda Revenge Squad assembles in "A Dish Best Served Cold", the villains' roster is essentially the same as the case file minus those differences and their plan, right down to the death trap used, goes almost identically to the alternate world's version. So much so that the villains are perplexed when the Red Panda notes the death trap they just created had been thwarting him for four years and rattles off details on its inner workings.

I'd been told previously this wasn't an example because the differences were too great for the trope to account for. But that never made sense to me since that seems exactly what the trope is meant to account for. There is more detail that can be added, but it's a bit lengthy as it is.

edited 23rd Dec '17 6:30:33 PM by sgamer82

Sounds like it. Everything is quite similar despite the timeline being altered, right? Besides some minor differences the trap is still created and the squad still assembles, even though the traveller should have changed events much more by talking about his universe.

Also, reposting from previous page: I'm writing a story about an author that makes a self insert. The story has No Fourth Wall and the characters and the author talk in the middle of chapters. They are fully aware that they are in a story.

For the penultimate chapter, the author decides to give his characters some more autonomy, to let them choose which paths to take...

One of them tries to spoil the story, and the author and him start fighting. This disables the author for a while. The self insert uses this time to take some of the author's power and make himself way too overpowered, going Off the Rails and killing an important character he was not supposed to kill.

The Author comes back right then, and changes the story so that the bad guys capture and torture him for hours. The self insert thinks it was part of the whole 'autonomy' thing, and doesn't blame the author.

In the final episode however, the self insert gets tired of the author controlling him and his life, and escapes the story, which ends there as there is no more main character.

Enter the second story. The self insert (Nicholas) is showing up in the author's (Brian) dreams, and they're good friends after Nicholas saved him in a tight spot. Then a war starts between the good dream characters and the bad ones. While Brian thinks it's the bad guys who started it, it was actually Nicholas who did, after he found out that Brian had sent him to the torture chamber on purpose. He is allied to the Monsters, the antagonists of the story he comes from, and this is kept secret from Brian until the finale. He has become an author, as powerful as Brian, by gradually making him be more and more attached to him, thus making him more important to him and giving him more power.

At one point, Nicholas' story is attacked by the bad guys. The story is destroyed and 90% of the characters die. This was all a part of Nicholas' plan to lure Brian into a trap... In fact, he led the attack himself, killing most of his fellow characters with no mercy.

But that's not all. He wants to control Brian in the real world too, and to that end he plans to kill him in his dreams. He almost succeeds, but Brian defeats him in battle. However, he does not die, as he wrote himself a safeguard in a place where both had used their Author Powers to battle that had later been destroyed.

Brian decides to 'retire' by getting away from the whole good guys/bad guys thing and moving to London. However, he does not know that Nicholas has become a supervillain bent on destroying him...

I wonder if this is a Deconstruction of the self insert?

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I have an example I want to add to add but I want to make sure its an example, that its the right length with correct english.

Its going to go on the Network to the Rescue on its anime section

"In the Late 70's, Executive Sandy Frank set out to sell his newest show, Battle Of The Planets , to TV Affiliates across the USA. What he thought would be an easy task proved much more difficult than expected. Quite a few affiliates declined and said no to Frank. With a deadline threatening to kill the show, Sandy Frank convinced WNEW to air the show, which was an extremely influential station. When the Metromedia Group caught wind of the deal they too jumped in and bought the show to air on their affiliates."

This is factually researched from a book and website about the show so it ALSO must be different enough to not be plagiarism. I changed the wording enough I hope.

http://www.battleoftheplanets.info/comingto2.html

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A bandit is robbing a stagecoach. To make the people in the stagecoach think he has a partner when he doesn't, he rigs up a dummy with a cowboy hat and bandana, and stages the dummy on the top of the hill with a rifle.

Brandishment Bluff? Stick 'em Up? Something different?

YMMV.Blend S:

• Hype Backlash: Many Yuri Fans, due to what Manga Time Kirara is well-known for, were looking forward to this series for what they guessed would be a Les Yay filled Improbably Female Cast...until it was very quickly revealed that the cast is gender-balanced, and apart from one episode (where Maika and Kaho intentionally play it up for the local yuri fan) the Les Yay is nonexistent, both main female characters have male love interests who are very important characters in their own right, and one of the Five-Girl Ensemble isn't actually a girl at all.

The problem is, does viewers' assumptions of a series really count as "hype"? In the alternative, can this be a Base Breaker?

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Sounds a lot more like Periphery Hatedom to me, as the show is clearly not meant for them, so it's only their problem if they made wrong assumptions before watching it (it's not like any medium or genre owns the standalone letter S, after all).

EDIT: Granted, if it IS Periphery Hatedom, then it should be removed from that page altogether and placed in the PH page itself, as it's Flame Bait.

edited 25th Dec '17 8:25:38 AM by MyFinalEdits

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I wouldnt say it is "Periphery" the manga ran in Manga Time Kirara Carat which includes A Channel, GA Geijutsuka Art Design Class, Hidamari Sketch, K On, Kill Me Baby, New Game etc all of which do not have a single named guy in the entirety of the work. Blend S not only features guys it is entirely built around intentionally invoking Otaku elements and character types and talking about them.

Its that one odd work that is incredibly out of place, but I wouldn't even call it hated or Hype Backlash if anything its popularity has spread beyond the manga's normal viewership.

I do know we have a trope for that one misplaced manga in an anthology mag but for the life of me I can not think of it. To Love RU running in Shonen Jump is another one of those.

edited 25th Dec '17 9:42:48 AM by Memers

If Memers is right, and as (he?) said (paraphrased)

"Contemptible Covers don't have to be subtropes of Covers Always Lie"

Then the removals of these from Contemptible Cover by Dere, with an edit reason of:

Are incorrect?

edited 25th Dec '17 8:58:08 PM by Malady

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There's been adding/removing of this trope, so I pulled it to Discussion Page. The only two tropers who have responded are the two who were arguing about it in the first place, so they obviously disagree. I'm therefore looking for more input to try and build a consensus.

This is from the RWBY show, and the original discussion is here.

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edited 26th Dec '17 4:24:50 AM by Wyldchyld

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@4709, That sounds like both. The Bandit's fake weapon, the prop,is something that cannot hurt anyone. While he himself is going to actually hold them up.

For Did You Just Flip Off Cthulhu?, does one have to be giving the finger to the one who is killing him? In the Dresden Files, Lash, the redeemed shadow of a Fallen Angel, dies from a brutal mental assault on Harry. However, while the assaulter is psychic vampire, this act of defiance and rebellion is actually against the shadow's creator, the original Lasciel. She is very pissed next time we see her at Harry for this betrayal.

I see no reason why Did You Just Flip Off Cthulhu? can't be by proxy.

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That makes sense. She dies not in service to her creator, an ancient evil force, but betraying her purpose. Thanks.

The following Elemental Powers example:

• Warframe has fourteen of them, each with it's own peculiar effect:
  • Three physical elements: Impact (knockback), Puncture (lowers damage dealt) and Slash (damage over time bypassing shields and armor).
  • Four basic elements: Heat (damage over time, causes a panic effect), Cold (reduces attack and movement speed), Electricity (chains between enemies and stuns) and Toxin (heavy damage over time).
  • Six combined elements: Blast (Heat+Cold, area of effect knockdown), Corrosive (Electricity+Toxin, lowers armor permanantly), Gas (Heat+Toxin, area of effect + dual-effect Toxin), Magnetic (Cold+Electricity, drains energy and lowers max shields), Radiation (Heat+Electricity, causes enemies to fight eachother) and Viral (Cold+Toxin, lowers max HP).
  • And last but not least, the two Element No. 5, Void (ignores all elemental resistances) and Finishing (ignores everything).

Are the "physical elements"(Impact, Puncture and Slash) actual examples?

edited 26th Dec '17 6:14:47 PM by MagBas

Eh I dont know if they are not an example, I just disagreed with it being a subtrope of Covers Always Lie. We can take it to a repair shop I think.

Well, Negima 25's original cover◊ has whichever girl it is... basically naked from the stomach up, with only bandages covering her nipples, so Contemptible Cover is a yes?

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And the given cover◊ of Confidential Confessions is "Scared Girl being held by older man with translucent phrases of 'rape', 'prostitution', 'suicide', 'drug abuse', and 'stalking'"...

Hmm... (Edit: If the Laconic is correct.) Laconic: "A misleadingly lurid cover illustration." ... Disregard any misleadingness, but is it Lurid?

Google: Lurid: "presented in vividly shocking or sensational terms, especially giving explicit details of crimes or sexual matters."

I'll say yes?

edited 26th Dec '17 8:30:13 PM by Malady

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The problem is that those covers are representative of the work, she is stripped like that in the manga. The trope states that Covers Always Lie and the cover is just bait and the actual contents of the work are far less extreme.

@4715: Thanks. Just to be clear, the bandit himself has a totally real gun that he holds up the stagecoach with, which is why I was reluctant to cite Stick 'em Up. It's just that there are like twelve dudes traveling with the stagecoach, so the fake dummy partners are necessary to keep the lawmen from shooting him down as he takes the money.

edited 26th Dec '17 8:34:11 PM by jamespolk

- Right, so it all depends on the relation, if any, between Covers Always Lie and Contemptible Cover.

I think we're both saying that there shouldn't be any parental relationship, but we're not sure?

... Oh, so that's what you meant about taking it to Repairs...

edited 26th Dec '17 8:46:13 PM by Malady

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In A Certain Magical Index and its spin-offs, Mikoto Misaka is capable of using her power over electricity and knowledge of the mechanics behind electromagnetism (specifically the Lorentz Force and Fleming's left-hand rule) to launch objects (usually arcade coins) at incredible velocities using only her hand, with the result (depending on the size of the projectile) ranging from flipping over a car to wide-scale destruction. This earned her the nickname "Railgun". More details here.

Is this an example of Kamehame Hadoken, or Wave-Motion Gun? Currently, the latter trope is listed on her profile, but AFAIK it's supposed to be only applicable to actual guns/cannons rather than simulating such weapons' functions with non-physical superpowers (i.e. it would be another matter if Mikoto assembled a makeshift physical railgun with her powers from available materials and used that to launch projectiles).

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Does it count as an example of Character Title, Alliterative Title, Name and Name, Excited Show Title, The Noun and the Noun, etc, if it's only the name of an individual episode, chapter etc and not the whole work?

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