- Cap is only six-feet tall, has green hair, and a man-shaped body. Perhaps Cap & Gaia are the Id & Ego of Eywa?
- He's an immature Na'vi.
- Oh so Gaia gets killed at some point.
- This may be the first point in history where five kids from around the globe could agree on a consistent theme for "Captain Planet". A hundred years ago, he may have looked like an unholy amalgamation of Musashi, Babalu Aye, Queatzlcoatl, Nikitich, and Davy Crockett.
- This would have been awesome if it could have been made to work.
- This is implied by the show. You're looking at a bunch of teenagers surrounded by '80s pop culture; what do you expect of them? Captain Planet's appearance is based on an amalgamation of the Planeteers themselves.
Provided he's read this article.
- But then Hoggish Greedly will bring out a huge Landblaser, coat that wimp Captain Planet with crude oil and smog, and proceed to become The Duke of Pork, conquering the entire world with his machine.
- Unless Cap'n killed him with oxygen intoxication (AKA dry drowning) while he was sleeping. You know he'd kill people in their sleep. Before you ask, it's possible.
- But would he kill pigs in their sleep?
- Unless Cap'n killed him with oxygen intoxication (AKA dry drowning) while he was sleeping. You know he'd kill people in their sleep. Before you ask, it's possible.
- Captain Planet as a Well-Intentioned Extremist and the eco-villains as anti-heroes who oppose him? It sounds like an interesting show.
- It would look something like this.
- Sometimes, he acts more like Epimetheus...
- Hey, this could make sense when combined with a WMG below...
- Umm, no. Gaia created humanity and everything else; humanity made the villains.
- And why did Gaia create humanity in such a way that humanity could create eco-villains? Most environmentalists will tell you that Humans Are Bastards far beyond any other species; how could Gaia have failed to predict this?
- Because mankind discovered original sin. In Greek Mythology, whence Gaia comes, Prometheus gave fire to man and hence dominion and power over the rest of the world; hence, Prometheus introduced man to original sin. He saw the error of his ways and repented. Previously, his punishment was to be chained to a rock and have his liver devoured by an eagle every day. Now he atones for his deed by being Captain Planet.
- Wait, fire is original sin? Okay, that makes some sense ecologically, but... it has unfortunate implications for whoever has the Fire ring. Maybe that's why Wheeler got picked for that one.
- This may be the reason why gingers get so much flak.
- Robert Zubrin is aware of this. If this theory is true, that makes him good. If the theory below is true, that may make him an evil Planeteer.
- Moonrider (shoots lasers)- Fire ring.
- Big Bear (changes density of things) - Water ring (works by changing the density of water).
- Vyking (Magnetism) - Earth ring (Controls iron in the rocks).
- Beautiful Dreamer (Telekinesis) - Wind ring (moves the air via telekinesis).
- Serifan/Serafin - Heart ring (Self Explanatory).
- Infinity Man - Captain Planet (New Powers as the Plot Demands).
- Mother Box - Gaia.
The Forever People either got turned into rings or transplanted their powers into rings. Being hippies, they'd care for the environment.
- You mean Ma-ti is Kira? He can control more than minds with his power?
- Gaia: "So, you come and summon Capitain Planet. Electricity and Metal, as complementary elements, could give a power boost when necessary, to turn him stronger to his weaknesses, like pollution, or spilled oil."Electricity kid: "So, Gaia, I and Metalhead here have a small question to ask..."Gaia: "Feel free to do so."Metal kid: "So, Captain Planet is weak to oil..."Electricity kid: "But doesn't oil come from nature, too?"
The day after, the two were missing from the team. They and their powers rings were never heard of again. The remaining Planeteers kept their mouths shut. Ma-ti, the only one who asked what happened, had his power ring demoted in power.
That's it; if we take in consideration the natural disasters, Gaia surely is quite reactive about what's asked of her. She prefers to risk her creations than to answer Fridge Logic in a plausible way.
- That, but wood instead of electricity. And the reason they're not on the team anymore? Their rings got destroyed and turned them into a tree and the Geo-Cruiser respectively (that's why they don't share the technology- they can't). Sort of a Sealed Evil in a Can but with elemental powers instead.
- Or Sealed Good in a Can (given they would have had a point).
Why is the Heart ring limited? Because raw electricity is one of the most powerful forces there is. If you can control electricity, you can ultimately control nuclear power; and in this universe, nuclear power corrupts. Gaia's refusal to control nuclear power directly led to the Heart ring being what it is - relatively limited, but relatively pure and thus, in its own way, more dangerous.
It is possible that the Fire ring once had a Power Limiter because fire is a manifestation of original sin. If that ring had fallen in the hands of someone like Ma-Ti, it would've just disintegrated or decomposed things. But it went to Wheeler, and so it was unlocked again because you simply can't give purified entropy to someone who's starting out that damaged.
They were meant to be a secondary team ("The Legion of Substitute Planeteers"?); they were being trained to help the main group, and their necklaces would have been more powerful if Gaia hadn't put so much energy into the rings. Because Gaia was busy helping the main Planeteer team, the KFN were trained in the pocket dimension of Teratopia by her deputies, the Wolf and Snake elders.
This implies that Gaia may be an Animal Wrongs Goddess, but only for plants and dirt (animals are fair game as long as they aren't harmed so much that the ecosystem is disrupted).
It explains Wheeler's Ark. Gaia knew it was the wrong thing to do but didn't care. As long as the ecosystem survived, her army of animal thralls was more important than anything else!
- Also, it could be that there's a catastrophic event that leaves the world just about in ruins, modern technology being mostly lost, and the Planeteers won't need the rings to use their powers, forming the basis of elemental bending.
Just think! Heart grants the ability to influence emotions, read minds, find anyone, communicate telepathically, and who knows what else! It's the power over other living creatures! And you can't summon Captain Planet without it.
Her solution was to find someone who had the correct mind-set (kindness, love of nature, etc.) and a strong will, but who lacked the imagination to harness — or even recognize — the full potential of the ring. This gave the Planeteers all the powers they would need as well as the ability to summon Captain Planet, but ensured that everyone would stay on the correct path.
- Were we not supposed to assume Wheeler was the main character in the first place?
- Kwame is the leader of the group, so it wouldn't be a mistake to think he's the main character.
- It's not who's running things — it's a matter of identification. Wheeler is the only one to come from the USA. The cartoon was written by Americans and first shown in the USA. It's easier to write someone from your own culture than from a foreign one. Also, Wheeler was the most clearly flawed of the heroes; that makes it much easier to write him "realistically." It would take drastic measures to have a character in this position not seem like the main character.
- I think it would be more accurate to say that while Kwame is team leader, Wheeler is the Audience Surrogate. Basically where meant to see the story through Wheeler's eye's, more or less.
- Then why didn't they do anything when Duke Nukem and Leadsuit came to Antarctica to make the hole in the ozone layer larger? He had a whole factory set up there!
After he left that job, he accidentally struck oil. His greedy ambitions, his morbid obesity, and his name-change started then. He had tagged along Rigger and constructed a mobile offshore oil rig to get more cash.
The evidence is clear from the first episode of the show, "A Hero For Earth". Hoggish Greedly fires toxic waste/crude oil at Captain Planet to get him out of the cockpit of the Landblaster. But he shoots it from a gasoline pump that's attached to a backpack-like container on his back. At the time, he was wearing a dull-colored outfit with loads of pockets, a pair of tall black leather boots, and he had on a belt with several belt cases on it. Clearly, when he left, he kept both the outfit and the equipment.
Face it, the war between humans and rats has gone on for thousands of years.
It may be in the nature of the Ring. It is the Fire Ring, and in Greek Mythology—from which Gaia comes—fire is the original sin. There may be an upper limit on how pure someone using the Fire Ring can be and still get it to work. This combined with the lower limit for being a good guy at all and the implied age limit for all ringbearers would limit Gaia's choices. Finding someone who would not be tempted to corrupt the holder of the Heart Ring would narrow it down still further.
Still, exactly one person among billions...
Sailor Moon's friends have elemental powers; her power is, basically, "Heart". Had Wheeler got the power of Heart, he would've become Sailor Moon!
Wheeler- Verminous Skumm; both are city dwellers.
Ma-Ti- Looten Plunder; Ma-Ti has the Power of Heart, while Looten Plunder has no heart
Kwame- Sly Sludge; Kwame takes the long term view with ecology while Sly Sludge is short sighted
Gi- Dr Blight; Gi wants to be a good scientist, and Dr Blight is an evil scientist.
The Eco Villians especially want to stop the Planeteers from spreading their solar powered technology.
Want to give that poor third world country solar roofs so they can all have electricity? Sorry, guys, Looten Plunder is going to turn Lake Michigan into a cesspool!
An Australian power of wood, and a girl from Atlantis with the power of Metal
The Eco-villains are stereotypes because they're Gaia's choice targets. She hopes that continued exposure to them will eventually convince the Planeteers to take increasingly extreme measures to stop them, including genocide (it'll remove whatever groups the villains earn a profit from). Eventually, other, legit buisnesses will become targets in the Planeteers' pro-environment rampage.
They are still villains. After all, they are (un)terraforming an inhabited planet in ways not compatible with the native life, and usually doing so to greater extremes than most of the natives.
- They're from a different planet. Their world is, by our standards, heavily polluted. To them, our toxins are vital. Their planet is becoming less habitable for them, so they are making a new home. They probably came from Venus, which is a highly toxic planet. That, or they are survivors of the planet Mars.
Fortunately, she was able to push the responsibility onto Poseidon.
They're both portrayed by Whoopi Goldberg. We know that Guinan was on Earth during the late 19th century. It isn't a huge stretch of the imagination that she might have either stayed through the 20th century, or returned a century later.
Wheeler's role isn't supposed to be to hold the Idiot Ball, but to convert the unfeasible concepts of his fellow planeteers into solutions that work for cities and industries. But Wheeler is flawed in other ways, and the other kids tend to reject the good ideas with the bad, often with extreme prejudice. They are constantly neglecting a crucial part of their mission.
Ostracizing Wheeler = no compromise = no long-term solutions.
This is why the planeteers never seem to do anything that would truly help reduce waste and pollution in the world. The other four kids are out-of-touch with larger, more concentrated groups of humanity, since they all seem to come from rural or sheltered environments. Thus, they don't know what large cities need... And no, you can't just get rid of the large cities. Even if population control was put into effect immediately, there's still too much pre-existing population...
The other kids see pollution as the sole province of Jerkasses who do it for the Evulz. So far, most of the villains do pollute for that reason, but one wonders what would happen if everyone decided to take on the 'verse's equivalent of General Electric. Anyhow, because they are ignorant of the needs of cities, they never think of how to help. They rarely bother to talk to Wheeler about it because they class him as an 'ignorant human'.
Thus, most individual instances of fire, and most long-lasting instances of fire, in the age of humans have been made by humans to meed human needs and desires. Since humans are needed to make Captain Planet, their peculiar needs in the ecosystem must at least be considered.
This is why it's so hard to find bearers for the Fire Ring. Its bearer is to represent needs that even Gaia herself would rather not consider too closely.
The Skaven are a race of rat-like, semi-humanoid beings who thrive on filth and decay while plotting the downfall of every other race in existance. They are untrustworthy, they are disgusting, and they tend to fail a lot because of their inborn cowardace. Skumm simply fell through a Warp rift and wound up on Holy Terra about thirty-eight thousand years before the "Current," series of events in 40K.
- Considering all the reboot TV series that have been showing up, it's not too unlikely.
- It would be really cool to see a reboot as dark as Scooby Doo Reboot in Mystery Incorporated.
- Adding on to this: the main antagonist would be an Expy of the Shinra Corporation. In addition, the Planeteers are villified by the government as a Neo-Luddite terrorist group standing in the way of "progress", while covering up their own atrocities against non-whites. The Planeteer lineup would also be different:
- Tim from America, holder of the Fire Ring and an advocate of using his powers to cleanse the Earth of those who would bring harm to Gaia
- Hans from Germany, holder of the Wind Ring, who was rendered an orphan after his family was executed for developing wind power and threatening the monopoly held by fossil fuels
- Wallace from Australia, holder of the Earth Ring, and a natural geologist seeking to make a clean-burning coal substitute
- Suki from Japan, holder of the Water Ring, who is Tim's love interest and often agrees with him on the use of violence
- Asha from Kenya, holder of the Heart Ring, an animal conservationist from Nairobi who protects the animals of the Earth by using her powers to turn her enemies against each other
- Juan from Argentina, holder of the Lightning Ring, who is the mediator of the team's conflicts
- Kwame is the only surviving member of the original Planeteers, the rest having been captured and executed; he serves as the team's advisor
- When Captain Planet does appear, he doesn't spout horrible puns every few seconds, but is very serious without a hint of humor, and above all else, he can die, but is much like Captain Scarlet, in that he cannot stay dead permanently
Hoggish Greedly— Once an ordinary Corrupt Hick with a severe case of Small Name, Big Ego and an equally severe ignorance of the environment, he was approached by a man who offered him a huge sales contract. He signed off on it immediately, only for the man to turn out to be Zarm in disguise. He then became the first of the Eco-Villains. As the price for signing the contract, his body was cursed into a grotesque pig-like form.
Dr. Blight—Once an esteemed scientist, he career was derailed by scandals regarding her unethical experiments. This pleased Zarm, who appeared to her as university representative offering her a grant. She signed it, sealing her contract with Zarm, but in exchange she was given a horrific scar on her face that could never be healed and was cursed to drive her insane.
Duke Nukem—Gaia has no problems with nuclear power per se, but its great potential for abuse made it attractive to Zarm. Duke Nukem was an unethical nuclear engineer who resorted to underhanded means to promote his unsafe power plant designs over his rivals' safer ones. Zarm appeared to him as a town spokesman bearing a construction contract, but when he signed it he was transformed into a radioactive monster.
Verminous Skumm— Once a nameless, homeless heroin addict on the streets of a major city, Zarm chose him because he represented the worst of humanity in terms of having a "polluted" mind. He approached him in a vision granting promises of power, and when he signed the contract he turned into a hideous rat/human hybrid, causing him to seek revenge on the human race who had been so cruel to him as a human.
Looten Plunder—Plunder didn't need Zarm to become a wealthy, amoral Corrupt Corporate Executive. He did that on his own. What Zarm did was grant him the ability to openly flaunt laws and treaties with his company's activities. While his physical appearance did not change after signing Zarm's contract, he was given such an overriding obsession with furthering his personal glory that he would never again be content to use his wealth generously.
Sly Sludge— A Brilliant, but Lazy sanitation worker who preferred to just throw everything into landfills than bother with recycling, Sludge was only reluctantly approached by Zarm— even Gaia knew his heart was in the right place. But after signing the contract, he became a filthy, foul-smelling Pigpen of a man with a love of trash. Uniquely, however, Sly Sludge was the only one of the Eco-Villains to ever successfully escape his contract, which he did when he performed his HeelFace Turn.