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openStillborn Franchise misuse?
- Terminator had the dubious designation of having three sequels that failed to set up trilogies. Terminator Salvation (the production company went under) and Terminator Genisys (the horrible domestic performance made Paramount pull the plug on the already scheduled follow-ups - which the movie expected, given it doesn't explain many things and ends on a Sequel Hook). Later, James Cameron ended up returning to the franchise by producing and contributing to the story for a sixth film, Terminator: Dark Fate, that actually continues Terminator 2: Judgment Day and ignores the previously described attempts. Yet once again, that film bombed even harder than either Salvation or Genisys despite receiving better reviews, leading to the studio putting on hold any future films.
I intend to cut this as Stillborn Franchise is about the first installment killing it off before it can becomes a franchise and these are the 4th-6th installments of a previously successful franchise. (This might apply if these were spin-off franchises but these were, to my understanding, the mainline series.) Any objections?
This sounds like an attempt to sneak in Franchise Killer, which was decided not to apply [here (now requires 5 years or official confirmation, and what confirmation we're getting seems knee-jerk and fails to prove there were any future work planned afterward but now derailed) as they tried rebooting it too quickly to consider it dead.
I asked about it in Is this an example? but have yet to get an answer.
openTropes being listed alongside Useful Notes links in Useful Notes / Europe
UsefulNotes.Europe is a mess. Under "Useful Notes and other articles related to Europeans and European culture", actual tropes are being listed among useful notes links. Most of them have been added by a troper named CookingCat as shown here. Now from my understanding, anything Real Life can't be troped, period.
Edited by DivineFlame100openWork description gives full plot
Been doing more "Random Media"-style cleanup tonight, and found ComicBook.Democracy. The description pretty much gives away the entire plot, which cannot be kosher, right?
openHoYay examples on QueerMedia
Doesn't it seem a bit redundant? Just curious
Edited by ravioliluigiopenHistorical figure in completely non-historical setting
I have written the useful notes Spanish American Wars of Independence, and listing some works set in the period. A web page says that the videogame Wolf Team, a First-Person Shooter, features José de San MartÃn and Simón BolÃvar (two generals from this war) as playable characters. Is that enough to list the game there, or should I ignore it?
openHow many tropes?
There are certainly far too many tropes for me to devote one day out of the year to analyzing each one, so how many are there?
openIs this really an example?
I was looking through Yuri Fan with an eye toward aces and misuse that I'll clean up when I'm on my desktop, and found this example under can fiction:
- Notable above all other examples is the shipping community surrounding Touhou. The game series has well over a hundred characters and a grand total of three male characters (a turtle, a cloud, and a Non-Action Guy) with screen/page time, so there's a lot of yuri shipping possibilities. It's gotten to the point where Touhou has begun to relocate from Comiket to a separate, Touhou-only convention, Reitaisai, which is currently the largest single genre doujin convention in the world.
- All of this despite, or maybe even because of, the fact that No Hugging, No Kissing is in effect in canon. This, combined with some easily read-into Ho Yay subtext, gives the imagination of the yuri fans plenty of material to play around with and no contradictions with canon, making Shipping Wars surprisingly uncommon within the community.
- When fan artists turn chracters into this trope as well, you know the fandom has reached critical recursion, like with this example.
I'm tempted to cut because it doesn't describe any in-universe characters as yuri fans but would rather get a few second opinions first (and I'm ignoring the violation of example indentation rules until I know if it's misuse first)
openBug? Troll?
What on earth happened to https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/crowner.php/BestEpisode/FireEmblem?
openVideo Examples
Hey there, I thought of some ideas for good video examples, but I might need help with trying to upload just that specific scene and not the whole work.
Work: My Little Pony: The Movie (2017) Example of: Wham Line
Work: The Phantom Menace Example of: Impaled with Extreme Prejudice
Work: "Lesson Zero" Example of: Nightmare Face
Work: "Heroes and Monsters" Example of: An Arm and a Leg
Work: Return of the Jedi Example of: Shock and Awe
Work: Spaceballs Example of: Luke, I Am Your Father
Work: Attack of the Clones Example of: Big Badass Battle Sequence
Think anyone can either help me or upload these video examples themselves?
openLight Novels
The Light Novel article seems a bit out of date, saying that most light novels don't see an English release, but "that may change" due to Haruhi Suzumiya selling better than expected. That may have been true in the late 2000s and early 2010s, these days I see plenty of L Ns translated to English. However, I don't really feel like I have enough info about the state of L Ns being sold in the west to change it, so could someone more knowledgeable about this topic take a look at the article?
Edited by HarpieSirenopenRemove from "And There was Much Rejoicing"?
Found this on the music section of the entry list for "And there was Much Rejoicing":
'When Thatcher actually did die, a social media campaign caused "Ding Dong, The Witch Is Dead" to shoot up to #2 on the UK charts."
Remove? It is an out-of-universe example, which I think do not fit the music list. Plus given the lack of a Real-life Section, I think they are not allowed.
opencustom title collision
What to do when two works have the same title, but require different custom titles?
- Fanfic.Curses and VideoGame.Curses: the former has an exclamation mark, the latter doesn't.
- Creator.FX and Music.Fx: the first should be FX, the second should be f(x)
openShocking Moments namespace
Why is the Shocking Moments namespace ShockingMoments/, instead of Shocking/ like the other Moments namespaces?
open Name of Harem Cartoon/Anime That Took Place in Seattle or Similar Locale? Anime
This is driving me crazy! I can vaguely remember watching a cartoon or anime on TV (can't remember network) where I think this guy has amnesia (possibly) and is rescued/taken in by a group of women. I think the guy is a badass/martial artist, but not sure.
Also I remember the setting to be a city, maybe Seattle, or a fictional city with similar features. I remember rain and coffee.
One specific line I remember is a mom or older woman somehow related to the women says, upon meeting the guy, "Wow, what a chunk!" One of the younger women corrects her and says "I think you mean "hunk"". The mom is Asian.
Timeframe 2000-2005ish. Good luck.
openNo Title
Can someone please help me cleanup the pages for The XCOM Anthology Set and it's character page? There's so many tropes need to be linked properly.
Edited by Ninamarie124openAnalysis / SitcomArchNemesis misuse?
From Sitcom Arch-Nemesis' description:
The totality of the Analysis.Sitcom Arch Nemesis page:
Is that really the right use of an Analysis page? Seems to me none of those are really exceptions to the trope, and the first two are already mentioned on the main page.
Edited by Chabal2openShoehorn / Complaining?
YMMV.My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic S 9 E 25 The Ending Of The End Part 2
- Why Would Anyone Take Him Back?: A platonic one, in this case. Despite Rainbow Dash calling it a pretty epic make-up, any fans feel that Discord roasting Tirek and making him accidentally release Starlight doesn't make up for him trying to boost Twilight's confidence by bringing together the Mane Six's worst villains and putting Equestria in danger.
This seems like an attempt to add Unintentionally Unsympathetic which was decided against here.
Should it art least explain why they find it insufficient? Why wouldn't they forgive him given they're established as a very forgiven group, it sounds like fans are projecting they're animosity as opposed to this trope.
Are platonic examples even allowed for this trope?
I asked here but have yet to get an answer.
Edited by Ferot_DreadnaughtopenTheGreenJ
Someone needs to do something about The Green J.
Their edit on Mascot Racer is...just fucking weird, man. Like, why? Why even? Big Boo's Haunt is just as confusing to me. If someone knows what they're doing here, please tell me.
But even worse is their current TLP record and their inability to comprehend the complaints on their Barefoot Unicylcing draft.
Whatever it is they're trying to do here, they do not understand the site or how tropes work.
Edited by WarJay77
It seems snivyTsutarja and I may have a slow simmering edit war on a Red Link at Manga.Cells At Work.
The chronology reads like this:
I understand the Red Link policy is not the best known on this wiki, so it's hard to see it's out of bad faith, or even an intention of Edit War, but it looks like we may have technically been edit warring.
I already write a PM to them regarding this, and before any updates I will not edit that page until given clearance to.
Edited by SamCurt