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YMMV / Diamond in the Rough (Touhou)

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  • Genius Bonus:
    • The characters rarely say "no," but rather opt for "not really." This is a Japanese language convention, as it is impolite to directly say no.
    • Mokou mentions her father was humiliated and killed trying to attain one of Kaguya's impossible requests. In the original Tale of the Bamboo Cutter, only one of the princes was killed trying to get the cowrie born from swallows.
    • When Brolli is moved via Sakuya's time-stop effect, he suffers from formication, one of the side-effects of mild decompression sickness.
    • Six hundred million cubic kilometers, the amount of space Brolli's pockets will contain affect learning the magic of the Codex Puteus, is how large the Pacific Ocean is.
    • All of the tactics Lepus uses are legitimate pick-up artistry tactics, from negging to embedded language to focusing more on figuring out the girl than revealing Brolli's traits to make him seem more "mysterious." In addition, his advice about putting a pillow under the waist is to increase the "angle of attack".
  • Harsher in Hindsight / Hilarious in Hindsight: Many of the comments from the early episodes, and many more by the time the series wraps up...
    • The backstory of Hopeless Masquerade has the human village hopeless after a series of disastrous incidents, looking to the religious leaders for protection and the future fate of Gensokyo (though it turns out to really be Hata no Kokoro stealing hope from the village after losing her Mask of Hope). DitR takes place a little while after Ten Desires, and Spaztique has since accepted that Diamond In The Rough takes places directly before Hopeless Masquerade. Whether or not this makes the game into a warm and fuzzy experience knowing Gensokyo is returning back to normal or an uncomfortable tearjerker knowing what they all just went through is up to the player.
    • However, after numerous complaints from people taking the events too seriously, Spaztique DID eventually come out and say that ''Diamond in the Rough'' is not, and will NEVER be canon.
    • There is now a canon Touhou game titled Urban Legend in Limbo that involves a self-centered high school student coming to Gensokyo and nearly destroying it.
    • Hell, even Len'en (a Shoot 'em Up game based on Touhou) portraits a fantasy world and some outsider humans coming to Mugenri (the equivalent of Gensokyo), where they gain powers and resolve incidents. However, later games (Brilliant Pagoda or Haze Castle in particular) show that some of these outsiders are becoming corrupt and the residents are planning to kick them out. Coincidence.
    • And now in the territory of official works, in Forbidden Scrollery, more specifically, chapters 46-50, it has brought into the thing some plot points used in Spaztique's webcomic, like the Youkai's importance to Gensokyo's ecosystem, and Kosuzu, being influenced by a Youkai by using the titular scroll and using that power intending to bring balance to Gensokyo.
  • Hype Backlash: It may have been the best thing Walfas had to offer in the early 2010's, and a LOT of the community hyped it up as so- Even TV Tropes is guilty of it! However, fast foward to 2020, most people would tell you it's not as good as others said it was.
  • Iron Woobie: Brolli during the incident, at least before crossing the Despair Event Horizon when the horror just doesn't stop.
  • It Was His Sled: Even before the completion of the series. GENSOKYO LOCAL BEEF IS PEOPLE! Specifically all the other gappies. And this is used to point out the Fridge Horror what happens when people try to use Gensokyo as a personal playground.
  • Misaimed Fandom:
    • Fans who haven't seen the full movie wish they were in Brolli's place. While many who have seen the full movie and its Downer Ending changed their minds, there are also fans who have seen Diamond In The Rough in its entirety and missed the point completely...
    • In a few fics, writers tried to find workarounds solely based on Diamond In The Rough's plot instead of story mechanics. For example, instead of Yukari gapping in the main character, it's another character, using the excuse, "Yukari didn't gap him in, so he's not a Gappy Stu!" These characters then proceed to woo all of the women in Gensokyo and become the big hero with no meaningful conflict to stop them.
    • Some fans who did understand Diamond In The Rough have adamantly attacked any sort of outsider main character as being a Marty Stu, even though Spaztique has said multiple times that a Gappy is not necessarily a Stu, and a Stu doesn't have to be a Gappy.
  • Most people have believed that this story is how Spaz views Gensokyo. As he detailed on the abrdiged version of Wrath of the Amanojaku, this is NOT true at all.
  • Moment of Awesome: Has its own page.
  • Moral Event Horizon:
  • Narm: It mostly suffers under this, mainly due to being made with a rather limited Virtual Paper Doll engine.
    • Most of the expressions during moments that are meant to be serious look comedic. Take Episode 10 for example, when Brolli kills Kaguya. She looks more surprised than gasping for life. Episode 13 also has the Brolli and the SDM residents look so shocked that it just looks borderline hilarious.
    • Yukari's evil grin whenever she appears to gap somebody away. It's taking up her whole face!
    • Sometimes, when the characters cry, they use the sweatdrop object. It's just plain [Special Effects Failure]] due to how silly it looks.
    • Brolli's scream in Episode 19. While it's meant to be Tear Jerker, it sounds like the poor guy stubbed his toe.
    • The reveal of the source local Gensokyo beef is rather tryhard, too. Yukari's a youkai, what were you expecting? That she's a vegitarian?
    • The narrative relies on Take That, Audience! too much, which can make most of the story sound kind of pretentious.
  • Nausea Fuel: The real reason why Yukari gaps children into Gensokyo... local Gensokyo Beef, anyone?
  • Nightmare Fuel: Using canon elements as its primary source. Has its own page.
  • Older Than They Think: This is in fact not the first work to deconstruct the Gappy Stu archetype like this. There is a less well known part of Touhou canon called Dolls in Pseudo Paradise that not only deconstructed it but also introduced the concept in the first place.


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