Opened. I think we can disambiguate this like what was done with Mismatched Eyes.
You Gotta Have Blue Hair is another trope that could go on a disambiguation page, since some of those examples involve unusual hair colors.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Feb 6th 2022 at 10:53:54 AM
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.I've always thought we could have a trope for "hair dye indicates alternative personality" (eg. Scott Pilgrim vs. The World, the cool love interest Ramona regularly dyes her hair, and Scott's more "regular" first girlfriend Knives gets a hair streak to compensate), but that would have to start from scratch.
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Edited by Synchronicity on Feb 6th 2022 at 11:21:46 AM
Disambiguate.
I wonder if something that could be done is to expand Skunk Stripe to include other hair colors because a decent amount of example appear to be "character has dyed strip of hair" and that wouldn't necessarily fit into Delinquent Hair.
ETA: We also have Dye Hard for people/characters that dye their hair on a regular basis.
Edited by Hello83433 on Feb 6th 2022 at 11:19:33 AM
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You Gotta Have Blue Hair is also in the TRS queue for mostly being used as "character has colored hair" so that's in line for a fix itself.
"Grandmaster Combat, son!"I think Multicolored Hair's subtrope, Skunk Stripe, might also need a trip to the TRS since it can mean multiple things and I don’t think it should just be "a character has a dyed streak in their hair" but that’s for another day.
Macron's notesDelinquent Hair is a common usage. However, other types of rebel teenagers (like goths or emos), as well as rockers also feature this heavily. Can we create a supertrope to Delinquent Hair for characters with multicolored hair?
Edited by Dghcrh on Feb 6th 2022 at 12:56:16 PM
I'm mainly a fan of underrated media.I also find it odd that the Norse goddess Hel isn't mentioned in Multicolored Hair. According to the Eddas (the main sources of what we know about Norse mythology), her scalp hair on one half is black and the other half being white.
Kirby is awesome.it might be possible to create a trope combined with You Gotta Have Blue Hair for “unnatural hair color = personality”
But, like said above YGHBH is up for TRS itself and we’ll get to that one later.
CSP Cleanup Thread | All that I ask for ... is diamonds and dance floorsMaybe we could introduce an "unconventionally colored hair" trope? For characters whose unusual hair color (natural or dyed) is a sign of them marching to the beat of their own drum?
Is that too close to Delinquent Hair?
Disambig Needed: Help with those issues! tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13324299140A37493800&page=24#comment-576There's a certain stereotype to quirky, artistic, alternative free spirits dyeing their hair. The Scott Pilgrim character I brought up above is not a delinquent, but cool alternative girl. (At least in the internet circles I run in, it became a joke for girls with dyed hair to be mistaken as Manic Pixie Dream Girl after Ramona Flowers and Clementine.)
Delinquent Hair is also broader hairstyle-wise and about people who regularly get in trouble, so it'd be a sister trope.
But like I said, it would have to go through TLP mostly-independent of this.
Edited by Synchronicity on Feb 7th 2022 at 12:05:50 PM
We also have Rose-Haired Sweetie and Shy Blue-Haired Girl, so I could see a supertrope of sorts covering the personality aspect.
CSP Cleanup Thread | All that I ask for ... is diamonds and dance floorsI do think a trope for the alternative / rebellious / unconventional color style would make a good supertrope for Delinquent Hair. I have an example or two of my own where the character has colored streaks, but is just sort of a goth rebel type and hasn't done anything worse than pull a few pranks.
Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure PurenessLmao, it might also finally be a home for those “Asian hair streak” examples.
Actually sponsoring that sounds fun, I might take it to TLP. But again, that effort would have little to no bearing on the fate of Multicolored Hair.
Yeah, it'd mostly just be a place to throw wicks.
Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure Purenessand lmao, I know a few wicks to toss in that pile.
CSP Cleanup Thread | All that I ask for ... is diamonds and dance floorsWhat about someone's hair color being used to cast doubt on whether they're human or mark them as not a normal human?
That’s covered by Mark of the Supernatural. I don’t think we need a hair specific variant of that.
Edited by MacronNotes on Feb 7th 2022 at 4:03:37 AM
Macron's notesI would argue it would go on Ambiguously Human if it's Lampshaded or Discussed.
CSP Cleanup Thread | All that I ask for ... is diamonds and dance floorsNatural non standard and impossible hair colors are a trope though, a visual one but still a trope. Blue, green, neon purple, multi colored whatever. And there are many reasons to why they might be that color.
But if someone dyes it that is an entirely different trope. One that does not exist I do not think.
Edited by Memers on Feb 7th 2022 at 2:28:49 AM
Well, it’s not that I don’t think it’s a trope to have an impossible hair color naturally. It’s just not usual to have example lists filled with nothing but "Alice has X color hair" and unnatural hair colors aren’t remarkable in works where a lot of characters have them.
Purple Eyes on its own wasn’t chairs but we had enough existing tropes to cover all of the possible meanings.
Edited by MacronNotes on Feb 7th 2022 at 6:02:01 AM
Macron's notesThere's two tropes there, I think. One would be a setting trope, like "World Of Rainbow Hair", rather than an individual character trope. The other would be about giving characters unusual hair colors to make them stand out, and would be an individual character trope.
Dye Hard covers "dyed hair".
Might be worth mentioning that a wick check for You Gotta Have Blue Hair exists here.
Edited by WarJay77 on Feb 7th 2022 at 6:22:49 AM
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Multicolored Hair frequently attracts Zero Context Examples and may be redundant with other tropes. What should be done with it?
Multicolored Hair is just…multi-colored hair and I don’t think that’s enough for the trope to stand on its own. The description doesn’t even go into detail about what multi colored hair tells us about a character. I think creators using Multicolored Hair to make a character design striking is worth noting but I think that and other possible meaning MH could have are covered by broader appearance tropes like Distinctive Appearances, Mark of the Supernatural, and Duality Motif.
If Heterochromia / Mismatched Eyes by itself isn’t a trope then the same thing does for Multicolored Hair.
I did a wick check for this trope at Multicolored Hair Wick Check.