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- Make sure that the example makes sense to both people who don't know the work AND don't know the trope.
- Wrong: The Mentor: Kevin is this to Bob in the first episode.
- Right: The Mentor: Kevin takes Bob under his wing in the first episode and teaches him the ropes of being a were-chinchilla.
- Never just put the trope title and leave it at that.
- Wrong: Badass Adorable
- Right: Badass Adorable: Xavier, the group's cute little mascot, defeats three raging elephants with both hands tied behind his back using only an uncooked spaghetti noodle.
- When is normally far less important than How.
- A character name is not an explanation.
- Wrong: Full Moon Silhouette: Diana
- Right: Full Moon Silhouette: At the end of her transformation sequence into Moon Princess Misty, Diana is shown flying across the full moon riding a rutabaga.
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Edited by Synchronicity on Sep 18th 2023 at 11:42:55 AM
Musician/Composer
Reposting from the previous two threads, so they won't get lost.
This was just added to the They Changed It, Now It Sucks! entry on YMMV.Mobile Suit Gundam SEED:
- Many fans remained hopeful for a new cast in the Remaster dub, however many then found the dialogue, delivery and production of the new version entirely lacking as compared to the original Japanese or Ocean performances.
Is this considered a valid example?
He/His/Him. No matter who you are, always Be Yourself.
Its a YMMV entry, tread carefully not to remove opinions just because we disagree.
Edited by AegisP on Nov 9th 2021 at 4:47:34 AM
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Superbad has No Antagonist listed, but I'm pretty sure the cops are technically antagonists for the third act, even if they also team up with Fogell for part of the movie.
I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
Musician/Composer
I understand. I was only trying to help.
Anyway, I’ve added the following examples on Trivia.One Piece, given that the cast was just announced:
- Dawson Casting: For the Live-Action Adaptation:
- Nami was 18 when she made her debut. Emily Rudd was 28 during casting.
- The 19-year-old Zoro is played by the 24-year-old Mackenyu.
- Taz Skylar, who played Sanji, was also 24 during casting.
Thoughts?
He/His/Him. No matter who you are, always Be Yourself.
You did good, dont feel bad. You are awesome. And I think those One Piece examples are good.
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Musician/Composer
I see.
He/His/Him. No matter who you are, always Be Yourself.
I would remove them for now. We don’t know yet that they will be teens in the show.
Musician/Composer
Did just that. I'm also thinking of adding this example to The Other Darrin:
- Monkey D. Luffy, Roronoa Zoro, Nami, Usopp and Sanji have been voiced in all previous appearances by Colleen Clinkenbeard, Christopher Sabat, Luci Christian, Sonny Strait and Eric Vale, respectively. For their live-action debut, they are respectively portrayed by Iñaki Godoy, Mackenyu, Emily Rudd, Jacob Romero Gibson and Taz Skylar.
Is it considered a true example of this trope?
Edited by gjjones on Nov 9th 2021 at 9:01:15 AM
He/His/Him. No matter who you are, always Be Yourself.
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I say no since it's an adaption.
What? The Other Darrin is for changes within the same continuity/work. It is the expectation that adaptations use different actors.
Captain Cryptic
Pokémon Protagonists and Rivals: Sinnoh has this example:
- Adaptational Modesty: Downplayed in the anime, where Dawn's and Barry's scarves are notably shorter than they are in the game. Lucas, in his one cameo in Giratina and the Sky Warrior, gets to keep his full-length.
Somehow, I don't think Adaptational Modesty applies to scarves.
"My job here is done." "But you didn't do anything."
Yeah, that makes no sense as written. I'm not entirely sure how it could ever make sense.
Does Americans Hate Tingle apply if the work isn't released in the country yet and the reactions are only based on promotion material?
It was added to Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings ages ago to describe the mainland Chinese reception to the trailers and casting/movie information, but says nothing about the reception to the actual movie itself since China still hasn't shown it in cinemas (and may remain that way apparently).
With the movie coming out on Disney Plus tomorrow-ish, people in China will probably be able to watch leaks of it online and give a proper reaction soon, but otherwise not sure if the example should stay or not.
Americans Hate Tingle is about a character being disliked in another market. That's just a laundry list of complaints that Chinese people supposedly have about the film as a whole.
Does Uncertain Doom count if they catch a killer but they still have an unknown amount of victims/hidden bodies?
Does this example from Our Imps Are Different count or should it be on another trope page:
- Supergirl (2015): Due to Adaptation Deviation, two imps, one a legendary DC antagonist / Anti-Hero, the other a more obscure character, who are more like Human Aliens and they seem to have a true form which isn't a You Cannot Grasp the True Form type.
- They have Reality Warper powers, Time Travel powers, superhuman strength and are The Juggernaut so these should in theory be a Story-Breaker Power, but the characterization the imps get often means the story-breaking element goes by the wayside in order to limit their powers. When they have used their powers, they've been beaten by Supergirl and her team over several episodes.
- We only see two imps as major characters (although it is noted that J'on Jonnz in a flashback played with some imps when he was younger, but these were minor characters who had limited personality and there to provide Back Story for J'on):
- Mister Mxyzptlk, who in this case is not a short Great Gazoo type with a bizarre true form◊; instead he has Adaptational Attractiveness in his two forms he's taken, and that the form portrayed by Thomas Lennon is his actual true form.
- Nyxlygsptlnz, also known as Nyxly, a female imp portrayed by Peta Sargeant, who has the same sort of powers as Mister Mxyzptklk, only she's Stupid Evil unlike him who made a Heel–Face Turn and was eventually Hoist by Her Own Petard, partially for being Stupid Evil.
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Uncertain Doom is the status of a particular character, so probably not.
I have a question about this Art Evolution entry on Shin Megami Tensei V:
- Art Evolution:
- In the last few games, the basic Angel has been depicted as a winged blonde woman in bondage gear. The Daily Demon showcase videos show that they have been redesigned as androgynous winged figures in white robes who wear golden masks.
- As shown in the first Daily Demon showcase video, Jack Frost received a slight, but noticeable update to his design.
- In the last few games, the basic Angel has been depicted as a winged blonde woman in bondage gear. The Daily Demon showcase videos
I'm wondering about these entries because this game has a different artist than the artist who worked on the earlier games where the above two demons debuted. Is it still Art Evolution when a different artist draws a redesign that isn't even guaranteed to last past this game?
If an in-universe movie about a Monster Clown titled That is meant to be a stand-in for It (2017), would that be Fictional Counterpart or some other trope?
Different World, Different Movies?
No, that's some other redesign trope.
He/Him
Is it wrong that I'm thinking this is misuse? From Yuri is My Job!:
- Last Lousy Point: Hime is unable to accept it whenever people dislike her, believing that such people are a threat to her, and can potentially ruin her façade.
Because it sounds more like Somebody Doesn't Love Raymond or something.
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I'm helping!
Yeah that's a wild misuse.
Trouble Cube continues to be a general-purpose forum for those who desire such a thing.
Logic Girl
I've got two:
- I already asked this, but no one responded, so I'm gonna try again. Basically, Jar Potty lists an example from Good Omens, in which Aziraphale and Crowley drink some alcohol, then strain, after which, the bottles are full. However, I doubt that's an example, as they're an angel and a demon, and I think the implication was that they were removing the actual alcohol from their bloodstreams rather than peeing.
- I know Accidental Innuendo is YMMV, but some examples seem a little forced. For instance, on AccidentalInnuendo.Live Action TV, it lists Maria being scared to slide down a fireman's pole as an example, because "this isn't the first time a woman has been afraid of a long pole" or something (I guess they thought it looked phallic, though maybe it was a joke on stripper poles)?
This in The SpongeBob Movie: Sponge Out of Water:
- Breaking the Fourth Wall:
- When the background characters refuse to go the surface.
Random Fish: All secondary characters come with me.
- Also at the end of the film when Squidward acknowledges the music playing in the background.
Squidward: That music must mean things are back to normal.
- When the background characters refuse to go the surface.
Also I think I got enough consensus to remove the Gundam example.
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