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  • Approval of God: On his Facebook, Robert Fripp acknowledged the infamous "it just works" meme.
  • Big Name Fan:
    • In 1981, Musician magazine ran a joint interview with Robert Fripp and Joe Strummer of The Clash, in which Fripp and Strummer turned out to be warmly appreciative of each other's music; Strummer described a 1969 King Crimson show he'd seen as "Terrific ... really terrific," and Fripp described a Clash concert he'd been to as "The best rock and roll show I've been to in six years."
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    • Colin Meloy has the cover of Lark's Tongues in Aspic as his Twitter avatar.
  • Creator Backlash: Averted somewhat. The group will still play older tracks ("Red", "Larks' Tongues in Aspic Pt. 2", and some of the 1980s repertoire are still used in the recent lineups), but Robert (and probably the group) are sick and tired of the fans who only want to hear the old stuff, and completely ignore the group's new repertoire. Promoters who bank on the group's prog rock history to sell seats don't help either.
    • Moved into full aversion with King Crimson Mk. 8. Fripp and company seem more comfortable revisiting more of the group's back catalogue, operating under the concept of "Fresh When It Was Written". The use of three drummers as the frontline of the band helps keep things from being too much of a retread...
    • Robert Fripp has expressed disdain for Lizard, calling it "unlistenable." Though he's changed his attitude recently, having performed songs from the album on the 2017 tour. Fripp was impressed by the remastering work done by Steven Wilson for the 2009 re-release of Lizard, stating that "For the first time I have heard the Music in the music", and has grown to appreciate its place in King Crimson's catalog.
    • Fripp has said he is unhappy with how The ConstruKction of Light turned out, due to the conditions it was recorded, including the material not being performed live before its release, which previously allowed the band to perfect songs before recording them, Pat Mastelotto not being able to use his ideal drum kit setup, and Fripp placing priority on songwriting instead of production.
      • This was rectified for 2019's Heaven And Earth boxset. As the original tracks had went missing, Pat Mastelotto re-recorded all of the drum parts on his current kit, and the album was given a new mix by one of Crimson's live engineers. The remix, entitled The ReconstruKction Of Light was included in the boxset and will receive a stand-alone release (paired along with the original recording) in Fall, 2019.
  • He Also Did:
    • Robert Fripp has had a long association with Brian Eno, lending his guitar to numerous tracks as well as other Eno productions of David Bowie and Talking Heads. Adrian Belew also had an already impressive résumé, having played on the latter's Remain in Light album and its supporting tour as well as with Bowie and Frank Zappa.
    • Many of the members in the pre Discipline lineups were part of or moved on to other bands including Foreigner, Bad Company, Emerson, Lake & Palmer, Asia, Yes, and Uriah Heep, as well as working as session musicians on many recordings.
    • Bill Rieflin of the current line up was previously a member of Ministry while also playing small parts for Nine Inch Nails and R.E.M..
    • Jon Anderson who contributed the vocals to the track "Prince Rupert Awakens" on Lizard is best known for being the vocalist of Yes.
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    • Peter Sinfield produced Roxy Music's debut album. John Wetton was also Roxy's touring bassist.
    • Jamie Muir indirectly caused the creation of Yes' album Tales From Topographic Oceans; at Bill Bruford's wedding, he gifted Jon a copy of the book Autobiography of a Yogi, from which a footnote inspired the album's central themes.
    • Fripp and Tony Levin also have had a long association with Peter Gabriel going back to his solo debut.
    • Tony Levin played bass and Chapman Stick on Pink Floyd's A Momentary Lapse of Reason and was also the bassist for Anderson Bruford Wakeman Howe.
    • Pat Mastelotto was the drummer for the pop rock group Mr. Mister, famous for their pair of 1985 #1 hits "Broken Wings" and "Kyrie". He also played drums on XTC's Oranges and Lemons album.
  • Name's the Same:
    • No, David Cross is not the one who played Tobias Funke in Arrested Development.
    • Adrian Belew is the name of a minor Springfield Elementary school student in The Simpsons though it may be very likely that he was named after the band's fifth vocalist.
  • No-Hit Wonder: Like many prog bands, King Crimson were primarily focused on albums and rarely released singles at all. As a result their only chart entries are fairly minor ones: An edited version of "The Court of the Crimson King" reached #80 on the Hot 100 in early 1970, and both "Heartbeat" and "Sleepless" scraped the bottom of the Mainstream Rock chart in the 1980s. In the UK, "Matte Kudasai" was their highest charting single (of three), but only made it to #76.
  • Old Shame:
    • As stated in Creator Backlash, Robert Fripp was not fond of Lizard outright, calling it unlistenable. Though the album itself is actually well liked among fans, and his own attitude towards Lizard softened with the band's latest lineup and the album's 2009 remaster.
    • Gordon Haskell, the vocalist who stepped in to replace Greg Lake after he departed the band was not very fond of his time with the band, later calling Robert Fripp a fascist.
    • Mr. Fripp does not look upon Islands negatively, but he feels that particular lineup was "too much of a jam band", so the music (or at least live performances) didn't have as much substance.
  • Reclusive Artist: Robert Fripp (who combines Gentleman Snarker with Smart People Wear Glasses - read his blog).
    • Although now that DGM Live (King Crimson's/Fripp's record company) has an official YouTube channel, the shell is a little more transparent.
  • The Pete Best: Judy Dyble, who had had already been this to Fairport Convention as the first female vocalist in the seminal folk-rock band, was in an early lineup of King Crimson.
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  • Retroactive Recognition: Greg Lake and Ian MacDonald were part of the original lineup. John Wetton was also in the band at one point.
  • Throw It In!: Gordon Haskell's laughter at the end of "Indoor Games". Also, the spoken part of "Thela Hun Ginjeet" (see Spoken Word in Music in the Main tab).
  • Too Soon: "Coda: I Have a Dream"'s lyrics get omitted during concerts because of what they mention - which can be quite harsh depending on who hears it, and what their memories of the events mentioned are, which include the World Trade Center, Saddam Hussein and Timothy McVeigh.
  • What Could Have Been:
    • Elton John auditioned for the band during the sessions for In the Wake of Poseidon. Others who auditioned include future Roxy Music singer Bryan Ferry and Yes vocalist Jon Anderson. The latter gives us a small taste of what could have happened had he been accepted into the band on the movement "Prince Rupert Awakes" from the song "Lizard", as Haskell had already left the band by the time that section was recorded and Anderson was brought in to record the vocal part. King Crimson lyricist Peter Sinfield later produced Roxy Music's debut album and John Wetton served as a touring bassist in 1974.
    • In an inverse to the above, vocalist and lyricist Adrian Belew originally aimed to become a member of Talking Heads having played on Remain in Light and its supporting tour; frontman David Byrne declined, however, which is what allowed Belew room to become the frontman of King Crimson upon its revival in the 1980s.
    • During the Islands era, Fripp toyed with the idea of recording Crimson songs in different styles than originally conceived; e.g "The Court of the Crimson King" as a Chicago Blues number.
    • Rick Kemp, of Steeleye Span fame, was selected as the bass player for the oncoming 1971 tour (shortly before Islands was released), but eventually turned down the offer at the last minute.
    • Fripp considered inviting Daryl Hall of Hall & Oates to be the lead singer for the Discipline band that later morphed into the Mark IV 1980s lineup of King Crimson, having greatly enjoyed producing Hall's debut solo effort Sacred Songs. Hall turned the gig down, as Hall & Oates were currently on a hot streak as hitmakers.
    • Plans were made for Ian McDonald to rejoin the band for the Red tour, but Fripp disbanded the group before the tour began.
    • Jazz pianist Keith Tippet declined an offer to join the band full-time. Despite this, he contributed to In The Wake of Poseidon, Lizard, and Islands heavily as a session musician.
    • Robert Fripp asked former Japan frontman David Sylvian to join King Crimson in the '90s, coming off their successful collaborations. Sylvian declined, which led to the reformation of the Discipline-era lineup.


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