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Mar 3rd 2018 at 1:34:22 AM •••

  • Okay so i usually liked Infamous Sphere's Infamous Queer video series, they're usually pretty alright. Not so much her review of The Grand Budapest Hotel however, now she discovered she doesn't actually like the movie anymore, fair enough, but throughout the video i feel like it's just completely morose and depressing for no real reason. Like i can see why reviewers make video funny, cause otherwise the video is miserable and that's what this review was, miserable. You're reviewing a quirky Wes Anderson movie! Lighten up! Needless to say i stopped watching her videos cause it's not worth it if it's just gonna make me depressed.

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Feb 4th 2018 at 7:19:17 AM •••

hydrix: How to recognize a Great/Bad anime in just one episode (by digitbro) is something I watch in general to give myself an idea how you can animate a great opening for something that will last very long and a decent chunk of it is well-made/well-explained... until part 2 when he talks about Lucky Star. Now, the beginning of part 2 already was more of "defending openings I like other people don't" instead of "how a great opening to an anime is structured", but it at least did talk about how these openings still manage to still make a good impression upon first-time viewing, which makes it disappointing for me when he talks more about how the opening of Lucky Star was controversial and how he can relate to this opening, outright ignoring that not everyone feels the same way he does. The next episode is indeed much better, but that part gives you about the same degree of satisfaction as hearing someone that says that he is going to talk about great paintings only to stop in front of one masturbating while watching it. If the anime community is so toxic that users actively and permanently engage in such behavior it goddamn sucks.

Even though Hydrix kinda has a point on this, I'd like to share my opinion on the last sentence, the one in bold. I think it needs to be removed as it has no point except for a hasty Take That! to the anime community. You just can't generalize a fanbase based on how members of it act like: it's called Hate Dumb. And this is why I think anime fans get a lot less respect than Bronies and other infamous fandoms.

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Oct 19th 2017 at 7:53:00 PM •••

Cutting this entry.

  • Tropers/Rossmallo: I Hate Everything 's "5 EPIC Ways To Be a You Tube Celebrity! ✔". It's bad enough that at a fair few times it's coming off as whining about the copyright issues he's going through. It's bad enough that he is so utterly openly hostile and confrontational to everything involved. It's bad enough that it's all said in such over the top smugness that it destroys his usual level headed tone. But no, what makes all of this utterly infuriating is "I hold nothing personally against any of the people mentioned, I guess"... Yeah, no. He shows multiple examples of certain youtubers in the background, calls some out by name, and even insults one of the previously mentioned people in the outtro, after he's said this. While yes, some of the criticisms are valid, this whole bit at the end just makes it come off as "Fuck you, but not really." Either stand your ground and embrace the backlash or don't say it at all.

While the problems he lists that lead up to his main problem are valid enough, the main reason the troper gives makes no sense. Somebody can dislike a person's content while not disliking them as a person, and him giving examples of Youtubers who he dislikes the content of doesn't mean he has anything against them as people. Said user he insulted was, again, insulting the content. Not them as a person.

Oct 8th 2017 at 1:07:25 PM •••

Why on Earth are there DMOS entries for Go Animate? Go Animate videos are universally atrocious due to the software's poor quality and major limitations and the ineptitude of virtually every individual who attempts to construct them. How any sane individual can react in a negative fashion to any Go Animate video is simply baffling, since you should know that, before watching one, it's going to be artless, plotless nonsense - that's why they can be hilarious at times. Thus, these DMOS entries just seem ridiculous and unnecessary. "Good" Go Animate videos simply cannot exist.

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Nov 27th 2017 at 4:44:44 AM •••

You kind of have a point, but I think the particular videos are bad even for GoAnimate standards to the eyes of these people. Also, it's not completely plotless.

Aug 17th 2017 at 9:23:15 PM •••

I want to contest this entry.

  • Bismuth 83: This is more like a trend (or several), but whatever. The "[insert character here] reacts to X" trend. It's horribly unoriginal, involves stealing content, and it's putting words in people's mouths if the characters are real! Next, the "[character the creator dislikes here] does something bad/embarrassing/stupid" trend. Much the same as above, but it gets worse when the character in the video isn't even the one in question! Third, the "If X likes Y, we gotta shoot them" trend. Dear lord, where do I begin? The fact that this was stolen from a Jimmy Davis YTP, the fact they don't edit it at all (the video could be titled "If Bob likes Tropeville, we gotta shoot him," and the actual video would go: "If you like Walt Disney, we gotta shoot you."), or the Fan Hater-y way the videos work?

This entry explicitly criticizes an entire trend of video as opposed to a particular video belonging to said trend. That'll be like if I wrote an entry for reaction channels as a whole without specifying that only one particular reaction ticked me off.

Also, one could argue that the videos fall under "satire" by Fair Use. So no, it's not stealing content.

Should I cut it?

Jul 30th 2017 at 6:33:22 PM •••

I think "I hate everything" edited Parachomp's review. Towards they end, the person calls themself an idiot, and it sound a lot like the author editing it. Here's the text incase it gets edited: Para Chomp: "Search for the Worst: Suicide Squad". I will not argue against negative criticism against Suicide Squad (2016), it's justified. What I will argue against is the constant questioning of the existence of various characters. One can see them as IHE pointing out them being unnecessary for the film but when he compared Killer Croc to Gorilla Grodd, you could tell that either wasn't the case or he's being too vague with the intentions of his words. There is nothing wrong with either of them as characters in terms of premise, same can be said about Captain Boomerang and Katana. All four of these characters have proven their worth in other pieces of media. There are so many characters who use trick weapons for combat and Katana was as relevant as ever due to Beware the Batman. One of the film's problems is its hacing many unnecessary characters, but these characters have been well written in other media and have relevance to the source material which is something IHE doesn't acknowledge. I do realize that I am an IDIOT trying to win such an argument. This is someone who doesn't care about the history of comics nor their characters, only wants a good movie, and uses Aquaman and Kite Man as their Butt-Monkey. Once again, the wound that the The Comics Code has left shows its ugly face proving that even the Darker and Edgier adaptations can't hide it.

Jul 11th 2017 at 2:46:00 PM •••

I seriously think the entry for RWBY (the third one about Volume 4) needs to go. Don't get me wrong, the other two about RWBY are total shit themselves (whining, complaining, and accusing the writers of no integrity because they didn't bend for someone else's desires) but this one takes it to Blatantly Untrue levels or just plain nonsensical.

Like saying that Ruby laughing at the jacket is knowingly laughing at Pyrrha - even though she wasn't even present for the conversation tying Pyrrha to that. Or that by laughing at a brown bunny, Ruby is laughing at Velvet Scarlatina? So, what next, Ruby wishes death upon Coco and Velvet by eating chocolate bunnies Easter morning?

And Ruby laughing at the jacket apparently being a regression of character development? Ruby has always been amused by things that she sees as silly, and seeing as there's no reason she would know that the jacket is connected to Pyrrha, she'd see it as silly. Jaune wearing the jacket has absolutely nothing to do with it.

Then there's the claim that the writers of RWBY don't care to respect their characters, audience intelligence or their own writing integrity - we have seen time and time again that RT loves their characters, the audience, and their writing integrity - now and in Monty's day. The entry in question sums up to false accusations because the writers didn't break their integrity and bend to the will of what someone else wanted.

Edited by WhoNeedsAMango
May 9th 2017 at 6:07:43 AM •••

Cutting this section of a DMOS

  • Then, after he levels up, he goes to face off against Kyogre. Does he attempt to capture it? Nope. Instead, he just immediately makes it faint and treats it like a victory. Now, before anyone points out that maybe PBG is just doing a "No Legendaries" run, I'd like to remind everyone of something. One of his main Pokemon is Lawfanda. Lawfanda is a Latias. Latias is, you guessed it, a Legendary. Plus, PBG had a Master Ball at the time, so he could've easily caught Kyogre without any hassle. He essentially could've easily captured a very powerful and useful Pokemon but instead made it faint for no good reason. So, to summarize, the video was essentially just one big waste of time.

PBG encountered wild Pokemon in the cave of origin before he fought Kyogre. So catching it would violate the rule of only catching the first pokemon you encounter in an area.

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Feb 13th 2017 at 1:40:03 PM •••

** SCP Ihpkmn: I have far less kind things to say about Jontron. On a recent live stream (recent as of mid-February 2017), he went off on a political tirade about... well, let's just say that it was rather offensive and leave it at that. I find it impossible to enjoy his work now that I know that he's a close-minded jackoff, and this is a perfect example of why content creators shouldn't let their politics mix with their work. Not helping matters is the fact that most of the comments sections on his videos are now filled with support from groups that are... exercising the Rule Of Cautious Editing Judgement here... better suited to Jackson, Mississippi circa the 1960s than the modern zeitgeist. TL;DR: Fuck off, Jontron.

Unless there was an episode where Jon goes on a tirade on the recent politics in the middle on a review, I removed this one because it's more about Jon himself rather than a video he did.

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Feb 13th 2017 at 1:45:16 PM •••

Seconding that it winds up being too broad and definitely more about Jon himself, but a livestream (even if it's not a review) is still a work.

Feb 13th 2017 at 1:48:16 PM •••

I wasn't sure myself if livestreams can be considered a work, because you don't necessarily have to be a character as such.

Jul 30th 2016 at 9:01:49 AM •••

This is my entry for Phantom Strider.

Phantom Strider (real name: John Strider) is a Caustic Critic from the UK who is often described as a less angry, more forgiving Mysterious Mr. Enter with better editing. Unlike most Caustic Critics however, he does almost all of his reviews in the form of Top 10s. He's also pretty humble, admitting to being biased at times and making it clear in all of the intros to his videos that he's not a Fan Hater ("If you don't think these [[insert topic of the list here]] are bad, that's great! It's just my silly personal opinion. And I'm glad you can enjoy these [[topic of the list]] while I can't.") But the former didn't become more blatantly obvious than in his Top 10 Worst Cartoon Remakes list. It was pretty good for the most part. There's just three things I didn't like and/or understand. 1) I'm confused as to how the Powerpuff Girls reboot wasn't at #10 considering he was the least critical of it compared to the others on the list. 2) I didn't really understand the Take That! against the trailer for the new Ghostbusters movie. I know that the all-female cast didn't get a very warm welcome, but if there's one thing I know, it's that trailers can't be trusted. You don't know if the movie gonna be good regardless of the cast or not. But the D Mo S for me is his #1 pick: every Scooby-Doo remake in existence! Look, I don't care if he doesn't like Scooby-Doo; that's his opinion. But his reason behind his #1 pick shows just how biased he can be. Strider's criticisms about Scooby-Doo are legitimate, if debatable (he found the show formulaic, boring and "nothing special"), but his only criticism about all of the remakes that followed was basically "the series won't just die already!" In his defense, if I remember correctly, I think he did mention at some point that he doesn't feel like any of the remakes added anything new or interesting to the series. But even if he did, it was completely overshadowed by his rant about how annoyed he is that the franchise is still going after 40 years. I totally understand where he's coming from; I get pretty surprised myself when I find out something that came out when I was a kid is still going on to this day, but I wouldn't be so annoyed as to place it at #1 on a "Worst Remakes" list and bash it simply because of that one fact. Someone in the comments section called him out on this and even accused him of only including all of the remakes simply he didn't like the original (he never replied). I don't believe in Unsubscribing, so I'll continue to watch his videos. But you'd think somebody who claims to enjoy engaging in intelligent conversation would have a better reason for his #1 pick than "there's too many remakes".

Anyone know how to reword this so it isn't basically a Wall of Text?

Jul 10th 2016 at 6:51:33 AM •••

     PhantomStrider 
  • AFreakyDude I like PhantomStrider. I really do, but there are times where he does get unoriginal at times. His Top 10 Worst Cartoon Characters list is a bit of a D Mo S for me and some others. A couple of characters on his list still have charm and likability on them like Angelica Pickles and Bloo. I mean the way he talked about Bloo made it sound like he's a complete sociopath. Also, some people say that he's just a calmer Mr. Enter with better editing. There are shows and characters he hates that Enter also hates. Likewise, he likes what Enter also likes. Was "4-year old's shopping list" a coincidence?

Cut for being the main reason being that Phantom criticized characters that the poster liked. Also one example for a show doesn't warrant their own folder.

Edited by TheFarmboy
Jun 11th 2016 at 6:57:25 AM •••

Cutting the last sentence from this entry.

That example's not anywhere close to similar. They listed games that were on playstation that happened to also be on other consoles. His/her example was of something that was never on a Nintendo console in the first place.

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Jun 13th 2016 at 6:48:41 AM •••

Yeah, that's pretty much nonsense.

Mar 4th 2016 at 11:33:22 AM •••

Keyblade 333: Watch Mojo did two lists that made me simply give up on them as a whole. The first list was Top 10 Best Main/Anime Vampires. On the official website the winner of the poll was Dio Brando, who won in a huge landslide compared to the number two favorite, Alucard. When the actual video came out, Alucard was put at number one despite this, and despite a rule of no two characters from the same series, they had two characters from the same series on the list. I personally took issue with this since it meant that Watch Mojo was willing to just go in and edit polls for arbitary reasons, which showed how dishonest they were as a whole. The second reason was there video called Top 10 worst Video Game Protagonists. They made a honorable mention for Luke von Fabre, which made me lose what ever respect I had for them since Luke is one of the most developed characters in a video game period and no doubt people who voted for him were people who only based it on the first section of the game. Just goes to show Watch Mojo is really crappy when it comes to being honest and does not do their research.

Putting this one up for contention. I think this one is reeking of They Panned It, Now They Suck. More notably the second section.

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Mar 5th 2016 at 1:47:58 AM •••

The part about Watch Mojo bending their own rules and editing polls, if true, sounds like an acceptable example. But everything else is "My favourite character didn't win and that's unacceptable", and should be cut.

Feb 24th 2016 at 4:04:19 PM •••

GF 93: Don't get me wrong, I think One Minute Melee is a very good series for the most part, but my personal DMOS has to go to "Zero vs. Meta Knight". It was a great idea for a fight for various reasons (The two not only both being sword-wielding mentors and friendly rivals to the main heroes of their respective franchises, but also being very popular and Badass characters in their own right), so it'd be a great episode for either this series or a Death Battle, right? Sadly not. It was a massive disappointment in several respects, and just overall reeked of wasted potential. The fight itself was very pedestrian for the series' usual fast-paced and exciting standards, with neither character (Especially Meta Knight, who is limited to only his basic swordplay and not even allowed to use his Super Smash Bros. moves or abilities despite using the same voice and appearance from there) really being able to do anything much considering their usual amount of powers and abilities that could have come into play, and the animation was nothing spectacular. Dishonorable mention however, has to go to the ending, for the sheer amount of Critical Research Failure and Out of Character-ness abound from both characters. Zero uses the Rekkoha to summon lightning, Meta Knight Screams Like a Little Girl (Despite him normally being The Stoic and never reacting to anything in such a way in his own series) and lets his guard down, allowing Zero to inflict a No-Holds-Barred Beatdown which ends with him stabbing Meta Knight through the face with his superheated Z-Saber, before slashing upward to bisect him vertically, with blood splattering across the ground from each of the two halves. Not only is it needlessly graphic and brutal for a series whose fights don't normally end in death, but it goes completely against Zero's established character, who outright refuses to kill sentient living beings. With that in mind, he could have easily knocked Meta Knight's sword out of his hand and then sliced his mask off from there, which would have been a nice Call Back to how he's defeated in the Kirby series.

I'm going to have to object to this one. One Minute Melees are decided without any research. So you can't criticize lack of research when that's the whole point of the melee.

Edited by Uttergenius
Dec 8th 2015 at 11:13:42 AM •••

Cutting an entry:

  • Morphin Brony: I'm surprised nobody has mentioned "Top 10 Cartoons of the 2010s" yet. On this list, Teen Titans Go! is given an Honorable Mention. There's Critical Research Failure, and then there's this. Regardless of my opinion on TTG, there are many people who would be inclined to disagree with this choice. Not to mention the decade isn't even over yet.

The rules explicitly forbid entries based solely on differing opinions. Also, it's not Critical Research Failure because you can't gauge the quality of a TV show.

Nov 19th 2015 at 7:45:36 PM •••

  • stairwolf83: Watch Mojo's list of Top 10 PlayStation Games of All Time. The called Naughty Dog a "cinematic force". What the fuck is a "cinematic force"? And there are also several games, that aren't even PlayStation exclusive, like Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas and Resident Evil 2. They aren't even Sony's own IP's! The list also lacks several true PlayStation games, like Spyro the Dragon (PS 1 only) and Crash Bandicoot (also PS 1 only). It would be the same if I made a Top 10 Nintendo Games of All Time-list and then put fucking Halo in there.

I find this to be a poor entry. "Cinematic force" means Naugthy Dog is a powerhouse at making their games cinematic. Games don't have to be PlayStation-exclusive to be called PlayStation games. And the final sentence is meaningless because Halo games have never been released on Nintendo systems at all.

Oct 28th 2015 at 9:46:50 AM •••

The folder:other code seems to be broken of some sort. The folder function is not working. Is there a way to fix it?

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Oct 29th 2015 at 2:22:55 AM •••

Too long, I think. Folders have a maximum size.

Nov 18th 2015 at 9:12:32 PM •••

It's kind of getting out of hand. What should we do?

Aug 27th 2015 at 1:01:32 AM •••

Removing this and putting it here:

  • ModelOmega: Now admittedly I've been pretty on and off with Watch Mojo.com but their recentish "Top Ten Vampires in Anime" is strangely and without any mention missing a certain limb freezing, eye-beam shooting, time-stopping, steam roller dropping entry. Yes Dio freaking Brando was completely absent, not even an honourable mention despite being not just the highest voted entry on the viewer suggestion poll, but the highest entry that also beat the second highest (which ended up being #1 in the video) by more then twice the votes. Yet the people at Mojo not only left him out completely, but offered zero reason why, which just shows they really don't care about fan input.

Really? A list didn't mention something you liked so now it's Ruined Forever? This comes off as being petty and bitter because someone disagreed with you.

Aug 7th 2015 at 10:56:07 AM •••

  • Shonengirl: A meta example. While I find MatPat's videos amusing and educational often, his self-centeredness can get pretty grating. After Satoru Iwata's death on July of 2015, many people, on Twitter and other social media, gave their respects to the man and all he did... However, not Mat. He was all "Hey guys, wanna see the next awesome video?". While this kind of irritated me when The Mysterious Mr Enter did it, with Mat, after all the criticism of Nintendo he did, claiming to be a Nintendo fan, to see indifference from him, while his fellow Game Theorists like Gaijin Goomba paid their respects, was just infuriating. At least a token mention would be nice, Mat! Or could you not hear the news over your own ego?

Aren't real-life examples not allowed on this page? Also what did Mr. Enter do?

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Nov 19th 2015 at 7:20:45 PM •••

Removed it. Examples should be about creators doing something wrong, not creators not doing something right.

Jul 11th 2015 at 3:30:13 AM •••

(On Potato Potato's Feminist Frequency moment) How is Anita a Sacred Cow? If she was, people wouldn't criticize her and her videos as much as they do

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Aug 6th 2015 at 9:53:11 PM •••

She isn't. She is reviled by anyone outside of Tumblr. Not even true feminists (the ones who actually want men and women to be treated equally and don't complain about the "objectification" and violence against women in media") agree with her. Will fix.

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Dec 6th 2014 at 2:22:10 PM •••

I deleted this: "* L Dragon 2: I completely understand that Cinema Sins' videos are meant to be humorous, and not to be taken seriously. Heck, I didn't even mind when Jeremy did sins on some of my favorite films (The Dark Knight, The Matrix, Inception, The Avengers, Pacific Rim, etc.), due to their tongue and cheek tone. However, the video he made for Captain America: The Winter Soldier is one of the worst parodies I've seen of the film, as it mainly consists of little more than nitpicks and perceived plot-holes that the film not only explains, but also sometimes come across like he didn't bother to pay attention to the story. This wouldn't be so bad, if it wasn't for the fact that he specifically stated that he disliked the film due to Hype Backlash and perceived "lack of common sense". Basically, this video wasn't him cracking jokes in the name of humor; instead, it was a 20 minute long diatribe of why he views the film as poor without one sense of irony. Add on to the fact that he said that those who like the film are enjoying a Terry Gilliam fever dream, and you have one of the most petty and shallow critiques I've ever seen."

Reason: This is the whole video, and only specific moments are allowed.

Jun 28th 2014 at 3:56:42 PM •••

N8an11 has deleted some entries and used the edit reason "1 Moment per Troper". Isn't the rule "One moment per work to a troper"? N8an11 deleted several of fluffything's entries, even though they were for works fluffything didn't have any other entries for. Later, N8an11 did the same thing to some of Bengson26's entries.

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Jun 28th 2014 at 4:17:11 PM •••

The description on the main page is pretty vague about that. One moment per troper for each work sounds fine to me. Narrowing it down to one moment per troper PERIOD would be way too restrictive IMO.

Jun 29th 2014 at 4:15:41 AM •••

I agree. The main page does say "A Moment may be removed if it is blatantly untrue or otherwise breaks the rules. However, if you do remove an entry, move it to discussion and explain what is wrong (blatantly untrue, multiple entries for the same work, unsigned, etc).", though.

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Jun 4th 2014 at 8:09:26 PM •••

I've just added an entry based on Sonic Shorts. Originally, my entry was going to be about the ending to Sonic Shorts Volume 8. Where all the animators die by the hands of the Sonic Cast. There wasn't much I can say about it other than, "Really? This is how you end the series? And if you're going to make Sega Shorts, how the hell are you going to come back after that bloodbath?" Also I want to mention the fan character skit. I actually found it a little funny, and it's not bashing EVERY Sonic OC. It's humor is more like Jello Apocalypse's Welcome to videos.

May 27th 2014 at 4:04:29 PM •••

  • ilovedededeAGAIN: My DMOS for the Runaway Guys would have to be at the end of Bowser's Magma Mountain during their first collaboration, Mario Party. While I do admit the game changing Chance Time was pretty amazing (The AI (Wario) & Chugga swapping stars, which ultimately granted Chugga the win), that isn't my DMOS. It's at the very end, when they look at the stats for the board (how many spaces they land on, how many coins they collected, etc.). Still not my DMOS. They proceed to look at the most coins they've all held at one time, and obviously Chugga got the most, as he got the Coin Star. Again, still my DMOS. They find out that Chugga beat the AI in terms of most coins held at one time by one coin. One. Measly. Coin. This is where my DMOS kicks in. Chugga, happy about this, immediately gets up to close to the microphone and says "Suck it, Slim" (he's referring to Slim Kirby), because in Slim's Mario Party 5 LP, he lost by one coin. While I don't watch Slim Kirby's videos, I don't think Slim really deserved that, and I'm surprised pretty few fans of Slim have raised an uproar about this. I'm surprised even more that is even considered funny, because, well in my opinion... it isn't. It's a low for the guys. There was absolutely no need for Chugga to insult a fellow popular Let's Player.

Removing this one, as the moment itself is a playful jab at Slim rather than a direct insult, and the bits about people thinking it was funny and Slims fanbase not going crazy came off as the writer complaining about the two. If they want to add it back, they must be much more clear on the problem, as for the most part, they missed the joke.

Apr 27th 2014 at 8:04:44 AM •••

It's Game Theory, just rewrite the example so it mentions the show.

Apr 2nd 2014 at 6:54:31 AM •••

Removed this one because it doesn't speak of any moments that annoyed this person. He/She should change it a little:

Lincoln123: Honestly, why does this fuckhead still write articles for Cartoon Brew. Amid Amidi is everything wrong with the blog, and I just want him to stop going anywhere near a blog like this if he is going to act like a Jerkass! I LOATHE this fucking idiot almost as much as Armond White. I don't think I'm going to browse through this blog until Amid gets some well-deserved karma!!!(He's basically one of my MANY anger switches on the internet.)

Feb 28th 2014 at 9:26:32 AM •••

Removed an entry for being unsigned. I have it right here in case the owner wants to repost it with a proper signature.

  • The Glover videos, especially since they were really close to Jon's departure (really left a sore taste to see him leave on such a low note). Essentially, they actively skipped talking to Mr. Tip (despite the fact that they would've had a much easier time if they just did the tutorials), and they practically actively avoided utilizing gaming-based common sense (there's a cracked wall, you have a very strong weapon, maybe that strong weapon breaks said wall). It's to the point where some of the commentators were sutprised that they got through it so easily as kids despite the fact that two grown men are all thumbs.

Jan 7th 2014 at 8:05:24 AM •••

I apologize for my constant misuage of "Not Making This Up" Disclaimer.

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May 10th 2014 at 5:43:47 AM •••

See if any examples in the Fuck No Tv Tropes tumblr have any insight

May 10th 2014 at 6:09:00 AM •••

Best to not bring in any outside things like that tumblr. It's why This Troper doesn't have a page anymore.

Dec 1st 2013 at 4:04:25 PM •••

Removing this and putting it here where it should have been in the first place. Is a blatant violation of "No contesting entries."

  • Everyones Fool: To be fair, he addressed both of those later on—when it comes to the Lucy example, he said that yes, child abuse on real children is awful, but fictional characters that actually deserve it, he's more inclined to let slide. Whether or not they deserve it is up to the individual, of course. As for the Equestria Girls example—it wasn't a joke. He said on his Twitter that that was actually the reason he didn't go to see it in theaters, along with some of his friends. And he wasn't truly complaining about people who had different opinions than him, he just seemed jaded by the overwhelmingly numerous attitude among bronies of They Changed It, So It Sucks.

Jun 6th 2013 at 2:32:16 PM •••

I'm deleting this:

  • InTheGallbladder: For me, it was the debut, "John Lennon vs. Bill O'Reilly." A lot of its faults can be forgiven, being that it was their first video, but not the fact that whatever effort they put into it was dedicated mostly to making it an anti-conservative "The Reason You Suck" Speech.

Because it's just flat-out wrong. While I think it's obvious that they intended Lennon to win, not a single one of the insults levelled against O'Reilly had to do with his being a conservative. This example is just He Panned It, Now He Sucks!.

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Jun 6th 2013 at 3:23:08 PM •••

I put it back up. The reason it was up there was that the mishandled political element was one of many flaws, and I mentioned it specifically because was the only prominent flaw that couldn't be pinned squarely on Early Installment Weirdness.
The episode picked a known conservative figurhead and tried to make them seem as unsympathetic as possible after bombarding them with insults (among other claims, that they were whoring themselves out to George Bush). This culminates in said figurehead openly and unrepentantly admitting to being malevolent and void of merit after being ordered to "shut the fuck up."
It may not seem like it to you, and that is perfectly fine but it came off as a pretty severe Bias Steamroller to me, mercifully one not present in later episodes..
That's sort of the point of the site (at least for me) to see how different people view the same thing. I for one enjoyed the season 2 finale, though I admit it could have ended with Gorbachev's stanza to no ill effect.

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Jun 7th 2013 at 1:03:39 PM •••

Firstly, this is not (for the most part) a site to "see how different people interpret the same thing". It's a site for cataloging patterns in fiction. Secondly, to add it back on without discussion like that is edit warring, which is a very serious offense. Thirdly, since it was stated that the other flaws were forgivable, they aren't relevant here. Fourthly, the whole point of a rap battle is to insult your opponent, so that's not a valid argument. Fifthly, the example states that it is "anti conservative". It is not. It is anti-Bill O'Reilly. You want to complain about that, fine, but as it is written the example is simply untrue.

Edited by 216.99.32.42
Jun 7th 2013 at 2:47:47 PM •••

All right, here's the revised version:

  • InTheGallbladder: For me, it was the debut, "John Lennon vs. Bill O'Reilly." I know they like to stack the odds, but their treatment of O'Reilly went too far, to the point of coming off as more politically motivated than anything, especially in the following exchange:
John Lennon: Why don't you just take a vacation and shut the fuck up?!
Bill O'Reilly: Because I'm evil! Heart blacker than Don Cheadle!

Jun 8th 2013 at 5:12:04 AM •••

Alright, that's more reasonable.

Mar 18th 2013 at 2:00:48 PM •••

Regarding ShiningArmor87's entry under Platypus Comix: I find it very hard to believe that Peter hates Friendship is Magic. If he legitimately disliked the series, he probably would have slapped up one of those stock vectors of Pinkie on his "Pony-free since 2001" banner, instead of finding an actual makes-sense-in-context screencap...

...and he compared a ditzy lady to a human Derpy Hooves in one of his Island of Misfit Christmas Specials pages...

...and he clarified on the CD! forums that no offense was intended by the last line of his Cricket article and that he was only comparing himself to bronies, in that both get all geeky over what "normal" people would consider to be kids' stuff.

His attitude is more along the lines of indifferent, from what I've seen.

AFTER-THE-FACT EDIT: Yeah, his bit on them here isn't hateful in the least. Modestly complimentary if anything. Only confirming my hypothesis, really.

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Jan 17th 2013 at 1:28:11 AM •••

Cut...

  • kensu: There used to be a humor site called Not My Desk back in the early years of the 2000s, which was a temp workers blog about how much being a temp sucked. Most of the traffic was directed from sites like spinnwebbe and zompist whose readers are, to put it mildly, left-leaning. So you can imagine the train-wreck that occurred when Not My Desk's author posted a vitriolic creationist rant.

...because "kensu" is misremembering. As explained here starting at "Last Friday", not only was this rant neither vitriolic nor creationist (just skeptical of evolution), it was also tongue-in-cheek.

Dec 23rd 2012 at 10:15:23 PM •••

Before a fight breaks out, I thought I could put this in discussion:

  • fluffything: The Runaway Guys are some of my favorite Let's Players out there. Normally, I look forward to their videos. But, their latest video, Little Big Planet Episode 7, had a joke that left a bitter taste in my mouth. Long story short, at one point in the LP, Chuggaa makes a comment about how "Anything can happen with friendship" leading to Jon (I think) commenting (paraphrased) "Oh, so you're finally coming out of the closet? Or should that be stable?". Really? Not just a gay joke, but one aimed at people who like a cartoon? I know Bronies are an easy target, but that was harsh, to say the least.
It's been deleted twice by somebody whose defense appeared to be that they were neither homophobes nor detractors of the show. If you ask me, that shouldn't be relevant to whether it is or isn't offensive.
If I messed up and skipped over something, or if you have a reason it shouldn't be there, then tell me first. Otherwise, I'm putting it up within two weeks and directing attention to this discussion.

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Jan 3rd 2013 at 3:43:29 PM •••

Okay, NCS is in fact at least okay with the show. He name-dropped Fluttershy in his Diddy's Kong Quest LP and is on record referring to "The Best Night Ever" as "pretty good."

Chuggaaconroy is definitely strongly against homophobia, and I recall at least two separate times he's spoken out against it. And apparently he is a Brony, if this video is anything to go by.

Proton Jon and Chuggaaconroy do not hate each other, and the Vitriolic Best Buds thing they have going on in their TRG videos is obviously being Played for Laughs. If you need any evidence that Jon and Chuggaa are on good terms, this Formspring post should do it.

And in regards to Jon being a brony-hater or a homophobe? Eh, no. I don't think he is. He just doesn't give off that hater vibe like DeceasedCrab does. Jon never went out of his way to tell a Brony to go kill himself like DeceasedCrap did, and I read somewhere (it was either Jon's Twitter or his Formspring) that he has a Rainbow Dash 20% Cooler shirt.

Edited by DJVinylScratch
Jan 7th 2013 at 11:33:59 AM •••

But what does that have to do with anything?
Is the exchange as fluffything posted it markedly different from the exchange as it actually played out? If that's the case, then you have a valid defense.
(sorry it took me so long. had to get a part on my computer replaced. I'll extend the deadline a week.)

Edited by InTheGallbladder
Mar 18th 2013 at 1:54:50 PM •••

In all likelihood, Proton Jon was just gently mocking Chugga and the MLP fandom. "You're finally coming out of the closet, or should that be stable?" is not only far from the worst thing to ever be said about the fandom, there's no malice behind it that I can see (Jon didn't get upset, didn't tell Chugga to go kill himself, didn't dwell on the subject, didn't say that bronies should go hang themselves...). Any way you cut it, PJ is a pretty swell guy, not the kind of person who'd deliberately and openly bash an entire culture just for existing. I personally don't think it's worth getting upset over, but ehh, maybe fluffything feels differently.

Edited by Midna
May 31st 2013 at 7:18:06 PM •••

Apparently fluffything changed Runaway Guys DMOS to something similar from the New Super Mario Bros. U longplay. I stand by my previous statement: they weren't seriously advocating jailing people for having an opinion (which would be a violation of basic human rights), it was a joke. But I guess some people are easily offended.

Jun 17th 2013 at 9:13:41 AM •••

Midna, are you familiar with the word "opinion"? What about the word "unfunny"?

Jul 8th 2013 at 4:03:56 PM •••

You don't need to talk down to me, I understand perfectly. I understand that people are allowed to have opinions. I was giving my point of view on things, is all.

Aug 26th 2012 at 6:55:58 AM •••

Does anyone reckon that Oddly's comment on that whole Kony thing is just him contesting an entry even though there's a big fat rule against it? should we take it to discussion?

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Aug 26th 2012 at 9:01:42 AM •••

Yes, and gone it is:

  • Oddlyweird: Actually there has been statements mentioning that Kony 2012 is probably a scam , notably from people who themselves are Ugandan [1]. Not to mention that a Invisible Children exec has joked, while drunk, taking hundreds of thousands of dollars that would have gone to Haiti and also a portion of the money doesn't go to the cause.

Apr 25th 2012 at 3:20:50 PM •••

Given some comments in Wiki Talk, I am pretty sure that Complaining about site policies in DMOS is not OK, but for the benefit of doubt I'll leave them here:

  • Master Hand: In my opinion, TV Tropes cutting all pages related to pornography is simply going too far. I can understand the intent, but this is, essentially, censorship, not to mention that it's rather selective if we're deciding that simply talking about pornography is crossing the line, but swearing is still okay. Not to mention that, if the idea was to avoid paedophilia-related content, cutting everything related to porn in general, even adult porn, seems like Disproportionate Retribution. I'm sorry, but this isn't the right way to handle this. The Content Warnings we used to have were annoying, but at least they were better than this.

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Fighteer MOD
Apr 25th 2012 at 3:41:56 PM •••

You are correct. We do not allow complaining about the wiki on the wiki.

Sen
May 22nd 2012 at 8:58:03 AM •••

Yeah, that's what the discussion pages are for.

... right?

Sen
Mar 25th 2012 at 2:50:44 PM •••

Wait a second, there are good arguments against gay marriage? I haven't heard any.

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Mar 26th 2012 at 12:48:57 AM •••

"There are people who oppose gay marriage for more important things like the way children are brought up or for the preservation of traditional marriage". What negative effects would gay parents have on their children? How would allowing gay marriages affect heterosexual marriages at all? I'm hoping the troper in question will drop by, as I'm curious to hear their answers to these questions. No, really, I'm genuinely curious...

In either case, the page is about personal opinion, and the submission is signed. If the troper feels that the article was the DMOS for that site, then that'll be their contribution to the page.

Sen
Mar 26th 2012 at 3:44:08 PM •••

Well, yes, it's their opinion, but I think they could have used a better justification. I mean, uh, how can you seriously claim that you can oppose gay marriage without "exhibit[ing] intolerance and animosity toward members of a group.", which is The Other Wiki's definition of bigotry?

Mar 26th 2012 at 7:35:34 PM •••

Don't get me wrong, we're definitely on the same side of the issue...I'm just worried that disputing the entry could start an edit war and get the whole page scrapped, if not the entire namespace. DMOS is a fragile institution.

Sen
Apr 2nd 2012 at 1:13:52 PM •••

Which is why I knew I'm supposed to STFU and only bring this up in discussion, haha. I'd really like to hear that explanation too, it's bound to be something I couldn't think of.

Jan 19th 2012 at 10:08:56 PM •••

I would take it Tvtropes itself is exempt from being added to this list? I was thinking of adding a recursive example, citing the DMOS section as being a DMOS for tvtropes (not very funny or original, I know, but....).

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May 5th 2013 at 5:18:55 PM •••

  • sighs* meta-humour is so tired-out and cliched. Just don't bother.

EDIT: I need to start checking the dates on posts before replying.

Edited by 216.99.32.45
Dec 8th 2010 at 2:47:43 AM •••

Can anyone tell me why my example about Dragonball The Abridged series was cut? They made a misogynistic joke, I took offense to it, and signed it. Their was no reason why it should have been cut.

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Dec 8th 2010 at 10:47:40 AM •••

nuclearneo577 on a school computer.

Super Saiya Man loves to remove moments because he disagrees with it. Here is what he left.

The funny part about that joke is she was having the dream in the FIRST PLACE when Vegeta and Krillin showed up to take the Dragon Ball. Not that Rape is Funny. Completely Missing the Point it seems.

Dec 8th 2010 at 11:03:16 PM •••

Thanks for telling me, after I added it I actually did talk to several members of Team 4 star, and the joke was supposed to be Rape Is Comedy, my problem is that instead of actual trying to tell a joke, the joke appears to be Rape Is Funny. If someone doesn't have any objections I am going to add it back in a few days.

Edited by CharredKnight
Aug 4th 2010 at 12:44:57 PM •••

Old entries that were cut

  • Fioriparty's "The True Death of Hinata." This video was a complete bias against Hinata and her fans. It pretty much makes Hinata's apparant death look like a good thing, proclaims that people only like Hinata for her boobs, and then states that all the useful things she's done were anime-only. And just to piss us off, she cuts and pastes her face over important moments in history like as if we see Hinata as the most important thing ever. It was more than just a "Take That!". It was a big fuck-you to all Hinata fans. Yeah, it's ironic that she calls her an overrated pair of boobs when this is her most overrated video.
  • Moviebob had a terrible one in his review of James Cameron's Avatar, where he claimed that it made you a douchebag when you tried to point out one of the film's major flaws (a very standard, stock storyline). Being that critics are meant to inform you of a film's flaws, not encourage you to ignore them (in particular glaring ones), it's not something he should try saying. That's all Movie Bob does these days, childishly insults anyone who disagrees with him.
    • This troper was somewhat put off when Bob referred to himself as "obnoxiously intelligent" in his ScrewAttack debut. This feeling was made far worse by the ridiculous, self-aggrandizing intro to his Sherlock Holmes review. Said intro basically boils down to "I like Sherlock Holmes because I'm smarter than you."
    • His review of Book Of Eli. Anything he addresses that is in the film itself can be derived from the trailers and insists on focusing on the fact that it contains religious elements. His line saying that God allying with the Hero of the story kills all tension is especially grating considering the Hero almost always wins anyway especially in action films and in this film there are plenty of plot twists including Eli dies of a mortal wound inflicted by the villain. As opposed to actually having watched the film; it comes more off like he had to review this movie but didn't want to see it so he instead read up on what other people have said previously about it then negatively attacked it with smug satisfaction.
    • "Smug" is an apt word to describe Bob, and this shows in his review of Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen. It's a bad film? I'll give you that. It's worse than anything Uwe Boll's ever done? NO. Michael Bay does not believe what he's making is high cinema art. Michael Bay does not challenge his critics to one-sided boxing matches in defense of his career. Michael Bay does not exploit his country's tax laws in order to make an obscene profit off of terrible goddamn movies. If anywhere in Bob's film criticism career did his ego burst out of its container, it would be here. To think that his watchers would take such a gross hyperbole at face value is arrogance and smugness of the highest degree.
    • The "encourage you to ignore flaws of things Bob likes" is nothing new. A while ago his viewers called him out for his Double Standard of Nintendo, i.e. giving them a free pass for something he would rip apart any other game, what does he do? Spends half a video whining about how he shouldn't have to call out Nintendo while spending the rest coming up with minor faults or flat out praising them.
  • The Irate Gamer seems to have a different moment for each person, for this troper it's his Ghosts N Goblins review. All video reviewers have slow starts, they usually hit their strides after 4-6 episodes, this being his 5th episode you'd think things would get better. Instead it starts with grammar failure, a pointless Running Gag with a devil costume, a huge Special Effect Failure with Chris pretending he's a little kid (for a 6 year old Cousin Joey has big legs), the fact that he had to switch to the Arcade version early on for invincibility without saying it, he just hopes that people are stupid enough to not notice the difference. Then has the gall to criticize the Engrish ending despite the first line of the review being "When you think of one of the Most Hardest games for the NES." It only went downhill from there.
    • Mine was the Sonic Unleashed review, sure, I have the Wii version of the game, but seriously, it is irritating that his ONLY excuse was "This isn't what a Sonic game is about!", which is wrong, the Sand box mode was a part of quite a few Sonic games, including some of the early ones, but that's not all, everything in that review was problematic, he doesn't even go past the first three levels, giving up after the plane segment, complaining there are no other levels like the first level, BORES THERE ARE MORE LEVELS THAT ARE LIKE THE FIRST LEVEL! Stop insulting the freaking games and cut the joke stealing! IT'S NOT FUNNY!
    • His Kool-Aid Man review, it's... Bad. Yeah, the games are probably bad, but the review itself... BAD, it's just painful to watch.
    • For a long time this show managed to be So Bad, It's Good, but in the Mario Is Missing review when he has the Mario Brothers going number one in the streets! Yeah. Really, Bores? You're so desperate for a laugh you've sunk to toilet humor? With some of the most recognizable faces in gaming? And I'm supposed to like what you produce?
      • Normally he's amusing to watch because of all the research fails in his reviews but, I drew the line when he resorted to toilet humor in his Mario edutainment games review. I had to look away from my screen in disgust.
    • People that found his work to be So Bad, It's Good quickly declared foul from his Brutal Legend/Tekken 6/Turtles in Time Reshelled triple review. Especially the Tekken 6 portion. With Brutal Legend: He only played one hour and decided that was good enough to judge the game, calling it a must-buy. He never mentions the the soundtrack and his only flaw makes no sense. With Tekken 6: He completely bashed the game for idiotic reasons. He hated that the game had Japanese voices and wanted them in English (making him come off as xenophobic), reviewed only the campaign mode (not even touching the actual fighting portion), and then criticized all the praise it was getting believing only his opinion is right.
    • During one E3 2010 video, he was interviewing a Sega representative about Sonic Colors. Shortly into it he said "Sonic Unleashed sucked so I hope Sonic Colors is better" in front of the Sega employee. For many users this crossed the line.
  • Hellfire Commentaries had this during the Brutal Legend playthrough when Ron made a joke about Haiti. The other players were not ammused.
    • Yeah it was less of a DMOS for Hellfire Commentaries and more one for Ron. The other players immediately called him out on it.
  • Doctor Horribles Sing Along Blog: When Joss Whedon proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that no matter what medium he works in, he cannot avoid inserting a cheap random character death for shock-value and thinking that makes it edgy, original, or artistic. Too bad the shock value and novelty wore off about 8 years ago, Joss.
    • Also, the fact that he resorted to the Tara-esque bridge dropping act, even though Horrible, despite being underneath the frigging exploding gun, was unharmed.
  • Homestar Runner, SBemail 201: Right after Strong Bad explains that the best explosions come from his computers, a little montage of said explosions appears. However, Strong Bad being Strong Bad, he's gotta take it a step further. How? He makes the Lappy 486 explode, claiming that doing so himself was better than waiting for someone else to! Look, I don't care how awesome the explosion was, or how popular those "blast-wavy Saturn rings" are nowadays. You DO NOT kill the computer you spent another email entirely saving from your old computers!
  • 2009 is probably The Angry Video Game Nerd's best year yet... with the exception of that atrocious Bugs Bunny's Crazy Castle Review. I don't care if it is Bugs Bunny; watching that Screwy Squirrel Karma Houdini get what was coming to him after 50 years of his antics was immensely satisfying. Having all of that undone with a massive Plot-Induced Stupidity on the Nerd's end was horrifying. Did we really want to see you get shit on and beat to within an inch of your life by Bugs Bunny, James? No, we didn't.
    • It also marked the moment when the insane cinematic antics began to take over the entire videos, with the actual game reviews (which is funnily enough, WHAT THE EFFING NERD WAS ABOUT IN THE FIRST PLACE) as almost a total last minute afterthought. It seems that Rolfe sensed this too and the next video was far more down to earth, with more emphasis on the reviews. I'm all for a fun cinematic review but when its purely cinematic with almost no emphasis on the "review" part, thats where I draw the line.
    • The point of the episode was that, somehow, one company managed to get Nintendo to license the exact same game around six times, most of them on the Gameboy; as well as provide a follow up to the "Bugs Bunny Birthday Blowout" episode. The slapstick isn't a big deal since James is a big fan of old-school cartoons (BTW, the Nerd got shit on because he had one taken a shit on Bugs, a joke he's done more than once) and the video was pretty well made. But the whole episode shouldn't have been a full Nerd episode. The Nerd-Bugs fight should have been a separate video on its own, but without the Excuse Plot of the Crazy Castle reviews.
  • AMV Hell 3 has one such moment: At one point, it plays a chipmunk remix of the last half of ''Cruel Angel's Thesis''. Now, the AMV Hells are filled with crappy gags, taking a very shotgun approach, but the clips tend to average around ten seconds. This gag plays the remix for a full forty-eight seconds, making it nearly five times as long as others - it doesn't seem long, but against the others, it feels almost glacial. But that's not the problem, the Osaka "Must Be Dreaming" is over a minute, and plenty of people love it to bits, thanks to its good effects and editing, excellent song choice, and addition of a few decent jokes. The problem is that, in the remix, there is absolutely no joke. It's literally nothing but Cruel Angel's Thesis remixed. Not into something like a Youtube Poop, it's just the pitch cranked up and a beat whenever the song repeats. It's the equivalent of the Conway Twitty moment; it's not funny, it goes on way too long, there seems to be very little effort, and you really must wonder who decided to add it in.
    • I would've picked the "Blinded by the Light" clip. You know, the one with no clip of any sort whatsoever that's just a stretch of "Lookit my AWSUM LENZ FLARES!"
  • The Amazing Atheist is a douchebag, but he reached a whole new level of douchebaggery with his mind-numblingly banal skit "The Vegetarian". It's so vapid and ignorant that Jezuz Freek 777 and Venom Fang X look insightful in comparison, and even under the MST3K Mantra, it just isn't remotely funny. It's kinda like having a buffalo take a diarrhea dump in your ear.
    • And his response for when people rightfully got angry when he called babies idiots? He defended his case by saying their brains have yet to fully develop. In fact, most of his "Idiot Saga" shows just how ignorant he can be as well.
  • The new series It Came From Beyond Midnight already has two in its first episode: Josh decribes Klaus Kinski only as a "German pervert" and Joe doesn't even know who he is (yet somehow knows about his daughter), and Josh declares Tim Burton a hack and repeatedly shouts down Joe every time he tries to defend him, really making himself look like a huge jerk with no interest in hearing anyone's opinions but his own. Kind of makes you wonder why he even got a co-host.
    • It certainly doesn't make you wonder why the show was canceled before even airing on television. One wonders how The Spoony One was involved, yet didn't decide to just do that idea himself with his brother, who have WAY better chemistry, interesting differences of opinion, and—oh yeah—aren't incredibly obnoxious. Hell, from that, you could even team up with the Cinema Snob. At least this leaves room for better 3am B-movie theatres like Off-Beat Cinema and the like.
  • This blog post by Sean Malstrom concerning this video. Malstrom's adherence to the idea that video games should only have Excuse Plots is already annoying, but what makes this particular post so irksome is that he decides to reinforce his beliefs by picking on some random YouTuber who probably doesn't even know he exists.
  • Although Confused Matthew has received a lot of flack for his opinions on films such as The Lion King and 2001 A Space Odyssey, I have never felt any sense that he was doing anything other than honestly stating his opinion. However, in a review of Minority Report he shouts obscenities at film critic Roger Ebert and calls him a liar and an idiot for liking the film. He goes as far as to mock him and claim that he will 'revel in [his] humiliation'. It seems very wrong of him to verbally abuse and demean someone purely for their honest opinion on something and it made him come across very obnoxious and unpleasant as a result.

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Aug 8th 2010 at 11:01:55 PM •••

So... what if I made a reply? Do I put the unsigned original post and then my signed addition? Or what?

Aug 9th 2010 at 8:18:04 AM •••

Examples are supposed to look like they were all written by the same purpose. Integrate your new information into the existing example or, if you're disputing the veracity of an example, just delete it instead. Repair Dont Respond.

Apr 28th 2013 at 7:38:41 AM •••

^ Under normal circumstances, yes. However, for this particular trope, we are supposed to make sure everyone knows who wrote what, and to not delete examples unless they are actually against the rules.

Jul 19th 2010 at 1:02:15 AM •••

Can we just delete this?

That's how the whole show works, not just that episode.

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Apr 28th 2013 at 7:39:45 AM •••

Agreed. This is like calling something "the worst night of your life" because the sun didn't even rise on that night.

Jul 3rd 2010 at 1:43:39 PM •••

You know, I'm REALLY beginning to think that some of the entries here are going beyond simple He Panned It, Now He Sucks! mentality, as apparently now its an outlet to say "WAAAAH HE MADE AN OPINION I DON'T AGREE WITH THEREFORE DMOS!!", in regards to that kid who complained about Yahtzee liking the Werehog bits of Sonic Unleashed on the Zero Punctuation page. We've really got to stamp out on this sort of fanboy crying and restore this page to what it is meant to be: Specific moments that were downright stupid, offensive or absolute crap.

Jun 13th 2010 at 8:59:08 PM •••

Green Goblinoid here. I want to know why my post replying to Spoony FFX DMOS was erased. The person complaining seemed to have a He Panned It, Now He Sucks! mentality and I want as little of these as possible. I guess I could've came across that way too but still.

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Jun 13th 2010 at 10:28:47 PM •••

Never mind. I realize what I did. Still, I'd like to delete that entry, simply because, well, it's kinda like He Panned It, Now He Sucks!. Seriously. Am I allowed to do that?

Jun 14th 2010 at 12:31:55 PM •••

Never mind again, I won't delete it, but still, there should just be less He Panned It, Now He Sucks! moments in this page.

Jun 15th 2010 at 3:26:23 AM •••

I'm sort of getting that vibe myself. Granted there are moments that disappointed me, but some people are just getting up in arms over someone criticising their favourite works. I won't even get started on what I think of the "Yahtzee vs Smash Bros Brawl" fiasco.

Jun 16th 2010 at 1:13:21 PM •••

Agreed. Tropers who are reading this, it shouldn't be "its not a bad movie but he bashed it anyway" or "waaaah! He bashed my favorite movie!" There needs to be something like for instance the Big Lipped Starving Children with the Nostalgia Critic, or Spoony's FF 9 review where he makes it clear and admits he did no research on it.

Jun 17th 2010 at 1:21:50 AM •••

I'd say nuke the edits that basically baw about one reviewer giving their fave show a bashing and keep in the real DMO Ses. granted people will complain and the ones that perform the actionw ill be under troper scrutiny, but if DMOS was about nothing but He Panned It, Now He Sucks! then it would be a fine sight indeed

Jun 1st 2010 at 6:04:52 PM •••

May I delete the Angry Video Game Nerd entry from this page? I can't speak for anyone else, but personally I find the reasons for the Crazy Castle review being on here incredibly weak and insufficient, especially the original entry.

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Jun 12th 2010 at 7:44:49 PM •••

No idea whether or not it warrants deleting, but most of the rationale for the original post was that "Bugs Bunny should get what he had comin'" which he did two years earlier in the Birthday Blowout review!

Jun 14th 2010 at 3:37:32 PM •••

I just hate that original post. It's just a thinly-veiled excuse to proclaim his/her hatred of Bugs Bunny. The other two posts at least give plausible reasons, even if I don't agree with them.

If I can't delete the whole entry, can I at least edit the three posts together, and take out the unnecessary hatred?

Jun 18th 2010 at 3:31:51 PM •••

I could do it, but I don't know if I'm allowed to. I would be combining two opinions and deleting a third, and I have a feeling that it's against this page's rules.

Apr 25th 2010 at 7:42:16 AM •••

Should we move all the Nostalgia Critic examples to a separate page?

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May 22nd 2010 at 1:40:14 PM •••

I think that's a definite no. Plus, most of the TGWTG entries are really weak He Panned It, Now He Sucks!.

Apr 13th 2010 at 12:17:18 AM •••

So, how come we can complain about an awful NC review, but not about an awful Cracked article? The last time I checked, thatguywiththeglasses.com was just as real as cracked.com. And they both talk about real things (well, mostly). This is like saying that you can criticize a gaming magazine because their game reviews are bad, but not because their articles on gaming history are horrible.

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Apr 14th 2010 at 1:09:40 AM •••

I wasn't sure whether or not to remove The Nostlagia Critic because he is a character being played by a guy called Doug and I wasn't sure whether that pushed him into the realms of fiction or not. The trouble was, TNC's opinions are real, so I didn't know what to do.

Well now I do. I cut every Caustic Critic entry. Your help is very much appreciated.

I suppose that means we should cut the Zero Punctuation page as well. All those in favour say "I".

Edited by triassicranger
Apr 14th 2010 at 12:40:59 PM •••

What is the trope for when you achieve the exact opposite of what you wanted? Anyway, I strongly disagree with not being allowed to add these examples, but going by your logic, that page should be cut as well.

Also, there is one other thing: You specifically said that the opinions are real. The way I see it, the Review part of Video Review Show is classified as Real Life example, but the Show part is still fiction. Therefore, we should be allowed to add examples that are part of the Show and not of the Review. Yes, I'm saying this specifically to save my Santa Christ example.

<nitpick> Also, that should be "aye", not "I". </nitpick>

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Apr 14th 2010 at 5:49:02 PM •••

Nay. Keep away the ones which are merely He Panned It, Now He Sucks!, but I can't see any valid reason to delete the shows (which, at least in the Nerd and the That Guy With The Glasses cases, are characters through and through, and Works rather than Real Life. Not sure about Zero Punctuation though.). You don't see Author Filibusters and Tracts on other pages deleted because "You Just Don't Get It".

Edited by 94.0.125.166
Apr 15th 2010 at 2:09:31 AM •••

OK, I have restored everything I deleted.

Your help is much appreciated.

What I was trying to say with the opinions are real is that, the Critic for instance can say he dislikes Superman IV. However, what the critic speaks are also Doug's opinions, hence my confusion, because if you're complaining about something Critic said, you'd be complaining about something Doug said. Well that was my line of thinking.

Edited by triassicranger
Apr 15th 2010 at 6:09:00 AM •••

That's not really true, though. Doug has said many a time that the Critic is nothing but a character (check out the commentary for the "Cartoon Allstars" review, "pathetic" seemed to be the word of the day) and that he does actually like films such as The Wizard and crazy shows like Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog.

That still doesn't mean that this page should be filled with nitpicking He Panned It, Now He Sucks!, however.

Oct 24th 2010 at 1:13:00 PM •••

Doug Walker is still the one who is writing the series. If the Critic makes a highly inappropriate and insensative joke or outright lies about a film (Last Action Hero, anyone), then, yes it is a dethroning moment.

Mar 20th 2010 at 3:57:13 PM •••

I really don't understand the "the Nerd is too cinematic nowadays". He seems to alternate between shorter, more informative and educational and the cinematic shit-n-swear fest (i.e. Crazy Castle) ones, with a little more emphasis on the short ones, at least after about 2008.

Mar 20th 2010 at 3:48:04 PM •••

The Homestar Runner example (about the Compé), to this 18-year-old Windows Vista user is completely impenetrable. Can someone elaborate?

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Mar 13th 2010 at 1:49:06 PM •••

emeriin: Now correct me if I'm wrong (and I'm not going to edit yet, don't worry) but aren't these pages actually meant for proper Dethroning Moment Of Suck(s) instead of He Panned It, Now He Sucks!?

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Mar 20th 2010 at 3:20:40 PM •••

Absolutely. We've been trying to filter out those that are plain bashing and Complaining as well.

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Jun 28th 2014 at 3:55:31 PM •••

(Sorry about this incorrect post.)

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